All Blacks superstar Carter cited over Roberts tackle
By AFP, 9 Nov 2009 AFP is a Roar Pro
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New Zealand fly-half Dan Carter has been cited for a dangerous tackle on Wales scrum-half Martin Roberts during Saturday’s Test at Cardiff’s Millennium Stadium.
Carter was jeered off the pitch after the head-high tackle, which incensed Wales coach Warren Gatland, and will face a disciplinary hearing in Milan, where the New Zealand squad are preparing for next weekend’s clash against Italy.
He is due to appear before International Rugby Board-appointed judicial officer Jeff Blackett, who is also the Rugby Football Union’s disciplinary chief.
The 27-year-old, who was not yellow-carded for the offence by match referee Craig Joubert, could receive a minimum one-week ban.
Carter, who kicked 14 points during the All Blacks’ 19-12 victory, was cited by Australian match commissioner Scott Nowland.
He is the third All Blacks player to be cited in a week, following one-week suspensions dished out to wing Sitiveni Sivivatu and prop Tony Woodcock for foul play during the victory over Australia in Tokyo.
Roberts, who had come on as a replacement, admitted Carter had apologised for the tackle.
“Looking at the replay it did look quite high. He did apologise to me. He said ‘sorry for the tackle’ after the game,” he said.
“Things like that happen in games, and you just have to take it on the chin. It looked bad, but I was fine.
“Everyone has got their views and opinions, but as a player you just get on with it. The referee makes decisions.”
Gatland, though, had no doubt Carter should have been yellow-carded.
“It was a head-high tackle,” he said. “A guy makes a break in the 22, and if that had happened at the other end then it would have been a penalty and a yellow card.
“All the officials missed it, so we are pretty disappointed with that.”
All Blacks centre Conrad Smith conceded New Zealand’s general discipline was below the required standard.
“One of the worrying things was that our discipline still wasn’t good enough,” he said.
“We gave away far too many penalties and we are letting teams into games.
“I think our defence is really good, and the main way teams are making metres against us is through penalties. There were a lot of silly penalties conceded.”
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mcxd said | November 9th 2009 @ 8:08am | Report comment
A penalty at worst. Didnt deserve a yellow let alone a citing. Roberts is quite short and was falling. If hes suspended it would be unjust. And if so the ABS should then wear armbands and headbands with “Justice” written on them. ok ..only joking ..What ? its been done before ? who would do that ?
Jerry said | November 9th 2009 @ 8:14am | Report comment
The whole citing process is broken – technically, a player is only supposed to be cited for an offence that would be a red card. Could you really say the Carter tackle was a red? Borderline yellow, maybe.
Hopefully the worst he’ll get will be a week’s suspension as he probably wasn’t gonna play against Italy anyway.
I do like Roberts quote – “take it on the chin” indeed.
Gatland is a prize twat.
Mungehead said | November 9th 2009 @ 8:22am | Report comment
I agree with the citing, booting someone in the head is not acceptable…
Jerry said | November 9th 2009 @ 8:25am | Report comment
Yeah, I’d be pretty annoyed if someone wasn’t cited for a reckless kick that injured someone.
MarkR said | November 9th 2009 @ 8:33am | Report comment
Guys – was the Welsh 10 (I think it was him) who played footy with Cowans neck cited ? great game BTW, Wales really have a good team.
Gary Little said | November 9th 2009 @ 11:39am | Report comment
It was the Welsh 10 but he kicked Brendon in the head & nobody wants to talk about that in the Press. Colin Meads got sent off in 1967 for that.
pothale said | November 9th 2009 @ 9:39am | Report comment
“A penalty at worst. Didn’t deserve a yellow let alone a citing. Roberts is quite short and was falling.”
Roberts was falling? Nonsense. Have a look at the clip here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol00OgqsIFU
Roberts receives the ball from a pass and is away past Muliana. Carter comes in from his right and with a swinging right arm clocks him one head high, knocking Roberts head back with the impact and his left then comes round Roberts body.
It’s certainly a penalty there and then. No question. Bad miss by the ref and assistants. I don’t know enough about application of a yellow card, but it looked a lazy tackle by Carter. I’ve seen yellows handed out for less in terms of deliberate knock-ons, etc.
I wasn’t aware that a citing could only be applied if the offence merited a red card. There’s been plenty of high tackles happen and penalties and yellow cards handed out. Haven’t seen a red before.
cinematic said | November 9th 2009 @ 9:57am | Report comment
Lazy tackle Pothale? There was nothing lazy about that tackle. Carter absolutely smashed the little fella and the Welsh play totally broke down. It was a fantastic tackle in timing and application, possibly an inch too high.
If the citing system’s there for that then they better start hiring citing commissioners, cause there’ll be a citing a minute.
Gatland demonstrated in one press conference why the NZRU weren’t interested in him.
pothale said | November 9th 2009 @ 11:10am | Report comment
Possibly an inch too high? Get some specs, Cinematic.
By lazy tackle, I mean he was lazy in its application by going in too high, and leading with his swinging right arm. It was an illegal tackle and dangerous. There’s too many of them going on in the game.
Carter isn’t beyond reproach just cos he’s the golden boy of the ABs.
Citing is there to catch things that were illegal or deemed dangerous play. It has to be there or else players will be allowed get away with a lot more cheap shots.
Jerry said | November 9th 2009 @ 12:32pm | Report comment
The swinging arm in that situation is meant to hit the ball to dislodge it. It’s not lazy, just poor executed.
MarkR said | November 9th 2009 @ 12:54pm | Report comment
Pothale, I agree, while a lot of these incidents go unpunished Carters tackle was high & he’s been caught & will have to present his reasons to teh rugby version of court. The Welsh vitriol would have made it hard to ignore. What will make the ABs feel suitably agrieved is if the Welsh 10 gets away with using Leonards neck as a kicking tee, THAT was a red card.
The citing process is far from perfect, but it’s better than not having it. If I was a Bok fan I’d be having a quiet chuckle about now.
Matt said | November 9th 2009 @ 9:55am | Report comment
Has pothale has said, there have been plenty of high tackles happen in matches.
But I can’t personally recall any match bans because of a high tackles? Is it common for high tackles to be cited, and if so is the player in question usually given a ban? Or is the citing more because there was no punishment at the time, and should the citing punishment be larger because the on-field punishment never came?
PastHisBest said | November 9th 2009 @ 9:58am | Report comment
Well it’s foul play and if it’s not picked up at the time, or on field punishment deemed insufficient then that match reviewer always has the option to cite.
Gary Little said | November 9th 2009 @ 11:30am | Report comment
Colin Meads got sent off the field in 67 for a kick to the head. Brendon was kicked in the head but the press only seem interested when an All Black is at fault. Replay after replay but the kick to the head was not seen to many times ha
. The All Blacks are the ones that take it on the chin time & time again !!!. The press should look at all the things that happen in a game to both sides.
Going for a surf said | November 9th 2009 @ 12:31pm | Report comment
Where was Cater comming from, I didnt see the game, just you tube link, Strange angle, was he off side ? Would that be the reason Gatlands gone off. Killed the momentum,Worth a penalty nothing more, Carter isn’t a dirty player.
Jerry said | November 9th 2009 @ 1:11pm | Report comment
It wasn’t offside, it was general play. The reason Carter was coming from that angle is that the previous ruck was in the centre of the pitch and he’d been defending the other side. After the initial break down the left wing, the ball was passed infield and Roberts stepped further infield.
Going for a surf said | November 10th 2009 @ 8:03am | Report comment
Thanks Jerry
The angle Carter came from really surprised the runner.
I don’t think Carter gets enough recognition for his defence sometimes