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	<title>Comments on: 33 or 22 Rounds in A-League Version 6?</title>
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		<title>By: con</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-3/#comment-226307</link>
		<dc:creator>con</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In no way should we shorten the season. Do not dare look at afl or nrl and decide to cut a season shorter. the longer the season the more game hardened our youth and potential national team players become. a shorter season will see us fall miles behind european, african, asian and latin youth sides in terms of development. the national curriculum specifically mentioned that our youngster lack &#039;game hardness&#039; due to the fact they play much less than their global equivalents. a shorter season will shoot the national side in the foot. we long a longer much longer season and to stop looking at other sports</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In no way should we shorten the season. Do not dare look at afl or nrl and decide to cut a season shorter. the longer the season the more game hardened our youth and potential national team players become. a shorter season will see us fall miles behind european, african, asian and latin youth sides in terms of development. the national curriculum specifically mentioned that our youngster lack &#8216;game hardness&#8217; due to the fact they play much less than their global equivalents. a shorter season will shoot the national side in the foot. we long a longer much longer season and to stop looking at other sports</p>
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		<title>By: danny</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-3/#comment-226250</link>
		<dc:creator>danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would agree with shortening the season next time round if it was any old year. but the fact it&#039;s following on from the world cup, i think the ffa will stick with the long season, start early and try to maximise the post-wc interest spike. and after next season, we&#039;re up to 12 teams, no bye, and trying to get the extra champions league spots.

also agree on the fixturing, playing a midweek game with one team from friday and the team that had the bye to avoid extended breaks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would agree with shortening the season next time round if it was any old year. but the fact it&#8217;s following on from the world cup, i think the ffa will stick with the long season, start early and try to maximise the post-wc interest spike. and after next season, we&#8217;re up to 12 teams, no bye, and trying to get the extra champions league spots.</p>
<p>also agree on the fixturing, playing a midweek game with one team from friday and the team that had the bye to avoid extended breaks.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Somerford</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-3/#comment-226175</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Somerford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agga, interesting mate, thanks for pointing out that link. 

I guess if we&#039;re talking 33-rounds, a point I didn&#039;t make in the article is the difficulty to introduce midweek matches into the A-League due to our geography. Midweek games would be very cruel on the likes of Wellington, NQF and Perth who need to travel alot. It would be a major disadvantage for them in terms of preparation time, recovery time etc..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agga, interesting mate, thanks for pointing out that link. </p>
<p>I guess if we&#8217;re talking 33-rounds, a point I didn&#8217;t make in the article is the difficulty to introduce midweek matches into the A-League due to our geography. Midweek games would be very cruel on the likes of Wellington, NQF and Perth who need to travel alot. It would be a major disadvantage for them in terms of preparation time, recovery time etc..</p>
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		<title>By: Griffo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-1/#comment-226163</link>
		<dc:creator>Griffo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Australia makes the 2011 Asian Cup, I can see some postponement of retirement just to play in that tournamnet. At the very least, announcements of retirements after 2011 Asia Cup for the 2014 World Cup rather than after South Africa. Perhaps Craig Moore might the only retiree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Australia makes the 2011 Asian Cup, I can see some postponement of retirement just to play in that tournamnet. At the very least, announcements of retirements after 2011 Asia Cup for the 2014 World Cup rather than after South Africa. Perhaps Craig Moore might the only retiree?</p>
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		<title>By: Midfielder</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-2/#comment-226154</link>
		<dc:creator>Midfielder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gazz

I don&#039;t think so ... the media companies each have so much money invested in the NRL &amp; AFL that once it starts ... boom bang thank you all the sports media starts up in lifting the ratings ... Until the baby can walk or have our own FTA media deal we must play as much as possible not head to head and have our finals without competition..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gazz</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so &#8230; the media companies each have so much money invested in the NRL &amp; AFL that once it starts &#8230; boom bang thank you all the sports media starts up in lifting the ratings &#8230; Until the baby can walk or have our own FTA media deal we must play as much as possible not head to head and have our finals without competition..</p>
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		<title>By: gazz</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-2/#comment-226152</link>
		<dc:creator>gazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Midfielder, its interesting u say &quot;we can not compete with either the AFL or NRL in the late rounds and finals&quot;

Perhaps the A-League season should kickoff in early October after the AFL and NRL have finished up. Then the A-League finals would be when the new AFL &amp; NRL seasons are just beginning. Is that viable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Midfielder, its interesting u say &#8220;we can not compete with either the AFL or NRL in the late rounds and finals&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps the A-League season should kickoff in early October after the AFL and NRL have finished up. Then the A-League finals would be when the new AFL &amp; NRL seasons are just beginning. Is that viable?</p>
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		<title>By: Midfielder</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-2/#comment-226141</link>
		<dc:creator>Midfielder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO a 33 round competition ... but the extra games to be played mid week over summer school holidays ..... we can not compete with either the AFL or NRL in the late rounds and finals ... I think 8 mid week games meaning all the new games plus two of this years rounds would be played over summer ... this also helps the introduction of the FA cup in the future...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO a 33 round competition &#8230; but the extra games to be played mid week over summer school holidays &#8230;.. we can not compete with either the AFL or NRL in the late rounds and finals &#8230; I think 8 mid week games meaning all the new games plus two of this years rounds would be played over summer &#8230; this also helps the introduction of the FA cup in the future&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>gazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agga,

Just had a look at that theafc link and I wonder if &#039;the league matches&#039; could include finals, because any team who qualifies for the ACL from the A-League would have to play in at least 3 finals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agga,</p>
<p>Just had a look at that theafc link and I wonder if &#8216;the league matches&#8217; could include finals, because any team who qualifies for the ACL from the A-League would have to play in at least 3 finals.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-2/#comment-226063</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont know where they get 10 months from since England (Mid Aug-Mid May 9 months) Italy Sep-May (9 months)...

I think a Cup competetion would help by catering to the demands of the AFC, die-hard supporters etc whilst keeping the HAL sacrescent. I would play a 22 Round + FInals HAL and then extend the season as required using the Cup Competition. With finals have 26 weeks where all players are available for the HAL. Than add another 12 weeks of pre-season Cup &amp; FA Cup style comp which can be played whilst accomodating for FIFA dates, Asian Cups and playing in less popular times etc.
Aug - Pre-Season Cup
Sep-Apr - 22 rounds + finals HAL with Cup games on International calender dates. 
Thats a 9 months comp like in England or Italy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know where they get 10 months from since England (Mid Aug-Mid May 9 months) Italy Sep-May (9 months)&#8230;</p>
<p>I think a Cup competetion would help by catering to the demands of the AFC, die-hard supporters etc whilst keeping the HAL sacrescent. I would play a 22 Round + FInals HAL and then extend the season as required using the Cup Competition. With finals have 26 weeks where all players are available for the HAL. Than add another 12 weeks of pre-season Cup &amp; FA Cup style comp which can be played whilst accomodating for FIFA dates, Asian Cups and playing in less popular times etc.<br />
Aug &#8211; Pre-Season Cup<br />
Sep-Apr &#8211; 22 rounds + finals HAL with Cup games on International calender dates.<br />
Thats a 9 months comp like in England or Italy.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-2/#comment-226053</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know crowds wern&#039;t great on Thurs night but there is a big difference between a Janaury night and an August night in Melbourne. Both the cricket and Aus Open get great mid-week crowds that they would not get in August. I think MVFC could particularly benefit from playing more home games between the first week of November and the Australian Open. This is currently the queitest period in Melbourne sports wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know crowds wern&#8217;t great on Thurs night but there is a big difference between a Janaury night and an August night in Melbourne. Both the cricket and Aus Open get great mid-week crowds that they would not get in August. I think MVFC could particularly benefit from playing more home games between the first week of November and the Australian Open. This is currently the queitest period in Melbourne sports wise.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-2/#comment-225997</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly appretiate the Socceroos playing on Wednesday night. Much less competition for my time than on a Saturday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly appretiate the Socceroos playing on Wednesday night. Much less competition for my time than on a Saturday.</p>
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		<title>By: Kman</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-2/#comment-225959</link>
		<dc:creator>Kman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should just have the FIFA Breaks like every other league in the world and have more midweek games, especially during December &amp; January (holdiays). I think the Australian market would love midweek games, and could give us an edge over other football codes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should just have the FIFA Breaks like every other league in the world and have more midweek games, especially during December &#038; January (holdiays). I think the Australian market would love midweek games, and could give us an edge over other football codes.</p>
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		<title>By: whiskeymac</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiskeymac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Duration of entire football season (including league, cup tournament and pre-season matches)
― 8 months 10 months by 2011&quot;

well that&#039;s easier to get around i guess. Pre season cups and FFA cups cld easily be run to extend the period bya few onths either end of the &quot;real season&quot;, it&#039;s just whether anyone wld notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Duration of entire football season (including league, cup tournament and pre-season matches)<br />
― 8 months 10 months by 2011&#8243;</p>
<p>well that&#8217;s easier to get around i guess. Pre season cups and FFA cups cld easily be run to extend the period bya few onths either end of the &#8220;real season&#8221;, it&#8217;s just whether anyone wld notice.</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is smarter to start with clean air (post AFL/NRL finals) as you suggest and finish at whatever month even if it overlaps at the start of the AFL/NRL. 

If a local Melb, Syd, Bris, Adel team ,etc is doing well in the HAL that should still carry excitement/momentum in the local scene even if the AFL/NRL has begun. 

Just dont expect a Melb or Sdyney market to retain crowds if those teams are not in the HAL finals.

Some smarter scheduling to avoid direct clashes would also help in the latter part of the season. 

The only downside perhaps is that in Melbourne&#039;s case, Etihad availability might cause some fixturing clashes should either of the Melb HAL teams make the finals as I&#039;d imagine the new bubble stadium wont have the capacity required for a Grand Final.  That would be avoided if the FFA are happy to play all finals incl the GF at the new bubble though or Sat night is free at Etihad.

Overall, clean air is best at the start with some pre marketing not diluted by the big football finals of the AFL and NRL.

Redb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is smarter to start with clean air (post AFL/NRL finals) as you suggest and finish at whatever month even if it overlaps at the start of the AFL/NRL. </p>
<p>If a local Melb, Syd, Bris, Adel team ,etc is doing well in the HAL that should still carry excitement/momentum in the local scene even if the AFL/NRL has begun. </p>
<p>Just dont expect a Melb or Sdyney market to retain crowds if those teams are not in the HAL finals.</p>
<p>Some smarter scheduling to avoid direct clashes would also help in the latter part of the season. </p>
<p>The only downside perhaps is that in Melbourne&#8217;s case, Etihad availability might cause some fixturing clashes should either of the Melb HAL teams make the finals as I&#8217;d imagine the new bubble stadium wont have the capacity required for a Grand Final.  That would be avoided if the FFA are happy to play all finals incl the GF at the new bubble though or Sat night is free at Etihad.</p>
<p>Overall, clean air is best at the start with some pre marketing not diluted by the big football finals of the AFL and NRL.</p>
<p>Redb</p>
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		<title>By: agga78</title>
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		<dc:creator>agga78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben have a look at the criteria for competing in Asian Champions league for 2009,2010 and then onto 2011 for your answer to the questions you pose.           
Number of teams in the top division :2009  8, 2010 10, 2011 12 teams
・ Number of league matches per team in the top division 2009 21 matches, 2010 27 matches, 2011 33 matches
・ Duration of entire football season (including league, cup
tournament and pre-season matches)
― 8 months 10 months by 2011
It&#039;s all here in the minimum criteria for participation in ACL for 2009, 2010 and 201.
FFA are obliged to meet this new criteria if they want Australian clubs to compete in the ACL beyond this season, FFA are aware of the other codes, but the real carot for FFA is to have 4 A league teams competing in the ACL in the future and if FFA were to go back to 22 rounds Australian clubs would be out of a competition which is increasing in profile around Asia and with a much larger prize pool as well $US1.5 million for this years winner and $40k for each win in the group stages Australian teams may take the pain of having to compete against AFL and NRL during their final systems but the lure of big money on the continent may ease the pain for over 1/3 of the league by 2011.
 Here is the criteria in full.
http://www.the-afc.com/uploads/afc/docs/acl2011criteria.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben have a look at the criteria for competing in Asian Champions league for 2009,2010 and then onto 2011 for your answer to the questions you pose.<br />
Number of teams in the top division :2009  8, 2010 10, 2011 12 teams<br />
・ Number of league matches per team in the top division 2009 21 matches, 2010 27 matches, 2011 33 matches<br />
・ Duration of entire football season (including league, cup<br />
tournament and pre-season matches)<br />
― 8 months 10 months by 2011<br />
It&#8217;s all here in the minimum criteria for participation in ACL for 2009, 2010 and 201.<br />
FFA are obliged to meet this new criteria if they want Australian clubs to compete in the ACL beyond this season, FFA are aware of the other codes, but the real carot for FFA is to have 4 A league teams competing in the ACL in the future and if FFA were to go back to 22 rounds Australian clubs would be out of a competition which is increasing in profile around Asia and with a much larger prize pool as well $US1.5 million for this years winner and $40k for each win in the group stages Australian teams may take the pain of having to compete against AFL and NRL during their final systems but the lure of big money on the continent may ease the pain for over 1/3 of the league by 2011.<br />
 Here is the criteria in full.<br />
<a href="http://www.the-afc.com/uploads/afc/docs/acl2011criteria.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.the-afc.com/uploads/afc/docs/acl2011criteria.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We allready play finals so it&#039;s not like the traditionalists aren&#039;t allready upset.

I don&#039;t think playing teams 3 times (what we have now) is very fair anyway because one of the teams gets 2 home games and the other 1. 

The only really fair way is home and away once each and I think 20 games is probably too low. Works for me though but perhaps they would need to bring in some sort of cup to make up extra games.

I think I read somewhere that the magic number the AFC want a competition to have is 33 games, I wonder if 33 rounds but only 30 games satisfies that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We allready play finals so it&#8217;s not like the traditionalists aren&#8217;t allready upset.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think playing teams 3 times (what we have now) is very fair anyway because one of the teams gets 2 home games and the other 1. </p>
<p>The only really fair way is home and away once each and I think 20 games is probably too low. Works for me though but perhaps they would need to bring in some sort of cup to make up extra games.</p>
<p>I think I read somewhere that the magic number the AFC want a competition to have is 33 games, I wonder if 33 rounds but only 30 games satisfies that?</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember MV would have been dissapointed with their Thursday Night crowds but then I think generally even their weekend games while the AFL was on didn&#039;t hit any heights so it&#039;s hard to judge the effect on Crowds.

I think Wednesday Night in Brisbane would be more succesful than day time games so I see potential there. 

Could solve the problem of Fox wanting all the games on different times so at least two or three daytime games but a few teams wanting night games (Bne, Adelaide, Fury all prefer night time games)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember MV would have been dissapointed with their Thursday Night crowds but then I think generally even their weekend games while the AFL was on didn&#8217;t hit any heights so it&#8217;s hard to judge the effect on Crowds.</p>
<p>I think Wednesday Night in Brisbane would be more succesful than day time games so I see potential there. </p>
<p>Could solve the problem of Fox wanting all the games on different times so at least two or three daytime games but a few teams wanting night games (Bne, Adelaide, Fury all prefer night time games)</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Somerford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Somerford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha no worries Andy!

Also, thinker your suggestion of 26/27 rounds. Are you suggesting the A-League go AFL-style and have some teams play each other 3 times and some twice? Would that work with football?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha no worries Andy!</p>
<p>Also, thinker your suggestion of 26/27 rounds. Are you suggesting the A-League go AFL-style and have some teams play each other 3 times and some twice? Would that work with football?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-2/#comment-225913</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bye problem could easily be overcome by having a Tuesday or Wednesday night fixture with one of the teams from the Friday night game playing the team that had the bye. That makes 20 or 30 rounds. I think Fox Sports generally struggle for mid-week entertainment so it would be good to have a weekly mid-week fixture</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bye problem could easily be overcome by having a Tuesday or Wednesday night fixture with one of the teams from the Friday night game playing the team that had the bye. That makes 20 or 30 rounds. I think Fox Sports generally struggle for mid-week entertainment so it would be good to have a weekly mid-week fixture</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-1/#comment-225912</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Ben, looks like I failed basic fixturing 101

33 Rounds sounds like a lot but if it&#039;s only 30 matches the players have to pay I guess like you say in the article the mid week experiment this season during the summer school holidays will be crucial. If it works then no problem, if it doesn&#039;t then they are going to have to look at each team playing each other twice and then 4 or 5 teams a third time. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Ben, looks like I failed basic fixturing 101</p>
<p>33 Rounds sounds like a lot but if it&#8217;s only 30 matches the players have to pay I guess like you say in the article the mid week experiment this season during the summer school holidays will be crucial. If it works then no problem, if it doesn&#8217;t then they are going to have to look at each team playing each other twice and then 4 or 5 teams a third time.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Somerford</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-1/#comment-225911</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Somerford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AndyRoo,

I&#039;ll just correct this, because I knew this would come up. It would be 33 rounds, because each team would play each other 3 times equalling 30 games and each team would have 3 byes. Therefore 33 rounds of football are required to be scheduled. Same thing applies if it was 22 rounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AndyRoo,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just correct this, because I knew this would come up. It would be 33 rounds, because each team would play each other 3 times equalling 30 games and each team would have 3 byes. Therefore 33 rounds of football are required to be scheduled. Same thing applies if it was 22 rounds.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-1/#comment-225898</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The maths is off

If it&#039;s 11 teams I think 30 games is more likely than 33. Everyone plays each other 3 times, same as this year.

11 teams playing each other twice is 20 rounds not 22

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The maths is off</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s 11 teams I think 30 games is more likely than 33. Everyone plays each other 3 times, same as this year.</p>
<p>11 teams playing each other twice is 20 rounds not 22</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-1/#comment-225895</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the season should start when AFL n NRL finishes and go into the early rounds of the ther codes. i think 33 rounds sounds good plus a All AUstralian cup were Premier league teams and A-leagues have a knock out competition. It would give out yonger players a chance to show what they got helping out national team</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the season should start when AFL n NRL finishes and go into the early rounds of the ther codes. i think 33 rounds sounds good plus a All AUstralian cup were Premier league teams and A-leagues have a knock out competition. It would give out yonger players a chance to show what they got helping out national team</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-1/#comment-225889</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>33 rounds!!! I think we are at risk of boring the casual viewer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>33 rounds!!! I think we are at risk of boring the casual viewer.</p>
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		<title>By: whiskeymac</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-1/#comment-225888</link>
		<dc:creator>whiskeymac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...how wld they fit in the proposed FFA cup?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;how wld they fit in the proposed FFA cup?</p>
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		<title>By: whiskeymac</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-1/#comment-225887</link>
		<dc:creator>whiskeymac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting article. dont rightly agree with some of the arguments - for example that HAL players will make up any significant part of the 2011 team when the retiree&#039;s (an article in itself) will most likely be replaced by euro players (Kisnorbo, Ruky, Vidosic, Spiranovic etc) bu the main point i concur with - that it&#039;s hard to schedule a growing season when you are bracketed in by more dominant sports - would the HAL finals get reasonable crowds when the NRL and AFL (and s14) are a few rounds in? i dont think FFA can compete with their finals but the start might be the lesser fo the two evils (and even then congested for media space, fan$ etc)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting article. dont rightly agree with some of the arguments &#8211; for example that HAL players will make up any significant part of the 2011 team when the retiree&#8217;s (an article in itself) will most likely be replaced by euro players (Kisnorbo, Ruky, Vidosic, Spiranovic etc) bu the main point i concur with &#8211; that it&#8217;s hard to schedule a growing season when you are bracketed in by more dominant sports &#8211; would the HAL finals get reasonable crowds when the NRL and AFL (and s14) are a few rounds in? i dont think FFA can compete with their finals but the start might be the lesser fo the two evils (and even then congested for media space, fan$ etc)</p>
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		<title>By: Simone`</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-1/#comment-225873</link>
		<dc:creator>Simone`</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think the best, though it most likely won&#039;t happen, would be a 33 rounds season, and no finals series... Or a top 4 at best, having over 50% of clubs able to make finals is ludicrous... Looking foward you&#039;d really want FFA to incoporate FIFA International dates into the fixture list. Hopefully it&#039;ll help in increasing the amount of quality international players coming here, and possibly even with the ACL, where our teams are a year behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think the best, though it most likely won&#8217;t happen, would be a 33 rounds season, and no finals series&#8230; Or a top 4 at best, having over 50% of clubs able to make finals is ludicrous&#8230; Looking foward you&#8217;d really want FFA to incoporate FIFA International dates into the fixture list. Hopefully it&#8217;ll help in increasing the amount of quality international players coming here, and possibly even with the ACL, where our teams are a year behind.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-1/#comment-225872</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The HAL should be on break for FIFA dates and the Asia Cup. This is not only for the players but also supporters who are following the international action. Play a 22 round season with all players available and then introduce a cup competition that may be played on FIFA dates etc. Playing midweek should not be a problem especially around the christmas new year period when many are on holidays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The HAL should be on break for FIFA dates and the Asia Cup. This is not only for the players but also supporters who are following the international action. Play a 22 round season with all players available and then introduce a cup competition that may be played on FIFA dates etc. Playing midweek should not be a problem especially around the christmas new year period when many are on holidays.</p>
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		<title>By: thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/14/33-or-22-rounds-in-a-league-version-6/comment-page-1/#comment-225819</link>
		<dc:creator>thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>26/27 rounds like this years comp, The league is structured to take in 14 teams</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>26/27 rounds like this years comp, The league is structured to take in 14 teams</p>
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