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November 10th 2009 @ 2:22am
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Pumas ready to tame England
The shift in mentality in Argentinian rugby will see the Pumas head to Twickenham on Saturday more in expectation than hope as they look to add to beleaguered England’s woes.
Argentina confirmed their position as a major force in international rugby union by finishing third at the 2007 World Cup.
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were we trying to bully union to death when they were boring people to death ( ok stop now ifs sokka’s so boring why is it so...
Mr cheese said | November 10th 2009 @ 4:47am | Report comment
Les Anglais vont s’imposer.
England will win this one by 25 points.
Knives Out said | November 10th 2009 @ 7:51am | Report comment
That’s a big call. I’m intrigued. England beat a Hernandez driven Argentina by 22 points at Old Trafford so perhaps a big win is not entirely unreasonable?
Justin said | November 10th 2009 @ 3:11pm | Report comment
If that England side can score 25 points then Argentina have really slipped.
Knives Out said | November 10th 2009 @ 9:27pm | Report comment
England scored 22 points against their 1st xv in Argentina and 37 in England during the 2 game series this summer. However, even some of the 2nd teamers from that series are missing, so we shall see. If Johnson makes the appropriate changes at 9 and 15 then I think England has a chance of a solid victory. That said, better work must be done up front to make a good score a possibility.
alan nicolea said | November 10th 2009 @ 3:34pm | Report comment
England are deserved favourites for this clash, but one hopes the Pumas once again pull another cat out of the bag in a ground that arguably layed the foundations for their 2007 World Cup success. Won’t be easy though. At least the side will give it their all and in the end, that is what counts.
Parisien said | November 11th 2009 @ 9:57am | Report comment
I know England have their injury list, but Argentina missing Hernandez and Contepomi is pretty serious. I give England a small advantage. I will be very interested to see the tactics employed by Argentina, the degree and style of kicking, the counter-attacking … what is the team lineup?
Rowdy said | November 12th 2009 @ 2:24am | Report comment
For a few years now I’ve been hoping the opposition (except the Wallabies, of course) hammer us, so some changes will be forced on the England selectors and/or coaching staff. This has proved a waste of time, however, as even the soundest thrshings just give rise to the usual Must learn lessons, Areas for improvement, We’re rebuilding, Lots of injuries, Take some positives claptrap and then Rob Bl**dy Andrew produces a report 6 months later exonerating himself from all blame and we stumble on the next embarrassent.
So maybe this time I’ll cheer for us – I certainly hope Geraghty, Hodgson, Hartley, Croft, Haskell play blinders so we don’t see the likes of Mears, Ellis, Noon and Tindall looming back, but otherwise, I’m a bit meh, really.
Knives Out said | November 12th 2009 @ 3:53am | Report comment
I hope that Tindall comes back asap. He allowed England to play the way they did during the 6N.
Rowdy said | November 13th 2009 @ 2:06am | Report comment
Disagree, KO. Tindall’s default process is to locate the nearest oppo player and run into him, dying with the ball. If we have to have a bossher at 13, and I don’t agree that we should, then rather someone like Hipkiss, who’s possibly the nearest we’ve got to Tindall ca. 2003-3. In any case, I’d prefer a 13 who looks for the gaps between the players.
Knives Out said | November 13th 2009 @ 2:28am | Report comment
Every time England has looked good over the past few seasons Tindall has been involved. Judging by last week Hipkiss isn’t powerful enough for test rugby. Tindall always takes stopping which creates quick ball and momentum. The same applies to Gloucester. He is experienced, provides leadership and also size.