By Kersi Meher-Homji
October 18th 2009 @ 6:20am
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Dual International, Jeff Wilson in action as a rugby and cricket international - varied sources
Thanks to Roar reader Freud of Football’s suggestion a few days ago, I have researched Test cricketers who have represented their country in rugby. This post does not claim to be exhaustive, but it is interesting.
Part I looks at versatile Test and one-day international (ODI) cricketers who have represented their country in rugby at international levels. [Part II will list Test cricketers who have played football (soccer), hockey, tennis or baseball for their countries.]
Dual internationals in Test cricket and rugby:
For England: Albert ‘Monkey’ Hornby, Andrew Stoddart, MJK Smith, Reggie Spooner and George Vernon represented England in rugby. Hornby and Stoddart captained England in both cricket and rugby. Maurice Turnbull played rugby and hockey for Wales. Gregor McGregor played rugby for Scotland.
For England and Australia: Sammy Woods represented England in rugby.
For England and South Africa: Frank Mitchell represented England in rugby.
For Australia: Otto Nothling represented Australia in rugby.
For South Africa: Tony Harris, John ‘Biddy’ Anderson, Percy Twentyman-Jones, Albert Powell and Alfred Richards represented South Africa in rugby. James Sinclair played rugby for South Africa and England. Reggie Schwarz, Harold ‘Tuppy’ Owen-Smith, Reginald Hands, Sir William Milton and Clive van Ryneveld played rugby for England. Michael Elgie played rugby for Scotland.
For New Zealand: Eric Tindill, George Dickinson and ML ‘Curley’ Page represented New Zealand in rugby. Martin Donnelly represented England in rugby.
Then there were players who represented their country in cricket ODIs and in rugby. Here are three instances, according to Martin Williamson in Cricinfo:
A throwback to an early era where dual internationals were more commonplace, New Zealander Jeff Wilson started as a cricketer, playing four ODIs as a 19-year-old all-rounder of considerable promise, before turning his attention to rugby where he became an All Black legend with 44 tries in 60 appearances. On retiring he returned to playing cricket, and after a 12-year gap he played two more ODIs and a one-off Twenty20 for New Zealand against Australia in February and March 2005.
Another New Zealander Brian McKechnie was the unwilling participant in controversies in both cricket and rugby. In 1981 he was the batsman on the receiving end of Trevor Chappell’s infamous under-arm delivery at the end of the third final of the Benson & Hedges World Series between New Zealand and Australia at the MCG. Three years earlier he kicked the penalty that gave the All Blacks a hotly disputed 13-12 victory over Wales at Cardiff. The result secured New Zealand’s rugby players a “grand slam” of victories against all four countries.
Rudi van Vuuren is unique in that he represented Namibia at the 2003 cricket World Cup in South Africa and at the rugby World Cup in Australia later that year. His five matches in cricket were mixed affairs; he was hammered for a then-record 28 runs in one over by Darren Lehmann but a week earlier he had taken 5 for 43 against England. A decent fly-half, he was injured for much of Namibia’s rugby campaign, including their 142-0 defeat against the defending champions Australia.
Sources: Wisden (many editions), The Wisden Book of Test Cricket (Volumes I, II and III) compiled by Bill Frindall, Cricket’s Great All-rounders (New Holland Publishers, 2008), Martin Williamson, Cricinfo.
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Spiro Zavos said | October 18th 2009 @ 6:33am | Report comment
Eric Ti ndall, who selected me for my first representative cricket team in Wellington, at primary school, was also a representative table tennis champion and refereed Test rugby and umpired Test cricket.
Ted Dexter did not represent England at golf but was a champion club player, I believe.
It may be that Jeff Wilson is the last of the double Test players of the major unions, although there may be players who represent at rugby or rugby league and in the Olympics at some stage, I guess.
The surprising thing is that there are relatively few double Test players, in my view.
Jim McDonald said | October 18th 2009 @ 7:29pm | Report comment
Spiro mentioned Eric Tindall, who represented NZ as he said. But Spiro forgot Charlie J Oliver (Rugby captain and Cricket for NZ). Also Oliver was Spiro’s first rugby coach at school.
Jim
Phil Kerr said | November 19th 2009 @ 2:40pm | Report comment
Can anyone help me with the name of the New Zealand sportsman who represented NZ in cricket and hockey around the 1940’s era?
Dave1 said | November 26th 2009 @ 4:49pm | Report comment
Eddie McLeod
sheek said | October 18th 2009 @ 7:09am | Report comment
Tubby Owen-Smith played 5 tests for South Africa in the late 1920s before carving a career as one of England’s best ever fullbacks.
There aren’t too many Aussies to have reached the highest level in both cricket & rugby. Otto Nothling’s only cricket test is remembered by trivia buffs as Otto being the man to replace Bradman for the second test against England back in 1928-29.
Bradman had made his debut in the first test, dropped for the second, & was never relegated again! Nothling was the outstanding Waratahs/Wallabies fullback of the 20s, being super-ceded in both roles by Alec Ross.
In the early 70s, David Rathie played a couple of tests at centre for the Wallabies, while representing Queensland in the Sheffield Shield as a batsman.
Great paceman Ray Lindwall would probably have become a rugby league Kangaroo had he not decided to concentrate on cricket exclusively.
But I agree with Spiro, the number of dual test rugby/cricket players is surprisingly small.
Lindommer said | October 18th 2009 @ 8:13am | Report comment
David Rathie’s first-class rugby and cricket careers didn’t exactly co-incide, they had a lot in common with Jeff Wilson’s as he played cricket for Queensland in the early 70s before his rugby tests in 1972 and resumed cricket in the mid and late 70s. David was/is a solicitor and chanced his arm at one of the big city legal firms in Sydney in the late 70s. He turned out for Randwick and picked up a few appearances for the Waratahs including one match was against Queensland at Ballymore, before travelling to Christchurch, where he turned out for Canterbury in the Shell Trophy.
A very good all-round sportsman.
Brett McKay said | October 18th 2009 @ 9:51am | Report comment
as usual Kersi, another very interesting read. I’m glad you mention Namibia’s Rudi van Vuuren – from memory he’s also one of Namibia’s top doctors in a field that escapes me. I recall having to look him up during a discussion on The Roar that (unsurprisingly) veared a long way off the original topic!!
Freud of Football said | October 18th 2009 @ 9:08pm | Report comment
Yes, I remember seeing a short biography on van Vuuren during that 2003 world cup where they mentioned he was also in their rugby team and a doctor, one of those “all round nice bloke” kinda guys it seemed.
While I didn’t see him play any rugby, I did see the Australia – Namibia match, McGrath’s 7-15 which included something like 7-2 or 7-4 seemed slightly surreal and were it not Namibia I would have been genuinely excited but I saw van Vuuren in two other games and he looked the part, a solid enough bowler although Darren Lehmann might disagree.
Hansie said | October 18th 2009 @ 10:37am | Report comment
Wilson was a freak. His wife, NZ netball captain Adine Wilson, has not long given birth to their first child, so I expect Australia to be taunted by another sporting freak in about 20 years time. Wilson has commented that it a long time for him to lose the body of a rugby player and develop the body of a cricketer, so I doubt we will see future dual internationals given the physical demands of professional sport.
True Tah said | October 18th 2009 @ 2:20pm | Report comment
I also understand that Jeff Wilson represented NZ at athletics at an underage level and was also a pretty handy basketball player.
Knives Out said | October 18th 2009 @ 10:42am | Report comment
The Scotland test full back Hugo Southwell represented Sussex (Or Surrey?) at One Day cricket, and apparently still has aims to become a dual internationalist.
Kersi Meher-Homji said | October 18th 2009 @ 1:52pm | Report comment
Spiro,
You are quite correct about Ted Dexter and golf. He played in the English Amateur Golf Championships in 1950s and 60s.
More about versatile sportsmen in Part II which will be posted on The Roar in a day or two.
Spiro Zavos said | October 18th 2009 @ 7:44pm | Report comment
A friend has pointed out to me that I’ve forgotten Charlie Oliver, a double All Black in cricket and rugby in the 1930s who was our coach at Star of the Sea Convent, in Wellington. Charlie was a lovely man, a real gentleman, who was very good at sports. He was a dashing batsman and an incisive second five-eighths. I remember him showing us his gnarled and broken fingers and telling us, ‘Wales did that to me boys. Don’t you ever forget what they did to us.’
Fly on the Wall said | October 18th 2009 @ 8:09pm | Report comment
Brian Booth is the only Australian Test cricketer to have competed at an Olympics.
He played hockey – my mum went to teacher’s college with him.
Jonty Rhodes I’m sure was a South African under-21 hockey player.
sheek said | October 19th 2009 @ 3:19pm | Report comment
Fly on the Wall,
Was your mum also a ‘fly on the wall’ at teacher’s college???
xxoo
Freud of Football said | October 18th 2009 @ 9:16pm | Report comment
As usual Kersi, a thoroughly entertaining read.
Perhaps there are some anomalies here that might interest the numerically minded Greg Russell but it seems South Africa by far has the highest rate of dual rugby internationals. England will likely have more footballers than other countries but I can’t help feel that South Africa’s was due to the apartheid era combined with their culture.
I’m no expert having only lived there for just under six months quite a while back but the separation between classes was apparent and it still seemed to me, even though the apartheid was over that the power was held by the wealthy elite, perhaps these were also the guys who were getting picked to represent the country, something like the way the Administrative boards in many sports work, gentleman’s clubs where it’s not what you know but whom.
westy said | October 18th 2009 @ 9:42pm | Report comment
From an Australian historical perspective the code with the greatest connection to cricket and test cricketers is rugby league. Even the Kangaroos jumper is linked to Australian test sweater and Victor was one of its architects. Trumper was a very good rugby union fullback playing .
Professional test cricket supported across the class spectrum in Australia helped inspire and finance the 1908 split.
Dave1 said | October 19th 2009 @ 3:31pm | Report comment
From an Australian historical perspective the code with the greatest connection to cricket and test cricketers is Australian Rules Football.
Pippinu said | October 19th 2009 @ 4:03pm | Report comment
This article is more about international representation – so it’s fair enough that aussie rules doesn’t get a guernsey.
But for those interested in the 100 or so first class cricketers who have also played AFL/VFL/SANFL/WAFL, there’s a list in this wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_rules_football_and_cricket_players
Some of the more notable names:
Keith Miller
Laurie Nash
Simon O’Donnell
Max Walker
Geoff Marsh
Keith Slater
Graeme Wood
Tim Zoerher
Dave1 said | October 19th 2009 @ 4:35pm | Report comment
Victor Trumper helped found Aussie rules in Sydney and was the first treasurer of the NSWFL. He was also involved with the Paddington football cub which later became the East Sydney.
http://eastsafl.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=26
“…….Australian football grew steadily in Sydney, and the Sydney Football League was established after a meeting at Victor Trumper’s William Street Sports Store in 1903. Clubs were East Sydney, Sydney, Newtown, Redfern, YMCA and Balmain………….”.
“…Amongst famous players to play for Easts Bulldogs AFC include Les Darcy (The Champion boxer), Victor Trumper (The famous cricketer after whom the home ground is named), and Roy Hayes (the only Easts player ever selected for an All-Australian AFL side). Mark Maclure, a Carlton stalwart who played over 200 games with that club, began his playing career with Easts in 1971……
Pippinu said | October 19th 2009 @ 4:46pm | Report comment
Trumper Park is a fantastic little ground too.
bever fever said | October 19th 2009 @ 5:03pm | Report comment
Played some games for East Sydney.at Trumper park whilst in the Navy in Sydney, living onboard down at garden island.
Michael C said | October 20th 2009 @ 2:08pm | Report comment
Australian captain Barry Jarman also played for West Torrens in the SANFL.
Made his SA district cricket debut aged 14,
SANFL debut aged 17,
SA shield debut aged 19
at age 21 he toured NZ for Australia playing in the unofficial ‘tests’.
ok – he only captained Australia in the one test in 1968, covering for the injured Bill Lawry in the Headingly test.
Sth Auckland First XV said | January 20th 2010 @ 6:37pm | Report comment
Not sure what the connection is between the Kangaroos jumper and test sweater. I would have thought Aussie Rules Football had more of an historical connection with cricket.
Michael said | October 19th 2009 @ 7:32am | Report comment
Kersi,
Hello – Another Aussie is Alan Walker. He played test Rugby and also toured with the Australian Cricket Team – South Africa in 1949-50. In these days of test only tours it is easy to overlook the many who represented Australia but may not have played a test match. Michael Fahey
Kersi Meher-Homji said | October 19th 2009 @ 11:29am | Report comment
Thank you, Michael.
Nice to hear from you.
Alan Walker represented NSW and Nottinghamshire in cricket and toured South Africa with the Australian cricket team in 1949-50 but did not play a Test. A left-arm fast bowler he took a hat-trick for NSW v. Queensland in 1948-49 and 4 wickets off 4 balls for Notts v. Leicestershire in 1955. But for Lindwall, Miller and Johnston, he would have played many Tests.
Walker also toured Britain, France and the USA with the 1947-48 Australian Wallabies Rugby League team.
This is in my Part II which will be posted on The Roar shortly. Part I dealt only with international cricket and rugby, not rugby league.
Michael said | October 19th 2009 @ 12:01pm | Report comment
Kersi,
The Wallabies are RU not RL. He did not tour with the Kangaroos. A K Walker played 5 Rugby Union Tests from 1947- 1950, including the Wallabies tour of the UK etc 1947-48. A unique feat to play international Rugby and cricket in the same year. Michael
Kersi Meher-Homji said | October 19th 2009 @ 3:11pm | Report comment
I stand corrected, Michael. Thanks. (I must stick to cricket only!)
sheek said | October 19th 2009 @ 3:21pm | Report comment
Kersi,
Don’t worry….. just shows you’re human….. & we love you more for it!
I actually got a huge giggle reading about the 1947-48 Australian Wallabies Rugby ‘League’ team!!
Kersi Meher-Homji said | October 19th 2009 @ 3:45pm | Report comment
Yes, I goofed, Sheek. But so did noted English cricket writer Christopher Martin-Jenkins in his book “World Cricketers” (Oxford, UK, 1996) on page 135.
Lesson of the story: Cricket writers with hyphenated surnames should not dabble in rugby!
Dave1 said | October 19th 2009 @ 5:04pm | Report comment
heres the wikipdia list of cricket players who played union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cricket_and_rugby_union_players
Johnny Briggs played test cricket for England and league for Widnes
http://rugby.widnes.tv/historychannel.php?id=2#
“…Who is the only Widnes fullback to have achieved a hat-trick in an Ashes Test match?
The answer is not Tait, Burke, Davies, Lydon, Atcheson or Dutton. It is Johnny Briggs who played as the last line of defence for Widnes around 1878-1882 before concentrating on his other sporting career, that of a professional cricketer and it was in that arena that he achieved his famous bowling feat……”
Dogs Of War said | October 19th 2009 @ 6:12pm | Report comment
Johnny wouldn’t have played league, rather union if those years where when he played for Widnes.
Dave1 said | October 19th 2009 @ 6:14pm | Report comment
your right sorry…. rugby………..not league
Freud of Football said | October 19th 2009 @ 7:56pm | Report comment
Please, do not less this deteriorate into a mindless “which code is really rugby” debate, half of Australia thinks both codes are played by meatheads and leave it at that. This is about cricket, a sport that is played across the country.
Dogs Of War said | October 19th 2009 @ 8:26pm | Report comment
Get your head out of your arse. I was pointing out that at that time Widnes played Union. A few years later Rugby League started, and Widnes since then has been playing that game. Just because you don’t understand the history of the codes, doesn’t mean others can’t enjoy the discussion.
The discussion if you haven’t worked out BTW, is Cricketers who played RUGBY. In capitals so you understand the key words.
Freud of Football said | October 19th 2009 @ 9:44pm | Report comment
I have read quite a bit about the history of the two codes thanks DOW, doesn’t make me an expert on the subject and I’ll assume as you weren’t present at the time of the split you too have no first hand experience of it and you too rely on second hand information which you have read to make any judgements.
The point of Kersi’s article wasn’t about which cricketers played which code, read the title, it says “international rugby”, not league or union and as far as I’m aware, both codes are played at international level, both retain the word rugby and further, they are essentially the same game (don’t list the differences because I don’t give a rats arse), both come from the same sport and have a very similar gameplay.
I personally couldn’t care less about the split of the codes or which is better or stronger or harder or blah. Kersi was writing about cricketers who have also played rugby, this is a cricket article and not about either (in my opinion) meatheaded code. You’ve got two tabs to discuss which is better at the top of your screen, I suggest you use them rather than detract from Kersi’s fine writing in this, an area which is reserved for cricket.
Paley said | October 20th 2009 @ 1:05am | Report comment
Well said, union was happy to ban rugby league players for 100 years on the premise they were professional rugby players so all this nonsense that union is the only rugby is ridiculous – union writers seem keen to rewrite history though, for obvious reasons.
As an aside, Andrew Stoddart was one of highest paid rugby and cricket players of his era – he managed that depite being supposedly an amateur in bost sports.
Dogs Of War said | October 20th 2009 @ 8:08am | Report comment
How is it not about Rugby. The article doesn’t happen without the both being Cricket and Rugby being played. Your ramblings on Rugby being a meathead code detract from the article, and if you have nothing nice to say about a sport then don’t say anything.
I realise that Professor David Beckham is calling you, so don’t let the door hit you on your way out.
AndyRoo said | October 20th 2009 @ 3:11pm | Report comment
Dogs wasn’t indulging in code wars just correcting which of the codes Johnny Briggs played for. Hardly detracting from Kersi’s fine writing to the extent your little rant has.
If that’s not of interest to you then fine but don’t get all narky with the rest of us.
MyGeneration said | October 20th 2009 @ 3:31pm | Report comment
Sigmund, you’re the only meathead on this thread.
westy said | October 19th 2009 @ 10:30pm | Report comment
Freud of Football thanks for explaining everything to us . Your expression of opinion is valid your attempt to censure a little over the top.
captain nemo said | October 20th 2009 @ 6:33am | Report comment
didn’t one of the Hughes brothers who played for the canterbury bulldogs in the late 70’s early 80’s play sheffield shield cricket for NSW as well.
Dave1 said | October 20th 2009 @ 8:45am | Report comment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graeme_Hughes
“Graeme Christopher Hughes (born 6 December 1955) is an Australian sportsman turned broadcaster, born in Stanmore, Sydney. He is the last man to have played both rugby league and cricket for New South Wales. His father Noel Hughes played cricket for Worcestershire in the 1950s…….”
Michael said | October 20th 2009 @ 8:16am | Report comment
Gents,
Kersei and I started this off with Allan Walker. While the topic is International Rugby (ie union and League) an error of which codes he played should be corrected. There is plenty of room to discusss all codes, though under the appropriate article it should be observed. It is a little ironic given some strong anti Rugby language, that it was Westy brought Australian rules into the discssion (one that talks of cricket and Rugby). Maybe this exploration of Cricket and Aust Rules should be for a later article by Kersi or someone else. Any Aussie rules fan up for it??
A point mentioned by Westy (and while acknowling the input of Trumper in development of various codes of football in Sydney) I don’t think Trumper had a hand in the design of the kangaroo jersey (though please share some references if you have them) The current green and gold ‘V’ came into being in 1928-29. Before then RU and RL both wore variations of Maroon and Sky Blue – reflecting the two manin states NSW and Queensland. If anyone has knowledge of the reason for Union and Leagye wearing grenn and gold in 1928-29 I’d be interested to hear from you.
A little know fact is that the criekct coat of arms (different ffrom the Commonweath COA) was worn in that season 1928-29 and 1929, by boith RL and RU international sides. Does anyone know why?? After they both reverted to the Commonwealth COA and before both wore variations of Waratahs (RU) , A and Wallabies or Kangaroos.
regards Michael Fahey
Dave1 said | November 3rd 2009 @ 5:42pm | Report comment
the kangaroos jersey
http://www.rl1908.com/Kangaroos/jerseys.htm
“…………Following the formation of the Australian Rugby League Board of Control in 1924, it was resolved to use the colours of gum-leaf green and wattle gold…………”
“………The new jersey, designed in green with gold hooped bands, made its debut in the 1928 First Test in Brisbane…….”
“………The green jersey with the gold ‘V’ ……….This jersey has been in continuous use since the first Test of 1929……..The double-V style is a direct replica of the neck band on Australian Test cricketers’ vests – a gold double-V on a green backing………”
Kersi Meher-Homji said | October 20th 2009 @ 8:42am | Report comment
Thank you Michael for your valuable input.
I appreciate your additions and corrections.
Greg Russell said | October 20th 2009 @ 12:58pm | Report comment
Spiro commented right at the very beginning: “The surprising thing is that there are relatively few double Test players, in my view.”
The most obvious answer to this, as taken from another comment, is “[Jeff] Wilson has commented that it a long time for him to lose the body of a rugby player and develop the body of a cricketer.”
I think someone wondered why there is a particular paucity of dual rugby-cricket internationals in Australia. I would hazard the following guesses: (a) it is so incredibly hard to make the Australian cricket team, whereas – how to put this politely? – rugby has generally not attracted the creme de la creme of Australian sporting talent, and (b) nowhere in the world is cricket more egalitarian than in Australia (I recommend reading Peter Roebuck on this), whereas rugby in Australia is largely an elitist sport.
Illustrating both these points: one of the things that has caused angst in Sydney GPS circles for many years is why their cricket system fails to produce top-level cricketers – from Jim Burke to Phil Emery (1 test) and John Davison (Canada) was a very long drought at international level which, if one is being honest, is still ongoing. And even at state level there have been very few successes for Sydney’s GPS schools over recent decades.
Finally, it surprises me that, on the topic of dual sporting prowess, there has not yet been a single mention of the peerless Denis Compton.
Michael C said | October 20th 2009 @ 1:59pm | Report comment
Also, Rugby sides would often engage in long Cricket style tours of other Rugby countries, including playing ‘tour matches’ vs provincial sides as per the old style cricket tours.
Far more likely to progress were the folk playing a more contained ‘football’ season. Thus, the Australian Football fellows in years gone by – who were so often able to leave their choice of which code to focus on to a later stage in their footballing careers. Thus, being able to reach the ‘highest level’. Back in the day, there were many VFL players for example who were champions runners, competing and winning the Stawell Gift amongst other foot races. Those days appear gone. (see list of 9 : ‘VFL’ winners. )
What might be interesting would be to review if possible the Under 19s – how many dual junior internationals are there?
btw – is it sufficient for the purpose of this, that an Australian Footballer have made the ‘All-Australian’ team. After all, selection there is from a broader pool of talent than in the Wallabies??
Dave1 said | November 3rd 2009 @ 6:04pm | Report comment
The problem with cricket going to GPs schools is that it prevents you playing against adults at an early age.
Stan McCabe went to St josephs but he had the advantage that he had left school by the age of 16. Therefore, his talent wasn’t held back by having to play GPs sports.
Kersi Meher-Homji said | October 20th 2009 @ 1:23pm | Report comment
Erudite thinking on an erudite topic, Greg.
Denis Compton did not represent England in rugby. With Arsenal Football Club he won a league medal and Cup-winner’s medal and earned 14 wartime England soccer caps. Denis’s elder brother Leslie played cricket for Middlesex and soccer for Arsenal and England. So neither was a genuine dual international but were so between the two.
MyGeneration said | October 20th 2009 @ 3:40pm | Report comment
I know it is still a bit off topic, but what about “Tip” Foster.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip_Foster
AndyRoo said | October 20th 2009 @ 3:45pm | Report comment
Part 2 includes footballers. I guess the crowd couldn’t wait.
Kersi Meher-Homji said | October 20th 2009 @ 4:03pm | Report comment
You are correct, AndyRoo,
Part II includes not only Test cricketers who are dual internationals in football (soccer) but also in hockey, tennis, baseball and badminton. Lot of research but very rewarding. Especially with the Crowd making valuable additions.
MyGeneration, ‘Tip’ Foster is very much there.
Thanks for the interest in this topic, all you Roarers.
albatross said | October 24th 2009 @ 12:01pm | Report comment
Not the same person but from the same gene pool were the brothers Old: Chris and Alan.
In what is perhaps a unique occurrence, Chris played cricket for England in the WI at the same time Alan played stand-off half for England in a Calcutta Cup match.
Ai Rui Sheng said | November 23rd 2009 @ 2:20pm | Report comment
Alec Bedser played cricket and soccer for England.
Dave1 said | November 23rd 2009 @ 2:24pm | Report comment
Alec Bedser did not play soccer for England.