Comments on: Trip to Oman a litmus test for Socceroos

By: The Bear

The Bear — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:04:40 +0000

i lol man.

By: AndyRoo

AndyRoo — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:41:41 +0000

I was thinking more in regards to the 2014 campaign. As that seemed to be what Freud was alluding too becasue there will be a large amount of retirements after South Africa.
Those are pretty much my thoughts, I have never watched Bolton Reserves play but Bolton fans say Mooy was doing all right in their reserves (which was good enough for the Oman keeper).

Last time I questioned Vladimir’s assertion that Cahill was a bob to box midfielder I was told I have an extra chromosone so I decided not to bother anymore.

By: Football_Wunderkind

Football_Wunderkind — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:20:45 +0000

i meant to say that I am fairly sure Australia are not travelling to Manama, which Mike stated.

Besides that… I am really hanging out for Harry Kewell to make this World Cup coming up and more relevantly this upcoming match his own. Sigh… if only Harry had scored some crackers for Australia like he did for Leeds/Liverpool and even lately for Galatasaray. … and I do mean genuine crackers. I am stoked he scored the goal against Croatia in WC06 but I can’t think of any real Harry Kewell club style cracking goals that he has scored for Australia. I am really hoping he makes up for it at this World Cup and gets warmed up for it starting in 3 days time. Bresciano, Cahill, Carney, Chipperfield, Sterjovski and even Emerton have replicated excellent club goals at international level. For what ever reason… Harry hasn’t and he is showing form enough lately to suggest he might.

By: dasilva

dasilva — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:32:54 +0000

Milligan played 21 games for Shanghai and from reports played well. Pim believes he looks a completely different player in Shanghai then the player he saw in Newcastle.

Doing well in the CSL is an advantage over the A-league as the CSL season will go through the World Cup. The a-league will have a long break between the end of season and the world cup.

Therefore Milligan has got a good chance of making the world cup.

Mooy, well the huge stride that Andyroo was probably referring to is most likely the performance for the young socceroos. Probably not enough to make the squad unless he somehow breaks into the first team.

By: ABCDEFG

ABCDEFG — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:31:55 +0000

I’m fine with both Josh and Scott being out. I want to see who else can play the role of lone striker, Scott’s got quality but doesn’t score, Josh can get goals but his technical ability is average.

By: whiskeymac

whiskeymac — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:51:02 +0000

ah yeah a bit obscure….post south africa he might be one of those players… and with a name like that who is to argue?

By: midfield general

midfield general — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:27:40 +0000

Lighten up Vladimir

By: Ben of Phnom Penh

Ben of Phnom Penh — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:39:15 +0000

Que?

By: midfield general

midfield general — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:17:16 +0000

You mean Oar? I thought he’s been playing just about every game, except when he was at u-19 WC….I don’t know why I bothered to bring it up, it ain’t gonna happen. But it will be nice to see some bolter light up the socceroos at the WC. Maybe Ruka, Vidosic.

By: whiskeymac

whiskeymac — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:05:22 +0000

maybe maybe not. its a subjective view but aberdeen, hearts etc probably arent too bad but generally there’s no disagreement that the smaller teams in the SPL arent much good (motherwell etc)(some foreign managers still only rate HAlLat erdevisie 2 level, and players like burns still think lower league greek footy is better).

On the plus side for the SPL they get euro games so that for example last seasons Celtic v Man Utd and AC milan were good games which maybe a HAL team might not be able to replicate…. and even if they tend to struggle in the euro comps the exposure of playing at the level that Rangers and Celtic play, which is measurable to EPL standard, i would think, is so much higher than anything on offer at the HAL.

By: whiskeymac

whiskeymac — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:53:44 +0000

wow, caps lock! you must be really passionate (or have fat fingers and hit it by mistake). Am not endorsing his inclusion just pointing out that in the last fortnight, with the exception of harry and maccas recent brace, he has had the most impressive club football out of his peers. whether or not he can translate that onto the international arena has yet to be proven, just like macca (and in some respects viduka who had a woeful goal average for a striker but who was invaluable in holding/ setting up).

By: vladimir

vladimir — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:22:21 +0000

the spl is a very weak competition dominated by two teams… the rest of the teams would be barely up to HAL standard… i doubt mcdonald would score as freely if he was playing in a more even competition like the HAL without so many quality teammates and so many weak opposition defenders…

By: vladimir

vladimir — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:14:45 +0000

empty words indeed… evade the question… you probably don’t even know who they play for…

By: AndyRoo

AndyRoo — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:12:03 +0000

Last time I responded to you Vladimir it was a waste of time. I am not ever going to make that mistake again.

By: vladimir

vladimir — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:08:32 +0000

“He will be better acclimatised in a cultural sense ..” what does that mean? has he been studying omani theatre?

By: whiskeymac

whiskeymac — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:06:57 +0000

who is standing in his way at club level though?

By: vladimir

vladimir — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:05:01 +0000

pim wont be there after the world cup… he’ll be at some cashed up asian club until the next world cup comes around when he’ll reap in the cash from some cashed up asian nation… or maybe belgium will give him a gig…

By: whiskeymac

whiskeymac — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:03:46 +0000

where does milion bulshire play?

By: vladimir

vladimir — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:02:33 +0000

what have mooy or milligan done recently?

By: Ben of Phnom Penh

Ben of Phnom Penh — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:32:16 +0000

Post South Africa my main concerns are going forward. At the moment we have had a number of younger players come through the defensive and controlling midfield ranks that can do the job who will be available for the Asia Cup and have had time in camp or on the park (Milligan, Williams, Kisnorbo, Carney, Spiranovic, Jedinak, Valeri) however our younger attacking midfield ranks haven’t been afforded the same opportunity due to the depth we currently have. This may prove to be problematic post-South Africa.

By: Mike Tuckerman

Mike Tuckerman — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:57:44 +0000

Right you are, Wunderkind.

I had Bahrain on the brain after our victory in Manama in 2006.

By: Ben of Phnom Penh

Ben of Phnom Penh — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:55:06 +0000

Djite is back in the first team having found himself on the outer with a new coach coming in whilst he was injured. He will be better acclimatised in a cultural sense and hence shouldn’t take as long to find his comfort zone in Muscat.

The better question is why Brosque is coming in rather than Troisi who could also offer some options on the left if Kewell plays a more central role.

It is a good point in relation to Holman, Mike. He will be a very important player for the Socceroos post 2010 and may play a key role in South Africa. I know it pains people to hear this however I’m hoping that he will prove the non-believers wrong.

By: Ben of Phnom Penh

Ben of Phnom Penh — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:47:27 +0000

It would be a bit quiet in Manama since the Bahrainis will be in Wellington at the time

By: midfield general

midfield general — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:43:32 +0000

I don’t think we have the luxury of waiting until likes of Ruka is playing regular club games until he’s picked for NT. We really don’t have anyone who can frighten the opposition with pace especially in the last 20 minutes of the game. Brosque? if Pim is going to pick likes of him and Sterjovski from A league then why not someone like Tommy Oar? Quick, skilful and seemingly fearless. He’s a better proposition than these two, in my opinion. Not bloody likely though.

By: John

John — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:28:34 +0000

Really he is? Then i think you should watch this:

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE SOCCEROOS GAME WITH HOLMAN:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1mvlNK3aG8

By: whiskeymac

whiskeymac — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:27:20 +0000

Ruky still needs more game time but is certainly a cause celebre for us armchair coaches. Djite isa bigger burly player,Ruky is a speedster – i guess in Pims formation he wants soeone up front who can hold onto the ball/ break through. but if that’s the case I dont quite understand brosques inclusion

By: Mackey

Mackey — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:33:59 +0000

I don’t know how Djite makes it into the squad while Rukavytsya is left out. One is not getting any game time at all whilst one is scoring goals in the KNVB Cup for a team sitting atop of the Eredivisie. Does not compute.

By: AndyRoo

AndyRoo — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:32:00 +0000

We don’t have another Kewell or Viduka, but you can’t expect that.

9 months ago the cupboard looked bare but since then Mooy, Vidosic, Rhys Williams and Milligan have made big strides and it doesn’t look so bad. Next campaign will be a lot tougher though.

We had our goldne generation and were in the easier group this time around.

By: whiskeymac

whiskeymac — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:10:24 +0000

and yet holman scored a good goal against Feyenord on the weekend…. as well as starting for AZ against Arsenal in the champs league. personally i wld rather see Scott Mc in the team ( i know its a different position) if we are talking about thesquads make up but Holman is still having a good solid season in Europe when a lot of our players/ stars aren’t.

By: whiskeymac

whiskeymac — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:07:22 +0000

brosque has set the HAl alight, with 2 goals and assists… McDonald is 2ndhighest scorer in SPL… interesting. seeing brosque isnt a target man, and plays well with 2 up fornt… does this mean our Pim has a plan B? nah… but good to see Lowry get a call up again. hopefully he gets some game time.
we desperately need to win this game – the more tournaments we get into the better for the upcoming roos development, the ratings and exposure. not quite the same as farina missing out on confed club, but wld still be a disaster if we dont qualify for our regional finals…