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		<title>By: bever fever</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-247456</link>
		<dc:creator>bever fever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good marketing, i would think its the fans that want see Fevola V the Blues..

Dont know what your angle is, i do know that you follow the NRL and i would expect no different from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good marketing, i would think its the fans that want see Fevola V the Blues..</p>
<p>Dont know what your angle is, i do know that you follow the NRL and i would expect no different from them.</p>
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		<title>By: Firestarter Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-247448</link>
		<dc:creator>Firestarter Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another speaks out in the Age against the Fevola &quot;punishment&quot; from the AFL.

Sports stars&#039; bad behaviour shouldn&#039;t be rewarded
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/contributors/sports-stars-bad-behaviour-shouldnt-be-rewarded-20091116-igtm.html?autostart=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another speaks out in the Age against the Fevola &#8220;punishment&#8221; from the AFL.</p>
<p>Sports stars&#8217; bad behaviour shouldn&#8217;t be rewarded<br />
<a href="http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/contributors/sports-stars-bad-behaviour-shouldnt-be-rewarded-20091116-igtm.html?autostart=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/contributors/sports-stars-bad-behaviour-shouldnt-be-rewarded-20091116-igtm.html?autostart=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Firestarter Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-241463</link>
		<dc:creator>Firestarter Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to see an AFL journo finally make the point I made here! 

&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

Fevola issue exposes AFL&#039;s sheer hypocrisy
http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/fevola-issue-exposes-afls-sheer-hypocrisy/2009/11/07/1257247793117.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

For all of Demetriou&#039;s and his commission&#039;s distaste for Fevola&#039;s behaviour, and for all the work they are putting in place to ensure it does not happen again, the bottom line is that Fevola is a crowd-pleaser and a promotional tool.

No sooner had the deal been completed between Brisbane and Carlton to make Fevola a Lion for a richly rewarding three-year term - with the Blues contributing a six-figure sum for at least each of the first two years of the deal - than the AFL hotline communicated the news to the man completing the 2010 fixture, Simon Lethlean.

And just like that, Fevola, so in disgrace just six weeks ago that he was deemed unwelcome at the AFL&#039;s grand final parade and grand final day motorcade and still with the threat of sexual assault allegations hanging over him, becomes the star of the show.

The AFL admitted that once it knew Fevola was going to Brisbane, it scheduled two of next year&#039;s biggest blockbusters between the player&#039;s old and new teams. Brisbane plays Carlton on two of the season&#039;s three Thursday night games in a bid to wring every last bit of drama out of the Fevola move.

Surely, given what took place at the Brownlow and the AFL&#039;s subsequent anger, the fixturing situation suddenly makes all that disgust a trifle disingenuous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to see an AFL journo finally make the point I made here! </p>
<p>&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Fevola issue exposes AFL&#8217;s sheer hypocrisy<br />
<a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/fevola-issue-exposes-afls-sheer-hypocrisy/2009/11/07/1257247793117.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/fevola-issue-exposes-afls-sheer-hypocrisy/2009/11/07/1257247793117.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1</a></p>
<p>For all of Demetriou&#8217;s and his commission&#8217;s distaste for Fevola&#8217;s behaviour, and for all the work they are putting in place to ensure it does not happen again, the bottom line is that Fevola is a crowd-pleaser and a promotional tool.</p>
<p>No sooner had the deal been completed between Brisbane and Carlton to make Fevola a Lion for a richly rewarding three-year term &#8211; with the Blues contributing a six-figure sum for at least each of the first two years of the deal &#8211; than the AFL hotline communicated the news to the man completing the 2010 fixture, Simon Lethlean.</p>
<p>And just like that, Fevola, so in disgrace just six weeks ago that he was deemed unwelcome at the AFL&#8217;s grand final parade and grand final day motorcade and still with the threat of sexual assault allegations hanging over him, becomes the star of the show.</p>
<p>The AFL admitted that once it knew Fevola was going to Brisbane, it scheduled two of next year&#8217;s biggest blockbusters between the player&#8217;s old and new teams. Brisbane plays Carlton on two of the season&#8217;s three Thursday night games in a bid to wring every last bit of drama out of the Fevola move.</p>
<p>Surely, given what took place at the Brownlow and the AFL&#8217;s subsequent anger, the fixturing situation suddenly makes all that disgust a trifle disingenuous.</p>
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		<title>By: gazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>gazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so what do you suggest firestarter bob? the afl not fixture carlton to play brisbane next season?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what do you suggest firestarter bob? the afl not fixture carlton to play brisbane next season?</p>
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		<title>By: Firestarter Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-237522</link>
		<dc:creator>Firestarter Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People have misunderstood my point. I don&#039;t disagree with anything the AFL has done, nor what Redb and Michael C have posted. 

The issue is the AFL treating the Fevola trading as if it was no different to every other trade. Yet we all know his change of clubs was a punishment for his behaviour and not something that the AFL should make hay from.    
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/three-anzac-games-likely/story-e6frexx0-1225788098889 

&quot;If trades are big enough that they create a need or interest for a certain match-up to occur, we certainly accommodate that after it&#039;s happened,&quot; Lethlean said. This year I think everyone will be looking to see when Fevola plays Carlton and likewise when Barry Hall plays Sydney. If you knew now where Luke Ball was going to be (next year), that might be taken into account too. We&#039;ve got the ability to make changes as substantive as we need to, and we certainly did once guys like Brendan Fevola changed clubs.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People have misunderstood my point. I don&#8217;t disagree with anything the AFL has done, nor what Redb and Michael C have posted. </p>
<p>The issue is the AFL treating the Fevola trading as if it was no different to every other trade. Yet we all know his change of clubs was a punishment for his behaviour and not something that the AFL should make hay from.<br />
<a href="http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/three-anzac-games-likely/story-e6frexx0-1225788098889" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/three-anzac-games-likely/story-e6frexx0-1225788098889</a> </p>
<p>&#8220;If trades are big enough that they create a need or interest for a certain match-up to occur, we certainly accommodate that after it&#8217;s happened,&#8221; Lethlean said. This year I think everyone will be looking to see when Fevola plays Carlton and likewise when Barry Hall plays Sydney. If you knew now where Luke Ball was going to be (next year), that might be taken into account too. We&#8217;ve got the ability to make changes as substantive as we need to, and we certainly did once guys like Brendan Fevola changed clubs.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Westy,

Reasonable assessment. I only raise the Greg Inglis scenario becuase it is fact that he is currently under police investigation with charges pending and still playing for Australia so if Firestarter Blob or whoever wants to gets all high and mighty about Fevola - who has not been charged and it is all speculation then they will get a debate.

I agree with your assessment of Fevola - not a smart cookie, bloody good footballer who can seriously play. When on fire the Lions fans are in for a treat. He has great hands and one of the best contested marks in the competition. I&#039;ve witnessed him kicks goals from 55 metres starting from the boundary fence at the MCG - he did it twice in one game. Anyone who has been to the MCG would know that is a long way out and a tight angle, only a handful in the whole game could kick those goals.

But the drink and his mental acuity don&#039;t mix. 

Redb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Westy,</p>
<p>Reasonable assessment. I only raise the Greg Inglis scenario becuase it is fact that he is currently under police investigation with charges pending and still playing for Australia so if Firestarter Blob or whoever wants to gets all high and mighty about Fevola &#8211; who has not been charged and it is all speculation then they will get a debate.</p>
<p>I agree with your assessment of Fevola &#8211; not a smart cookie, bloody good footballer who can seriously play. When on fire the Lions fans are in for a treat. He has great hands and one of the best contested marks in the competition. I&#8217;ve witnessed him kicks goals from 55 metres starting from the boundary fence at the MCG &#8211; he did it twice in one game. Anyone who has been to the MCG would know that is a long way out and a tight angle, only a handful in the whole game could kick those goals.</p>
<p>But the drink and his mental acuity don&#8217;t mix. </p>
<p>Redb</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on your history of anti AFL posts I&#039;d say there is nothing the AFL could do to please you.  Hardly a barometer for AFL support. 

The fact is there has always been hype about the games involving big name players playing against their old club. 

Whilst 16 teams exist in a 22 week season there will always be opportunities once all teams have played each once to maximise the interest for fans.

That is why Essendon always plays Carlton and Collingwood twice - its what the fans want!

Over the course of the season it balances out remarkably and with a 8 teams finals series the wheat is quickly sorted from the chaff. 

AFL fans that whinge about the fixture always say Collingwood gets a favourable draw, Mick Matlhouse Collingwood&#039;s coach says its  too tough. ;-)  Anyone get the impression the AFL cant win no mattter what they do.  That is why its futile to worry about these things.

Just look forward to next season - we have the current Premiers Geelong in the very first game, they have been belting us for 2-3 years - time for the Bombers to stand up. 

Redb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on your history of anti AFL posts I&#8217;d say there is nothing the AFL could do to please you.  Hardly a barometer for AFL support. </p>
<p>The fact is there has always been hype about the games involving big name players playing against their old club. </p>
<p>Whilst 16 teams exist in a 22 week season there will always be opportunities once all teams have played each once to maximise the interest for fans.</p>
<p>That is why Essendon always plays Carlton and Collingwood twice &#8211; its what the fans want!</p>
<p>Over the course of the season it balances out remarkably and with a 8 teams finals series the wheat is quickly sorted from the chaff. </p>
<p>AFL fans that whinge about the fixture always say Collingwood gets a favourable draw, Mick Matlhouse Collingwood&#8217;s coach says its  too tough. <img src='http://www.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Anyone get the impression the AFL cant win no mattter what they do.  That is why its futile to worry about these things.</p>
<p>Just look forward to next season &#8211; we have the current Premiers Geelong in the very first game, they have been belting us for 2-3 years &#8211; time for the Bombers to stand up. </p>
<p>Redb</p>
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		<title>By: westy</title>
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		<dc:creator>westy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Redb I am guilty just as you in being one eyed. however the female herald Sun journalist is in an a very uneviable position..it is her livlihood and future that is imperilled  as well as his. He can count himself very lucky. He does have a record of misbehaviour and some boorish behaviour. fevola is not an evil man . i hope he gets his life in order especially for his long suffering wife&#039;s sake. however the only  victim is the journalist.
 Inglis  is a very  quiet private  individual and  I think he to  deserves  less haste in judgement. i think Fevola is a bit of a boorish baboon. I do not think he realises or sadly has the maturity to appreciate  the consequences of his behaviour. Just a problem with the jungle juice that he has not had the maturity to acknowlege. He was very lucky in the person he allegedly molested.
The victim in the  the alleged Inglis assault is not as clear cut. It may be that both are victims in this instance.i for one will wait until I cast judgement . the same for brendon in relation to the alleged assault but alas not for the boorish behaviour.
I personally think poor old Brendon was an accident waiting to happen often egged on by what he thought was funny or his perception of what  others thought was funny.
I just think Inglis was a poor choice for your analogy.That is all., As you say there are other more clear cut  transgressors in rugby league and I do not seek to hide these.
best to get back to the topic .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Redb I am guilty just as you in being one eyed. however the female herald Sun journalist is in an a very uneviable position..it is her livlihood and future that is imperilled  as well as his. He can count himself very lucky. He does have a record of misbehaviour and some boorish behaviour. fevola is not an evil man . i hope he gets his life in order especially for his long suffering wife&#8217;s sake. however the only  victim is the journalist.<br />
 Inglis  is a very  quiet private  individual and  I think he to  deserves  less haste in judgement. i think Fevola is a bit of a boorish baboon. I do not think he realises or sadly has the maturity to appreciate  the consequences of his behaviour. Just a problem with the jungle juice that he has not had the maturity to acknowlege. He was very lucky in the person he allegedly molested.<br />
The victim in the  the alleged Inglis assault is not as clear cut. It may be that both are victims in this instance.i for one will wait until I cast judgement . the same for brendon in relation to the alleged assault but alas not for the boorish behaviour.<br />
I personally think poor old Brendon was an accident waiting to happen often egged on by what he thought was funny or his perception of what  others thought was funny.<br />
I just think Inglis was a poor choice for your analogy.That is all., As you say there are other more clear cut  transgressors in rugby league and I do not seek to hide these.<br />
best to get back to the topic .</p>
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		<title>By: Dogs Of War</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-237174</link>
		<dc:creator>Dogs Of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bringing the game into disrepute. Your turn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bringing the game into disrepute. Your turn.</p>
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		<title>By: Firestarter Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-237171</link>
		<dc:creator>Firestarter Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Australia still have a blue collar working class? That should answer your question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Australia still have a blue collar working class? That should answer your question.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are the two rugbies still engaged in a class struggle?</description>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you still havent answered the question as to why he was stood down at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you still havent answered the question as to why he was stood down at all?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-237144</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta think we&#039;ve gone off topic a tad here guys.

how about save it for another day.  It is actually a topic that deserves a full thread looking at the rights and responsibilities of players/administrators/clubs/leagues etc in the face of civil or criminal court proceedings.

Anyone care to scribe???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta think we&#8217;ve gone off topic a tad here guys.</p>
<p>how about save it for another day.  It is actually a topic that deserves a full thread looking at the rights and responsibilities of players/administrators/clubs/leagues etc in the face of civil or criminal court proceedings.</p>
<p>Anyone care to scribe???</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FstBob.

Of course it&#039;s a money making exercise.

The other codes are no different other than the means available -

why else is the NRL season a floating fixture - - because they put more importance on people infront of a tele than attending games - - and it&#039;s down to keep their broadcaster happy.

the ARU and SANZAR in general are going the 3 conference path so the fans can get their &#039;rigged&#039; localised fixture and give&#039;em what they want.......ah....dispicable notion,

and then there&#039;s the HAL and their first 4 seasons of &#039;imbalanced balance&#039;......and now a 6 from 10 finals.....

.....and it&#039;s all the same story - the product is an entertainment business at the elite level.  Otherwise, it might be no better than most the Olympic sports (for the purists only).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FstBob.</p>
<p>Of course it&#8217;s a money making exercise.</p>
<p>The other codes are no different other than the means available -</p>
<p>why else is the NRL season a floating fixture &#8211; - because they put more importance on people infront of a tele than attending games &#8211; - and it&#8217;s down to keep their broadcaster happy.</p>
<p>the ARU and SANZAR in general are going the 3 conference path so the fans can get their &#8216;rigged&#8217; localised fixture and give&#8217;em what they want&#8230;&#8230;.ah&#8230;.dispicable notion,</p>
<p>and then there&#8217;s the HAL and their first 4 seasons of &#8216;imbalanced balance&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;and now a 6 from 10 finals&#8230;..</p>
<p>&#8230;..and it&#8217;s all the same story &#8211; the product is an entertainment business at the elite level.  Otherwise, it might be no better than most the Olympic sports (for the purists only).</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alas, if every Melb based team requests a home game against Collingwood.....is the AFL to listen to their requests or not???

and so, they make the finals, their fans confuse their side with a good team and they get &#039;let down&#039; in September,.....and the world keeps on spinning and everything seems fine.

I can handle it!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alas, if every Melb based team requests a home game against Collingwood&#8230;..is the AFL to listen to their requests or not???</p>
<p>and so, they make the finals, their fans confuse their side with a good team and they get &#8216;let down&#8217; in September,&#8230;..and the world keeps on spinning and everything seems fine.</p>
<p>I can handle it!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dogs Of War</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-237139</link>
		<dc:creator>Dogs Of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said, how long should be stood down for? Your the one saying the NRL hasn&#039;t gone far enough with this matter. So man up and tell us how you feel it should be dealt with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said, how long should be stood down for? Your the one saying the NRL hasn&#8217;t gone far enough with this matter. So man up and tell us how you feel it should be dealt with.</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-237117</link>
		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So having police charges sustained is not cause for suspension until the matter is settled in court?

Why was he stood down at all then? Explain that will you?

What materially has changed in his status with the police?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So having police charges sustained is not cause for suspension until the matter is settled in court?</p>
<p>Why was he stood down at all then? Explain that will you?</p>
<p>What materially has changed in his status with the police?</p>
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		<title>By: Dogs Of War</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-237114</link>
		<dc:creator>Dogs Of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you explain why he should be found GUILTY before he has had his day in court. 

Oh that&#039;s right, your one of those guys that in the old days used to lynch them up in front of the farmhouse. How dare they get a fair trial!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you explain why he should be found GUILTY before he has had his day in court. </p>
<p>Oh that&#8217;s right, your one of those guys that in the old days used to lynch them up in front of the farmhouse. How dare they get a fair trial!</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-237105</link>
		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What actions are those?

Offering assistance to the female journalist concerned including counselling, encouraging her to take the matter further with the AFL&#039;s endorsement?

those actions?

Why is greg inglis even in england?, why is he representing our country? when he currently under investigation for criminal assault against his girlfriend. yet another NRl player charged with assaulting his GF or wife.

you really dont want to play this game becuase the NRL&#039;s record is far from clean. Not only has the NRL been under self acknowledged sponsor pressure it has even considered the extreme measure of docking premiership points for off field behavior.

Explain that and how do you excuse the NRL/ARL&#039;s actions with Greg Inglis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What actions are those?</p>
<p>Offering assistance to the female journalist concerned including counselling, encouraging her to take the matter further with the AFL&#8217;s endorsement?</p>
<p>those actions?</p>
<p>Why is greg inglis even in england?, why is he representing our country? when he currently under investigation for criminal assault against his girlfriend. yet another NRl player charged with assaulting his GF or wife.</p>
<p>you really dont want to play this game becuase the NRL&#8217;s record is far from clean. Not only has the NRL been under self acknowledged sponsor pressure it has even considered the extreme measure of docking premiership points for off field behavior.</p>
<p>Explain that and how do you excuse the NRL/ARL&#8217;s actions with Greg Inglis?</p>
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		<title>By: Dogs Of War</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-237102</link>
		<dc:creator>Dogs Of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are they supposed to do? Send minders out with everybody? It&#039;s not like the NRL doesn&#039;t do it&#039;s bit.  For example the NRL served water at the Dally M&#039;s to the players. AFL served free alcohol to the players at the Brownlows, no matter intoxicated they looked.

You think the guys who play AFL are any different to the NRL guys? You have got to be kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are they supposed to do? Send minders out with everybody? It&#8217;s not like the NRL doesn&#8217;t do it&#8217;s bit.  For example the NRL served water at the Dally M&#8217;s to the players. AFL served free alcohol to the players at the Brownlows, no matter intoxicated they looked.</p>
<p>You think the guys who play AFL are any different to the NRL guys? You have got to be kidding.</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-237099</link>
		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NRL/ARL admin are a joke. If they properly managed the game every second person would not be calling their replacement with an independent commission!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NRL/ARL admin are a joke. If they properly managed the game every second person would not be calling their replacement with an independent commission!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dogs Of War</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-237097</link>
		<dc:creator>Dogs Of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But it was YOU calling the NRL admin a joke for how they have handled off field issues this season. I just brought up how wonderfully kind the AFL have been with it&#039;s off field antics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it was YOU calling the NRL admin a joke for how they have handled off field issues this season. I just brought up how wonderfully kind the AFL have been with it&#8217;s off field antics.</p>
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		<title>By: Firestarter Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-237084</link>
		<dc:creator>Firestarter Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does that excuse the AFL&#039;s actions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does that excuse the AFL&#8217;s actions?</p>
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		<title>By: Firestarter Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-237083</link>
		<dc:creator>Firestarter Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s point Poppinu! AFL gets 7 million fans and yet still resorts to low class acts such as rigging the season schedule to celebrate Fevolva &amp; Hall etc. If the code had any class it wouldn&#039;t do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s point Poppinu! AFL gets 7 million fans and yet still resorts to low class acts such as rigging the season schedule to celebrate Fevolva &amp; Hall etc. If the code had any class it wouldn&#8217;t do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-237081</link>
		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well it was Firestarter Bob who even brought Fevola into the thread - nothing to do with the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well it was Firestarter Bob who even brought Fevola into the thread &#8211; nothing to do with the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Dogs Of War</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-237077</link>
		<dc:creator>Dogs Of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not saying that. Your the one suggesting that AFL&#039;s is much better by your intial comment on why Inglis is playing for Australia. When you have players who have done much worse that the AFL has turned a blind eye to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not saying that. Your the one suggesting that AFL&#8217;s is much better by your intial comment on why Inglis is playing for Australia. When you have players who have done much worse that the AFL has turned a blind eye to.</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-237075</link>
		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only reason Inglis was stood down at all was Melb Storm&#039;s sponsors sphincters contracted faster than a black hole.  Waldron took the sponsor&#039;s pulse once it appeared OK and he played.

But despite the charges being challenged and the presentation of new evidence, police charges remain and a court hearing date set.

Dont even pretend the NRL acts with a superior social conscious here. He is a big name player and that is why he is still playing.

Redb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason Inglis was stood down at all was Melb Storm&#8217;s sponsors sphincters contracted faster than a black hole.  Waldron took the sponsor&#8217;s pulse once it appeared OK and he played.</p>
<p>But despite the charges being challenged and the presentation of new evidence, police charges remain and a court hearing date set.</p>
<p>Dont even pretend the NRL acts with a superior social conscious here. He is a big name player and that is why he is still playing.</p>
<p>Redb</p>
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		<title>By: Dogs Of War</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-237072</link>
		<dc:creator>Dogs Of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So explain how long Inglis has to be stood down oh wise one.

2 weeks is not enough? More than Fevola got.

How about other NRL guys who have been stood down for drinking yet didn&#039;t break the law like the halfback from Cronulla?

Pressuring a poor little journalist to NOT press charges, bit like Jane of Adelaide Parklands. How much was she paid to keep quiet. Then they celebrate what a fabulous career one of the particular members of that incident had this year, though that incident was never brought up when they were replaying his career? Wonder why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So explain how long Inglis has to be stood down oh wise one.</p>
<p>2 weeks is not enough? More than Fevola got.</p>
<p>How about other NRL guys who have been stood down for drinking yet didn&#8217;t break the law like the halfback from Cronulla?</p>
<p>Pressuring a poor little journalist to NOT press charges, bit like Jane of Adelaide Parklands. How much was she paid to keep quiet. Then they celebrate what a fabulous career one of the particular members of that incident had this year, though that incident was never brought up when they were replaying his career? Wonder why?</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-237059</link>
		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah right.

There is a difference at law between a citizen being charged and not charged.  You do know the difference right? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah right.</p>
<p>There is a difference at law between a citizen being charged and not charged.  You do know the difference right? <img src='http://www.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dogs Of War</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/01/the-winners-and-losers-of-the-2010-afl-fixtures/#comment-237058</link>
		<dc:creator>Dogs Of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What, the journalist is too scared to press charges because of what could happen to her career. Not to mention the bringing the game into disrepute with what Fevola got up to that night. Charges or no charges it would have been a suspension in the NRL. 

Shame AFL shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, the journalist is too scared to press charges because of what could happen to her career. Not to mention the bringing the game into disrepute with what Fevola got up to that night. Charges or no charges it would have been a suspension in the NRL. </p>
<p>Shame AFL shame.</p>
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