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Police direct Gold Coast United fans after they stormed a closed off area of stadium in protest of a crowd cap at Skilled Park during the round 13 A-League match between the Gold Coast United and North Queensland Fury , Saturday, October 31, 2009. Gold Coast United owner Clive Palmer made the decision this week to limit the Skilled Park crowd to 5,000 people to save on stadium fees. AAP Image/Dave Hunt.
What a sad twist of fate that the two A-League matches which were always going to be overshadowed by crowd-watching happened to be back-to-back on Saturday night; underscoring a deplorable week for the league.
First we were in Canberra for a dour scoreless draw between Central Coast and Adelaide.
Residents of the nation’s capital have every right to feel aggrieved at the FFA over the manner in which they were bypassed for the 12th A-League franchise; overlooked despite the debacle of finding a suitable licensee in west Sydney.
However, a crowd of 5,437 was a slight improvement on the 5,139 who turned up earlier in the season for Central Coast-Perth, and it was encouraging, especially in response to talk of a potential boycott by locals over the franchise snub. Credit to those who turned up.
But the focus Saturday night was always going to be on Skilled Park, and it was ugly.
The sight of a bare stadium – with cameras facing away from the only side with a crowd – was a terrible one for lovers of the game.
As North Queensland gained the upper hand thanks to the magic of Robbie Fowler, attention turned to the announcement of the crowd figures. It was like a ticking time bomb.
And then it came: 2,616.
It was always going to be bad.
Fans had every right to turn their backs on the club following the message they sent in capping crowds and blocking three-quarters of the ground to them.
It was, in hindsight, surprising that amount turned up.
The club was deserving of the wooden spoon for the lowest crowd in A-League history – that honour belonging to the defunct New Zealand Knights.
But credit to those who did turn up; brandishing signs such as: “Want bigger crowds Clive? Ask us how”. The community was reaching out to the club. It should be the other way round.
And credit to the Gold Coast fans that broke ranks and headed to the stand behind the goals. What a fantastic form of protest; showing United does have a core group of supporters who are passionate about the club.
As Simon Hill correctly outlined in the telecast, Gold Coast attracted over 10,000 for the friendly against Fulham. 7,526 watched their Round 2 meeting against the Fury at Skilled Park.
The decline since then – made even more stark by their on-field performances in the opening rounds – is self-inflicted.
All the bravado and bluster of the Gold Coast’s entry was all for nothing. Talk of an undefeated season, boasting about its private jet, and general arrogance all fell on deaf ears.
In light of this recent debacle, it’s difficult to see how the club is going to be able to build a sustainable supporter base, especially with the AFL franchise on the horizon.
This was meant to be the franchise that would give the A-League a boost this season. Help spice up the competition, fuelled by Clive Palmer’s billions with a squad brimming with talent. Instead it has become a basket case with on-field performances starting to replicate the off-field decline.
Perhaps the players are feeling the strain of being part of such a directionless club.
Consider the contrast with North Queensland Fury.
The Fury had been stuck at the bottom of the A-League table until last night; impeded by numerous injuries that impacted an already thin squad, taking until round twelve to win a home-game.
However, they are steadily building a solid supporter base off the back of community engagement.
Crowds haven’t been mighty, but they are, nevertheless, impressive considering the population base in Townsville. Supporters are wearing the club’s colours with pride, no doubt as a result of its school visits, coaching clinics, charities and work with local clubs.
Want proof? See the community programs run by the Fury as opposed to the Gold Coast, who have no such community programs listed on their website.
It’s a stark and blatantly obvious point of difference between the two clubs.
Supporter bases are built through community engagement. And the Gold Coast has failed, badly, in this regard. The damage, sadly, may be too severe to repair.
Gold Coast’s approach seems to be an exaggerated example of the line taken by the FFA marketers regarding the A-League’s engagement with the public.
The “build it and they will come” mantra doesn’t work, not for domestic football in this country. Gold Coast has proven that it takes more than stars and results to build a franchise.
Other new franchises need to learn from these differing approaches regarding engaging with their communities. And the FFA needs to act on this disaster before the league hits rock bottom as a result of Gold Coast’s impertinence.
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November 1st 2009 @ 9:57am
thinker said | November 1st 2009 @ 9:57am | Report comment
Firstly can we just merge them with roar and call them South Queensland FC and put under FFA control
Secondly get the club to take out a loan to buy Perry Park.
Thirdly can we convince the club, FFA, Football Queensland, Football Brisbane and the governments to upgrade and update Perry Park to 20k seated
November 1st 2009 @ 11:29am
albatross said | November 1st 2009 @ 11:29am | Report comment
Sez it all really
November 1st 2009 @ 11:50am
megatron said | November 1st 2009 @ 11:50am | Report comment
Gold stuff.
November 1st 2009 @ 1:13pm
Pippinu said | November 1st 2009 @ 1:13pm | Report comment
I wasn’t going to enter this debate at all, and of course that particular clip has been used in a number of ways – but yes – I admit – it was quite funny!!
November 1st 2009 @ 12:09pm
cosmos forever said | November 1st 2009 @ 12:09pm | Report comment
I’m just enjoying laughing at the FFA more and more every week.
The new glamour club gets half the number of people than the city supposedly not good enough to have a team gets to a fixture with two out-of-town franchises.
Missed a golden opportunity FFA – and with a resurgent Brumbies squad and the Raiders growing strength all the time after a 10 year lull it looks like a hard slog for football now.
BTW – the chances of the government funding for the Canberra A-League franchise holding out until the next chance for us to get in are extremely slim, there is an election before then and that $5mil will come in handy for pork barreling people other than football fans.
Oh, and Clive Palmer – my family on the Gold Coast really LOVE having to choose which family members they can send each week – crazy…
November 1st 2009 @ 8:26pm
constantine said | November 1st 2009 @ 8:26pm | Report comment
im not sure what sports are in ACT who are the brumbies and the raiders???
November 2nd 2009 @ 6:57am
Chris said | November 2nd 2009 @ 6:57am | Report comment
Constantine: The Brumbies are a rugby club from Canberra with higher attendances than Sydney FC, Newcastle Jets, Perth Glory, Brisbane Roar, Gold Coast United, North Queensland Fury, Adelaide United, Central Coast Mariners and Wellington Phoenix.
November 1st 2009 @ 8:29pm
Pippinu said | November 1st 2009 @ 8:29pm | Report comment
Brumbies – Super 14s – quote popular – average around 17,000 in attendance.
Raiders – NRL – was once probably bigger than they are today, but not too far behind the Brumbies in average attendance.
I’ve seen NSL teams come and go in Canberra – I can’t imagine an A-League team in Canberra woudl consistently get above 10,000 in attendances (but I coudl be wrong)
November 1st 2009 @ 9:17pm
San Jorge said | November 1st 2009 @ 9:17pm | Report comment
i think constantine is just being deliberately obtuse Pip, you know “football is the greatest sport in the world ill pretend i dont know that anything exists outside of it”
November 1st 2009 @ 10:47pm
David V. said | November 1st 2009 @ 10:47pm | Report comment
The Raiders lost the most of any club out of the Super League war in terms of both support and on-field prowess- they’ve never been forgiven in some quarters and never recaptured their old success.
The Canberra Cosmos were abysmal in the NSL, but the poor running of the club was no different from any other then.
November 2nd 2009 @ 6:54am
Chris said | November 2nd 2009 @ 6:54am | Report comment
Yeah the Raiders were pretty unlucky in that the Brumbies came to town just as the Super league war started. In 1997 (the year of the split) the Brumbies made the S12 final.
November 2nd 2009 @ 10:05am
AndyRoo said | November 2nd 2009 @ 10:05am | Report comment
I think all the regional teams will forever be chasing the 10k mark. And I consider Canberra regional. If they averaged 10k I would be shocked.
People are slapping Perth and Adelaide on the back for getting to that mark.
More worryingly in the short term Bne got 7.5k and SFC 10K.
If the HAL is ever to be strong domestic comp in asia those figurse have to be at least double, but that doesn’t have to happen overnight.
November 2nd 2009 @ 10:17am
True Tah said | November 2nd 2009 @ 10:17am | Report comment
AndyRoo
I think getting 5K for games against two out of town teams is actually pretty good for Canberra, especially considering the way they were treated.
November 2nd 2009 @ 10:33am
AndyRoo said | November 2nd 2009 @ 10:33am | Report comment
Yep, that is a big turnout considering how they have been treated…..and lets be honest it would be hard to come up with a less glamerous matchup. Perhaps CCM vs Phoenix, it would be a tight run thing.
I am not against having Canberra in the comp, I like the regional teams. I think when they announced Rovers they should have given Canberra a license but say for the 2014/2015 season.
The teams in the big capitals (SFC and Roar) have to do better attendance wise though. I really expected the Roar to get 10k on Friday night.
They have now fixed their ticket prices, it was a night game and there was a bit of promotion. THe only missing ingredient is for Ange to get a win now, but I don’t think they will hit 10k for the MV game on the 21st Nov either. They really need a GCU derby or Fowlers Fury to come to town to get some momentum back.
At least it was easy to get a car park at the busway.
November 1st 2009 @ 1:23pm
KB said | November 1st 2009 @ 1:23pm | Report comment
Reporting from Fortress Miron; I attended the game last night in what an excellent football match. Last night, Robby Fowler’s goal was worth the admission alone … not to mention the Beach Boys protest and the Mexican Wave that went from one end of the stand to the other. Looking more like a bombora then a wave that the folks who did go caught… All in all it was a beautiful night and funny enough, a good humoured crowd even when the “Beach Boys” stormed the end goal. For those who were there were sympathetic with a rapturous applause when they stormed their end goal to push their point to the max… Good on ‘em — it was all good fun with the security helpless in trying to prevent them doing so…
I hope Anna Bligh was watching the events (wherever she spent the night) that the Gold Coast Football community blame her more than we blame Clive Palmer for this ridiculous situation — well at any rate I do, as she has committed her government in building a “White Elephant” at Carrara to the tune of $160m of tax payers money for a few Marn Grooky games a year; now realising the grave error in that ridiculous decision; instead of extending the Skilled Stadium car parking immediately adjacent to the Stadium, which at present can only accommodate a small number of cars and the nearest other car park is 5klms away with no buses now to ferry the patrons…
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November 1st 2009 @ 1:40pm
bever fever said | November 1st 2009 @ 1:40pm | Report comment
When your team folds KB their is another team starting on the coast, a grooky team in a new stadium that allows who ever wants to come, the QLD government should be applauded for its foresight and wisdom.
The gold coast can now bid for a commonwealth games and of course a AFL team will provide many jobs and tourism for the area, not to mention a spike in kids playing sports.
Ah well when one door closes another one opens.
November 1st 2009 @ 3:03pm
Robbo said | November 1st 2009 @ 3:03pm | Report comment
Gold Coast, Commonwealth Games? You are joking aren’t you?
November 1st 2009 @ 6:53pm
Pre-Season Cup said | November 1st 2009 @ 6:53pm | Report comment
Hardly. Why not? Just about every other city in Australia has hosted the Comm. Games (Except for Adelaide).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Commonwealth_Games
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/22/2343581.htm?site=news
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/10/10/2710470.htm
Do you really think it should go back to Auckland so soon? Last there in 1990, or who do you think is a better bet – Gold Coast or Abuja, Nigeria?
November 1st 2009 @ 6:46pm
True Tah said | November 1st 2009 @ 6:46pm | Report comment
KB did you previously have a job with the Iraqi ministry of information?
November 2nd 2009 @ 9:52am
KB said | November 2nd 2009 @ 9:52am | Report comment
Why were you at the match… Or are you posting from Japan..? Or are you spending more of your time at Randwick in these dark days… ?
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November 1st 2009 @ 1:25pm
Crazy Dave said | November 1st 2009 @ 1:25pm | Report comment
I think the FFA should impose some sort of a penalty on Clive Palmer for bringing the game into disrepute. If he continues to try and get less than 5,000 to his games, then the penalty grows with every home game….
November 1st 2009 @ 3:51pm
danny said | November 1st 2009 @ 3:51pm | Report comment
a penalty of $100k every time he caps the crowd? i like it.
November 1st 2009 @ 2:11pm
Chris said | November 1st 2009 @ 2:11pm | Report comment
I agree on Gold Coast United administator’s bringing down the A-League. You can read my thoughts on this at:
http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/gold-coast-united-how-to-lose-fans-and-alienate-people/
November 1st 2009 @ 3:39pm
Sammy22 said | November 1st 2009 @ 3:39pm | Report comment
Well said KB and good post
My son was one of the “storm the Beach’ crew last night. They went and stood where there season ticket seats are. There are a good bunch of devoted fans on the coast who dont care for the games being played by Clive and Anna. They are becoming more and more disenchanted and finding it harder to keep the optimism. I have heard the fan group trying to find funding to send people to the schools and clubs to build support, great idea and commitment coming from them but hey that is the club responsibility.
After being involved with reviewing pricing for Robina stadium, it is expensive. Not many families can pay $100+ for 2 adults and 2 kids for a football game in the cheap seats. Its more cost effective to get on the train and go to roar games
Yes Clive may be seen as the instigator down south because of his normal comments but Anna is in the mix very deep and not doing a thing to help the locals over her position with Clive.
Local people and football will get behind the GCU when the playground scrap is over, the sooner the better
Here is hoping that last nights protest and assocoted noise helps to sort this out soon
November 2nd 2009 @ 9:18am
KB said | November 2nd 2009 @ 9:18am | Report comment
Sammy22,
I hope your son and “the Beach boys” keep the faith and yes indeed you can blame that witch Anna Bligh for the stuff up… I am not so politically minded or hold the same political persuasions as Clive, however, I can see his point, with such a massive personal investment from him on our behalf (some $6m) to put a football club on the Coast for us, the Football community to enjoy with no help from Anna; only then to be railroaded by her who has done absolutely nothing for the Football community, other than to try and make life difficult for us the Football folk, to operate on an even keel… And yes the prices are much too high for young families of the kind of my son’s generation…
Many people from the south don’t realise she Anna had stopped the ferrying of patrons to the stadium from the only car park made available to the folk from the south of the Gold Coast, 5klms away from Mudgerabah to Robina, where we usually start our journey to finish up at our destination at Robina Skilled Stadium…
On that particular night we drove as usual to our allocated car park at Mudgerabah only to find that the buses had been cancelled until further notice, so my son and I took a punt and drove to the stadium not knowing what to expect, where there is only restricted parking with an inadequate small car park that we were lucky enough to just get into with many missing out…
The meanness of this woman and we can’t blame Clive for trying to keep the club a float… But for her to add to the pain of the Football community in cancelling the buses is unacceptable and she will find that out in the next coming election as a result of it…
This club, the GCU FC, use an existing stadium, built mainly for the NRL Titans, have helped out with the tenancy, only to be treated like second class citizens — it’s an absolute disgrace and I shall be letting her know at the next election…
Cheers
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November 2nd 2009 @ 9:45am
The Link said | November 2nd 2009 @ 9:45am | Report comment
Are GCU getting charged more than the Titians to hire the ground?
November 2nd 2009 @ 10:33am
KB said | November 2nd 2009 @ 10:33am | Report comment
Yep, if GCU reach or just go over the 5001 patrons they have to pay an enxtra $100k and of course you know that Marn Grooky have been gifted a $160m venue by Anna Bligh with no track record on the GC17 club… for as few as 6 game home appearances…
No problem with the Titans, I go to their matches and there’s a beautiful marriage there with the GCU and Titans sharing the ground to reduce costs… Winter and Summer Football — good harmony..
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KB
November 2nd 2009 @ 10:40am
Redb said | November 2nd 2009 @ 10:40am | Report comment
Nice try. This has nothing to do with the AFL. (the funds for Carrera come from Fed, State Govt and AFL)
Like you said GCU and the Titans share the ground in winter and summer – the AFL is not involved at Skilled.
2,616 fans to Clive’s funfest – what a joke he is.
I actually do feel for the fans here.
Redb
November 2nd 2009 @ 10:51am
KB said | November 2nd 2009 @ 10:51am | Report comment
Maybe you would like to carve off $60m on Carrara and give it to the Skilled Stadium Car park development — no problem then — no buses required to transport the patrons from out of the way car parks to the stadium, that would bring down the price of tickets for the Titans and GCU matches…
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KB
November 2nd 2009 @ 11:12am
KB said | November 2nd 2009 @ 11:12am | Report comment
What have Marn Grooky put into Carrara in dollar terms ? — it’s a gift from the unwilling taxpayers to fund a second rate Grooky club destine to fail with ex Bronco players…
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KB
November 2nd 2009 @ 7:44pm
Michael C said | November 2nd 2009 @ 7:44pm | Report comment
The latest Gold Coast ‘family entertainment’ comedy offering…..”Auckland on the Gold Coast”,….
…., I’ll take “Hollywood on the Gold Coast” ahead of it…..but, then, stand by for “Jolimont on the Gold Coast” coming soon.
November 2nd 2009 @ 10:52am
Pippinu said | November 2nd 2009 @ 10:52am | Report comment
The Qld Govt will own Carrara, and will get a facility worth at least $130 million for a $60 million contribution spread over three years – it’s a very good deal for the Qld Govt.
The Qld Govt gets a tenant during the Winter months who has offered to pay for the maintenace and upkeep of the stadium in full, while allowing the stadium to be used for cricket, soccer and athleteics in the off-season – it’s an excellent deal for Qld taxpayers.
November 2nd 2009 @ 10:14am
Redb said | November 2nd 2009 @ 10:14am | Report comment
Wow your taking Clive Palmer’s side – the rest of the country including the FFA are certainly not.
Redb
November 2nd 2009 @ 10:18am
AndyRoo said | November 2nd 2009 @ 10:18am | Report comment
Well I understand his position about the paying so much for the 5001′st fan…but it’s how they went about it that to me indicates they have no clue about what a Football team is or dealing with the public.
It;s not the actual deed so much but the way he went around it.
Put it this way if Don H of Fury said he had to do the same to get his club through a difficult period and did so with appologies I would side with him. Be dissapointed but support him……wheras here I just think [insert word] clive
November 2nd 2009 @ 10:37am
The Link said | November 2nd 2009 @ 10:37am | Report comment
So you’re saying that the Titans aren’t paying the extra 100k for > 5k crowds?
November 2nd 2009 @ 10:41am
AndyRoo said | November 2nd 2009 @ 10:41am | Report comment
I am not sure what the Titan’s deal is, I assume it is the same.
How I understand Plamers deal is if they go over 5k they had better get 10k to make up for it.
Titans would never dip under 10k I assume but their deal also sounds bad as it keeps their tickets higher than they want them to be otherwise they would be close to selling out each game.
November 2nd 2009 @ 10:43am
Redb said | November 2nd 2009 @ 10:43am | Report comment
I’d like to know at what point GCU break even with crowds? If they charge so much surely a $3 tax is covered.
Palmer should have gone the other way and promoted the crap out of it, build the support. Surely he was aware of the charge from the outset. Mining company deal with local taxes, treaties, licences all the time.
My read is that Palmer’s arrogance about GCU’s success and private jets got in the way of a decent business plan.
Redb
November 2nd 2009 @ 10:48am
AndyRoo said | November 2nd 2009 @ 10:48am | Report comment
I reckon he would be doing ok now. Edit “Although is making zero money from Home games really ok…what was I thinking”
Stadium rental 40k and I belive he backflipped on the public transport tthing so is paying $3.X tax per person.
When you look at his ticket prices I would guess you could assume about $15 a head (kids plus some freebies) so I think at a capped crowd he would break evena round 3.3k. Un capped I think he has to hit 10k fans (according to TWG) but that is at his current prices (which are steep).
Those are my estimates using very bad science and dont consider a lot of things so could be waaaay off.
November 2nd 2009 @ 10:56am
Pippinu said | November 2nd 2009 @ 10:56am | Report comment
I understood that 10,000 was break even – and the problem is that from day one, it became obvious that they weren’t going to get 10,000.
Regular crowds of 2,600 will ensure an average gate accross the season of some $65,000.
With about 13 home games – that should almost be enough to cover Culina’s annual salary – so it’s not all bad.
November 2nd 2009 @ 11:00am
KB said | November 2nd 2009 @ 11:00am | Report comment
Did you know that Clive sponsors the Fury FC as well as owning the GCU club — look at the Fury shirt sponsor logo, it’s one of his companies (btw a better looking logo)
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November 2nd 2009 @ 4:37pm
Redb said | November 2nd 2009 @ 4:37pm | Report comment
So Clive Palmer with a team on GCU that he owns and in NQ Fury a team that he sponsors capped the crowd?
I have to ask, did Clive trip over a gold nugget one day by accident, win tattslotto or simply inherent an oil rich country.
November 2nd 2009 @ 5:32pm
KB said | November 2nd 2009 @ 5:32pm | Report comment
Oh and another thing, he and Tony Sage owner of Perth Glory have created a separate competition within the A-League comp, “the Iron Ore Cup” and they actually had minted a special trophy that was on display in their first round encounter in Perth.
Clive and Tony standing proud for a photo shoot and between them was the trophy “the Iron Ore Cup” now how can anyone doubt his commitment to Football with that sort of input…
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November 1st 2009 @ 6:48pm
True Tah said | November 1st 2009 @ 6:48pm | Report comment
I guess Sydney club rugby’s crowds might not appear so bad now, if the most glamorous club owned by a big billionaire in a comp of the most popular sport in Australia can only get 2,616!
November 1st 2009 @ 11:11pm
Alex said | November 1st 2009 @ 11:11pm | Report comment
Many of the schoolboy matches in Sydney are bigger than that.
November 1st 2009 @ 7:42pm
Ian Whitchurch said | November 1st 2009 @ 7:42pm | Report comment
Clive Palmer’s antics are proof why a franchise system with private owners can work really, really badly (cf Davis, Al)
I’m with the people that think the FFA should sack Clive Palmer as owner for bringing the code into disrepute.
November 1st 2009 @ 8:29pm
constantine said | November 1st 2009 @ 8:29pm | Report comment
mate agree 100%. the entire franchise business model just does not work for me. they should have the structure of an association and let members run it. if the people who follow it are not involved in the decision process then this will happen when the board makes a bad decision w/o their consultation
November 2nd 2009 @ 1:18pm
GeneralAshnak said | November 2nd 2009 @ 1:18pm | Report comment
I guess it could work, you would need each member to fork out about $1,000 plus their membership package to provide the basics for the club. If you had around 10,000 members it would work out pretty well – as long as the board running the club knew what they were doing.
November 2nd 2009 @ 5:53am
NUFCMVFC said | November 2nd 2009 @ 5:53am | Report comment
Is an unfortunate predicament, what a stuff up
As far as the undertone of it is concerned, A stadium, especially one which is somewhat remote without a carpark is pretty daft, even the MCG, centrally located, with plenty of accessability via public transport (Trams and Train) has a considerably sized carpark which doubles as a normal park on non matchdays. Even Etihad stadium managed to build something underneath,but thye are very fortunate in being located right next to a city loop line as well as the station that handles the country V Line traffic. The new Swan Street won’t, but it is across the road from the MCG, with people able to use the carpark there (I have used it previously).
One issue was the ticket prices in the first place, When we were there for GCU vs MVFC, we couldn’t believe the prices, $33 or so for adult and and for me about $26 concession. Contrast that to MVFC who charge in the region of $15 Concession or even $10, in the first season at OP, I recall in the first few games they deliberately dropped prices to encourage people to come, they understood that in the early days it is about getting as many people through the door as possible, and keeping them there so it stays as a habit. Not sure about “community engagement” personally, but having an open terrace, plus much more freedom of movement which allowed to meet new people and bring friends along was good. Stadium was a bit old, so TD’s moderness helped with some people (wing types) I believe after we moved there. But Gold Coasts crowds were prohibitive from the start, so a below par crowd of 5,600 on average in that stadium with excellent acoustics, and now the issue has been confounded by this accounting inspired decision
To a degree I can see the sense business wise of the decision, even if he wanted to cap it at 10k temporarily using one end and the East Stand visible on TV, but deal doesen’t seem to allow for that. Perhaps the public transport costs wouldn’t be so high if people were able to drive and park their car there. Perhaps Anna Bligh Govt and Palmer aren’t exactly friends, but not in the interests of the the QLD Govt whether it is Labour or Liberals in power, to have the stadium sitting half empty or not generating any meaningful revenue in the Summer, it is in their interests to recoup money from their investment, not to mention the away fans the trip brings helps with the tourism industry, even if relatively minutely at first, but it adds up
A lot needs to be looked back on, firstly I recall there being some issues with him not wanting to pre-sell memberships until the squad was known so “people know what they are paying for”, which has based everything on the “team assembled” and not so much community spirit. Contrast that to Fury, only 6kish ($180k pop’n though) granted especially with a legend of the game in Fowler in their ranks and playing well, but it is solid and stable despite poor results, F-Troop come across as quite decent, and one can see it growing steadily slowly over time. But contrast their membership strategy with that of Gold Coast
It isn’t all doom and gloom, Adelaide are doing nicely crowds wise and Perth are bouncing back, but this doesen’t go well with the Roars falling crowds and slipping numbers elsewhere
The Canberra/Expansion issue has been handled disastrously IMO, can see the general strategic sense in going into WS of course, but they have really lost an opportunity, Govt support will go, local football fraternity will be rightly aggrieved. This current bid was the best chance at a successful team there, whereas WS never really had anything decisive at this time. Good to wait a year now but…
Football League in Australia is a fine balancing act, on one hand there is a need for Business acumen, on the other there is a need for Football acumen
Personally agree that while you generally need a Franchise style structure, to regulate number of teams to ensure it is viable within the Australian football economy and teams are generally well placed, and to be able to get rid of NZK where necessary, the overly literal Franchise system (distinct from strucutre) is problematic in the long term. Clubs should be able to choose own manufacturer and organic strips that aren’t mere colour variations of eachother amongst a range of much more serious things. While there is a need for some central control to ensure there is no infighting like previously, not many people are really going to develop a strong long term attachment to a meaningless franchise. It needs to be looked at
My hope is that when in line with AFC Pro League Committees criteria, we split the FFA and A League administration (as to be very carefully considered to stop the two becoming potential rivals like in England), hopefully changes are made then. It will be a tricky issue though, problems of different varieties arise when either one of the Governing body or the League clubs have too much power
November 2nd 2009 @ 6:55am
Pippinu said | November 2nd 2009 @ 6:55am | Report comment
good post
November 2nd 2009 @ 9:59am
KB said | November 2nd 2009 @ 9:59am | Report comment
NUFCMVFC,
congratulations on a good post — a very good explanation of the problems that the GCU FC are facing…
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November 2nd 2009 @ 10:15am
AndyRoo said | November 2nd 2009 @ 10:15am | Report comment
Totally agree they botched Canberra. They should be more clear where Canberra sits and I think they should have commited to Canberra even if they said in 4 years time at least there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Also the Fury wouldn’t be getting 180k in gate receipts. Their Tickets are realy very cheap (if you are a member it is about $11 a game for an Adult). IT’s a good strategy becasue if you are invited to a g ame you have no reason not to go.
I even saw someone wearing a Fury top at my local Supermarket… only about 2k kms from Townsville.