Viduka: an Australian great or underachiever?
By dasilva, 19 Oct 2009 dasilva is a Roar Guru
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Mark Viduka’s Socceroos career is essentially over. Surprisingly, there haven’t been many articles, tributes or analysis of his career as a whole.
This is probably because we haven’t heard it from Mark Viduka’s mouth himself that it is all over.
Nevertheless considering he is holidaying away in Australia without a club as the football seasons is well into motion, we can safely say that barring a miracle, we are not going to see the Big Dukes in the Green and Gold ever again.
So how do we evaluate the career of this player?
On one hand he is probably one of the greatest players we have ever produced. On the other hand, people also view him as an underachiever both at club and international level and this “will he or won’t he” retire from the Socceroos issue for the entire Pim Verbeek’s reign has damaged his reputation amongst many fans.
To me both opinions are right.
Viduka is a fantastically gifted player and an absolute joy to watch. His ball control skills are unparalleled to any other Australian player including the great Harry Kewell himself. When it comes to controlling the ball with his first touch, there aren’t many players in the world who can match that.
He is also a natural goal scorer as shown by his record. He has dominated the NSL, in his early years scoring 40 goals out of 49 games for the Melbourne Knights.
Viduka had an excellent stint with Croatia Zagreb scoring a goal in every two games for that club. His goal scoring record for Celtic was also exceptional scoring 35 goals in 48 matches before moving to Leeds United where he excelled for four seasons including his famous four goals against Liverpool and making the semi-final of the UEFA Champions League.
For the Socceroos, Viduka was the focal point of the Australian national team during Guus Hiddink reign at the 2006 World Cup and we built the team around him. He was our play maker and his ability to hold the ball was essential in us in keeping possession, controlling the game and playing attractive entertaining football.
I am of the belief that if Viduka was fit and playing at the same level as he was in 2006, then this whole style debate that has plague Pim Verbeek reign would never have occurred.
It’s quite hard to play attractive attacking football, keep possession especially at the opposition half when your forward keeps on losing possession whenever the received the ball at his feet. I believe that Viduka’s absence is the difference between the dour Socceroos now and the relatively more exciting Socceroos in 2006.
Nevertheless the lack of goals Viduka scored for the Socceroos has always been a point of contention to many detractors. Also, people have always say that Viduka should have been scoring goals and winning trophies playing for big clubs instead of saving clubs from relegation.
According to Craig Foster during his conversation with Barcelona President Joan LaPorta, Viduka was the only Australian player they were seriously considered buying, but instead Viduka moved to Leeds United.
He has rejected offers from the likes of Roma and Valencia and spurn Champions League opportunities to stay in England. Fair enough that Viduka wants to put his family above his sporting career and you can’t blame anyone for that but it’s always gives us a “what if?” thought that we had a potential World Class player who never really showed his full potential
However, I guess we shouldn’t look at Mark Viduka on what he could have been but instead on what he has achieved.
He was a classy premiership standard striker, he was the focal point of the national team and I am grateful to have seen such a talented skillful player.
No matter how people may believe he hasn’t reached his potential, he is still the most talented Australian striker we have produced. I only wish he has a fitting farewell for the national team that he deserves instead of the inglorious elimination from the Asian Cup.
Mark Viduka, it has been a pleasure and I hope you enjoy the last few years of your career and your subsequent retirement.
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dasilva said | October 19th 2009 @ 6:59am | Report comment
Wouldn’t it be funny if then tomorrow, Pim announces that the “bIg dukes” return to the socceroos making this obituary and tribute to his career redundant.
Norm said | October 19th 2009 @ 4:16pm | Report comment
Hilarious.
dasilva said | October 19th 2009 @ 7:44am | Report comment
I guess the problems that dukes has is that he doesn’t have a defining moment for the socceroos
KEwell has Croatia and Uruguay
Cahill has the brace against Japan
Schwarzer has his penalty saves against Uruguay
Dukes on the other hand? As much as he played well, he never had that moment for the socceroos. Probably his best is the backheel goal against Saudi Arabia for the Olyroos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuBFkMPqOzI
However Olyroos is not Socceroos. I also think Australia got knocked out of the group stages there anyway.
Even aloisi a far inferior striker had his moments. Such as “that” penalty and the brace against Germany
Hank said | October 19th 2009 @ 8:10am | Report comment
Quite easily one of Australia’s best ever. How many Aussies have gone over to Europe and done as well at the highest level? No matter who he played for he scored goals, and plenty… except for Australia as is well documented (although he was a prolific goal scorer for the Australian youth national teams). But the fact that he often played as a lone striker which hampered his ability to score goals for the Socceroos should not deflect his goal scoring feats at club level. Sometimes you have to look past goal scoring records and see the quality of the player. For example, one Archie Thompson is a fine player and has scored over 20 goals in the green and gold but 13 of them were against America Samoa in one match. Nobody can honestly say that Thompson is better then Viduka.
Redb said | October 19th 2009 @ 8:13am | Report comment
Big fan of Dukes, we could do with him back in the Socceroos side.
Well done on a great career – might see him running around in the A League at some point hopefully.
Redb
FIsher Price said | October 19th 2009 @ 8:41am | Report comment
Not sure that he underachieved. I just don’t think that he was as good as some made him out to be. People talk about his four goals for Leeds against Liverpool but don’t mention his very long lean runs for that club; nor that he didn’t play for a bigger/better performing club, nor his pretty average displays for Middlesbrough (where he was at times left out of the side), nor his distinct lack of pace, nor his poor physical fitness. This is without talking his dreadful international goalscoring record into consideration; a couple of years ago he cashed in with a run of strikes in meaningless matches, but prior to that he was sat on six international goals for an eternity.
Still, he is undoubtedly the best striker Australia has produced.
Pippinu said | October 19th 2009 @ 9:04am | Report comment
He’s had his detractors, but Australia has never produced a player capable of playing the sole striker role like Dukes – in fact, absolutely no one comes close to him.
Vicentin said | October 19th 2009 @ 9:18am | Report comment
All time great or underachiever? Yes & yes.
Michael C said | October 19th 2009 @ 11:19am | Report comment
In the same category as Greg Norman and Mark Webber (even after his 2nd win overnight)???
Norm said | October 19th 2009 @ 4:20pm | Report comment
Michael C as underachiever Greg Norman is in a class of his own.
Justin said | October 19th 2009 @ 9:26pm | Report comment
Well if numerous years as Number 1 i the world and 2 major trophies is underachieving I’ll take it.
Mentioning Norman and Viduka in the same sentence is an insult to one of our greatest ever sportsman, make no mistake.
dm74 said | October 21st 2009 @ 11:54am | Report comment
Name another player that has scored more than 15 goals in a top flight European league – and I am not talking Belgium. Once in a generation
Eamonn said | October 19th 2009 @ 9:53am | Report comment
Viduka’s mistakes:
He should have stayed with Celtic and teamed up with Henrik Larsson….what a strikeforce that would have been! Possibly the best in Europe. He chased even more money with Leeds, when he should have held out for a top four club. Leeds were never really entrenched at the top.
Showed his mental weakness when sent-off against Brazil in Confed Cup….very early…we lost 6-0. Struggled in Croatia and at Celtic from a mental viewpoint.
Missed various sitters against Uruguay in 91 when we needed just one goal, one Viduka goal. He could have been that hero.
His move from Leeds…to Boro… a total disaster and despite a European final he went down hill the day he left Leeds at club level.
Given his career path and stability he must have been poorly advised along the way. Kissed too many badges, too early at all clubs…and always lifted when the contract was ending.
Viduka wrap:
The best striker and one of the best three Aussie players we’ve ever produced. As technical as they come and a joy to watch when he played. Look at the Socceroos without him..does one man make a team? No but he helped!
And unlike Harry the Duke always turned up in the early days….although Harry is making up for it now:)
Will we ever see another Aussie striker like him in our lifetime? Not looking hopeful is it?
dasilva said | October 19th 2009 @ 10:02am | Report comment
Isn’t that uruguay 2001 or am I showing my relative youth
I do remember Viduka missing a point blank header in the first half.
I think he also missed a few chances in the Iran match. although Vidmar was probably the bigger culprit.
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Yeah I remember Damian Lovelock called him the master of contract negotiations.
Robbos said | October 19th 2009 @ 12:17pm | Report comment
Cannot disagree with too much there. Great player, but could’ve been greater, whereas Kewell could’ve been greater but for injuries, the Dukes, could’ve been greater but made some bad decisions & was never hungry enough to succeed.
AndyRoo said | October 19th 2009 @ 10:23am | Report comment
Was a great player to watch and I miss that. Made other players around him play better by holding the ball up and playing them into the game.
So he was great but could have been greater, shouldn’t hold that against him.
I do wonder what would have been if he had the same drive and mentality of Kewell (who despite horrific injuries is our best in my eyes).
Art Sapphire said | October 19th 2009 @ 10:54am | Report comment
Mark will always hold a special place for the people from the western suburbs of Melbourne. Everyone realised back then then that we were watching a Australian football legend in the making as he was ripping my team back in the NSL days, South Melbourne. He was only eighteen but we knew he was destined to become a great striker.
Please Mark do a Roger Milla and come back from retirement for the WC 2010.
3 months of hard training and you will be sorted
Robbos said | October 19th 2009 @ 12:14pm | Report comment
Yes please. It waould been great to see a hungry Mark Viduka. He was a great player.
midfield general said | October 19th 2009 @ 1:43pm | Report comment
Dukes always gave an impression that there’s more to his life than football, and good on him for that. I wish he hadn’t moved to Boro when he had a chance to go to a bigger club. But he seems to be a sensitive type perhaps lacking a little confidence, as ridiculous as that might sound.
Hammer said | October 19th 2009 @ 1:53pm | Report comment
The problem is Viduka wouldn’t know what hard training is – throughout his career he’s been too lazy and hardly in peak physical condition – he got away with doing the bare minimum …. as Andyroo says makes you wonder what would have been if he had the drive and steely mentality of others to really see where he could have gone
dasilva said | October 19th 2009 @ 3:56pm | Report comment
Apparently the exception to that was the World Cup
Guus hiddink apparently called him a fatty when he first met Viduka in training and thought that it was unbelievable that we are having a professional footballer packing a few pounds.
Then Viduka came back next camp losing fair amount of kilograms
This made Hiddink think that Viduka should be captain as he was determine to impress the boss.
If only Viduka had Hiddink far earlier?