The last word on the code wars
By Pippinu, 4 Nov 2009 Pippinu is a Roar Guru
- Tagged:
- AFL, Carlton Blues, Footscray, VfL
481 Have your say
It’s 1976 and I’m 14. It’s the last year that I am eligible for a junior membership, which, at that time, for the princely sum of $1.50, allowed you entry to all 22 VFL games of your chosen club (in my case, that was, and is, Footscray).
It’s an okay year for the Scraggers, relatively speaking, and history shows that we scraped into the top 5 after managing a draw in our final game against the top team, Carlton.
But we only won ten games for the year, meaning I had to endure eleven agonising defeats along the way – as I said, relatively successful for the Scraggers!
That season included four trips out to Waverley, and to get there from Footscray by public transport, it was definitely a case of taking a cut lunch, plus a cut dinner for the journey back.
I have a very clear memory of taking on Fitzroy out at Waverley during the season.
They were as unfashionable then as they were for most of the previous century, and took the wooden spoon that season.
Thus it was no surprise that only 7,000 hardy souls turned out to see this fixture on a bitterly cold, windswept day – and the quality of the footy was very reflective of the climatic conditions.
Perversely, it was such a forgettable game that it has left a lasting impression on me. Footscray won the game 4:11:35 to 3:16:34, and as you can see, it was quite a low scoring game.
But here’s the rub: Footscray scored a goal against the wind in the opening 20 seconds of play, and scored the winning goal after the final siren sounded, meaning we effectively only scored two goals in 2 hours of play!
As the clock ticked on towards the 30 minute mark of the last quarter, it really did look like we weren’t going to get that goal, so we started making the long walk around the non-members side to the exit, keeping an eye on whether we were within coo-ee of our own goals.
I can’t remember how exactly, but the next thing we knew, Alan Stoneham had taken a mark on the boundary, directly in front of us, where we were standing above the staircase that would take us down into the bowels of Waverley.
The siren went and we just looked at each other, we didn’t have to say a word: after all that, we’re not going to win this are we?
These were the days before the banana became de rigueur, so Stoneham went straight back, and with no angle to speak of, executed the perfect drop punt that split the sticks.
I can remember our reaction, we didn’t cheer, or jump up, or anything like that – we just laughed out loud, and laughed and laughed and laughed – running out of the stadium to jump on the first bus out of Waverley.
On the bus, we ran into those Footscray supporters who hadn’t hung around.
So disgusted were they, that when we told them we had actually won, absolutely none of them were happy: “didn’t deserve to win”; “they were bloody hopeless, every one of ‘em!”
The train trip from Waverley back to the city was always a long and boring one, but occasionally the footy fans on board from either side would provide some light relief.
On this occasion, there was a bloke from Sydney sitting directly opposite us and he had just been to the game.
He started to talk about rugby league, and how it was a much better game, as we looked at him blankly.
A couple of rows back, a drunk German bloke started to shout out strange words, like: “zie fuhrer!!”
We had no idea what he was talking about, but strangely enough, he was making more sense than this bloke from Sydney.
With all this going on around me, my only thought was: f@rk, I hate coming out to Waverley to watch the footy.
Enjoy sports? Enjoy a bargain? All Sports Online has your favourite sporting brands at up to 70% off. Online only, premium quality sporting goods and merchandise at discounted prices. Get a deal now.
Do you have what it takes to become a sports writer? Write for the roar
AFL articles
- More rugby league players to defect to the AFL? (158)
- Mobile madness: Optus decision bad news for codes (153)
- Slowly but surely, here come the GWS Giants (129)
- Foxtel’s AFL coverage is nirvana for footy fans (87)
- Israel Folau now ready for AFL (71)
- Optus ruling actually a good thing for AFL fans (52)
- Will GWS Giants win a game in 2012? (50)
- Who’s to blame for the Majak Daw beat-up? (29)
- AFL Tigers need to step up, says Cotchin
- Riewoldt wants new Saints captain in 2013
- AFL divisions are the way of the future (83)
- Crows changing, but will this AFL preview change your life?
- AFL’s most hated club turns 120 years old (69)
- North Melbourne suspend Majak Daw (2)
- AFL divisions are the way of the future (83)
- Crows changing, but will this AFL preview change your life? (1)
- Is Heath Shaw the right leader for Collingwood? (11)
- Could a female coach succeed in the AFL? (35)
- Demons’ two captain Jacks the right leadership choice (5)
- Mobile madness: Optus decision bad news for codes (153)
- Who will rise in AFL’s season 2012? (19)
- Explore:
- AFL, Carlton Blues, Footscray, VfL

katzilla said | November 4th 2009 @ 3:37am | Report comment
1st word in a thread claiming to be the Last word! Zoinks!
Pippinu said | November 4th 2009 @ 8:36am | Report comment
katz
I was about to say you are the first and last to comment – and thus I had achieved my life long ambition of bringing the code wars to an end – alas – someone put up a second comment – damn!!
Rodney McDonell said | November 4th 2009 @ 8:27am | Report comment
This was an article on code wars? Sounds more like a trip down memory lane. That article is not my cuppa tea… it probably would have been if the content reflected the title.
Pippinu said | November 4th 2009 @ 8:37am | Report comment
Rodney
and in your shortish comment – you have successfully synthesised the whole of my article – and the true nature of the code wars – thank you.
AndyRoo said | November 4th 2009 @ 8:48am | Report comment
This article was about AFL but in the AFL tab…. that’s a new twist
I do remember paying $2 to watch Balmain vs Brisbane (and you could sit anywhere). It was the first game they used video evidence or such to cite someone with the general feeling being it not fair and if the ref didn’t see it you should get away with it.
Pippinu said | November 4th 2009 @ 8:51am | Report comment
Andy
I initially attempted to pump up the “code war” angle by having it categorised as “football” – but the editors picked up on it!!!
Redb said | November 4th 2009 @ 9:41am | Report comment
The crossed arms brigade will never learn to appreciate other sports
Pippinu said | November 4th 2009 @ 9:54am | Report comment
Redb
you weren’t in that same train carriage with me in 1976 by chance??
Redb said | November 4th 2009 @ 10:41am | Report comment
Intrinsic in all football code wars is the punter/poster who says: “tried it, didnt like it, my games better”. Fair chance they sat arms crossed didnt bother to find out the rules, differences in game play,etc. Yawn!
Young children establish speech problems from their hearing – doesn’t make sense right. But the fact is they listen and learn to speak from what they hear. If the ears are blocked or impaired their prefectly fine vocal chords mirror the sounds and speech is subsequently affected.
The same sort of thing applies to football codes, having been brought up watching a certain type of football game play it becomes subsconsiously enshrined in your sporting appreciation neurones as right. Anything else looks wrong/different. You have to unlearn to understand and appreciate all the football codes.
It is why the AFL and other sports spend time on juniors, schools,etc becuase by the time many people become adults it is too late, they will cross their arms and expect to be instantly entertained.
Redb
Pippinu said | November 4th 2009 @ 10:50am | Report comment
This bloke did sit with his arms crossed – but in fairness, he was trying hard not to draw the attention of the drunk German.
Also, it has to be said, if the people who attended the game didn’t enjoy it much (and we’re talking about a one point win after the siren!!) – then this bloke from Sydney didn’t stand a chance!!
And that’s just another layer, one of many, that criss cross this topic.
It’s complicated folks, very complicated.
I also left the bit out about making eyes at the girls on the train wearing Fitzroy colours.
There comes a moment in a 14 year old’s life when he has to think long and hard about his undying devotion to his club above all other things (even if it is but a momentary lapse).
AndyRoo said | November 4th 2009 @ 10:55am | Report comment
It’s true…. I can come up with no other reason for why I love cricket. There is definitely no logic to it that is for sure.
M1tch said | November 4th 2009 @ 9:45am | Report comment
I’m sure there will be many more code war articles
oikee said | November 4th 2009 @ 10:51am | Report comment
This is not the last word, i have a grand announcement to make, after reading some of those links on the last site about sheedy wanting to take on NZ, and some PNG guy living his dream(get out of PNG free card, and some irish dudes coming over for a holiday in the VFL comp, and another? oh the Sth African refugee. Very nice, going to a country thats pretty much like his own. Very international.
So my announcement, A.F.L, please stop digging a big hole which you never can excape. Their is no such thing as international AFL. Hear me out, we have Rugby Union, Rugby League and soccer, not to mention the acadamies that AFL are building in QLD and NSW. My question, why.
I heard some guy saying that a basketball player was sadly lost to AFL because he never played their game. Why would he, he can make millions overseas playing basketball, 10 of millions, but the AFL wants this kid for their own benifit, why.
Let go of the pole, please, here is a promo, all you rugby soccer and league players out their, and any tall basketball players, stop what your doing, forget your international pathways, forget playing for your country. Do we have a oppurtunity for you, come joinn the Aussie rules family, where you will live your dreams down under, and represent a club of our choice and become a huge star, in Melbounre.
And after we are finished with you, you can become one of our private missionaries to wonder the earth telling all and sundry what a great game you played, what a great game this so-called aussie game is, forget about the other codes, nobody can explore australia like us Marn Grooky followers can, we even have a team in Tassie, Hold on, no we dont, their not worthy, stench of the earth but we keep them happy with one day, you to may dream. ?
BULLOCKS,, its the biggest pile of dribble i have ever read. Young kids want to play for their country and see the world, AFL will not, and can never cater for this around the world. Send the under 16′s on a holiday camp to Africa, yeah beauty.
League Union and soccer have been doing this for decades. The under 15 school rugby league national Australian team went to England in 1974, i know, because i was a unhappy hooker who missed out on the trip. Cheers.
And this is the campaign i would be unleasing on the AFL, just to put them in their place. I am sick of this we want every talent in the country, go jump. The other codes offer so much more and the brainwashing needs to stop, right here right now. As the Scientology guy said on a current affairs.
I want to see my kid playing for his country, not back-yard rules.
Get behind me guys, lets rock this planet.
Redb said | November 4th 2009 @ 11:10am | Report comment
let’s go further and eliminate rugby league so that we have just two global sports to concentrate on: soccer and rugby.
Pippinu said | November 4th 2009 @ 11:11am | Report comment
Two? Surely that’s one too many!!
M1tch said | November 4th 2009 @ 12:42pm | Report comment
I knew thats what you wanted …all along lol
K B said | November 4th 2009 @ 11:30am | Report comment
That’s a nice piece Oikee — glad you wrote it and these Marn Grooky followers
have dug a hole so deep now that they will find it so hard to fill it back in when their star Grooky convert Karmichael Hunt, resigns for the Brissie Broncos — when he reads the fine print that he will have to end his career playing Grooky in South Africa, instead of the London Broncos in the UK…
~~~~~~~
KB
cab711 said | November 26th 2009 @ 2:58pm | Report comment
Oikee thats priceless mate. What a fantastic response, I am well behind you. Cheers!
Pippinu said | November 4th 2009 @ 11:03am | Report comment
“all you rugby soccer and league players out their, and any tall basketball players,”
Oikee
don’t you want the short basketball players to jump on board?
Pippinu said | November 4th 2009 @ 11:04am | Report comment
Oikee
maayte – if we’re going to end up reading posts like that – we’ll all be wishing the code wars were over already!!
Sam M said | November 4th 2009 @ 11:10am | Report comment
Yeah those international pathways in League are amazing… the North of England, now that’s a cultural change for the better… Or the one team in France that has a biased for picking French players (rightly so)… Oh wait there’s a Welsh team, now that’s a mighty impressive country that all and sundry would want to play in, oh wait it’s not even it’s own country…
Not that Union is much better…
Glass houses…
Kettles and Pots…
oikee said | November 4th 2009 @ 11:28am | Report comment
Very nice Sam, wonder if you have ever been to Nth England, besides New Zealand, its the best place i have ever seen. And the guys also traveled to sth France. Playing super league they can explore the whole of Europe. Our national rugby league teams normally head to Mexico for holidays, whats your point.
North England is wonderful , i would recommend it to anyone and live their in a heartbeat.
Colin N said | November 4th 2009 @ 11:38am | Report comment
“Very nice Sam, wonder if you have ever been to Nth England, besides New Zealand, its the best place i have ever seen”
That’s the first thing I have ever agreed with oikee about, the North of England is a wonderful place (in certain areas) and I’m very lucky to have resided there all my life.
Pippinu said | November 4th 2009 @ 11:46am | Report comment
I’ve never met an Australian who has had a longish trip to England and not enjoyed it.
Gibbo said | November 4th 2009 @ 3:22pm | Report comment
does that say something about england or aussie tourists?
Sam M said | November 5th 2009 @ 6:30am | Report comment
There’s nothing wrong the North of England, and yes I have been there. It was a reference to your comments regarding Rugby League’s ‘International’ aspects and your sarcastic comments regarding PNG players in AFL etc.
How does Super League allow you to explore the whole of Europe? Because you’re close by and you can take a holiday? Or because your team went on holidays to Mexico? Big deal, the AFL season is shorter and you get paid more so you can take a holiday anywhere you want too. That is my point.
If you’re going to pick on a sport for trying to build it’s own international scene, try leaving Rugby League out of it. And finally
Mushi said | November 12th 2009 @ 12:56pm | Report comment
I’ve been to Northern England and whilst nice to visit I’d be suffering from self inflicted shotgun wounds if forced to live there
oikee said | November 4th 2009 @ 11:15am | Report comment
Well, until all the codes of Australia are under the one roof, and i mean one roof, where talent can be selected to each code, which it can , we will have code wars. I am not starting the code wars, its already going on, every second word from a afl followers mouth mentions this, lets take NZ, now the islands, put that post in about us stealing a sth african, and that png is a good story, oh dont forget to mention the irish , I think i got away with it, did i mention the war. Sounds like Faulty Towers.
All codes have good representation around oz, and most will grow, we dont need to keep putting our kids in jersey’s before the age of 2, let them grow up without biase,,, for crying out softly. I have 4 codes here in Brisbane, my kids get the pleasure of following any which code they like, i have no influience over them whatsoever. Their is more to this, i will tell the story at a later date.
Pippinu said | November 4th 2009 @ 11:28am | Report comment
Oikee
you don’t influence your kids?
The thing about a dad influencing the kids (without the mum’s full support) is that the kids simply add it to their armoury of buttons to push.
So, I’m upset about something they’ve done – they’re going to make me pay one way or the other for telling them off – a good one is to say: “I hate the bulldogs”.
What did you just say??!!
AndyRoo said | November 4th 2009 @ 11:33am | Report comment
a good one is to say: “I hate the bulldogs”.
What did you just say??!!
hahahaha
loved that.
I can see his little face go white when he realises he has gone to far….runs of under the table yelling “I meant Canterbury”
Pippinu said | November 4th 2009 @ 11:37am | Report comment
I tell you what Andyroo – lucky for them that corporaral punishment is frowned upon!!
Pippinu said | November 4th 2009 @ 11:43am | Report comment
“I meant Canterbury”
Pippinu said | November 4th 2009 @ 11:51am | Report comment
Interestingly, my 8 year old son is only now starting to unravel what the various mascots are (and kids of that age are really more attracted to names, colours and mascots than the actual game itself).
He recently wanted to buy a new DS game that featured fights between the mascots – something likd Mascot Mania. He ended up with the AFL one, but really wanted the NRL one.
Why? He likes some of the mascots, notably, the dragons, knights, warriors, etc
But he enjoys playing the other one nevertheless.
With the A-League, in our games of corridor or backyard soccer, he always wants to be the Phoenix.
He wouldn’t have a clue where Wellington is, but he’s heard of the phoenix, he likes mythical creatures, he knows there’s a Harry Potter book and film about one, etc etc
Our loyalties to sports or clubs can arise from a wide range of sources – most of them are an absurd explanation for what might become a life long addiction – but that’s the way it is.
oikee said | November 4th 2009 @ 11:57am | Report comment
Thanks Pip, i am sending that straight to league headquaters, we have the Titans, next might be the Trolls, northern trolls, like we have on here sometimes.
Pippinu said | November 4th 2009 @ 12:00pm | Report comment
You just reminded me – the Titans is another one of the names he likes (mythology ,etc).
In fact he ended up taking over one of my old computer games – the Age of Mythology – he just loves seeing the mythical creatures fight each other!!
AndyRoo said | November 4th 2009 @ 12:04pm | Report comment
I dismissed Mr Cheese recommendations for names as silly….but seems he was right all along.
Penrith Pichuchus coming to the A league soon.
Also Oikee the NRL need to mandate having a big and small mascott. The panthers have a big panther and a baby panther (he wears a nappy) and the kids love it.
So the Knights need one guy on a full size horse but also need some one on a pony.
Redb said | November 4th 2009 @ 12:13pm | Report comment
or I hate collingwood / support anyone who plays them.