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		<title>By: pothale</title>
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		<dc:creator>pothale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry - your quote is incorrect.  O&#039;Driscoll -  in the euphoria after the match - said that Elsom was the best player he had ever played with.  Not against, in other words.

Still BO&#039;D has played with quite a few Irish and non-Irish players across Leinster, Ireland, Lions and Barbarians over the years. So it&#039;s a fine compliment, even if given in a rush of excitement and celebration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry &#8211; your quote is incorrect.  O&#8217;Driscoll &#8211;  in the euphoria after the match &#8211; said that Elsom was the best player he had ever played with.  Not against, in other words.</p>
<p>Still BO&#8217;D has played with quite a few Irish and non-Irish players across Leinster, Ireland, Lions and Barbarians over the years. So it&#8217;s a fine compliment, even if given in a rush of excitement and celebration.</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He won Australia a lot of games this time last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He won Australia a lot of games this time last year.</p>
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		<title>By: tarpo</title>
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		<dc:creator>tarpo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KO, surely you don&#039;t rate Gits as a kicker? he is absolutley tripe when it comes to kicking (&amp; general 5/8 play).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KO, surely you don&#8217;t rate Gits as a kicker? he is absolutley tripe when it comes to kicking (&amp; general 5/8 play).</p>
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		<title>By: AndyS</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is more accurate. SA kick and chase, NZ kick and chase (albeit perhaps a little less), Australia kick and, umm ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is more accurate. SA kick and chase, NZ kick and chase (albeit perhaps a little less), Australia kick and, umm &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aha ! At the end of all the bluster / banter 2 good posts on &quot;who will win&quot; from KO and Stillmissit ! Great thoughts lads, agree with you. As an ex Pom and now an Aussie (with kids to boot ....er, not literally) this is always a tough one for me to view. For my money I think the fact the W&#039;s are a team (Eng look like a collection of individuals who may, just may, gel into a team) will count and, whatever the weather, get Aus over the line comfortably in the 2nd half. Hard to see Eng starting well as a team methinks. That said, if it buckets down and the wind howls (what - in London ?) who knows if the beef of the Eng team may just do it ? As someone above said, hopefully compulsive viewing !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aha ! At the end of all the bluster / banter 2 good posts on &#8220;who will win&#8221; from KO and Stillmissit ! Great thoughts lads, agree with you. As an ex Pom and now an Aussie (with kids to boot &#8230;.er, not literally) this is always a tough one for me to view. For my money I think the fact the W&#8217;s are a team (Eng look like a collection of individuals who may, just may, gel into a team) will count and, whatever the weather, get Aus over the line comfortably in the 2nd half. Hard to see Eng starting well as a team methinks. That said, if it buckets down and the wind howls (what &#8211; in London ?) who knows if the beef of the Eng team may just do it ? As someone above said, hopefully compulsive viewing !</p>
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		<title>By: TommyM</title>
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		<dc:creator>TommyM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree that Cooper is an individual talent, but I don&#039;t think that means he&#039;s not a team player- his passing skills are all about creating opportunities for those around him (the fact that he also scores some phenomenal solo tries doesn&#039;t negate this)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree that Cooper is an individual talent, but I don&#8217;t think that means he&#8217;s not a team player- his passing skills are all about creating opportunities for those around him (the fact that he also scores some phenomenal solo tries doesn&#8217;t negate this)</p>
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		<title>By: TommyM</title>
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		<dc:creator>TommyM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I bet on them, you can be sure they&#039;ll lose. :S Maybe I should bet on England!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I bet on them, you can be sure they&#8217;ll lose. :S Maybe I should bet on England!</p>
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		<title>By: reds fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>reds fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carter has been announced in the team.</description>
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		<title>By: reds fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>reds fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wannabprop. when digby hits they stick.  he can put on a beauty. but his decision making can be found wanting at times.  it will be another thing to keep an eye out for.  i&#039;ll be particularly interested in the defensice performance of the two centres for obvious reasons.  this is a great chance for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wannabprop. when digby hits they stick.  he can put on a beauty. but his decision making can be found wanting at times.  it will be another thing to keep an eye out for.  i&#8217;ll be particularly interested in the defensice performance of the two centres for obvious reasons.  this is a great chance for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Stash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>England are surely going to kick for touch in the opening stanzas to see if Aus has addressed their line-out woes.

Ioane was one of the few that shone against the ABs - (while Cross has lost his gloss). England will be looking to run at this channel with the new centre pairing. 

What is the weather forecast? - if its wet, then surely England will be looking to keep it tight and battle it out with the forwards and at the breakdown where everyone perceives the Wallabies are wanting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>England are surely going to kick for touch in the opening stanzas to see if Aus has addressed their line-out woes.</p>
<p>Ioane was one of the few that shone against the ABs &#8211; (while Cross has lost his gloss). England will be looking to run at this channel with the new centre pairing. </p>
<p>What is the weather forecast? &#8211; if its wet, then surely England will be looking to keep it tight and battle it out with the forwards and at the breakdown where everyone perceives the Wallabies are wanting.</p>
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		<title>By: stillmissit</title>
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		<dc:creator>stillmissit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same to you Knives.</description>
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		<title>By: stillmissit</title>
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		<dc:creator>stillmissit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knives - I am worried by the fact that this team of ours seems to lack the ability/desire to up the speed of the game when it is required. We have wonderful young players but we are not seeing the skills and abilities on the field.

Mostly we seem to be stuck in 3rd gear with a turbo charged engine raring to go. The forwards look better on paper with Smith back at OS and Palu, Elsom will make for a great backrow. That is all very well but the set piece needs to be won and I have little faith in that part of our game.

Our kicking is poor to pathetic and our chasing is often non existent.

I was hoping for a big win against what I think will be our hardest game to win  but maybe not our hardest opponents. With my nervous twitch kicking in I would be happy with a one point win. My real guess is Australia by 15 points but I fear your 5 points call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knives &#8211; I am worried by the fact that this team of ours seems to lack the ability/desire to up the speed of the game when it is required. We have wonderful young players but we are not seeing the skills and abilities on the field.</p>
<p>Mostly we seem to be stuck in 3rd gear with a turbo charged engine raring to go. The forwards look better on paper with Smith back at OS and Palu, Elsom will make for a great backrow. That is all very well but the set piece needs to be won and I have little faith in that part of our game.</p>
<p>Our kicking is poor to pathetic and our chasing is often non existent.</p>
<p>I was hoping for a big win against what I think will be our hardest game to win  but maybe not our hardest opponents. With my nervous twitch kicking in I would be happy with a one point win. My real guess is Australia by 15 points but I fear your 5 points call.</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No he didn&#039;t boom that. Check again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No he didn&#8217;t boom that. Check again.</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw.. to all Australian fans - I may not be able to get access to a computer over the weekend so I wish you all the best of luck and hope the best team wins. Good game all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw.. to all Australian fans &#8211; I may not be able to get access to a computer over the weekend so I wish you all the best of luck and hope the best team wins. Good game all.</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All England v Australia banter and jokes aside, stillmissit? I honestly don&#039;t know from a personal perspective. I haven&#039;t read the responses from the UK journos but if you want a perspective then check out the websites of The Times, The Daily Mail and The Independent. No other papers cover rugby union in any detail. 

My take is this: Australia and England both need a win. However, I feel that Australia needs one more. They&#039;ve regressed this season and are in danger of falling off the 3N pace. England improved from a horrible start last season and showed greater direction, tactical nous and understanding during the 6N. Despite being ranked 7th they thrashed what was basically an Argentina 1st xv with their 2nd/3rd string team in the summer, and only lost by 2 points in Argentina. Thus it is a sustainable argument that England can overcome those positioned directly above it. Also, both Ireland and Wales listed England as their toughest opponents of the 6N. Therefore, I believe that SA and NZ currently exist on a separate plane and England, Argentina, Ireland, Wales and Australia are all fighting for praise. In that context the 7th place team must have more room for manouevre/failure than a 3rd place team which has just had a tough warm up game and months in camp.

As a fan I want to see the scrum go well, the pack to secure quick ball, the locks to avoid carrying, the lineout to be dominant, the kicking to be accurate, the tackling and carrying to be agressive, the passing to be accurate and the team to show confidence and no little discipline. Not much then! Beyond that I think that instead of being defensive and scared of copping a beating the absence of so many players will allow England a golden opportunity to improve their squad depth. Players like Hartley, Wilson, Croft, Care, Geraghty, Hipkiss and Monye have a great chance to stake long-term claims as necessities in the white jersey. 

Ultimately I think the game will be close. Both midfields are new and potentially dynamic, but the Australian back three has a more settled look about it. This game should be close but with Wilkinson at 10 I feel that much more secure as a fan than the previous AI axis of Cipriani and Flutey, simply due to the experience of Wilkinson. With both packs having a point to prove, reliable players/ &#039;legends&#039; at 10 and an exciting back division I repeat  - this game should be close. I&#039;m going for an England win by 5. What do you think, stillmissit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All England v Australia banter and jokes aside, stillmissit? I honestly don&#8217;t know from a personal perspective. I haven&#8217;t read the responses from the UK journos but if you want a perspective then check out the websites of The Times, The Daily Mail and The Independent. No other papers cover rugby union in any detail. </p>
<p>My take is this: Australia and England both need a win. However, I feel that Australia needs one more. They&#8217;ve regressed this season and are in danger of falling off the 3N pace. England improved from a horrible start last season and showed greater direction, tactical nous and understanding during the 6N. Despite being ranked 7th they thrashed what was basically an Argentina 1st xv with their 2nd/3rd string team in the summer, and only lost by 2 points in Argentina. Thus it is a sustainable argument that England can overcome those positioned directly above it. Also, both Ireland and Wales listed England as their toughest opponents of the 6N. Therefore, I believe that SA and NZ currently exist on a separate plane and England, Argentina, Ireland, Wales and Australia are all fighting for praise. In that context the 7th place team must have more room for manouevre/failure than a 3rd place team which has just had a tough warm up game and months in camp.</p>
<p>As a fan I want to see the scrum go well, the pack to secure quick ball, the locks to avoid carrying, the lineout to be dominant, the kicking to be accurate, the tackling and carrying to be agressive, the passing to be accurate and the team to show confidence and no little discipline. Not much then! Beyond that I think that instead of being defensive and scared of copping a beating the absence of so many players will allow England a golden opportunity to improve their squad depth. Players like Hartley, Wilson, Croft, Care, Geraghty, Hipkiss and Monye have a great chance to stake long-term claims as necessities in the white jersey. </p>
<p>Ultimately I think the game will be close. Both midfields are new and potentially dynamic, but the Australian back three has a more settled look about it. This game should be close but with Wilkinson at 10 I feel that much more secure as a fan than the previous AI axis of Cipriani and Flutey, simply due to the experience of Wilkinson. With both packs having a point to prove, reliable players/ &#8216;legends&#8217; at 10 and an exciting back division I repeat  &#8211; this game should be close. I&#8217;m going for an England win by 5. What do you think, stillmissit?</p>
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		<title>By: OldManEmu</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldManEmu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fastidiously avoid reading Greg Growden, but had no choice on the plane this morning; it was either read the sports pages or listen to the drone next to me about the water crisis facing regional Australia (duh, we live in a desert) - Growden writes today &quot;Cross has reason to feel miffed that he has been demoted to the reserves bench, as he did not get many attacking chances in Tokyo, and performed well against Gloucester&quot;.

Maybe GG and the dude I was sitting next to on the plane share a brain and whoever gets up first for the day gets to use it for the next 24 hours.

It may well be said that Cross got limited opportunities with the ball in Tokyo but the bloke cannot defend at 13 at the level - nuff said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fastidiously avoid reading Greg Growden, but had no choice on the plane this morning; it was either read the sports pages or listen to the drone next to me about the water crisis facing regional Australia (duh, we live in a desert) &#8211; Growden writes today &#8220;Cross has reason to feel miffed that he has been demoted to the reserves bench, as he did not get many attacking chances in Tokyo, and performed well against Gloucester&#8221;.</p>
<p>Maybe GG and the dude I was sitting next to on the plane share a brain and whoever gets up first for the day gets to use it for the next 24 hours.</p>
<p>It may well be said that Cross got limited opportunities with the ball in Tokyo but the bloke cannot defend at 13 at the level &#8211; nuff said.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Rocky Elsom is the best rugby player in the world,&quot; O&#039;Driscoll boomed when interviewed after the match (the HC final).

As to try scoring, I&#039;d say:
- Australia have been crap for some time now at scoring tries.
- But everyone is and, very regretably, when teams do open up and try and play a more running and attacking game they invariably come 2nd against the conservative/up the jumper style.  Examples are NZ in SA this yearand England v Aus last year.  The very sad fact is that if you want to win big test matches, play conservatively and I reckon we&#039;ll see more rolling maul than backline flash on the weekend from the Poms.  Credit to Engalnd if we don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rocky Elsom is the best rugby player in the world,&#8221; O&#8217;Driscoll boomed when interviewed after the match (the HC final).</p>
<p>As to try scoring, I&#8217;d say:<br />
- Australia have been crap for some time now at scoring tries.<br />
- But everyone is and, very regretably, when teams do open up and try and play a more running and attacking game they invariably come 2nd against the conservative/up the jumper style.  Examples are NZ in SA this yearand England v Aus last year.  The very sad fact is that if you want to win big test matches, play conservatively and I reckon we&#8217;ll see more rolling maul than backline flash on the weekend from the Poms.  Credit to Engalnd if we don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Pantio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Pantio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would you ask KO?</description>
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		<title>By: wannabprop</title>
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		<dc:creator>wannabprop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t seen much of Ioane - what&#039;s his defense like? From memory QLD have let in a few lately...  I&#039;d be more concerned about an inexperienced centre pairing defensively.  Very happy to see Deans try something different, just not sure now (first up test against the &#039;Home&#039; Unions) is the time to do it.  Also very very happy to see O&#039;Conner benched (don&#039;t think he should be in the 22).  Gonna be interesting innit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t seen much of Ioane &#8211; what&#8217;s his defense like? From memory QLD have let in a few lately&#8230;  I&#8217;d be more concerned about an inexperienced centre pairing defensively.  Very happy to see Deans try something different, just not sure now (first up test against the &#8216;Home&#8217; Unions) is the time to do it.  Also very very happy to see O&#8217;Conner benched (don&#8217;t think he should be in the 22).  Gonna be interesting innit.</p>
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		<title>By: stillmissit</title>
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		<dc:creator>stillmissit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knives - what is the feeling like in the UK are the press giving them no chance? What do you reckon he score will be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knives &#8211; what is the feeling like in the UK are the press giving them no chance? What do you reckon he score will be?</p>
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		<title>By: stillmissit</title>
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		<dc:creator>stillmissit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am more than a bit worried about this game. Happy with our selections particularly the forwards BUT!

Teams like this England team will go one of two ways. It will hopefully fold under in the second half with there selection weaknesses exposed or they&#039;ll galvanise against the obvious weaknesses and drag out a huge performance to bring us down. This is what happened in the RWC game when Tuquiri winked at the camera (wanker) and the Australians looked like they were heading to the beach as nobody gave the Pommies a chance.

Compulsive viewing and the most important game of the tour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am more than a bit worried about this game. Happy with our selections particularly the forwards BUT!</p>
<p>Teams like this England team will go one of two ways. It will hopefully fold under in the second half with there selection weaknesses exposed or they&#8217;ll galvanise against the obvious weaknesses and drag out a huge performance to bring us down. This is what happened in the RWC game when Tuquiri winked at the camera (wanker) and the Australians looked like they were heading to the beach as nobody gave the Pommies a chance.</p>
<p>Compulsive viewing and the most important game of the tour.</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry, firstly go to Scrum.com and find out how many tries England has scored since Johnson took over, and secondly you are incorrectly referring to a Brian O&#039;Driscoll quote where he stated that Leinster would not have won the WC without Elsom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry, firstly go to Scrum.com and find out how many tries England has scored since Johnson took over, and secondly you are incorrectly referring to a Brian O&#8217;Driscoll quote where he stated that Leinster would not have won the WC without Elsom.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find confusing is with all this talk of moving Git&#039;s back to 12, why hasn&#039;t RD taken this oppertunity to do so with the injury to Barnes? Anyway, maybe that&#039;s why hes the coach and Im not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find confusing is with all this talk of moving Git&#8217;s back to 12, why hasn&#8217;t RD taken this oppertunity to do so with the injury to Barnes? Anyway, maybe that&#8217;s why hes the coach and Im not.</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/06/deans-selects-untried-centre-pairing-for-england-showdown/comment-page-1/#comment-240368</link>
		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloody hell. I&#039;m taken aback by such a statement. Are you being sarcastic, Dean?</description>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/06/deans-selects-untried-centre-pairing-for-england-showdown/comment-page-1/#comment-240366</link>
		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>25 today, Pothale. Thank you for your offerings. I took the day off work, had a sausage sandwich and pint of Guinness for breakfast, dozed in bed for an hour whilst reading, took in &#039;Fantastic Mr Fox&#039; at the cinema with my gf (It&#039;s very good, btw. Very nostalgic. Tender even.), had dinner with my parents and then returned to my gf&#039;s house for her sister&#039;s bf&#039;s birthday (today). An England, Spurs, David Haye and Millwall win will be a nice bonus. I&#039;m off to Germany for the rumble. &quot;Who do you think you are kidding, Mr Hitler?...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>25 today, Pothale. Thank you for your offerings. I took the day off work, had a sausage sandwich and pint of Guinness for breakfast, dozed in bed for an hour whilst reading, took in &#8216;Fantastic Mr Fox&#8217; at the cinema with my gf (It&#8217;s very good, btw. Very nostalgic. Tender even.), had dinner with my parents and then returned to my gf&#8217;s house for her sister&#8217;s bf&#8217;s birthday (today). An England, Spurs, David Haye and Millwall win will be a nice bonus. I&#8217;m off to Germany for the rumble. &#8220;Who do you think you are kidding, Mr Hitler?&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy with this selection, particuarly Smith back at 7 and IF they can get something close to parity in the lineouts and attack the breakdown effectively we are a good chance to score some tries.  However also likely that the ref (who is it?) will be blowing penalties most of the afternoon ... teams are coached to do this (infringe at the breakdown) rather than let the Oppo build continuity
Agree Dean Pantio, big weakness in defence at 10/12 znd I&#039;d suggest 13 ....  Digby is a bit suspect in that very difficult defensive position, although hopefully he has cured himself of that habit of going high and spear tackling, we don&#039;t want to be playing a man down.  Not sure whether the Poms are good enough to exploit this however ... no doubt we will see that most original and exciting of attacking weapons, the rolling maul, being the preferred attack weapon of a Martin Johnson coached XV (and the pommy forward coach is from the same club) 
My only question is why on earth wasn&#039;t this backline selected last week instead of the proven and known failures/positional errors of JOC at 15, AAC at 12, Cross at 13? Now we are once again playing a new combination in a test, that means more than last week&#039;s exhibition match.
Anyway as always, it will be won up front.  Time for Palu and the 2 seond-rowers to stand up!  I thought Elsom looked to be returning to his best form last week and he will feel comfortable back in the British Isles where, according to the Irish captain Pothale, he was the best player in the world earlier this year (for the record I disagree with that, McCaw or Matfield would be the best in my book)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy with this selection, particuarly Smith back at 7 and IF they can get something close to parity in the lineouts and attack the breakdown effectively we are a good chance to score some tries.  However also likely that the ref (who is it?) will be blowing penalties most of the afternoon &#8230; teams are coached to do this (infringe at the breakdown) rather than let the Oppo build continuity<br />
Agree Dean Pantio, big weakness in defence at 10/12 znd I&#8217;d suggest 13 &#8230;.  Digby is a bit suspect in that very difficult defensive position, although hopefully he has cured himself of that habit of going high and spear tackling, we don&#8217;t want to be playing a man down.  Not sure whether the Poms are good enough to exploit this however &#8230; no doubt we will see that most original and exciting of attacking weapons, the rolling maul, being the preferred attack weapon of a Martin Johnson coached XV (and the pommy forward coach is from the same club)<br />
My only question is why on earth wasn&#8217;t this backline selected last week instead of the proven and known failures/positional errors of JOC at 15, AAC at 12, Cross at 13? Now we are once again playing a new combination in a test, that means more than last week&#8217;s exhibition match.<br />
Anyway as always, it will be won up front.  Time for Palu and the 2 seond-rowers to stand up!  I thought Elsom looked to be returning to his best form last week and he will feel comfortable back in the British Isles where, according to the Irish captain Pothale, he was the best player in the world earlier this year (for the record I disagree with that, McCaw or Matfield would be the best in my book)</p>
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		<title>By: Go_the_Wannabe's</title>
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		<dc:creator>Go_the_Wannabe's</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG........is Dingo actually reading our blogs???? How long have all us Roarers been asking for 2 Dads to be moved to 15? (well, us sensible Roarers anyway). He&#039;ll get more attacking opportunities there than 13, mark my words.

Here&#039;s another headline......how long into the game will it be before Gits and Cooper swap at 10???? Not long, I&#039;m tipping. At last, someone is seeing the sense in this.

And yes......another tip came true......Ioane at 13! There is too much to bear all in one test.

Well, we can&#039;t complain now......at last some common sense selections.

Just need to stick with this basic combination now.......even if we lose.

Only thing is I don&#039;t believe Mitchell deserves his wing spot.......really he&#039;s done nothing all year to deserve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG&#8230;&#8230;..is Dingo actually reading our blogs???? How long have all us Roarers been asking for 2 Dads to be moved to 15? (well, us sensible Roarers anyway). He&#8217;ll get more attacking opportunities there than 13, mark my words.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another headline&#8230;&#8230;how long into the game will it be before Gits and Cooper swap at 10???? Not long, I&#8217;m tipping. At last, someone is seeing the sense in this.</p>
<p>And yes&#8230;&#8230;another tip came true&#8230;&#8230;Ioane at 13! There is too much to bear all in one test.</p>
<p>Well, we can&#8217;t complain now&#8230;&#8230;at last some common sense selections.</p>
<p>Just need to stick with this basic combination now&#8230;&#8230;.even if we lose.</p>
<p>Only thing is I don&#8217;t believe Mitchell deserves his wing spot&#8230;&#8230;.really he&#8217;s done nothing all year to deserve it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Pantio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Pantio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That 10-12 channel looks decidedly weak defensively.</description>
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		<title>By: Dean Pantio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Pantio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d take &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/3037719/Dan-Carter-good-to-go&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Carter&#039;s word&lt;/a&gt; over Gatland&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d take <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/3037719/Dan-Carter-good-to-go" rel="nofollow">Carter&#8217;s word</a> over Gatland&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: The Link</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Link</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good bold move from Robbie, however it could be turnstiles in defence between 10 12 and 13.</description>
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