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	<title>Comments on: All Blacks revolution: new players and &#8216;new&#8217; coaches</title>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/19/all-blacks-revolution-new-players-and-new-coaches/comment-page-2/#comment-229410</link>
		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;And the reason why these wingers have been dropped? Because Graham Henry has acknowledged that the high ball kicking game is here to stay and that New Zealand has to have players who are sound catchers and (this is the important point) who also have a strong running-back game.&#039;

Hang on... most wings and full backs were selected due to their running ability prior to the current SH trend for kicking. When did coaches ignore the fact that their back three might have problems under a high ball? Rokocoko is simply out of form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;And the reason why these wingers have been dropped? Because Graham Henry has acknowledged that the high ball kicking game is here to stay and that New Zealand has to have players who are sound catchers and (this is the important point) who also have a strong running-back game.&#8217;</p>
<p>Hang on&#8230; most wings and full backs were selected due to their running ability prior to the current SH trend for kicking. When did coaches ignore the fact that their back three might have problems under a high ball? Rokocoko is simply out of form.</p>
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		<title>By: swamprat</title>
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		<dc:creator>swamprat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rightly or wrongly ,rugby will continue to be more like League as commercial interests drag the 2 codes together . Temporary popularity , defined  by viewing  numbers and sponsorship ,is chimeric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rightly or wrongly ,rugby will continue to be more like League as commercial interests drag the 2 codes together . Temporary popularity , defined  by viewing  numbers and sponsorship ,is chimeric.</p>
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		<title>By: jools-usa</title>
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		<dc:creator>jools-usa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spiro has just confirmed my worst fears, the NPC breeds great players &amp;  has &#039;em in spades.
Delaney et al are so strong &amp; getting better experience, I&#039;m (again) depressed again re the Bledisloe.
Jools-USA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spiro has just confirmed my worst fears, the NPC breeds great players &amp;  has &#8216;em in spades.<br />
Delaney et al are so strong &amp; getting better experience, I&#8217;m (again) depressed again re the Bledisloe.<br />
Jools-USA</p>
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		<title>By: TommyM</title>
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		<dc:creator>TommyM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why on EARTH did the ABS have a back coaching the forwards?  How very peculiar...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why on EARTH did the ABS have a back coaching the forwards?  How very peculiar&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ohtani's jacket</title>
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		<dc:creator>ohtani's jacket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, the high ball strategy is a counter attack method. Securing possession is the first step to diffusing it. Most of the All Blacks&#039; errors against the Boks could&#039;ve been stopped a few phases earlier. 

I&#039;m not sure why anyone should be worried about the Boks. They hardly flexed their muscle at all this year. If that&#039;s the best they can do, I&#039;m not phased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, the high ball strategy is a counter attack method. Securing possession is the first step to diffusing it. Most of the All Blacks&#8217; errors against the Boks could&#8217;ve been stopped a few phases earlier. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why anyone should be worried about the Boks. They hardly flexed their muscle at all this year. If that&#8217;s the best they can do, I&#8217;m not phased.</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall Giteau&#039;s debut at Tiwckenham (at 13) and I don&#039;t think he&#039;d played Super rugby at that point. Had Lloyd Johansson played for the Reds prior to his test debut?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall Giteau&#8217;s debut at Tiwckenham (at 13) and I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;d played Super rugby at that point. Had Lloyd Johansson played for the Reds prior to his test debut?</p>
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		<title>By: ohtani's jacket</title>
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		<dc:creator>ohtani's jacket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ross is no good in the tight, and Henry is taking over as forwards coach. As you were, johnny-boy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross is no good in the tight, and Henry is taking over as forwards coach. As you were, johnny-boy.</p>
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		<title>By: katzilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>katzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree OJ, if we can get through this tour with our unbeaten records against certain teams in tact and with a fresh out look, rather then the dull droll dished out in the 3N then most Kiwis would be happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree OJ, if we can get through this tour with our unbeaten records against certain teams in tact and with a fresh out look, rather then the dull droll dished out in the 3N then most Kiwis would be happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to add to KO&#039;s observations that NZ were at least equalled at the breakdown against South Africa which slowed their own ball and killed their momentum. If I was Henry I would look for the next Richie McCaw cause there aint&#039; no-one in NZ with the same ability to combat a fit Brussow if he is still around in 2011.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to add to KO&#8217;s observations that NZ were at least equalled at the breakdown against South Africa which slowed their own ball and killed their momentum. If I was Henry I would look for the next Richie McCaw cause there aint&#8217; no-one in NZ with the same ability to combat a fit Brussow if he is still around in 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/19/all-blacks-revolution-new-players-and-new-coaches/comment-page-1/#comment-228779</link>
		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The presumption I query is which teams will be playing a kick and chase game in the 2011 WC. I would be intrigued to hear the logic behind Mr Zavos&#039; assertion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The presumption I query is which teams will be playing a kick and chase game in the 2011 WC. I would be intrigued to hear the logic behind Mr Zavos&#8217; assertion.</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/19/all-blacks-revolution-new-players-and-new-coaches/comment-page-1/#comment-228778</link>
		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Australian 1999/2000/01 defence was ground breaking, hence they only conceded two tries in the 1999 WC, and it is somewhat contradictory to suggest that because various sides had excellent defence therefore the Australian success was  built on attack. 

&#039;Or a combination of both. And I’m pretty sure that’s what Spiro was describing in his article.&#039;

I don&#039;t think so which is why there is no reference to tight forward play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Australian 1999/2000/01 defence was ground breaking, hence they only conceded two tries in the 1999 WC, and it is somewhat contradictory to suggest that because various sides had excellent defence therefore the Australian success was  built on attack. </p>
<p>&#8216;Or a combination of both. And I’m pretty sure that’s what Spiro was describing in his article.&#8217;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so which is why there is no reference to tight forward play.</p>
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		<title>By: Ande</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spiro,

A cople of points in contention...

1.  The Pumas played the bomb kick and chase strategy effectively in the 2007 WC and were defused by the Boks in the semi final.  The Bomb Kick is a good counter strategy to rush defence propagated by Jake White and then adopted the following year by other teams like wales which gave them the 6 N title.  

2.   &quot;and if a cross-kick had been caught in the last play could have won the Test.&quot; last time I heard the catcher must be behind the kicking line when the ball is launched.  The camera clearly shows in line that the AB players were waiting well ahead of the kicking line, clearly offside... in fact the legality of the preceding McCaw catch and try is highly questionable.  The last AB try attemps were desperate rather than stratregic and they were just lucky to get away with it as Graham would have put it...&quot;they got the rub of the green that time&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spiro,</p>
<p>A cople of points in contention&#8230;</p>
<p>1.  The Pumas played the bomb kick and chase strategy effectively in the 2007 WC and were defused by the Boks in the semi final.  The Bomb Kick is a good counter strategy to rush defence propagated by Jake White and then adopted the following year by other teams like wales which gave them the 6 N title.  </p>
<p>2.   &#8220;and if a cross-kick had been caught in the last play could have won the Test.&#8221; last time I heard the catcher must be behind the kicking line when the ball is launched.  The camera clearly shows in line that the AB players were waiting well ahead of the kicking line, clearly offside&#8230; in fact the legality of the preceding McCaw catch and try is highly questionable.  The last AB try attemps were desperate rather than stratregic and they were just lucky to get away with it as Graham would have put it&#8230;&#8221;they got the rub of the green that time&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: johnny-boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnny-boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typical b...... Henry - more interested in how to make himself look like a genius rather than the players.  Dropping Isaac Ross and telling him to bulk up is idiotic.  He obviously didnt take to being a Henry yes boy so the headmaster has sent him off to detention.  His old man Jock, a no nonsense Canterbury man will be mightly p......... off.
You can just smell Henry wanting to come up another &#039;genius&#039; strategy leading up to the next World Cup, to make up for the last one, the biggest coaching cock up of all time.  Wayne Smith as forwards coach. Hilarious.  He might go quite well as soon enough the All Black forwards will figure he hasnt got a clue about forwards either and will just get together and do their natural thing.  That could spell danger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical b&#8230;&#8230; Henry &#8211; more interested in how to make himself look like a genius rather than the players.  Dropping Isaac Ross and telling him to bulk up is idiotic.  He obviously didnt take to being a Henry yes boy so the headmaster has sent him off to detention.  His old man Jock, a no nonsense Canterbury man will be mightly p&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; off.<br />
You can just smell Henry wanting to come up another &#8216;genius&#8217; strategy leading up to the next World Cup, to make up for the last one, the biggest coaching cock up of all time.  Wayne Smith as forwards coach. Hilarious.  He might go quite well as soon enough the All Black forwards will figure he hasnt got a clue about forwards either and will just get together and do their natural thing.  That could spell danger.</p>
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		<title>By: ohtani's jacket</title>
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		<dc:creator>ohtani's jacket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an important tour for the All Blacks not only in terms of building depth but also playing style. We haven&#039;t had much of a playing style over the past two seasons and that&#039;s something that needs to be addressed on the upcoming tour. 

It&#039;s early days yet, but I think the coaching shake-up is a good move, and I like the fact that the players have pushed for a forward platform. The wing situation may be a ploy to diffuse the high ball situation, but it also addresses the fact that Rokocoko is and always was an 11. You really need a different type of player to complement your 11, ala Williams/Batty, Wilson/Fraser, Kirwan/Wright and Wilson/Lomu, otherwise you end up attacking the same way down both sides. 

Hopefully, we&#039;ll peak for the game against France and go undefeated on tour. We&#039;ll see how brave Henry is in terms of giving new caps significant game time. I hope he gives one or two players an entire Test against the likes of Wales, England and France. It&#039;ll also be interesting to see how big an effort the NH sides make to copy the successful French and South African tactics against NZ. If we can get through this tour with reasonable performances, I think the year will have been a minor success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an important tour for the All Blacks not only in terms of building depth but also playing style. We haven&#8217;t had much of a playing style over the past two seasons and that&#8217;s something that needs to be addressed on the upcoming tour. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s early days yet, but I think the coaching shake-up is a good move, and I like the fact that the players have pushed for a forward platform. The wing situation may be a ploy to diffuse the high ball situation, but it also addresses the fact that Rokocoko is and always was an 11. You really need a different type of player to complement your 11, ala Williams/Batty, Wilson/Fraser, Kirwan/Wright and Wilson/Lomu, otherwise you end up attacking the same way down both sides. </p>
<p>Hopefully, we&#8217;ll peak for the game against France and go undefeated on tour. We&#8217;ll see how brave Henry is in terms of giving new caps significant game time. I hope he gives one or two players an entire Test against the likes of Wales, England and France. It&#8217;ll also be interesting to see how big an effort the NH sides make to copy the successful French and South African tactics against NZ. If we can get through this tour with reasonable performances, I think the year will have been a minor success.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamesB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 06:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair comment, but you are wrong about Mils Muliaina. Admittedly not his best season, but he remains the worlds premier fullback. Remeber - form is temporary, class is permanent. An absolute certainty come 2011.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair comment, but you are wrong about Mils Muliaina. Admittedly not his best season, but he remains the worlds premier fullback. Remeber &#8211; form is temporary, class is permanent. An absolute certainty come 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: jeznez</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeznez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 05:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kind ot the reverse for what you guys are looking for but David Lyons was an interesting one, played for NSW and the Wallabies before he played club rugby for Uni, going straight on through from Hurlstone Ag and the schoolboys side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind ot the reverse for what you guys are looking for but David Lyons was an interesting one, played for NSW and the Wallabies before he played club rugby for Uni, going straight on through from Hurlstone Ag and the schoolboys side.</p>
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		<title>By: stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 04:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry - you are right about giteau. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry &#8211; you are right about giteau.</p>
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		<title>By: PastHisBest</title>
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		<dc:creator>PastHisBest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 02:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Departures overseas (ala Hugh McMenimin), developing depth, and the timing of the competitions. The S14 finished an age ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Departures overseas (ala Hugh McMenimin), developing depth, and the timing of the competitions. The S14 finished an age ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But apart from injuries - what are the circumstances where a player might debut as a Wallaby ahead of actually getting a game at super level?

If a player can slot straight into a starting position with the Wallabies, never having played a super game - what does that say exactly for the coaching staff of Australian super teams?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But apart from injuries &#8211; what are the circumstances where a player might debut as a Wallaby ahead of actually getting a game at super level?</p>
<p>If a player can slot straight into a starting position with the Wallabies, never having played a super game &#8211; what does that say exactly for the coaching staff of Australian super teams?</p>
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		<title>By: PastHisBest</title>
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		<dc:creator>PastHisBest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes sense when you haven&#039;t got any depth. Exactly the reason Deans attended club games this year, it wasn&#039;t just to have a gander at the returning wallabies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes sense when you haven&#8217;t got any depth. Exactly the reason Deans attended club games this year, it wasn&#8217;t just to have a gander at the returning wallabies.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Accept that Lee but I was just noting that the top level Kiwi players are practicing, and executing, this skill more effectively than us.  Example - James O&#039;Conner in Wellington.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Accept that Lee but I was just noting that the top level Kiwi players are practicing, and executing, this skill more effectively than us.  Example &#8211; James O&#8217;Conner in Wellington.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben Alexander had played zero games for the Brumbies - at least as a starting prop, when picked for the Wallabies at loosehead against Italy last year.  He may have come on as a replacement fro the Brums in 08, but I don&#039;t think so.
I&#039;m pretty sure Giteau hadn&#039;t played for the Brumbies in 2002 when he made a (poor) debut for the Wallabies as a replacement in 2002 at Twickenham. 
I think you&#039;ll find Genia has started more games for the wallabies (2) then he has for Queensland by  the way ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben Alexander had played zero games for the Brumbies &#8211; at least as a starting prop, when picked for the Wallabies at loosehead against Italy last year.  He may have come on as a replacement fro the Brums in 08, but I don&#8217;t think so.<br />
I&#8217;m pretty sure Giteau hadn&#8217;t played for the Brumbies in 2002 when he made a (poor) debut for the Wallabies as a replacement in 2002 at Twickenham.<br />
I think you&#8217;ll find Genia has started more games for the wallabies (2) then he has for Queensland by  the way &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest, it doesn&#039;t make much sense that you&#039;d go looking for players who haven&#039;t been blooded at the super level (in the Australian context).

The only exception would be if we had a run of injuries in some specialist positions - and needed some very last minute stop gaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, it doesn&#8217;t make much sense that you&#8217;d go looking for players who haven&#8217;t been blooded at the super level (in the Australian context).</p>
<p>The only exception would be if we had a run of injuries in some specialist positions &#8211; and needed some very last minute stop gaps.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teams have been doing this for awhile, watch the Tri Nations games. Most backs will do this when contesting the ball in the air or catching a kick - I don&#039;t think it is a new thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teams have been doing this for awhile, watch the Tri Nations games. Most backs will do this when contesting the ball in the air or catching a kick &#8211; I don&#8217;t think it is a new thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Bay35Pablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bay35Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s hoping that the NZ counter will kill the current boring style. If so, all will follow, and in a  season or 2 we could be back to more attractive rugby. If anyone can do it, and is committed to doing it, it is NZ.

The fact that blokes are getting picked from NZC shows why Australia needs an equivalent. Can you imagine a bloke getting picked for the Wallabies from club rugby? Some would argue Dave Dennis is an example, but he was in the Tahs squad, so he is a professional player. Other than the S14 players, Aussie club players are semi-pro at best, so the step up to the Wallabies will be just too huge.

Trivia question, who was the last Wallaby to be picked for Australia without playing for his province. Don&#039;t tell me it was Phil &quot;Boxhead&quot; Kearns from Randwick 2nd grade .... I don&#039;t know the answer, so would be interested to know as an aside to this issue. I&#039;m betting no one in the professional era.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s hoping that the NZ counter will kill the current boring style. If so, all will follow, and in a  season or 2 we could be back to more attractive rugby. If anyone can do it, and is committed to doing it, it is NZ.</p>
<p>The fact that blokes are getting picked from NZC shows why Australia needs an equivalent. Can you imagine a bloke getting picked for the Wallabies from club rugby? Some would argue Dave Dennis is an example, but he was in the Tahs squad, so he is a professional player. Other than the S14 players, Aussie club players are semi-pro at best, so the step up to the Wallabies will be just too huge.</p>
<p>Trivia question, who was the last Wallaby to be picked for Australia without playing for his province. Don&#8217;t tell me it was Phil &#8220;Boxhead&#8221; Kearns from Randwick 2nd grade &#8230;. I don&#8217;t know the answer, so would be interested to know as an aside to this issue. I&#8217;m betting no one in the professional era.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its been noticeable to me while watching the Kiwi&#039;s domestic comp that their kicking - and kick return - seems to be on the improve.  For high kicks landing just aoutside the 22 (where the majority of kicks go these days) the catchers seem to be learning/mastering a technique of starting from a metre or two beyond where the ball is going to land and then when they jump they are also moving forward rather than stationery - the advantages being 1) if caught cleanly the player hits the ground with forward momentum, including the ability to better run it back 2) make it harder for the Oppo to keep their eye on the ball and contest, if they collide in the air they run the real danger of being pinged for tackling in the air and 3) even if the ball is spilled its likely to be spilled forward - not ideal but at least better than going behind you.
Hopefully our lot are also practicing this, but, as is the current malaise, we have no idea how it will go in the games.  Guess we&#039;ll find out when the tour starts ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its been noticeable to me while watching the Kiwi&#8217;s domestic comp that their kicking &#8211; and kick return &#8211; seems to be on the improve.  For high kicks landing just aoutside the 22 (where the majority of kicks go these days) the catchers seem to be learning/mastering a technique of starting from a metre or two beyond where the ball is going to land and then when they jump they are also moving forward rather than stationery &#8211; the advantages being 1) if caught cleanly the player hits the ground with forward momentum, including the ability to better run it back 2) make it harder for the Oppo to keep their eye on the ball and contest, if they collide in the air they run the real danger of being pinged for tackling in the air and 3) even if the ball is spilled its likely to be spilled forward &#8211; not ideal but at least better than going behind you.<br />
Hopefully our lot are also practicing this, but, as is the current malaise, we have no idea how it will go in the games.  Guess we&#8217;ll find out when the tour starts &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PastHisBest</title>
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		<dc:creator>PastHisBest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Is it not more logical that the superb Australian defence was what made them so strong, rather than a patient attacking game?&quot;

I don&#039;t think so KO. While the defence was excellent, so was the defence of a number of international sides. It was the constant build up of pressure caused by retention of possession that was the key to this success.

&quot;There’s two ways to beat a patient phase game, either back off and rely on an organised defence, or swamp the contact zone.&quot;

Or a combination of both. And I&#039;m pretty sure that&#039;s what Spiro was describing in his article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is it not more logical that the superb Australian defence was what made them so strong, rather than a patient attacking game?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so KO. While the defence was excellent, so was the defence of a number of international sides. It was the constant build up of pressure caused by retention of possession that was the key to this success.</p>
<p>&#8220;There’s two ways to beat a patient phase game, either back off and rely on an organised defence, or swamp the contact zone.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or a combination of both. And I&#8217;m pretty sure that&#8217;s what Spiro was describing in his article.</p>
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		<title>By: LeftArmSpinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeftArmSpinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the youngsters are all good pups, particularly Guildford, Messam and Latimer.

In these and all selections are coded messages to all players.  For me, the messages are 1. play well or bye bye, 2. I am not afraid to being in more youngsters. 3. I hear and see the obvious problems with the lineout and will address them personally. 4. rugby is an evolving game, and attack and counter attack have become a partially lost arts. 5. the high ball is in vogue.  6. Possession is still the name of the game for the AB&#039;s and a competent line out is essential to this. 6.  AB&#039;s are short of big, tall timber.

Fox, resting players is a failed strategy.  It has more of a dulling effect than too much rugby for the majority of players in the majority of positions.  There is nothing like a match to hone skills.

All in all, we spectators are in for some exciting rugby if the trend is to run it back.  Counter attack is not as risky as it appears.  next time some one kicks, take a snap shot of the defensive line, &quot;as crooked as a dog&#039;s hind leg&quot; disjointed and without the time to reassemble.  so there is space for the ball runners and pressure on tacklers to make those one on one tackles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the youngsters are all good pups, particularly Guildford, Messam and Latimer.</p>
<p>In these and all selections are coded messages to all players.  For me, the messages are 1. play well or bye bye, 2. I am not afraid to being in more youngsters. 3. I hear and see the obvious problems with the lineout and will address them personally. 4. rugby is an evolving game, and attack and counter attack have become a partially lost arts. 5. the high ball is in vogue.  6. Possession is still the name of the game for the AB&#8217;s and a competent line out is essential to this. 6.  AB&#8217;s are short of big, tall timber.</p>
<p>Fox, resting players is a failed strategy.  It has more of a dulling effect than too much rugby for the majority of players in the majority of positions.  There is nothing like a match to hone skills.</p>
<p>All in all, we spectators are in for some exciting rugby if the trend is to run it back.  Counter attack is not as risky as it appears.  next time some one kicks, take a snap shot of the defensive line, &#8220;as crooked as a dog&#8217;s hind leg&#8221; disjointed and without the time to reassemble.  so there is space for the ball runners and pressure on tacklers to make those one on one tackles.</p>
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		<title>By: Hermin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hermin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bay you are right in what you say, Most kiwis where gobsmacked at the abysmal showing from the national team this year. They were passionless, skillless and totally clueless for most of their games. Many also dubbed this team to be the worst of the professional era if not one of the worst of all time.
Due to such a shocking display and 4 matches dropped changes were always going to happen if they didn&#039;t the NZ rugby public would be up in arms right now. The NZ rugby public is a knowledgable bunch as are the english football fan, not only is their knowledge of their respective codes a commonality but also the pain of under performing when it comes to world cups.

The shock inclusions of Delaney and Smith has the country buzzing immensly and has everyone talking many with a smile on their face especially those from the smaller unions because it once again shows that you do not have to be playing for the big five to make the All Blacks. 
Will these players go onto be regular starting All Blacks remains to be seen. 
Delaney while being hot to trot in the opening half of the ANZC provincial competition, BOP has falling to the wayside losing four straight and scraping past lowly Manawatu by one point on the weekend and much of that form also has to be placed on Delaney as he just didn&#039;t step up, one is entitled to accolades but also must take some of the blame. Smith has been a shining light in an otherwise disappointing Otago team. Guildford has had a stellar year and deserves his spot I&#039;m picking he&#039;ll get a start against Italy and be on the bench for one of the bigger matches.

All in all changes had to come something was not right in the camp this year it was obvious for the world to see, player defections to europe poor,  selections maybe and the biggest Injury to key personnel have all hindered the All Blacks this season. I also believe they were complacent they were so used to winning that they expected to win.
Now these guys have had a taste what it feels like to be that close to the wooden spoon it may reignite that fire, also the fact they were 3 zip losers to South Africa is certainly something that this team will need to use to motivate them on the Northern Hemisphere tour.
France should be wary of a All Black team with a deflated ego, retribution is imminent and the only way is up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bay you are right in what you say, Most kiwis where gobsmacked at the abysmal showing from the national team this year. They were passionless, skillless and totally clueless for most of their games. Many also dubbed this team to be the worst of the professional era if not one of the worst of all time.<br />
Due to such a shocking display and 4 matches dropped changes were always going to happen if they didn&#8217;t the NZ rugby public would be up in arms right now. The NZ rugby public is a knowledgable bunch as are the english football fan, not only is their knowledge of their respective codes a commonality but also the pain of under performing when it comes to world cups.</p>
<p>The shock inclusions of Delaney and Smith has the country buzzing immensly and has everyone talking many with a smile on their face especially those from the smaller unions because it once again shows that you do not have to be playing for the big five to make the All Blacks.<br />
Will these players go onto be regular starting All Blacks remains to be seen.<br />
Delaney while being hot to trot in the opening half of the ANZC provincial competition, BOP has falling to the wayside losing four straight and scraping past lowly Manawatu by one point on the weekend and much of that form also has to be placed on Delaney as he just didn&#8217;t step up, one is entitled to accolades but also must take some of the blame. Smith has been a shining light in an otherwise disappointing Otago team. Guildford has had a stellar year and deserves his spot I&#8217;m picking he&#8217;ll get a start against Italy and be on the bench for one of the bigger matches.</p>
<p>All in all changes had to come something was not right in the camp this year it was obvious for the world to see, player defections to europe poor,  selections maybe and the biggest Injury to key personnel have all hindered the All Blacks this season. I also believe they were complacent they were so used to winning that they expected to win.<br />
Now these guys have had a taste what it feels like to be that close to the wooden spoon it may reignite that fire, also the fact they were 3 zip losers to South Africa is certainly something that this team will need to use to motivate them on the Northern Hemisphere tour.<br />
France should be wary of a All Black team with a deflated ego, retribution is imminent and the only way is up.</p>
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		<title>By: fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry should try resting more players and have two rotating sides. Sounds like great perparation for a world cup to me.

Jokes (?) aside, it looks like a pretty strong squad to me and KO, the &quot;presumption&quot; as you call it, that Henry is picking players to counter the bomboozle tactic is fairly clearly argued. Is it true? It seems logical. Maybe Henry was on loo when Spiro called for comment.

There is no doubt that Macqueens gameplan on attack was to recycle possession and look for weaknesses in defences, but it is also evident that he did think about a little thing called defense as well (it&#039;s not rocket surgery!) and delegated that duty to the great Les Kiss. 

That is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry should try resting more players and have two rotating sides. Sounds like great perparation for a world cup to me.</p>
<p>Jokes (?) aside, it looks like a pretty strong squad to me and KO, the &#8220;presumption&#8221; as you call it, that Henry is picking players to counter the bomboozle tactic is fairly clearly argued. Is it true? It seems logical. Maybe Henry was on loo when Spiro called for comment.</p>
<p>There is no doubt that Macqueens gameplan on attack was to recycle possession and look for weaknesses in defences, but it is also evident that he did think about a little thing called defense as well (it&#8217;s not rocket surgery!) and delegated that duty to the great Les Kiss. </p>
<p>That is all.</p>
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