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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good idea. Lets play it under the expanded EVL&#039;s here and existing rules there for a joke!

However, an ANZACs side was mentioned a couple of years ago to replicate the lions tours and practically, I think this will be possible given Aus and NZs geography, demographics and cultural history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good idea. Lets play it under the expanded EVL&#8217;s here and existing rules there for a joke!</p>
<p>However, an ANZACs side was mentioned a couple of years ago to replicate the lions tours and practically, I think this will be possible given Aus and NZs geography, demographics and cultural history.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would actually like to see a NH team (like the British and Irish Lions do) vs a SH team (imagine that- it would mostly only have South Africa and New Zealand, with a token Wallaby and Argentinian). It would be a great advertisement for the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would actually like to see a NH team (like the British and Irish Lions do) vs a SH team (imagine that- it would mostly only have South Africa and New Zealand, with a token Wallaby and Argentinian). It would be a great advertisement for the game.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkR</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wix - have you SEEN teh skill level of teh recent test, whether BL, or Bledisloe, yes defence is tighter but the players are doing things that 20 yrs ago none of tehm would have even attempted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wix &#8211; have you SEEN teh skill level of teh recent test, whether BL, or Bledisloe, yes defence is tighter but the players are doing things that 20 yrs ago none of tehm would have even attempted.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkR</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KO - Congrats for picking the better one to go to - I hope like hell Fox replay the Valuev Haye fight over here as I&#039;ve been wanting to see a boxer take out one of those giants for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KO &#8211; Congrats for picking the better one to go to &#8211; I hope like hell Fox replay the Valuev Haye fight over here as I&#8217;ve been wanting to see a boxer take out one of those giants for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: pothale</title>
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		<dc:creator>pothale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OME - we&#039;re totally serious on here all the time.  

We&#039;re just greatly misunderstood Northerners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OME &#8211; we&#8217;re totally serious on here all the time.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re just greatly misunderstood Northerners.</p>
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		<title>By: OldManEmu</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldManEmu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the great reasons for the Roar is to read Pothale and Knives Out - although it is difficult to figure sometime who is the straight man and who is telling the jokes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the great reasons for the Roar is to read Pothale and Knives Out &#8211; although it is difficult to figure sometime who is the straight man and who is telling the jokes.</p>
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		<title>By: Parisien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parisien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At last something we can agree upon. Might I humbly suggest you can get a decent pint of Guinness poured in the Irish pubs of Paris: The Quiet Man, The Green Linnet, Kitty O&#039; Shea&#039;s, the James Joyce, The Coolin&#039;,  and Finnegans Wake, just to mention a few of my favourites...
Its a quiet Friday night pre-match...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At last something we can agree upon. Might I humbly suggest you can get a decent pint of Guinness poured in the Irish pubs of Paris: The Quiet Man, The Green Linnet, Kitty O&#8217; Shea&#8217;s, the James Joyce, The Coolin&#8217;,  and Finnegans Wake, just to mention a few of my favourites&#8230;<br />
Its a quiet Friday night pre-match&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Parisien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parisien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In what sense exactly KO?</description>
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		<title>By: pothale</title>
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		<dc:creator>pothale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re a jam roll?  I thought you were English, now you&#039;re telling me you&#039;re Polish, as most people are?  Very confusing, you sarf Londoners.  

Leaving aside your dicky mince pies, next time I&#039;m in London over the next two weeks, if you&#039;re up for a pint whilst watching a match in Patrick&#039;s or somewhere and hurling abuse at the SH blokes, let me know.

Horan&#039;s injury sounds like more than just run of the mill injury - it&#039;s a head one, and noises I&#039;m hearing is that it&#039;s not good.  Am sorry for the guy.

Healy and Court are likely to feature in matchday 22.  Flannery may also be out for first game and    Kearney is another possible injury against Australia which would be a shame.  O&#039;Leary and a couple of others are carrying knocks but that&#039;s it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re a jam roll?  I thought you were English, now you&#8217;re telling me you&#8217;re Polish, as most people are?  Very confusing, you sarf Londoners.  </p>
<p>Leaving aside your dicky mince pies, next time I&#8217;m in London over the next two weeks, if you&#8217;re up for a pint whilst watching a match in Patrick&#8217;s or somewhere and hurling abuse at the SH blokes, let me know.</p>
<p>Horan&#8217;s injury sounds like more than just run of the mill injury &#8211; it&#8217;s a head one, and noises I&#8217;m hearing is that it&#8217;s not good.  Am sorry for the guy.</p>
<p>Healy and Court are likely to feature in matchday 22.  Flannery may also be out for first game and    Kearney is another possible injury against Australia which would be a shame.  O&#8217;Leary and a couple of others are carrying knocks but that&#8217;s it.</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Guinness is poured badly all over the world, the New Yorkers and parts of London are the worst offenders – throw it into the glass and hand it out. Yeuch.&#039;

Don&#039;t forget the comedy logo in the foam: &quot;No logo in the foam, mate.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Guinness is poured badly all over the world, the New Yorkers and parts of London are the worst offenders – throw it into the glass and hand it out. Yeuch.&#8217;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget the comedy logo in the foam: &#8220;No logo in the foam, mate.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t make me blush, Pothale. Everybody has a hobby. Besides, what was I meant to do at university? Study or spend hours searching out rugby info so as to help me hand over my student loan to Paddy Power?

It was my birthday yesterday. Thank you for your wishes on another thread.

I had a ticket for the Australia ticket but had to sell it as I am off to Germania vere all ze Germans live so I can vatch David Haye beat ze granny out of Valuev. I might go to the NZ test but I&#039;m not actually a huge fan of live rugby. My eyesight isn&#039;t fantastic but I refuse to wear contact lenses or my glasses. Too much tends to happen in rugby whereas with sports like football or boxing what you see is all you need to see.

Hermin&#039;s probably right - I am a jam roll, but then so are most people. It&#039;s where you figure in the overall table of jam rolls that counts, IMO. 

I see Horan&#039;s injured. Good news for Ireland. Kidney has to play Healy now, which I suspect he was going to do anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t make me blush, Pothale. Everybody has a hobby. Besides, what was I meant to do at university? Study or spend hours searching out rugby info so as to help me hand over my student loan to Paddy Power?</p>
<p>It was my birthday yesterday. Thank you for your wishes on another thread.</p>
<p>I had a ticket for the Australia ticket but had to sell it as I am off to Germania vere all ze Germans live so I can vatch David Haye beat ze granny out of Valuev. I might go to the NZ test but I&#8217;m not actually a huge fan of live rugby. My eyesight isn&#8217;t fantastic but I refuse to wear contact lenses or my glasses. Too much tends to happen in rugby whereas with sports like football or boxing what you see is all you need to see.</p>
<p>Hermin&#8217;s probably right &#8211; I am a jam roll, but then so are most people. It&#8217;s where you figure in the overall table of jam rolls that counts, IMO. </p>
<p>I see Horan&#8217;s injured. Good news for Ireland. Kidney has to play Healy now, which I suspect he was going to do anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: pothale</title>
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		<dc:creator>pothale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Top class stuff, KO, as per usual.  For someone so relatively young (it is your birthday this week?), your knowledge and insight is always welcome.

Now if you could just get rid of that English sterotype you carry around with you, you might turn out to be a decent bloke, despite Hermin&#039;s plaintive bleats.

BTW, you going to either of the other two matches at Twickenham?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Top class stuff, KO, as per usual.  For someone so relatively young (it is your birthday this week?), your knowledge and insight is always welcome.</p>
<p>Now if you could just get rid of that English sterotype you carry around with you, you might turn out to be a decent bloke, despite Hermin&#8217;s plaintive bleats.</p>
<p>BTW, you going to either of the other two matches at Twickenham?</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure how the Wales v NZ scrum battle will play out, Pothale. Of Woodock, Jenkins, Tialata and Jones probably only Jones is a truly consistently powerhouse scrummager. Woodcock is a technician, Tialata is erratic and apparently Jenkins is a reluctant tight merchant. Neither Woodcock or Jenkins have out and out ruined opponents but both consistently do well through guile and nous. Therefore, the absence of Woodcock v Jones will be a loss for the purists. 

Crockett and James will never be considered greats and both have question marks over them. I recall that whilst Crockett has always been on the edges of the NZ squad Hansen publicly questioned his core strength, which always struck me as a bit of a public dressing down. Crockett probably stands on the wrong side of tall for a loosehead but I doubt James will be able to gain much purchase off him. James is a journeyman club player at loosehead who has never managed to usurp Duncan Jones from the 1 jersey at the Ospreys and yet now he is being given the Wales 3 jersey, all on the basis of less than three hours of tighthead scrummaging at franchise level. Less than three hours in which James got taken to the cleaners so badly that he was even given a special receipt to remind him not to try it again. 

It is a truly bizarre selection from Gatland. Whilst Jenkins is no Euan Murray he has good experience of playing tighthead, and could have formed a 1-3 combination with Duncan Jones (54 caps), thus giving the Welsh front row a real dash of experience: Jones (54), Rees (30), Jenkins (68). I sincerely believe that E.L. Roberts was the best option to attack/offer a bulwark against the NZ scrum and the taller, slim Crockett, but Gatland seems to have opted out of that selection in favour of making public utterances about the quality of the GP, and thereby implying that all Welsh players should be playing in Wales. This politicking could come back to haunt him with the much maligned Craig Mitchell as backup for the 3 jersey.

An interesting side note is that Crockett will have Eaton scrummaging behind him, and James will have A.W. Jones scrummaging behind him. Both are 5s but Jones seems to be making that common mistake of trying make people believe that he is a 4 lock. It was made abundantly clear on the Lions tour that whilst a very gifted young and enthusiastic middle jumper he is by no means the enforcer to solidify a scrum. His combination with Charteris will not only affect the scrummage, but also the lineout (moreso in the absence of J. Thomas). Jones will have to jump at 4. Potentially, therefore, it could be a long night at the set piece for Wales. Perhaps Gatland is seeking a fast and loose brand, but we all know that the piano has to be constructed before the ivores are given a good finger jabbing. This intriguing selection has allowed Henry the luxury of resting Donnelly (who provides a good option from the bench) and giving Eaton a run out. Eaton also has the luxury of playing with Brad Thorn - a true enforcer. Their pairing has a better balance to it than Jones and Charteris.

The hooking battle should be interesting. During the Lions tour Matthew Rees developed from a player who struggled at the lineout, and often overplayed his hand as a carrier into a responsible (except for his attempted punch on B. du Plessis in the first test) and reliable middle man. Hore has always been reliable (except for the occasional lineout yip), and is a real workhorse. Both players exert a lot of influence on the breakdown and are your typical, nuggety, stocky hookers. It should be a good battle. Hopefully for Wales Rees can kick on and progress more and Hore can offer his usual committed, strong presence.

Last but not least we have the tussle between Jenkins and Tialata. Tialata is a monster but not a particularly intimidating monster. Regardless, he is a bulky option and should be able to suck up what Jenkins has to offer. At least if the NZ front five struggle - which I think is unlikely - Henry can call on Donnelly to shore things up. Ultimately the NZ front five has a better balance to it. The changes made to the Welsh front five appear purely cosmetic and I would expect a lot of wheeling and collapses to occur during the match, with NZ to have a lineout dominance.

Gee whizz.. I haven&#039;t even looked at the back rows or the bench..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure how the Wales v NZ scrum battle will play out, Pothale. Of Woodock, Jenkins, Tialata and Jones probably only Jones is a truly consistently powerhouse scrummager. Woodcock is a technician, Tialata is erratic and apparently Jenkins is a reluctant tight merchant. Neither Woodcock or Jenkins have out and out ruined opponents but both consistently do well through guile and nous. Therefore, the absence of Woodcock v Jones will be a loss for the purists. </p>
<p>Crockett and James will never be considered greats and both have question marks over them. I recall that whilst Crockett has always been on the edges of the NZ squad Hansen publicly questioned his core strength, which always struck me as a bit of a public dressing down. Crockett probably stands on the wrong side of tall for a loosehead but I doubt James will be able to gain much purchase off him. James is a journeyman club player at loosehead who has never managed to usurp Duncan Jones from the 1 jersey at the Ospreys and yet now he is being given the Wales 3 jersey, all on the basis of less than three hours of tighthead scrummaging at franchise level. Less than three hours in which James got taken to the cleaners so badly that he was even given a special receipt to remind him not to try it again. </p>
<p>It is a truly bizarre selection from Gatland. Whilst Jenkins is no Euan Murray he has good experience of playing tighthead, and could have formed a 1-3 combination with Duncan Jones (54 caps), thus giving the Welsh front row a real dash of experience: Jones (54), Rees (30), Jenkins (68). I sincerely believe that E.L. Roberts was the best option to attack/offer a bulwark against the NZ scrum and the taller, slim Crockett, but Gatland seems to have opted out of that selection in favour of making public utterances about the quality of the GP, and thereby implying that all Welsh players should be playing in Wales. This politicking could come back to haunt him with the much maligned Craig Mitchell as backup for the 3 jersey.</p>
<p>An interesting side note is that Crockett will have Eaton scrummaging behind him, and James will have A.W. Jones scrummaging behind him. Both are 5s but Jones seems to be making that common mistake of trying make people believe that he is a 4 lock. It was made abundantly clear on the Lions tour that whilst a very gifted young and enthusiastic middle jumper he is by no means the enforcer to solidify a scrum. His combination with Charteris will not only affect the scrummage, but also the lineout (moreso in the absence of J. Thomas). Jones will have to jump at 4. Potentially, therefore, it could be a long night at the set piece for Wales. Perhaps Gatland is seeking a fast and loose brand, but we all know that the piano has to be constructed before the ivores are given a good finger jabbing. This intriguing selection has allowed Henry the luxury of resting Donnelly (who provides a good option from the bench) and giving Eaton a run out. Eaton also has the luxury of playing with Brad Thorn &#8211; a true enforcer. Their pairing has a better balance to it than Jones and Charteris.</p>
<p>The hooking battle should be interesting. During the Lions tour Matthew Rees developed from a player who struggled at the lineout, and often overplayed his hand as a carrier into a responsible (except for his attempted punch on B. du Plessis in the first test) and reliable middle man. Hore has always been reliable (except for the occasional lineout yip), and is a real workhorse. Both players exert a lot of influence on the breakdown and are your typical, nuggety, stocky hookers. It should be a good battle. Hopefully for Wales Rees can kick on and progress more and Hore can offer his usual committed, strong presence.</p>
<p>Last but not least we have the tussle between Jenkins and Tialata. Tialata is a monster but not a particularly intimidating monster. Regardless, he is a bulky option and should be able to suck up what Jenkins has to offer. At least if the NZ front five struggle &#8211; which I think is unlikely &#8211; Henry can call on Donnelly to shore things up. Ultimately the NZ front five has a better balance to it. The changes made to the Welsh front five appear purely cosmetic and I would expect a lot of wheeling and collapses to occur during the match, with NZ to have a lineout dominance.</p>
<p>Gee whizz.. I haven&#8217;t even looked at the back rows or the bench..</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not on you nelly. I&#039;m no bumpkin. I&#039;m a geezer, me. South London, mate... et cetera, et cetera. C&#039;or blimey and all that.</description>
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		<title>By: pothale</title>
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		<dc:creator>pothale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No contest - Guinness.  Kilkenny is a derivative of Smithwicks (you don&#039;t pronounce the W which gave a lot of people outside Ireland problems, so they changed the name and made it slightly stronger).  I used to drink it when I were a lad, but moved across to the dark side when I got sense and wanted to avoid the cruel hangovers after a night literally on the beer.

Guinness is poured badly all over the world, the New Yorkers and parts of London are the worst offenders - throw it into the glass and hand it out.  Yeuch.

Am not sure about Williams and whether he&#039;s lost his sparkle - he got it together in the final Lions match, but Ospreys have not been singing from the same hymn sheet so far this season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No contest &#8211; Guinness.  Kilkenny is a derivative of Smithwicks (you don&#8217;t pronounce the W which gave a lot of people outside Ireland problems, so they changed the name and made it slightly stronger).  I used to drink it when I were a lad, but moved across to the dark side when I got sense and wanted to avoid the cruel hangovers after a night literally on the beer.</p>
<p>Guinness is poured badly all over the world, the New Yorkers and parts of London are the worst offenders &#8211; throw it into the glass and hand it out.  Yeuch.</p>
<p>Am not sure about Williams and whether he&#8217;s lost his sparkle &#8211; he got it together in the final Lions match, but Ospreys have not been singing from the same hymn sheet so far this season.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkR</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&amp; GTW - I don&#039;t want to see them reset all day, I just want teh ref to police the put in &amp; the drive properly. If te scrum goes down when teh balls at the back &amp; the scrums static they should just call for the ball to be cleared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&amp; GTW &#8211; I don&#8217;t want to see them reset all day, I just want teh ref to police the put in &amp; the drive properly. If te scrum goes down when teh balls at the back &amp; the scrums static they should just call for the ball to be cleared.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkR</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pothale, I reckon you&#039;re going to see some good running anyway even if the forwards aren&#039;t at parity. The respective teams breakdowns palys will be itneresting as I;&#039;ve been seriously impressed by the Bok &amp; AB counter rucking in the TN games. Williams on Jane should be interesting, or is he up against Guilford (pretty sure he&#039;s a left wing). All will be revealed on Sun am &amp; the bragging rights will be sealed in the first 2 weeks I reckon.

Now, serious question, Kilkeny or Guiness, I can only get the cans over here &amp; you seriously don&#039;t want to know how cold the Ockers serve their Guiness &amp; how badly they pour it......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pothale, I reckon you&#8217;re going to see some good running anyway even if the forwards aren&#8217;t at parity. The respective teams breakdowns palys will be itneresting as I;&#8217;ve been seriously impressed by the Bok &amp; AB counter rucking in the TN games. Williams on Jane should be interesting, or is he up against Guilford (pretty sure he&#8217;s a left wing). All will be revealed on Sun am &amp; the bragging rights will be sealed in the first 2 weeks I reckon.</p>
<p>Now, serious question, Kilkeny or Guiness, I can only get the cans over here &amp; you seriously don&#8217;t want to know how cold the Ockers serve their Guiness &amp; how badly they pour it&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is extremely difficult to forecast results of International rugby games, because rugby in both hemispheres has become a smash and grab game where the biggest and the fittest is more likely to determine the result. If  smash and grab isn&#039;t the focus then kick and chase will be. Either way, true rugby skills have been subordinated to the point where they all but vanished.  The Tokyo Bledislsoe was a good example of how the malaise has infected even the previuosly fabulous All Blacks.

This is the sad state of the game today, as I see it.

In the late 80&#039;s, early 90&#039;s when Rugby League was in a similar state of decline,  they worked out  the changes needed to reverse the trend, and produced an actractive again game, which now packs &#039;em in.  (Mind you, I would not blame anyone saying that &#039;six play the balls and one kick&#039; is skilful and attractive.) But the punters have voted with their feet, big time. And they have undoubtedly attracted hordes of &#039;swinging voters&#039; away from our game (which used to be played in heaven) 

So I call upon those with influence, such as our very own Spiro, to launch a campaign to get John O&#039;Sleepy O&#039;Niel and his merry band of rugby luminaries to do &#039;something&#039;. They could start at home with the Wallabies, and then move &#039;uptown&#039;  to our colleagues in NZ and SA, and maybe later the IRB might even sit up and take notice.

I have intentionally not offered any ideas,  in the hope of attractiing some feedback from those who may be closer to the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is extremely difficult to forecast results of International rugby games, because rugby in both hemispheres has become a smash and grab game where the biggest and the fittest is more likely to determine the result. If  smash and grab isn&#8217;t the focus then kick and chase will be. Either way, true rugby skills have been subordinated to the point where they all but vanished.  The Tokyo Bledislsoe was a good example of how the malaise has infected even the previuosly fabulous All Blacks.</p>
<p>This is the sad state of the game today, as I see it.</p>
<p>In the late 80&#8242;s, early 90&#8242;s when Rugby League was in a similar state of decline,  they worked out  the changes needed to reverse the trend, and produced an actractive again game, which now packs &#8216;em in.  (Mind you, I would not blame anyone saying that &#8216;six play the balls and one kick&#8217; is skilful and attractive.) But the punters have voted with their feet, big time. And they have undoubtedly attracted hordes of &#8216;swinging voters&#8217; away from our game (which used to be played in heaven) </p>
<p>So I call upon those with influence, such as our very own Spiro, to launch a campaign to get John O&#8217;Sleepy O&#8217;Niel and his merry band of rugby luminaries to do &#8216;something&#8217;. They could start at home with the Wallabies, and then move &#8216;uptown&#8217;  to our colleagues in NZ and SA, and maybe later the IRB might even sit up and take notice.</p>
<p>I have intentionally not offered any ideas,  in the hope of attractiing some feedback from those who may be closer to the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Go_the_Wannabe's</title>
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		<dc:creator>Go_the_Wannabe's</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And rightly so......who wants to see scrums set all day long? 

What does it matter if the scrum collapses after the ball has been fed? (Except near the line of course).

It&#039;ll be another penalty shooting contest on the weekend, or as fellow roarer Doug calls it &quot;Whistle Ball&quot;.

How true it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And rightly so&#8230;&#8230;who wants to see scrums set all day long? </p>
<p>What does it matter if the scrum collapses after the ball has been fed? (Except near the line of course).</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll be another penalty shooting contest on the weekend, or as fellow roarer Doug calls it &#8220;Whistle Ball&#8221;.</p>
<p>How true it is.</p>
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		<title>By: vinay verma</title>
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		<dc:creator>vinay verma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robbo, I did say that financial clout was the last thing that should determine the direction. It doesn&#039;t follow that money is always right. Stanford proved that with Cricket.I am not well versed in the History of Rugby but unless you nourish talent at the grass roots you cant have a strong National Team. Culture,tradition and respect for the History of the game have to be taught from an early age. How many young schoolboys actually know who Ken Catchpole or Mark Loane were? John Thornett anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robbo, I did say that financial clout was the last thing that should determine the direction. It doesn&#8217;t follow that money is always right. Stanford proved that with Cricket.I am not well versed in the History of Rugby but unless you nourish talent at the grass roots you cant have a strong National Team. Culture,tradition and respect for the History of the game have to be taught from an early age. How many young schoolboys actually know who Ken Catchpole or Mark Loane were? John Thornett anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Robbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vinay - don&#039;t believe the hype. The Japanese Rugby Union has bugger all financial clout. 

For all this talk about them being the next rugby Super power the average Japanese couldn&#039;t differentiate Rugby from American football.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vinay &#8211; don&#8217;t believe the hype. The Japanese Rugby Union has bugger all financial clout. </p>
<p>For all this talk about them being the next rugby Super power the average Japanese couldn&#8217;t differentiate Rugby from American football.</p>
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		<title>By: pothale</title>
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		<dc:creator>pothale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark R, the fact that Woodcock and Jones are missing from their respective teams and there&#039;s two newbies standing in makes for an interesting scrum time,  No doubt  KO knows more than me on this aspect of the teams.  I hope to see some good running from both backlines, if their forwards are at relative parity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark R, the fact that Woodcock and Jones are missing from their respective teams and there&#8217;s two newbies standing in makes for an interesting scrum time,  No doubt  KO knows more than me on this aspect of the teams.  I hope to see some good running from both backlines, if their forwards are at relative parity.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you see the last BC game? The ref let everything in the scrums go, even if they collapsed and teh ball was at the back he just let it play on. Very very lax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you see the last BC game? The ref let everything in the scrums go, even if they collapsed and teh ball was at the back he just let it play on. Very very lax.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Kidd</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/05/its-game-on-for-nh-v-sh-rugby-bragging-rights/comment-page-5/#comment-240446</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Kidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee KO, another myth debunked. I had guessed that you were probably a southerner, maybe from the Bath area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee KO, another myth debunked. I had guessed that you were probably a southerner, maybe from the Bath area.</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for you, Terry. I&#039;m probably your typical English Londoner who takes things far too seriously and responds with whining and sarcasm. Bloody stereotypical genes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for you, Terry. I&#8217;m probably your typical English Londoner who takes things far too seriously and responds with whining and sarcasm. Bloody stereotypical genes.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkR</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Initeresting, liked Palu last Sat, he did very well when the Wallaby scrum got hammered.

 I was also interested to notice the difference in the reffing btwn the NZ SA game &amp; the NZ Oz game at scrum time. In the last SA game if the scrum went down but the ball was at the back the ref let it go, whereas the Ockers seem to get reff&#039;d a lot tighter at scrum time. I&#039;ll be interested to see if this remains the case for the NH tour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Initeresting, liked Palu last Sat, he did very well when the Wallaby scrum got hammered.</p>
<p> I was also interested to notice the difference in the reffing btwn the NZ SA game &amp; the NZ Oz game at scrum time. In the last SA game if the scrum went down but the ball was at the back the ref let it go, whereas the Ockers seem to get reff&#8217;d a lot tighter at scrum time. I&#8217;ll be interested to see if this remains the case for the NH tour.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Kidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Kidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MarkR .... Wallaby scrum to be slightly dominant with Moore at No2 but to be entirely dominant with TPN at No2 .... there is far more shove with Palu at 8 also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MarkR &#8230;. Wallaby scrum to be slightly dominant with Moore at No2 but to be entirely dominant with TPN at No2 &#8230;. there is far more shove with Palu at 8 also.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkR</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gents, congratulations, I just realised why I enjoy this forum so much. Facts &amp; wit with a hefty dose of irony &amp; a light sprinkling of boll**ks. 

Now back to the rugby questions - KO/Pothale, how do you see the Welsh team going against NZ ? Have they got the forward power to use that excellent backline of theirs ?

Also, anyone taking bets on the Wallaby/England forward battle..specifically the scrum ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gents, congratulations, I just realised why I enjoy this forum so much. Facts &amp; wit with a hefty dose of irony &amp; a light sprinkling of boll**ks. </p>
<p>Now back to the rugby questions &#8211; KO/Pothale, how do you see the Welsh team going against NZ ? Have they got the forward power to use that excellent backline of theirs ?</p>
<p>Also, anyone taking bets on the Wallaby/England forward battle..specifically the scrum ?</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Kidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Kidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol KO, don&#039;t worry mate if I think that you have made a butthead type comment I will let you know my opinion .... and the reverse applies also.

I am probably your typical antipodean convict descendant who does not take things too seriously unless they become personal .... I just ahppen to love rugby, the Wallabies and the Tahs in that order and I&#039;m willing to read, discuss and opine on any rugby subject. By the way, I have English, Welsh, Irish and German ancestors but am out and out Aussie and have visited NZ and SA but have yet to get to Argentina and I still play Golden Oldies.

I love the banter waged on this site by all us SH types, whether Wallas, Kiwis or Saffers and NH types whether Pom, Welsh or Irish .... nobility or peasant (included for Viscount Crouchback).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol KO, don&#8217;t worry mate if I think that you have made a butthead type comment I will let you know my opinion &#8230;. and the reverse applies also.</p>
<p>I am probably your typical antipodean convict descendant who does not take things too seriously unless they become personal &#8230;. I just ahppen to love rugby, the Wallabies and the Tahs in that order and I&#8217;m willing to read, discuss and opine on any rugby subject. By the way, I have English, Welsh, Irish and German ancestors but am out and out Aussie and have visited NZ and SA but have yet to get to Argentina and I still play Golden Oldies.</p>
<p>I love the banter waged on this site by all us SH types, whether Wallas, Kiwis or Saffers and NH types whether Pom, Welsh or Irish &#8230;. nobility or peasant (included for Viscount Crouchback).</p>
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		<title>By: OldManEmu</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldManEmu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilarious.........but stop the fight, its not fair. In a battle of wits Hermin/Hemjay/QC is seriously unarmed.

I wonder what Hemjay does for a living - care to share Hemjay, or should I say Hermin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilarious&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;but stop the fight, its not fair. In a battle of wits Hermin/Hemjay/QC is seriously unarmed.</p>
<p>I wonder what Hemjay does for a living &#8211; care to share Hemjay, or should I say Hermin?</p>
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