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		<title>By: tifosi</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/18/to-play-or-not-to-play-with-vim/comment-page-3/#comment-228788</link>
		<dc:creator>tifosi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will have to wait until after the world cup to see how this ends but we will be saying one of two things : 

&quot;We told You so&quot; or &quot;That Pim is  a genius&quot; !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will have to wait until after the world cup to see how this ends but we will be saying one of two things : </p>
<p>&#8220;We told You so&#8221; or &#8220;That Pim is  a genius&#8221; !!</p>
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		<title>By: constantine</title>
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		<dc:creator>constantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just regarding one of the comments above (robbie slaters article regarding the socceroos) i am beside myself that robbie slater is writing for the daily terrorist. for the fact they have not hired somebody to report on the oman game and pass on the message how unaustralian, unmanly, woosy and disgraceful the sport is (yes rebecca wilson i am looking at you) puts me in shock.  have the daily terrorist finally realized that they should hire people who understand the sport and not infuriate all its followers by putting up biased pieces by ppl with no clue. mmmmmm maybe its a token gesture that they actually dont want to do everything possible to run the sport into the ground</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just regarding one of the comments above (robbie slaters article regarding the socceroos) i am beside myself that robbie slater is writing for the daily terrorist. for the fact they have not hired somebody to report on the oman game and pass on the message how unaustralian, unmanly, woosy and disgraceful the sport is (yes rebecca wilson i am looking at you) puts me in shock.  have the daily terrorist finally realized that they should hire people who understand the sport and not infuriate all its followers by putting up biased pieces by ppl with no clue. mmmmmm maybe its a token gesture that they actually dont want to do everything possible to run the sport into the ground</p>
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		<title>By: constantine</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/18/to-play-or-not-to-play-with-vim/comment-page-3/#comment-228783</link>
		<dc:creator>constantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>winning the asian cup, i want silverware</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>winning the asian cup, i want silverware</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/18/to-play-or-not-to-play-with-vim/comment-page-3/#comment-228781</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - there&#039;s only one thing on peoples&#039; minds at the moment.

I think Jesse is exaggerating a bit when he says we should have gone further last WC - but he mentions some interesting stats - anyway, it has been particularly observable the last two games - but to follow up no.3 with no.79 in almost the identical manner is what stands out the most.

On the other hand - both Pim and Henk would say that we are now in WC mode - we are gearing up for what will most likely be a very tough group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; there&#8217;s only one thing on peoples&#8217; minds at the moment.</p>
<p>I think Jesse is exaggerating a bit when he says we should have gone further last WC &#8211; but he mentions some interesting stats &#8211; anyway, it has been particularly observable the last two games &#8211; but to follow up no.3 with no.79 in almost the identical manner is what stands out the most.</p>
<p>On the other hand &#8211; both Pim and Henk would say that we are now in WC mode &#8211; we are gearing up for what will most likely be a very tough group.</p>
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		<title>By: tifosi</title>
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		<dc:creator>tifosi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesse Fink&#039;s thoughts from theworldgame website

Pim must choose adventure over caution: 

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/blogs/halftimeorange/pim-must-choose-adventure-over-caution-247331</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesse Fink&#8217;s thoughts from theworldgame website</p>
<p>Pim must choose adventure over caution: </p>
<p><a href="http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/blogs/halftimeorange/pim-must-choose-adventure-over-caution-247331" rel="nofollow">http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/blogs/halftimeorange/pim-must-choose-adventure-over-caution-247331</a></p>
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		<title>By: danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and if development continues for lots of youngsters, 2018 could be even better than 06. a bunch of youngsters who will be thrown in the deep end following post-2010 retirements will be nearing their peak. fingers crossed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and if development continues for lots of youngsters, 2018 could be even better than 06. a bunch of youngsters who will be thrown in the deep end following post-2010 retirements will be nearing their peak. fingers crossed.</p>
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		<title>By: danny</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/18/to-play-or-not-to-play-with-vim/comment-page-2/#comment-228761</link>
		<dc:creator>danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agreed. his goal-scoring is better when he&#039;s an advanced centre mid i think, but i&#039;d say australia&#039;s OVERALL goal scoring potential would be improved with cahill up front and bresh, harry and emmo across the middle.

would be something worth testing out, perhaps in the return fixture against oman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed. his goal-scoring is better when he&#8217;s an advanced centre mid i think, but i&#8217;d say australia&#8217;s OVERALL goal scoring potential would be improved with cahill up front and bresh, harry and emmo across the middle.</p>
<p>would be something worth testing out, perhaps in the return fixture against oman.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 06:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very hard to compare

06 was very important for a lot of historical reasons (and it may be the best we do for a long time - you never know in the WC)

But winning the Asian Cup would be a massive achievement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very hard to compare</p>
<p>06 was very important for a lot of historical reasons (and it may be the best we do for a long time &#8211; you never know in the WC)</p>
<p>But winning the Asian Cup would be a massive achievement.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/18/to-play-or-not-to-play-with-vim/comment-page-3/#comment-228747</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 06:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agreed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed</p>
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		<title>By: Art Sapphire</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/18/to-play-or-not-to-play-with-vim/comment-page-3/#comment-228742</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Sapphire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 06:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will win it Andy when we host the thing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will win it Andy when we host the thing!</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/18/to-play-or-not-to-play-with-vim/comment-page-3/#comment-228736</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 06:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which would people rate higher winning the Asian Cup or the 06 Campaign. I would vote for the Asian cup without blinking but I am not sure how the general populous would react.

If winning the Asian cup wouldn&#039;t overtake the 06 Campaign you can see why it&#039;s going to be a real struggle to raise the bar.

Also winning the asian cup seems a real long shot for 2011.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which would people rate higher winning the Asian Cup or the 06 Campaign. I would vote for the Asian cup without blinking but I am not sure how the general populous would react.</p>
<p>If winning the Asian cup wouldn&#8217;t overtake the 06 Campaign you can see why it&#8217;s going to be a real struggle to raise the bar.</p>
<p>Also winning the asian cup seems a real long shot for 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Sapphire</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/18/to-play-or-not-to-play-with-vim/comment-page-3/#comment-228735</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Sapphire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 06:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By virtue of a weak group and results falling their way, the Ukraine made it all the way to the Quarter finals in 2006 and they had a worse team than Australia. So I will wait for the WC draw before I can try and predict what might happen in 2010.

For 2014 - If Vidosic, Spiranovic, Duganzic, Rukavytsa, Kantarovski keep developing we will be putting out a pretty handy team. So no need to get pessimistic yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By virtue of a weak group and results falling their way, the Ukraine made it all the way to the Quarter finals in 2006 and they had a worse team than Australia. So I will wait for the WC draw before I can try and predict what might happen in 2010.</p>
<p>For 2014 &#8211; If Vidosic, Spiranovic, Duganzic, Rukavytsa, Kantarovski keep developing we will be putting out a pretty handy team. So no need to get pessimistic yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/18/to-play-or-not-to-play-with-vim/comment-page-3/#comment-228733</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 05:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger
thanks.

Never say never - but there is plenty pointing in that direction.

We&#039;ve said it before here on the Roar, and someone was talking about it recently on TV in some show, can&#039;t remember where - that there is a massive gap between up and comers like Vidosic and Spira and about 10 Socceroos who are all on the wrong side of 30, or soon to be - they used the expression &quot;doughnut effect&quot;.

There ain&#039;t no one coming through playing in the Premiership from a youngish age - but - there are stacks of youngish players spread out across many very good leagues (incl Bundesliga, Turkish league, Greek league, etc) - so it&#039;s not necessarily all gloom and doom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger<br />
thanks.</p>
<p>Never say never &#8211; but there is plenty pointing in that direction.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve said it before here on the Roar, and someone was talking about it recently on TV in some show, can&#8217;t remember where &#8211; that there is a massive gap between up and comers like Vidosic and Spira and about 10 Socceroos who are all on the wrong side of 30, or soon to be &#8211; they used the expression &#8220;doughnut effect&#8221;.</p>
<p>There ain&#8217;t no one coming through playing in the Premiership from a youngish age &#8211; but &#8211; there are stacks of youngish players spread out across many very good leagues (incl Bundesliga, Turkish league, Greek league, etc) &#8211; so it&#8217;s not necessarily all gloom and doom.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 05:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pip - great article.

One comment, I think that the unfortunate reality is that - barring some kind of coaching breakthrough - the 2006 World Cup will be the highlight of our international success for quite some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pip &#8211; great article.</p>
<p>One comment, I think that the unfortunate reality is that &#8211; barring some kind of coaching breakthrough &#8211; the 2006 World Cup will be the highlight of our international success for quite some time.</p>
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		<title>By: FIsher Price</title>
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		<dc:creator>FIsher Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cahill playing as a striker would allow Bresciano - who is far more skilful and creative - to play as an attacking midfielder makes sense to me.

Because, after all, Cahill&#039;s contribution, beyond goals, is negligible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cahill playing as a striker would allow Bresciano &#8211; who is far more skilful and creative &#8211; to play as an attacking midfielder makes sense to me.</p>
<p>Because, after all, Cahill&#8217;s contribution, beyond goals, is negligible.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Sapphire</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/18/to-play-or-not-to-play-with-vim/comment-page-3/#comment-228358</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Sapphire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 12:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is some more info on future Socceroo Mate Dugandzic. He left the Melbourne Knights in 2008 for a spell with Dinamo Zagreb. After playing well in the reserves, he was loaned out to a second division team Lokomotiva Zagreb where he scored 6 goals in 14 appearances as the team won promotion to the 1st Division. He must of set up a number of goals as well. He turns 20 next week, the future is is looking bright for him.

The lesson here is that Australia&#039;s blessing is that we are such a diverse multicultural country and we will have footballers developed from cultured football backgrounds. As long as we have players like Mate coming through, all this talk of long ball will be rendered obsolete. 

The numbers of passes it take score a goal is a worthless stat. World Cups are not won by nations that can&#039;t control a game and resort to hoofing it up the park.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is some more info on future Socceroo Mate Dugandzic. He left the Melbourne Knights in 2008 for a spell with Dinamo Zagreb. After playing well in the reserves, he was loaned out to a second division team Lokomotiva Zagreb where he scored 6 goals in 14 appearances as the team won promotion to the 1st Division. He must of set up a number of goals as well. He turns 20 next week, the future is is looking bright for him.</p>
<p>The lesson here is that Australia&#8217;s blessing is that we are such a diverse multicultural country and we will have footballers developed from cultured football backgrounds. As long as we have players like Mate coming through, all this talk of long ball will be rendered obsolete. </p>
<p>The numbers of passes it take score a goal is a worthless stat. World Cups are not won by nations that can&#8217;t control a game and resort to hoofing it up the park.</p>
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		<title>By: dasilva</title>
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		<dc:creator>dasilva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;All this with the most un-Dutch Dutchman at the helm.&quot;

I have to say. I do find that funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All this with the most un-Dutch Dutchman at the helm.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have to say. I do find that funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a vague memory that Bruce (in Canberra) is exactly the same during the Winter months - from one side of the ground, the setting sun is absolutely blinding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a vague memory that Bruce (in Canberra) is exactly the same during the Winter months &#8211; from one side of the ground, the setting sun is absolutely blinding.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 07:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I noticed was the poor jets fans having to shield their eyes from the sun. doesn&#039;t look a good stadium for daylight games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I noticed was the poor jets fans having to shield their eyes from the sun. doesn&#8217;t look a good stadium for daylight games.</p>
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		<title>By: tifosi</title>
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		<dc:creator>tifosi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Culina seemed to do it under Hiddink, but Pim does not employ that style of play so he doesnt feel the need for one I think</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Culina seemed to do it under Hiddink, but Pim does not employ that style of play so he doesnt feel the need for one I think</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/18/to-play-or-not-to-play-with-vim/comment-page-2/#comment-228257</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a big question and debate in its own right!! 

I think over the last four or so years, Culina has been the one playing that Pirlo role (he sits deeper for the Socceroos than he does for GCU) - and he hasn&#039;t been bad - but he&#039;s not in the same class as Pirlo - that&#039;s not be offensive - Pirlo is amongst, or has been amongst, the best of the best.

To be honest, we havn&#039;t seen enough of Carle at NT level to judge.  He started his career playing closer to the front third - many have written that he is now a bit more adaptable and could probably slot in to Culina&#039;s position.

But I just don&#039;t know.

Let&#039;s not forget that Pim favours work rate - and Jase has plenty of that - so it&#039;s a hard one to judge without more evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a big question and debate in its own right!! </p>
<p>I think over the last four or so years, Culina has been the one playing that Pirlo role (he sits deeper for the Socceroos than he does for GCU) &#8211; and he hasn&#8217;t been bad &#8211; but he&#8217;s not in the same class as Pirlo &#8211; that&#8217;s not be offensive &#8211; Pirlo is amongst, or has been amongst, the best of the best.</p>
<p>To be honest, we havn&#8217;t seen enough of Carle at NT level to judge.  He started his career playing closer to the front third &#8211; many have written that he is now a bit more adaptable and could probably slot in to Culina&#8217;s position.</p>
<p>But I just don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not forget that Pim favours work rate &#8211; and Jase has plenty of that &#8211; so it&#8217;s a hard one to judge without more evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tifosi
MV hasn&#039;t had a great track record of blooding youngsters (well, certainly not as good a record as teams like the Roar, SFC and the Jets) - but we&#039;ve changed that a bit this year.

Another young kid who has had game time this year is Foschini - all have shown a bit - and that&#039;s the idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tifosi<br />
MV hasn&#8217;t had a great track record of blooding youngsters (well, certainly not as good a record as teams like the Roar, SFC and the Jets) &#8211; but we&#8217;ve changed that a bit this year.</p>
<p>Another young kid who has had game time this year is Foschini &#8211; all have shown a bit &#8211; and that&#8217;s the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: the all rounder</title>
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		<dc:creator>the all rounder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i do have Carlos! too bad i took him off captain this week for the away game. and thompson too. good times. speaking of this player aka hernandez, sneijder, pirlo etc. who do you think is australia&#039;s best player of this type? or do we even have any?
some would say nick carle, others (more correctly) would say its culina. or is it someone else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i do have Carlos! too bad i took him off captain this week for the away game. and thompson too. good times. speaking of this player aka hernandez, sneijder, pirlo etc. who do you think is australia&#8217;s best player of this type? or do we even have any?<br />
some would say nick carle, others (more correctly) would say its culina. or is it someone else?</p>
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		<title>By: tifosi</title>
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		<dc:creator>tifosi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pip, good observations.

Its good to see these kids getting games, i think its essential that they get playing time during the year. 


I watched Genoa v Inter last night where Inter won 5 nil.  Wesley Sneidjer is a key part of that Inter team now, everything seems to flow from him. Hernandez does the same for Melbourne. 

Like you mentioned before Australia lack that type of player who can get the ball off a defender and set up plays consistently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pip, good observations.</p>
<p>Its good to see these kids getting games, i think its essential that they get playing time during the year. </p>
<p>I watched Genoa v Inter last night where Inter won 5 nil.  Wesley Sneidjer is a key part of that Inter team now, everything seems to flow from him. Hernandez does the same for Melbourne. </p>
<p>Like you mentioned before Australia lack that type of player who can get the ball off a defender and set up plays consistently.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your&#039;re right of course - thankfully we do have a few promising youngsters coming through the Bundesliga (Vidosic and Spira), and Turkey might also end up being a decent comp to breed future Socceroos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your&#8217;re right of course &#8211; thankfully we do have a few promising youngsters coming through the Bundesliga (Vidosic and Spira), and Turkey might also end up being a decent comp to breed future Socceroos.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is slightly off topic, and yet everything is related.

I posted the HT score of the Jets and Victory match above, the Victory came back with the three second half goals to win 3-1 in what was a pretty good display.

Speaking of long balls, it took a 60 metre ball from Carlos from a a free deep in our own half to score our first - but the control and finish from Arch was impressive.

As some posters have already said - there is a difference between catching the defence napping with an inch perfect long ball - and just bombing ad nauseum.

Unfortuantely, we don&#039;t have Carlos in a Socceroo shirt.

If you have Carlos in your fantasy team, you&#039;d be rapt because he helped set up the second goal when he absolutely smacked it from 30 m, it&#039;s nearly knocked the goals over, and Tommy P was there for the tap in.

Just prior to that, Haliti was unlucky not to score his second with a thunderous header that also smashed against the crossbar - he was a threat most of the game.

Carlos finally got on the scoresheet himself when Arch broke in space, drew the defence towards him and found Carlos streaming forward on his own, his first touch was heavy taking him on a bit of an angle, but then managed to left foot it through Kennedy&#039;s legs with just enough on it to beat the defenders tracking back.

Big win for Melbourne to stay in contention - Jets were unlucky, they were pretty good most of the match.

Two big mentions for youngsters coming off the bench.

Dugandzic has now made about three appearances off the bench - reminds me a lot of Vidosic in the way he runs with the ball - and boy this kid can play.  It&#039;s no surprise that he is of Croation background and has come through an &quot;old soccer&quot; club.

The question does need to be asked - are we at risk of throwing the baby out with the bath water?  Think back to when Aust played Croatia in 2006, and about 10 players on the pitch, for both sides, were Australians with Croatian backgrounds, most of whom would have come through a handful of &quot;old soccer&quot; clubs.

Lastly, Elasi finally made his debut when he replaced Tommy P.  He&#039;s actually a striker but was forced to play in midfield, and in the context of the game - I thought he did all right - he certainly wasn&#039;t overawed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is slightly off topic, and yet everything is related.</p>
<p>I posted the HT score of the Jets and Victory match above, the Victory came back with the three second half goals to win 3-1 in what was a pretty good display.</p>
<p>Speaking of long balls, it took a 60 metre ball from Carlos from a a free deep in our own half to score our first &#8211; but the control and finish from Arch was impressive.</p>
<p>As some posters have already said &#8211; there is a difference between catching the defence napping with an inch perfect long ball &#8211; and just bombing ad nauseum.</p>
<p>Unfortuantely, we don&#8217;t have Carlos in a Socceroo shirt.</p>
<p>If you have Carlos in your fantasy team, you&#8217;d be rapt because he helped set up the second goal when he absolutely smacked it from 30 m, it&#8217;s nearly knocked the goals over, and Tommy P was there for the tap in.</p>
<p>Just prior to that, Haliti was unlucky not to score his second with a thunderous header that also smashed against the crossbar &#8211; he was a threat most of the game.</p>
<p>Carlos finally got on the scoresheet himself when Arch broke in space, drew the defence towards him and found Carlos streaming forward on his own, his first touch was heavy taking him on a bit of an angle, but then managed to left foot it through Kennedy&#8217;s legs with just enough on it to beat the defenders tracking back.</p>
<p>Big win for Melbourne to stay in contention &#8211; Jets were unlucky, they were pretty good most of the match.</p>
<p>Two big mentions for youngsters coming off the bench.</p>
<p>Dugandzic has now made about three appearances off the bench &#8211; reminds me a lot of Vidosic in the way he runs with the ball &#8211; and boy this kid can play.  It&#8217;s no surprise that he is of Croation background and has come through an &#8220;old soccer&#8221; club.</p>
<p>The question does need to be asked &#8211; are we at risk of throwing the baby out with the bath water?  Think back to when Aust played Croatia in 2006, and about 10 players on the pitch, for both sides, were Australians with Croatian backgrounds, most of whom would have come through a handful of &#8220;old soccer&#8221; clubs.</p>
<p>Lastly, Elasi finally made his debut when he replaced Tommy P.  He&#8217;s actually a striker but was forced to play in midfield, and in the context of the game &#8211; I thought he did all right &#8211; he certainly wasn&#8217;t overawed.</p>
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		<title>By: tifosi</title>
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		<dc:creator>tifosi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If all players are fit i do think this will be the team that should  start at the world cup. 

The talent is there. The only problem is the speed. Many players are on the way down physically. 

Schwarzer

Wilkshire         Neill              Moore           Chipperfield 

Culina           Grella

Emerton                      Cahill                     Bresciano


                                   Kewell



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If all players are fit i do think this will be the team that should  start at the world cup. </p>
<p>The talent is there. The only problem is the speed. Many players are on the way down physically. </p>
<p>Schwarzer</p>
<p>Wilkshire         Neill              Moore           Chipperfield </p>
<p>Culina           Grella</p>
<p>Emerton                      Cahill                     Bresciano</p>
<p>                                   Kewell</p>
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		<title>By: the all rounder</title>
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		<dc:creator>the all rounder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for remininding me Pip. and i didn&#039;t mean to rip the SPL too much, I was merely indicating that if we are to attain the success the fantasy leaguers think we deserve, there&#039;d have to be an Australian striker in the EPL, Serie A, Bundesliga or Primera Liga. please don&#039;t mention Richard Garcia!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for remininding me Pip. and i didn&#8217;t mean to rip the SPL too much, I was merely indicating that if we are to attain the success the fantasy leaguers think we deserve, there&#8217;d have to be an Australian striker in the EPL, Serie A, Bundesliga or Primera Liga. please don&#8217;t mention Richard Garcia!</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only playing in the SPL - when the Schwatter, Cahill, Emo and Neill retire - that might be all we have!!

JA was probably at his peak 3 to 4 years ago - remember he had an excellent confederations cup in 2005 for team that failed to get a single point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only playing in the SPL &#8211; when the Schwatter, Cahill, Emo and Neill retire &#8211; that might be all we have!!</p>
<p>JA was probably at his peak 3 to 4 years ago &#8211; remember he had an excellent confederations cup in 2005 for team that failed to get a single point.</p>
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		<title>By: the all rounder</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/18/to-play-or-not-to-play-with-vim/comment-page-2/#comment-228242</link>
		<dc:creator>the all rounder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 05:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is typically fascinating ROAR. many valid points, many very well-thought through. we need a world-class striker! Scott McDonald, as much as I love the guy, is only playing in the Scottish Premier League. Bolton Wanderers would beat Celtic.
And after watching John Aloisi since his arrival in the A-League, I don&#039;t know how he scored that beauty against Japan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is typically fascinating ROAR. many valid points, many very well-thought through. we need a world-class striker! Scott McDonald, as much as I love the guy, is only playing in the Scottish Premier League. Bolton Wanderers would beat Celtic.<br />
And after watching John Aloisi since his arrival in the A-League, I don&#8217;t know how he scored that beauty against Japan.</p>
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