Comments on: Dickinson ‘guessed’ on scrum rulings, reckons Hansen

By: Lee

Lee — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:30:34 +0000

Completely agree with you in regards to the Touchies – I actually think one of teh touchies in the France- Boks game was the best I have ever seen. He didn’t go looking for attention but did the basics really well.

By: Lee

Lee — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:28:29 +0000

Kaplan is far better than Stuart Dickinson.

You know as soon as DIckinson is named as a ref who will the game. Same with Barnes, I find it amazing that the closest games between NH and SH opposition usually involve one of these two.

By: MarkR

MarkR — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:26:59 +0000

I watched the last 10 mins again this am just to work out what had been going on.
Initially a scrum from a ruck
Scrums 1 & 2 – Italian 17 (tighthead) was bringing his hips out as soon as the hit was made = reset.
Penalty at scrum 2 with Meesam pinged for going early

Scrum 3 went down, both Woodcock & Italian 3 (actually 17) had head below hips but couldn’t see who initiated it due to camera angle

Scrum 4 – Italian 3 dropping his shoulder ,
Penalty & yellow card on the opposite side of the scrum !

Scrum 5 – Italian 3 angles again & Woodcock gets popped up
Penalty for standing up

Scrum 6 – swivels & a reset

Scrum 7 – Down & reset with Italian 3 on the angle (for a change)

Scrum 8 – Italian 3 on an angle, ball comes out side of scrum & play on.

Then Italy get another penalty & call for another scrum which wasn’t reset, after that ball held in ruck/maul & game finished.

After relooking at the last 10 I can’t believe Dickinson let the Italian 3 get away with it as he was on that side for a fair few of the resets/penalties, I can remember the Bok loosie pulling the same stunt in one of the TN games & getting away with it as well so maybe it’s not something refs look for. Although you’d think having two props almost side on to their locks would be a give away that someone isn’t coming in straight !.

CD – funnily enough I don’t mind Kaplan although I try not to blame refs when we lose as I don’t believe that certain refs have it ‘in for some teams. I believe that they do the best job they possibly can & sometimes being human they just plain miss stuff %-) Now don;t get me started on teh touchies, all they have to watch is the ball going out, lineouts, offside, teh stuff these guys miss/ignore is mind boggling.

By: Cattledog

Cattledog — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:45:28 +0000

Dickinson ‘guessed’ eh. You have Kaplan this WE. I’d say it’s out of the fat and into the fire! lol

By: ohtani's jacket

ohtani's jacket — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:37:03 +0000

Full credit to the Italians if they were boring in, but Hansen is right — Dickinson was all at sea. It seems the malaise in Australian rugby extends all the way through to their referees. The New Zealand coaches obviously want a better deal at Twickenham, but they’re not very good at sending messages to the IRB. Here’s a hint — it only works if you coach a home union.

By: JamesB

JamesB — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:44:29 +0000

Oh by the way – NZ have returned to No.1 in IRB rankings. We all knew that would happen once they adapted to to Boks ping pong game and the Boks dropped a match in Europe.

By: JamesB

JamesB — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:42:37 +0000

It was without a doubt a farce and Hanson is just stating what we all have known for a while – refs do just guess at scrum time, not to mention lineouts and rucks most of the time. For anyone who watched that game – rugby is in a sorry state right now.

By: Mr Denmore

Mr Denmore — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:50:46 +0000

Err, the All Blacks won, with a third string team, three new caps in the backline and a scrum full of people who had played only one or two tests. The Italian tighthead was definitely boring in. You could see if from the overhead angles (which makes me think the ref should have a similar vantage point.)

By: Jerry

Jerry — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:23:42 +0000

To be fair, I did notice that prop boring in on Flynn in a fair few scrums. But fair play, cause he was getting away with it.

Dickinson did seem to be guessing for the most part, he always made the call against the defensive scrum.

By: bob

bob — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:19:18 +0000

So now the Ab’s want the irb to reconsider the scrum laws? Is this a joke? When the SA boy kicks from long range, they want a different ball, now a different scrum… it’s funny… they won the game but were given a master class in scrummaging, just as south africa were by france… but really, at least the saffers were big enough to admit it was the poor singing of their national anthem that ruined their chances and cost them the game!!!!! Is Aussie the only southern team that can lose or draw without blaming the laws, the anthems and the colour of the shirts? It’s becoming a bit embarrassing. The Ab pack is too weak, and it’s the backs who bail them out every time. Stop crying about it and catch up.