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	<title>Comments on: Rusty Ireland, easybeat Wallabies: who&#8217;ll win?</title>
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		<title>By: pothale</title>
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		<dc:creator>pothale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all of the goodwill and general cheer around this match, there seemed to be little hard analysis amongst Irish media of the game against Australia.  Lots of sideline cheering and friendly faces have greeted the Australian squad led by Elsom.

Finally today, a guy called Liam Toland, who I have a lot of time for as an analyst, published the following piece:
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2009/1113/1224258724517.html

Toland has the distinction of being one of the few players to have crossed the divide between warring provinces Munster and Leinster.

He started out as flanker with Munster and then moved to Leisnter, captaining them on his debut match and playing 36 matches for them including Heineken Cup matches.

An army man, he now is a regular analyst for Setanta.

His assessment of the breakdown, and the need to target the jackal (first opposition defender to the ball) is nicely done, and points up the challenge for Ireland on Sunday.  Not amongst the forwards, but in the backline.

O&#039;Driscoll and Darcy are the consummate jackals, with both of them superb at getting in the tackle and being first on the ball.  The inclusion of Wallace at 12 weakens this partnership in his view, and hands some advatnage to Q Cooper and Ioane.  However, the inexperienced pair (in contrast to Ireland&#039;s centres) will have their hands full in making space and creating lines for other runners.

worthwhile having a read to see whether you agree with his analysis and insight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all of the goodwill and general cheer around this match, there seemed to be little hard analysis amongst Irish media of the game against Australia.  Lots of sideline cheering and friendly faces have greeted the Australian squad led by Elsom.</p>
<p>Finally today, a guy called Liam Toland, who I have a lot of time for as an analyst, published the following piece:<br />
<a href="http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2009/1113/1224258724517.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2009/1113/1224258724517.html</a></p>
<p>Toland has the distinction of being one of the few players to have crossed the divide between warring provinces Munster and Leinster.</p>
<p>He started out as flanker with Munster and then moved to Leisnter, captaining them on his debut match and playing 36 matches for them including Heineken Cup matches.</p>
<p>An army man, he now is a regular analyst for Setanta.</p>
<p>His assessment of the breakdown, and the need to target the jackal (first opposition defender to the ball) is nicely done, and points up the challenge for Ireland on Sunday.  Not amongst the forwards, but in the backline.</p>
<p>O&#8217;Driscoll and Darcy are the consummate jackals, with both of them superb at getting in the tackle and being first on the ball.  The inclusion of Wallace at 12 weakens this partnership in his view, and hands some advatnage to Q Cooper and Ioane.  However, the inexperienced pair (in contrast to Ireland&#8217;s centres) will have their hands full in making space and creating lines for other runners.</p>
<p>worthwhile having a read to see whether you agree with his analysis and insight.</p>
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		<title>By: Rugby Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rugby Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dick Best seems to have little doubt that SH players are better prepared and have better skills. You can hear him speaking with Matt Dawson on last night&#039;s BBC 5 Live:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00nshjr/5_live_Sport_5_live_Rugby_12_11_2009/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick Best seems to have little doubt that SH players are better prepared and have better skills. You can hear him speaking with Matt Dawson on last night&#8217;s BBC 5 Live:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00nshjr/5_live_Sport_5_live_Rugby_12_11_2009/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00nshjr/5_live_Sport_5_live_Rugby_12_11_2009/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Terry Kidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Kidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol ..... being a nation with a convict heritage we will steal our mix of ethnicity from anywhere .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol &#8230;.. being a nation with a convict heritage we will steal our mix of ethnicity from anywhere &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: pothale</title>
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		<dc:creator>pothale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So do any Australians actually play for Australia?  I mean even the journalists are not Australian - right Spiro?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So do any Australians actually play for Australia?  I mean even the journalists are not Australian &#8211; right Spiro?</p>
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		<title>By: mcxd</title>
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		<dc:creator>mcxd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha ha well done Dave. Actually i number of years ago (2004 ? i think) i remember Owen Finegan leading the Sydney St. Patricks day parade. Sitting up on the main car waving it was hard to miss his big head. I also won&#039;t forget his 1999 World Cup final try against France. Thank you Ireland !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha ha well done Dave. Actually i number of years ago (2004 ? i think) i remember Owen Finegan leading the Sydney St. Patricks day parade. Sitting up on the main car waving it was hard to miss his big head. I also won&#8217;t forget his 1999 World Cup final try against France. Thank you Ireland !</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Kidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Kidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one Dave, nice riposte .... and fair enough too. The Zimbabwean, PNG and Tongan gene pools have done ok for us too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one Dave, nice riposte &#8230;. and fair enough too. The Zimbabwean, PNG and Tongan gene pools have done ok for us too.</p>
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		<title>By: Dublin Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dublin Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the, admittedly incomplete, transportation records of convicts sent from Ireland to Australia in the 18th and 19th centuries, only one person called O&#039;Driscoll was packed off to the penal colony and his crime is not detailed. I think that shows an admirable foresight on the part of the authorities of the time. 

Mind you the same records show that there were 14 Finnegans, 21 O&#039;Connors, 44 Horans and a whopping 695 Murphys, any one of whom might have been the ancestor of the Miss Murphy who became Mrs Campese and spawned little David about 45 years ago. 

So I think we have been generous enough to the Aussie Rugby gene pool. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the, admittedly incomplete, transportation records of convicts sent from Ireland to Australia in the 18th and 19th centuries, only one person called O&#8217;Driscoll was packed off to the penal colony and his crime is not detailed. I think that shows an admirable foresight on the part of the authorities of the time. </p>
<p>Mind you the same records show that there were 14 Finnegans, 21 O&#8217;Connors, 44 Horans and a whopping 695 Murphys, any one of whom might have been the ancestor of the Miss Murphy who became Mrs Campese and spawned little David about 45 years ago. </p>
<p>So I think we have been generous enough to the Aussie Rugby gene pool. <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dublin Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dublin Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fox

Re your whinge about the game taking place on a Sunday. I sympathise to an extent but in this case there was no choice. The Irish soccer team is taking part in a vital world cup qualification play off on Saturday against France at Croke Park and there simply isn&#039;t another stadium in the country big enough to warrant hosting an Ireland Australia test. Which is of course a sell out. 

Anyway, even if the new Lansdowne Road stadium were available I would question the wisdom of playing two such major events on the same day in the same city. Each would dilute the other. 

As it is, there is a wonderful prospect of weekend sport in store, although letting head rule heart, we are likely to be in despondent mood on Saturday evening. Depending on what transpires on Sunday, we could be cheered up immeasurably or slumped even further in the depths of depression. 

Your whinge brings me on to a pet peeve of my own: namely the hare-brained notion frequently put forward by people south of the equator that the global rugby season should be synchronised so that it takes place at the same time in either hemisphere. With of course the understanding that Europe shifts its rugby calendar to its summer so that it coincides with the Southern Winter. 

As can be seen, there are enough events clashing with each other even at this time of year to cause scheduling problems. If you then want to move rugby out of winter and into the summer months it would be clashing with even more summer sports. In particular in this country it would run slap bang into the middle of the GAA season. And then in countries which enjoy sports like cricket, you would be cutting across enjoyment of that sport too. Notwithstanding the fact that every two years, in Europe at any rate, there are the finals of a major soccer tournament taking place, either the Euro Championship or the World Cup. 

All of which ignores the simple basic reason why we in the Northern Hemisphere invented soccer and rugby in the first place: as distractions from our miserable short-dayed winters. It&#039;s one of the few things that make life bearable up here at this time of year. And some sourthern  numbskulls want to take it away from us just to satisfy a marketing schedule????

They can go to hell!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fox</p>
<p>Re your whinge about the game taking place on a Sunday. I sympathise to an extent but in this case there was no choice. The Irish soccer team is taking part in a vital world cup qualification play off on Saturday against France at Croke Park and there simply isn&#8217;t another stadium in the country big enough to warrant hosting an Ireland Australia test. Which is of course a sell out. </p>
<p>Anyway, even if the new Lansdowne Road stadium were available I would question the wisdom of playing two such major events on the same day in the same city. Each would dilute the other. </p>
<p>As it is, there is a wonderful prospect of weekend sport in store, although letting head rule heart, we are likely to be in despondent mood on Saturday evening. Depending on what transpires on Sunday, we could be cheered up immeasurably or slumped even further in the depths of depression. </p>
<p>Your whinge brings me on to a pet peeve of my own: namely the hare-brained notion frequently put forward by people south of the equator that the global rugby season should be synchronised so that it takes place at the same time in either hemisphere. With of course the understanding that Europe shifts its rugby calendar to its summer so that it coincides with the Southern Winter. </p>
<p>As can be seen, there are enough events clashing with each other even at this time of year to cause scheduling problems. If you then want to move rugby out of winter and into the summer months it would be clashing with even more summer sports. In particular in this country it would run slap bang into the middle of the GAA season. And then in countries which enjoy sports like cricket, you would be cutting across enjoyment of that sport too. Notwithstanding the fact that every two years, in Europe at any rate, there are the finals of a major soccer tournament taking place, either the Euro Championship or the World Cup. </p>
<p>All of which ignores the simple basic reason why we in the Northern Hemisphere invented soccer and rugby in the first place: as distractions from our miserable short-dayed winters. It&#8217;s one of the few things that make life bearable up here at this time of year. And some sourthern  numbskulls want to take it away from us just to satisfy a marketing schedule????</p>
<p>They can go to hell!!</p>
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		<title>By: mcxd</title>
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		<dc:creator>mcxd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im a bit concerned with the rather raw centres against one of the best BOD. Weve seen what he did with the Lions. I predict him to have a big game. (damn i wish his ancestors got caught stealing a loaf of bread or something).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im a bit concerned with the rather raw centres against one of the best BOD. Weve seen what he did with the Lions. I predict him to have a big game. (damn i wish his ancestors got caught stealing a loaf of bread or something).</p>
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		<title>By: NickSA</title>
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		<dc:creator>NickSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you guys are giving ireland way to much credit. The wallabies lost to one of the best bok sides ever produced (don&#039;t forget they pulled an upset off aswell) and to a very good all black team!! The all black team looked very comfortable in their win over wales. I think people are underestimating aus because of the tri nations!!  i just feel aus has to much quality for this irish team but we will see...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you guys are giving ireland way to much credit. The wallabies lost to one of the best bok sides ever produced (don&#8217;t forget they pulled an upset off aswell) and to a very good all black team!! The all black team looked very comfortable in their win over wales. I think people are underestimating aus because of the tri nations!!  i just feel aus has to much quality for this irish team but we will see&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AndyS</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at the team selections, I suspect that this week is very much about using Pocock to blunt the Irish backrow. It is going to get real willing this weekend and throwing Smith in after 50 is not a bad tactic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the team selections, I suspect that this week is very much about using Pocock to blunt the Irish backrow. It is going to get real willing this weekend and throwing Smith in after 50 is not a bad tactic.</p>
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		<title>By: fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am thinking of retiring myself actually to become a full time contributor to the Roar forums. Why - don&#039;t you get paid for your contributions?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am thinking of retiring myself actually to become a full time contributor to the Roar forums. Why &#8211; don&#8217;t you get paid for your contributions?!</p>
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		<title>By: Worlds Biggest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Worlds Biggest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, Ireland should be clear favourites. Playing at home, current 6 N Champs and the Wallabies just can&#039;t string back to back wins and or ( performances ) against quality teams. A good mate of mine in Dublin tells me there isn&#039;t a lot of hype around this game and all eyes are on the Springboks ( Lions revenge ). There appears to be a lot of talk about Rocky&#039;s return but outside of that Irish fans want a crack at the World Champs which is fair enough. Perhaps the Irish players might also be casting one eye on the Boks. Here&#039;s hoping as it might give our guys a chance !. A win for the Wallabies would be huge however I think Ireland win by 7 points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Ireland should be clear favourites. Playing at home, current 6 N Champs and the Wallabies just can&#8217;t string back to back wins and or ( performances ) against quality teams. A good mate of mine in Dublin tells me there isn&#8217;t a lot of hype around this game and all eyes are on the Springboks ( Lions revenge ). There appears to be a lot of talk about Rocky&#8217;s return but outside of that Irish fans want a crack at the World Champs which is fair enough. Perhaps the Irish players might also be casting one eye on the Boks. Here&#8217;s hoping as it might give our guys a chance !. A win for the Wallabies would be huge however I think Ireland win by 7 points.</p>
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		<title>By: stillmissit</title>
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		<dc:creator>stillmissit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand how you feel as I suffered from similar situations during my working life. Try being in America when a test is on there is nothing on the TV there.

Now I am retired, every day is a good day and I dont give a stuff what you call it, the sun comes up and the sun goes down.

Retirement is the great gift for poor bastards like me who worked 70 hour weeks for years and years.  Wish I had done it sooner.

The game, the game, ah! the game, it has me. I hear it is pissing down, my hopes are falling with that rain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand how you feel as I suffered from similar situations during my working life. Try being in America when a test is on there is nothing on the TV there.</p>
<p>Now I am retired, every day is a good day and I dont give a stuff what you call it, the sun comes up and the sun goes down.</p>
<p>Retirement is the great gift for poor bastards like me who worked 70 hour weeks for years and years.  Wish I had done it sooner.</p>
<p>The game, the game, ah! the game, it has me. I hear it is pissing down, my hopes are falling with that rain.</p>
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		<title>By: pothale</title>
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		<dc:creator>pothale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If O&#039;Gara goes red-faced at some point in the match, and losing the plot, time for Kidney to get out the shepherd&#039;s crook and haul him ashore and put Sexton on.    Easy.

Re the match being on Sunday, two possible reasons.
a) Ireland play France in a WC qualifier the day before so Croke Park not available, but I&#039;m not sure if the dates were decided that early and held open in case Ireland qualified.
b) TV company deals.  Wales and France games on Friday as a double bill.  Italy, England and Scotland on the Saturday, and the bonanza on the Sunday with Ireland/Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If O&#8217;Gara goes red-faced at some point in the match, and losing the plot, time for Kidney to get out the shepherd&#8217;s crook and haul him ashore and put Sexton on.    Easy.</p>
<p>Re the match being on Sunday, two possible reasons.<br />
a) Ireland play France in a WC qualifier the day before so Croke Park not available, but I&#8217;m not sure if the dates were decided that early and held open in case Ireland qualified.<br />
b) TV company deals.  Wales and France games on Friday as a double bill.  Italy, England and Scotland on the Saturday, and the bonanza on the Sunday with Ireland/Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Kidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Kidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol Pothale .... good one, you brought a smile to my face. Yes, I hope O&#039;Gara does spray his kicks all game .... all over the shop .... he may kick as often as he likes because we will run it back with interest !!!!!

I expect O&#039;Gara to be hanging his head, and puffing with fatigue, as another Wallaby attack goes thru his channel, and as the players inside and outside him move to cover Cooper will set a wider running Giteau and Inone and ACC free with accurate clearing passes.

A tough, exciting match but the Wallabies by 4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol Pothale &#8230;. good one, you brought a smile to my face. Yes, I hope O&#8217;Gara does spray his kicks all game &#8230;. all over the shop &#8230;. he may kick as often as he likes because we will run it back with interest !!!!!</p>
<p>I expect O&#8217;Gara to be hanging his head, and puffing with fatigue, as another Wallaby attack goes thru his channel, and as the players inside and outside him move to cover Cooper will set a wider running Giteau and Inone and ACC free with accurate clearing passes.</p>
<p>A tough, exciting match but the Wallabies by 4.</p>
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		<title>By: pothale</title>
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		<dc:creator>pothale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, obviously, now that the team is out, and Flannery, Wallace, O&#039;Gara and Heaslip are in place, I can be more certain of how the team is likely to play.

Heaslip is a barnstormer at 8, and if he can repeat some of his form from last season - Irl v France with his storming, pacy run to the tryline and score; the explosive, gainline breaking game for the Lions in the 3rd test; his games for Leinster in the Munster semi-final and Leicester H Cup final, then we&#039;re in for a great afternoon.  

Flannery is a feisty, fiery hooker who is one of the most driven, intense players I&#039;ve seen play on a rugby pitch, when he gets his game face on for Munster and Ireland, you just know that he is willing to go anywhere, tackle anything and put his body on the line for the team.  With him back in the front row, and Healy in the form he&#039;s in, I think Robinson, Hore and Moore aren&#039;t going to have it all their own way, after all.

I can see O&#039;Connell returning to his imperial best - that stunning scene from that day in February 2007, as he soared over 12 feet in the air at Croke Park to take England&#039;s ball in one hand and launch another wave of attack from the backline.

Even O&#039;Gara may surprise me, as he recovers his form, and that grim determination that enters his demeanour as he coldly starts directing play around the field, setting the line in motion, spraying kicks left and right, turning the opposition time and time again, wearing out the opposition forwards as they trudge wearily back into their 22 for another hotly contested lineout, nerves frazzling, and O&#039;Gara&#039;s face doesn&#039;t show a flicker of emotion.

The roar of the crowd rising as O&#039;Driscoll probes once again the defensive line, and makes the break, cutting, scything, swerving forward, as his backline lieutenants, Fitzgerald, Kearney and Bowe, sweep in behind him to finish out the break and touch the ball down.

Ooh yes, I&#039;ve got goosebumps already.  This is gonna be a good one.  

Ireland hard to beat?  Make that impossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, obviously, now that the team is out, and Flannery, Wallace, O&#8217;Gara and Heaslip are in place, I can be more certain of how the team is likely to play.</p>
<p>Heaslip is a barnstormer at 8, and if he can repeat some of his form from last season &#8211; Irl v France with his storming, pacy run to the tryline and score; the explosive, gainline breaking game for the Lions in the 3rd test; his games for Leinster in the Munster semi-final and Leicester H Cup final, then we&#8217;re in for a great afternoon.  </p>
<p>Flannery is a feisty, fiery hooker who is one of the most driven, intense players I&#8217;ve seen play on a rugby pitch, when he gets his game face on for Munster and Ireland, you just know that he is willing to go anywhere, tackle anything and put his body on the line for the team.  With him back in the front row, and Healy in the form he&#8217;s in, I think Robinson, Hore and Moore aren&#8217;t going to have it all their own way, after all.</p>
<p>I can see O&#8217;Connell returning to his imperial best &#8211; that stunning scene from that day in February 2007, as he soared over 12 feet in the air at Croke Park to take England&#8217;s ball in one hand and launch another wave of attack from the backline.</p>
<p>Even O&#8217;Gara may surprise me, as he recovers his form, and that grim determination that enters his demeanour as he coldly starts directing play around the field, setting the line in motion, spraying kicks left and right, turning the opposition time and time again, wearing out the opposition forwards as they trudge wearily back into their 22 for another hotly contested lineout, nerves frazzling, and O&#8217;Gara&#8217;s face doesn&#8217;t show a flicker of emotion.</p>
<p>The roar of the crowd rising as O&#8217;Driscoll probes once again the defensive line, and makes the break, cutting, scything, swerving forward, as his backline lieutenants, Fitzgerald, Kearney and Bowe, sweep in behind him to finish out the break and touch the ball down.</p>
<p>Ooh yes, I&#8217;ve got goosebumps already.  This is gonna be a good one.  </p>
<p>Ireland hard to beat?  Make that impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree stillmissit, I am fairly (and strangely) comfortable with the Wallaby backs. They just need front foot ball and lots of it. if they get that then Ireland will have a tough time keeping us out. So in that you are correct, forward dominance, as ever, will be the key. We&#039;ll need to clear our lines well too, as O&#039;Gara has the ability to keep us in our own half unless we can a) kick back effectively while avoiding too many lineouts or b) run it out of trouble and retain possession.

On another note entirely and even though nobody&#039;s really going to care, let me have a big whinge about the Sunday scheduling. Whinge begins now: What the hell?!  Nevermind that 2am AEST on a Monday morning is going to hurt most, but I will be in Auckland this weekend where it will be a 4am start. That is particularly annoying as I have a 6am flight back to Sydney. How will I avoid rugby fans and news all day Monday until I can watch the recording?! Whinge over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree stillmissit, I am fairly (and strangely) comfortable with the Wallaby backs. They just need front foot ball and lots of it. if they get that then Ireland will have a tough time keeping us out. So in that you are correct, forward dominance, as ever, will be the key. We&#8217;ll need to clear our lines well too, as O&#8217;Gara has the ability to keep us in our own half unless we can a) kick back effectively while avoiding too many lineouts or b) run it out of trouble and retain possession.</p>
<p>On another note entirely and even though nobody&#8217;s really going to care, let me have a big whinge about the Sunday scheduling. Whinge begins now: What the hell?!  Nevermind that 2am AEST on a Monday morning is going to hurt most, but I will be in Auckland this weekend where it will be a 4am start. That is particularly annoying as I have a 6am flight back to Sydney. How will I avoid rugby fans and news all day Monday until I can watch the recording?! Whinge over.</p>
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		<title>By: Dublin Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dublin Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Other Reds Fan

&quot;If it is a dry track we will win, but if it is raining, then we will lose. Simple.&quot;

Bet on ireland then, mate. It&#039;s pissing down here right now. :)</description>
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<p>&#8220;If it is a dry track we will win, but if it is raining, then we will lose. Simple.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bet on ireland then, mate. It&#8217;s pissing down here right now. <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: stuff happens</title>
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		<dc:creator>stuff happens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Pothale,
This is a very good Irish team and Australia will need to play extremely well to beat them.The Irish have terrific players in key positions : O&#039;Connell &amp; his mate at lock, Heaslip &amp; Ferris in the back row.
Heaslip was outstanding in the Lions win in the final test in SA and I thought Ferris was a Lions test certainty until he was injured.In the final test of last year&#039;s 6N against Wales in Cardiff it was the Irish back row that got them over the line. They were clearly better than the Welsh although Ryan Jones seems to rejuvenated this season.BOD is one of the greats and good luck to him for his 100th cap.I also thought Kearney was terrific in SA.Both FItzgerald and Bowe are very good wings.
 Ireland&#039;s weakness as we know is O&#039;Gara&#039;s all round game, particularly his tackling - he will expect a lot of traffic from Palu &amp; Pocock.As others have mentioned not playing for months is a big disadvantage.
But Declan Kidney has been a big success as a coach in Ireland.He&#039;s a smart guy.I think they&#039;ll be hard to beat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Pothale,<br />
This is a very good Irish team and Australia will need to play extremely well to beat them.The Irish have terrific players in key positions : O&#8217;Connell &amp; his mate at lock, Heaslip &amp; Ferris in the back row.<br />
Heaslip was outstanding in the Lions win in the final test in SA and I thought Ferris was a Lions test certainty until he was injured.In the final test of last year&#8217;s 6N against Wales in Cardiff it was the Irish back row that got them over the line. They were clearly better than the Welsh although Ryan Jones seems to rejuvenated this season.BOD is one of the greats and good luck to him for his 100th cap.I also thought Kearney was terrific in SA.Both FItzgerald and Bowe are very good wings.<br />
 Ireland&#8217;s weakness as we know is O&#8217;Gara&#8217;s all round game, particularly his tackling &#8211; he will expect a lot of traffic from Palu &amp; Pocock.As others have mentioned not playing for months is a big disadvantage.<br />
But Declan Kidney has been a big success as a coach in Ireland.He&#8217;s a smart guy.I think they&#8217;ll be hard to beat</p>
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		<title>By: Brett McKay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett McKay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best of luck then Pots - if you have half as much fun as I did while blogging the Fifth Ashes Test, you&#039;ll still have a great time.  But at least I had an ad break at the end of each over!!  Look forward to joining you from my lounge room sports camp ;-) (0130 ADST!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best of luck then Pots &#8211; if you have half as much fun as I did while blogging the Fifth Ashes Test, you&#8217;ll still have a great time.  But at least I had an ad break at the end of each over!!  Look forward to joining you from my lounge room sports camp <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  (0130 ADST!!)</p>
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		<title>By: stillmissit</title>
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		<dc:creator>stillmissit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christ I wish I had the blind optimism of a Blinky or NickSA. Ireland is at full strength and the current Wallabies have rarely put in 2 good performances but &#039;rather than optimism there is hope&#039; (sounds like a quote from Lord of the RIngs).

We will struggle at Lineout time, I can&#039;t believe we can turn that mess around in a week. The breakdown is my real worry we were run over by the English in the first 30mins, we can&#039;t afford that against Ireland.

Strangely I feel comfortable with our backs, it is our forwards and how much resolve they bring to this game, that is what is keeping me awake at night.

I think I must get up and watch this one, don&#039;t want to lay awake wondering how the boys are doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christ I wish I had the blind optimism of a Blinky or NickSA. Ireland is at full strength and the current Wallabies have rarely put in 2 good performances but &#8216;rather than optimism there is hope&#8217; (sounds like a quote from Lord of the RIngs).</p>
<p>We will struggle at Lineout time, I can&#8217;t believe we can turn that mess around in a week. The breakdown is my real worry we were run over by the English in the first 30mins, we can&#8217;t afford that against Ireland.</p>
<p>Strangely I feel comfortable with our backs, it is our forwards and how much resolve they bring to this game, that is what is keeping me awake at night.</p>
<p>I think I must get up and watch this one, don&#8217;t want to lay awake wondering how the boys are doing.</p>
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		<title>By: stillmissit</title>
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		<dc:creator>stillmissit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Short-Blind - this is not an attack on your argument but you just happened to mention it at the right time.

After reading and grudgingly agreeing that George Smith was not up to his normal standard, I re-watched the first 30 mins on the England test (Now that takes some doing).

Smith was into everything and pulled off 3 critical tackles and was first there in most of the breakdowns and was all over them. The penalty that the fox coverage was suggesting was George was actually Alexander who was so offside he could have been playing halfback for England. I came away from the 30mins from hell with a renewed enthusiasm for one George Smith. Sure he ain&#039;t up to McCaws standard but only the SA youngster is at that level. My partner mentioned that he never looks happy these days and I guess he has had a tough trot.

He is still our best openside, Pocock may get there but he should be doing more if he is going to be the next Wunderkind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short-Blind &#8211; this is not an attack on your argument but you just happened to mention it at the right time.</p>
<p>After reading and grudgingly agreeing that George Smith was not up to his normal standard, I re-watched the first 30 mins on the England test (Now that takes some doing).</p>
<p>Smith was into everything and pulled off 3 critical tackles and was first there in most of the breakdowns and was all over them. The penalty that the fox coverage was suggesting was George was actually Alexander who was so offside he could have been playing halfback for England. I came away from the 30mins from hell with a renewed enthusiasm for one George Smith. Sure he ain&#8217;t up to McCaws standard but only the SA youngster is at that level. My partner mentioned that he never looks happy these days and I guess he has had a tough trot.</p>
<p>He is still our best openside, Pocock may get there but he should be doing more if he is going to be the next Wunderkind.</p>
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		<title>By: Short-Blind.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Short-Blind.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pots - the 5 try comment was not meant as an excuse or to belittle England, rather one to illustrate the potential &#039;upside&#039; of this Wallaby outfit i.e. they can break down a defensive line however need to learn how to finish and be a little less selfish when in the red zone,  BTW you there is no need for excuses if you win the game :)  Good luck on Sunday I wish I was there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pots &#8211; the 5 try comment was not meant as an excuse or to belittle England, rather one to illustrate the potential &#8216;upside&#8217; of this Wallaby outfit i.e. they can break down a defensive line however need to learn how to finish and be a little less selfish when in the red zone,  BTW you there is no need for excuses if you win the game <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Good luck on Sunday I wish I was there.</p>
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		<title>By: ohtani's jacket</title>
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		<dc:creator>ohtani's jacket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NZ media were reasonably satisfied with the result against Wales. This is a workmanlike All Black side, but they probably have more chance of winning a World Cup by being a working class side than they do by blitzing everyone on the end of year tours. They&#039;d beat the Irish if they were playing them this tour. Probably would&#039;ve beaten them in June too. Unless the Irish pack is better than I&#039;m giving them credit for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NZ media were reasonably satisfied with the result against Wales. This is a workmanlike All Black side, but they probably have more chance of winning a World Cup by being a working class side than they do by blitzing everyone on the end of year tours. They&#8217;d beat the Irish if they were playing them this tour. Probably would&#8217;ve beaten them in June too. Unless the Irish pack is better than I&#8217;m giving them credit for.</p>
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		<title>By: NickSA</title>
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		<dc:creator>NickSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Romey

I 100% agree with you.
The aussies are a very decent team!! I honestly think they are gonna get the grandslam....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romey</p>
<p>I 100% agree with you.<br />
The aussies are a very decent team!! I honestly think they are gonna get the grandslam&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: NickSA</title>
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		<dc:creator>NickSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aussies are gonna win, wont be a thrashing but aussies will pull through...</description>
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		<title>By: mcxd</title>
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		<dc:creator>mcxd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think thats an excellent irish side. Mixture of experience, hard forwards and exciting adventurist backs..take out O&#039;Gara and the backline would be on fire... hes only there for his kicking. (and thats damn good)

Oh dear, it will be a valiant effort for the wallabies to win this one. Then again i did pick Ireland to go well in 2007 RWC. Who knows what will happen . I suppose thats why everyones looking forward to this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think thats an excellent irish side. Mixture of experience, hard forwards and exciting adventurist backs..take out O&#8217;Gara and the backline would be on fire&#8230; hes only there for his kicking. (and thats damn good)</p>
<p>Oh dear, it will be a valiant effort for the wallabies to win this one. Then again i did pick Ireland to go well in 2007 RWC. Who knows what will happen . I suppose thats why everyones looking forward to this one.</p>
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		<title>By: pothale</title>
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		<dc:creator>pothale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Close enough.  

Glad to see Cullen in there, in case the lineout needs a change-up.  Court was the obvious back-up, and good for Cronin - I suspect he may get some game time if Flannery&#039;s ankle suffers a twinge. 

Leamy has played all three positions in the back-row.

Reddan for O&#039;Leary or possibly Reddan and Sexton to replace the Munster pair of half-tends.

And finally Earls as utility.

Am pleased for Paddy Wallace - he&#039;s earned his 12 spot on current form, and he&#039;s no stranger to playing Australia.

How&#039;s Egypt going then, KO?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Close enough.  </p>
<p>Glad to see Cullen in there, in case the lineout needs a change-up.  Court was the obvious back-up, and good for Cronin &#8211; I suspect he may get some game time if Flannery&#8217;s ankle suffers a twinge. </p>
<p>Leamy has played all three positions in the back-row.</p>
<p>Reddan for O&#8217;Leary or possibly Reddan and Sexton to replace the Munster pair of half-tends.</p>
<p>And finally Earls as utility.</p>
<p>Am pleased for Paddy Wallace &#8211; he&#8217;s earned his 12 spot on current form, and he&#8217;s no stranger to playing Australia.</p>
<p>How&#8217;s Egypt going then, KO?</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ireland: R Kearney, T Bowe, B O&#039;Driscoll, P Wallace, L Fitzgerald, R O&#039;Gara, T O&#039;Leary; C Healy, J Flannery, J Hayes, P O&#039;Connell, D O&#039;Callaghan, S Ferris, D Wallace, J Heaslip.
Replacements: S Cronin, T Court, L Cullen, D Leamy, E Reddan, J Sexton, K Earls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ireland: R Kearney, T Bowe, B O&#8217;Driscoll, P Wallace, L Fitzgerald, R O&#8217;Gara, T O&#8217;Leary; C Healy, J Flannery, J Hayes, P O&#8217;Connell, D O&#8217;Callaghan, S Ferris, D Wallace, J Heaslip.<br />
Replacements: S Cronin, T Court, L Cullen, D Leamy, E Reddan, J Sexton, K Earls.</p>
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