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	<title>Comments on: The A-League of silly club nicknames</title>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/19/the-a-league-of-silly-club-nicknames/#comment-250656</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. A bunch of corporate suits forcing a nickname on the fanbase is not the way to go, nor are short-term polls for a team name like they&#039;re doing with Heart right now. Good nicknames are never created overnight - they take years to properly develop. I hope Melburnians wins that name-the-team poll; it&#039;s the most generic name of all of them, sounds decent and will allow a proper nickname to be created. And attaching &#039;Sporting&#039; to any club name is ridiculous (because they only compete in one sport) and un-Australian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. A bunch of corporate suits forcing a nickname on the fanbase is not the way to go, nor are short-term polls for a team name like they&#8217;re doing with Heart right now. Good nicknames are never created overnight &#8211; they take years to properly develop. I hope Melburnians wins that name-the-team poll; it&#8217;s the most generic name of all of them, sounds decent and will allow a proper nickname to be created. And attaching &#8216;Sporting&#8217; to any club name is ridiculous (because they only compete in one sport) and un-Australian.</p>
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		<title>By: gazz</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/19/the-a-league-of-silly-club-nicknames/#comment-250549</link>
		<dc:creator>gazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wrong smokygrayson. European soccer is steeped in tradition. Australian soccer, not so much. we need to create our own traditions and i dont want us just copying euro names, ie.sporting, athletic etc. its lame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wrong smokygrayson. European soccer is steeped in tradition. Australian soccer, not so much. we need to create our own traditions and i dont want us just copying euro names, ie.sporting, athletic etc. its lame.</p>
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		<title>By: Smokygrayson</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/19/the-a-league-of-silly-club-nicknames/#comment-250473</link>
		<dc:creator>Smokygrayson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on. Some of the names are really dopey. What&#039;s the worst is Brisbane &quot;Roar&quot;. Roar is a verb for crying out loud. A name can&#039;t be a verb! Sokkah is steeped in tradition. I reckon let&#039;s try to keep it that way...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on. Some of the names are really dopey. What&#8217;s the worst is Brisbane &#8220;Roar&#8221;. Roar is a verb for crying out loud. A name can&#8217;t be a verb! Sokkah is steeped in tradition. I reckon let&#8217;s try to keep it that way&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew-R</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/19/the-a-league-of-silly-club-nicknames/#comment-250131</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew-R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or the Posh...

Still names like the Roar, Fury, Heart, really mean nothing at all - as time goes on you would hope that the place/region names would become the main focus. 

The thing is with a franchise - Nth Queensland Fury can quite easily become Darwin Fury, or Hobart Fury if it fails in one area, and moves to another. Lets hope that doesn&#039;t happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or the Posh&#8230;</p>
<p>Still names like the Roar, Fury, Heart, really mean nothing at all &#8211; as time goes on you would hope that the place/region names would become the main focus. </p>
<p>The thing is with a franchise &#8211; Nth Queensland Fury can quite easily become Darwin Fury, or Hobart Fury if it fails in one area, and moves to another. Lets hope that doesn&#8217;t happen.</p>
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		<title>By: melbourne ger</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/19/the-a-league-of-silly-club-nicknames/#comment-250098</link>
		<dc:creator>melbourne ger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael - poor examples. Arsenal are not known as &quot;The Arsenal Gunners&quot; - they are Arsenal, plain and simple. All these nicknames developed for a historical/ geographical/ kit colour reason and were not created by a group of sports administrators. I actually think the Gold Coast AFL franchise got it spot on by letting the nickname evolve naturally. Shame ALL teams in ALL codes dont follow suit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael &#8211; poor examples. Arsenal are not known as &#8220;The Arsenal Gunners&#8221; &#8211; they are Arsenal, plain and simple. All these nicknames developed for a historical/ geographical/ kit colour reason and were not created by a group of sports administrators. I actually think the Gold Coast AFL franchise got it spot on by letting the nickname evolve naturally. Shame ALL teams in ALL codes dont follow suit.</p>
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		<title>By: Nam Turk</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/19/the-a-league-of-silly-club-nicknames/#comment-249865</link>
		<dc:creator>Nam Turk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget the Lilywhites. That&#039;s intimidating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget the Lilywhites. That&#8217;s intimidating.</p>
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		<title>By: Nam Turk</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/19/the-a-league-of-silly-club-nicknames/#comment-249864</link>
		<dc:creator>Nam Turk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew this couldn&#039;t run its course without blaming Americans...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew this couldn&#8217;t run its course without blaming Americans&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/19/the-a-league-of-silly-club-nicknames/#comment-249659</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As opposed to:

Red Devils, The Old Lady, The Toffees, The Villains, The Baggies, The Citizens, The Spurs, The Gunners, The Tigers, The Cottagers, and The Lactics</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As opposed to:</p>
<p>Red Devils, The Old Lady, The Toffees, The Villains, The Baggies, The Citizens, The Spurs, The Gunners, The Tigers, The Cottagers, and The Lactics</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Storm isn&#039;t much better than Power to be honest. I just don&#039;t understand how people can feel an attachment to a club that has a stupid moniker like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Storm isn&#8217;t much better than Power to be honest. I just don&#8217;t understand how people can feel an attachment to a club that has a stupid moniker like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Freud of Football</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/19/the-a-league-of-silly-club-nicknames/#comment-249631</link>
		<dc:creator>Freud of Football</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t Port Adelaide make the decision in a televised event? 

I seem to remember they had shortlisted the names and then they had some tv show where they decided on ... &quot;Power&quot; ... From memory Pirates was a name that made it close to the end and for mine (while very American) would have made much more sense being on the coast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Port Adelaide make the decision in a televised event? </p>
<p>I seem to remember they had shortlisted the names and then they had some tv show where they decided on &#8230; &#8220;Power&#8221; &#8230; From memory Pirates was a name that made it close to the end and for mine (while very American) would have made much more sense being on the coast.</p>
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		<title>By: Freud of Football</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/19/the-a-league-of-silly-club-nicknames/#comment-249628</link>
		<dc:creator>Freud of Football</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The European names don&#039;t suit the Australian A-League franchises. &quot;Sporting, Atletic&quot; etc are indicative of a &quot;greater club&quot; that has more to offer. 

Stuttgart Kickers is a name that indicates the place (as most teams do) and the Kickers refers to a decision to ONLY play football whereas a lot of other clubs (across Europe) combine different sports within their organisation. Real Madrid with basketball is quite well-known, Unterhaching&#039;s logo ( http://www.fussballwurst.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/spvggunterhaching.png ) will tell you the story of their club and so on.

The franchises just needed to get away from words such as Fury and Glory, it&#039;s like American people naming their kids with the characteristics that they want them to have when they grow up, there is a whole generation of girls named &quot;Hope&quot;, &quot;Charity&quot;, &quot;Honor&quot; etc.

Sometimes marketing people have their place in sport, other times they just ruin it. The naming of A-League clubs certainly falls in the second category, I bet they listed of possible newspaper puns while coming up with the names and used it as part of their decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The European names don&#8217;t suit the Australian A-League franchises. &#8220;Sporting, Atletic&#8221; etc are indicative of a &#8220;greater club&#8221; that has more to offer. </p>
<p>Stuttgart Kickers is a name that indicates the place (as most teams do) and the Kickers refers to a decision to ONLY play football whereas a lot of other clubs (across Europe) combine different sports within their organisation. Real Madrid with basketball is quite well-known, Unterhaching&#8217;s logo ( <a href="http://www.fussballwurst.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/spvggunterhaching.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.fussballwurst.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/spvggunterhaching.png</a> ) will tell you the story of their club and so on.</p>
<p>The franchises just needed to get away from words such as Fury and Glory, it&#8217;s like American people naming their kids with the characteristics that they want them to have when they grow up, there is a whole generation of girls named &#8220;Hope&#8221;, &#8220;Charity&#8221;, &#8220;Honor&#8221; etc.</p>
<p>Sometimes marketing people have their place in sport, other times they just ruin it. The naming of A-League clubs certainly falls in the second category, I bet they listed of possible newspaper puns while coming up with the names and used it as part of their decision.</p>
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		<title>By: jmo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/19/the-a-league-of-silly-club-nicknames/#comment-249357</link>
		<dc:creator>jmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just watched the news report on France vs Ireland and forget the hand ball by Henry, that&#039;s just a bad miss by the ref, what about when Nicolas Anelka tripped over nothing more than a sunbeam in the penalty zone. A Sunbeam ! !  It was ten times uglier than the hand ball. His team should be called The Sunbeams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched the news report on France vs Ireland and forget the hand ball by Henry, that&#8217;s just a bad miss by the ref, what about when Nicolas Anelka tripped over nothing more than a sunbeam in the penalty zone. A Sunbeam ! !  It was ten times uglier than the hand ball. His team should be called The Sunbeams.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/19/the-a-league-of-silly-club-nicknames/#comment-249352</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t beleive Fire Sharks is still available for an Australian team.

I do doubt though that in 100 years people will be talking about the latest expansion team with the likes of &quot;why couldn&#039;t they go for a traditional name like Fury&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t beleive Fire Sharks is still available for an Australian team.</p>
<p>I do doubt though that in 100 years people will be talking about the latest expansion team with the likes of &#8220;why couldn&#8217;t they go for a traditional name like Fury&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/19/the-a-league-of-silly-club-nicknames/#comment-249349</link>
		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Port Adelaide have led the way.  Hire a seven year old, problem solved. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Port Adelaide have led the way.  Hire a seven year old, problem solved. <img src='http://www.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SImone`</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/19/the-a-league-of-silly-club-nicknames/#comment-249341</link>
		<dc:creator>SImone`</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The captain planet comment was hilarious... The rest of this article was just silly... &quot;Local Fauna&quot; -&gt; seriously?

Tink we need more Euro traditional football names, such as Sporting, Atletic etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The captain planet comment was hilarious&#8230; The rest of this article was just silly&#8230; &#8220;Local Fauna&#8221; -&gt; seriously?</p>
<p>Tink we need more Euro traditional football names, such as Sporting, Atletic etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In general I don&#039;t have a problem with the names.  They are contemporary in that the trend at the moment is to use &#039;ethereal type&#039; names, it used to be that teams were named after animals - in many cases just as meaningless, or parent companies. 

Virtually any name is prone to sound contrived even if you are aiming for instant tradition like wanderers or rovers (what century are we in?). 

The attachment and appreciation for the names will only come with time - more quickly with team success.  I&#039;ve heard many people comment that the Melbourne Heart should keep the name now as that&#039;s what they have been referred to since they were vying for the license. And yet the name was ridiculed originally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In general I don&#8217;t have a problem with the names.  They are contemporary in that the trend at the moment is to use &#8216;ethereal type&#8217; names, it used to be that teams were named after animals &#8211; in many cases just as meaningless, or parent companies. </p>
<p>Virtually any name is prone to sound contrived even if you are aiming for instant tradition like wanderers or rovers (what century are we in?). </p>
<p>The attachment and appreciation for the names will only come with time &#8211; more quickly with team success.  I&#8217;ve heard many people comment that the Melbourne Heart should keep the name now as that&#8217;s what they have been referred to since they were vying for the license. And yet the name was ridiculed originally.</p>
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		<title>By: sheek</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Mr Sports, the A-League probably has the &quot;stupidest collection of team names&quot;.

Roar was formally Brisbane Lions, before Fitzroy Lions became Brisbane, BTW. But the AFL successfully argued they were the bigger name team (before A-League) &amp; you couldn&#039;t have two &#039;Brisbane Lions&#039;. So Roar it became. Fair enough there, as far as having only one Brisbane Lions is concerned.

John O&#039;Neill recently suggested the Melbourne S15 franchise find another name apart from Rebels, as historically, it gave the impression of being anti-establishment. Of course, the real reason appears to be O&#039;Neill&#039;s desire to wash away any trace of the previous ARC &amp; administration before he returned.

Someone else suggested the reason why we have the ethereal type names - Heart, Glory, Victory, Fury, etc - is so we don&#039;t offend anyone in a highly litigatious world. Frankly, it&#039;s a cop-out as usual, but there you have it.

As for Socceroos, it will probably become an anachronism, not that it is really such a bad handle. The Socceroos have the opportunity to change to Footyroos, although i suspect some smarty has put a patent on it. I thought you couldn&#039;t do that sort of thing anymore?

So there&#039;s always Emus. Anyway, no major team sport is officially called the Emus, &amp; it is our national bird. Like the Kangaroo, it can&#039;t walk backwards (retreat) naturally. It is also an aggressive, pesty animal, &amp; can &quot;run the pants off a kangaroo-roo-roo&quot;. 

Good qualities for players in a national team to have! Won&#039;t retreat, never surrenders, niggles their opponents, &amp; outflanks them in the process!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Mr Sports, the A-League probably has the &#8220;stupidest collection of team names&#8221;.</p>
<p>Roar was formally Brisbane Lions, before Fitzroy Lions became Brisbane, BTW. But the AFL successfully argued they were the bigger name team (before A-League) &amp; you couldn&#8217;t have two &#8216;Brisbane Lions&#8217;. So Roar it became. Fair enough there, as far as having only one Brisbane Lions is concerned.</p>
<p>John O&#8217;Neill recently suggested the Melbourne S15 franchise find another name apart from Rebels, as historically, it gave the impression of being anti-establishment. Of course, the real reason appears to be O&#8217;Neill&#8217;s desire to wash away any trace of the previous ARC &amp; administration before he returned.</p>
<p>Someone else suggested the reason why we have the ethereal type names &#8211; Heart, Glory, Victory, Fury, etc &#8211; is so we don&#8217;t offend anyone in a highly litigatious world. Frankly, it&#8217;s a cop-out as usual, but there you have it.</p>
<p>As for Socceroos, it will probably become an anachronism, not that it is really such a bad handle. The Socceroos have the opportunity to change to Footyroos, although i suspect some smarty has put a patent on it. I thought you couldn&#8217;t do that sort of thing anymore?</p>
<p>So there&#8217;s always Emus. Anyway, no major team sport is officially called the Emus, &amp; it is our national bird. Like the Kangaroo, it can&#8217;t walk backwards (retreat) naturally. It is also an aggressive, pesty animal, &amp; can &#8220;run the pants off a kangaroo-roo-roo&#8221;. </p>
<p>Good qualities for players in a national team to have! Won&#8217;t retreat, never surrenders, niggles their opponents, &amp; outflanks them in the process!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We have a Glory, a Roar, a Fury, a Victory, and presumably with the addition of Heart, they will be able to form Captain Planet.&quot; - Great line, the first time I&#039;ve actually laughed while reading the Roar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We have a Glory, a Roar, a Fury, a Victory, and presumably with the addition of Heart, they will be able to form Captain Planet.&#8221; &#8211; Great line, the first time I&#8217;ve actually laughed while reading the Roar.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind Glory, Victory or Heart at all. I agree they are from the &quot;new school&quot; of team names, but I like them. The less said about Roar and Fury the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind Glory, Victory or Heart at all. I agree they are from the &#8220;new school&#8221; of team names, but I like them. The less said about Roar and Fury the better.</p>
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		<title>By: albe</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/19/the-a-league-of-silly-club-nicknames/#comment-248982</link>
		<dc:creator>albe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Socceroos aka Australia ... its a nickname, that is all. Most world football nations have them, no big deal. For me they&#039;ll always be &#039;Australia&#039; first and foremost. 

As for the rest of the league, we have a decent mix of names. Some traditional, some not so much.</description>
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<p>As for the rest of the league, we have a decent mix of names. Some traditional, some not so much.</p>
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