Comments on: Ashley-Cooper urged to make No.15 stand

By: TommyM

TommyM — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:14:41 +0000

I would say JOC will play at 12 again (where he prefers to play), or possibly on the wing. With Mitchell gone, I would think Cam Shepherd has 15 sewn up. Some interesting options for the Force though with lots of experience and versatility in their backs next year.

Not sure on AAC at 15 for the Brumbies. I wonder if they may play Leileafano (sp.?) there with Toomua at 10 and Gits in his proper position of 12. AAC at 13 or wing for mine (with Smith at 13)

By: Campbell Watts

Campbell Watts — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:45:52 +0000

Greg I agree regarding O’Connor and where he’ll play.

I must admit I’d rather see Shep at fullback – his size, height and big boot make him more suited than O’C to the modern roll of fullback.

A pairing of Pretorius and O’C puts two pretty small blokes together and creates a big attacking corridor for big loosies or centres to exploit.

How about O’C on the wing??? Al la twinkle toes Shane Williams.

By: Chris Beck

Chris Beck — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:14:12 +0000

This debate about Ashley-Cooper reminds me of Taine Randell, who I always liked as a player. Various coaches could never seem to decide where to put Randell in the back row. Lindsay Knight’s writeup on the NZ Rugby Museum site hypothesizes that being good at multiple positions is not good for the longevity of a representative career.

By: Greg Russell

Greg Russell — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:37:57 +0000

I don’t care whether AAC ends up at 15 or 13 or even on a wing, but Burke is correct that he has to make a decision to specialize in a position and stick to it.

Interestingly, the decision will probably be made for him: Gerrard (this season’s 15) has left the Brumbies and Mortlock is still on their books, so it’s highly likely that AAC will have to play 15 for the Brumbies next year. Once he’s playing there for the Brumbies every week, it would seem logical to continue in that position for the Wallabies.

What will also be interesting is where O’Connor plays for the Force next year. At 12 outside Pretorius, or at 15 with Shepherd on the wing?

By: TommyM

TommyM — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:02:33 +0000

Not sure if others have seen it, but I watched a video blog a few young guys are making that are following the Wallabies tour. They did an interview with AAC, Drew Mitchell and Gits over coffee in Ireland and asked each where they preferred to play. Gits unsurprisingly said 10. Mitchell said wing or 15 depending on the game, but most interestingly AAC said he actually preferred to play on the wing where he had more license to ‘pop up wherever’. I, like others always presumed he’s end up at 13 and that he would prefer that, but there you go. Agree with you James that Cam Shepherd is a better fullback who will regain his spot if fit. AAC has got to be in the team though- on the wing, 15 or out-centre. There’s certainly going to be some selection dilemmas for Deans in the next few years in the backs though with Shepherd and Barnes back, and potentially Mark Gasnier in the frame!. Long may it last

By: Jameswm

Jameswm — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:33:47 +0000

Interesting thoughts Burkey, but I think 13 is AAC’s best position. If Cam Shepherd ever gets fit, he can play 15, with Digby on one wing and Hynes or Turner on the other.

By: Matt

Matt — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:58:18 +0000

I have been saying for some time that AAC is our most consistent back (over the course of the last 10 games). Especially in the wake of (early season) criticism that AAC was not a test standard player, I think he has stood out as the most solid and dependable back in the whole team.

By: Blacky

Blacky — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:01:42 +0000

It’s not just AC who needs to make a stand. It’s time for the whole Wallaby squad to become more settled and to start playing the same squad for longer than just a few tests in a row.

Even though this current squad selection is due to injuries of some other key playes (Sharpe, Barnes, Mortlock), you can already see after a couple of matches that they are begining to gel. They played much better against Ireland than against England (minus the kicking).

Surely this is due to training sessions involving the same players and also the players themselves becoming comfortable with the guy next to him.

I think this is already exemplified by the forwards display this season. They have been together for a while now and they are really looking good. Probably the best Aussie pack this decade.