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		<title>By: Stalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well put Pete....</description>
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		<title>By: Stalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The wallabies were crap before Deans turned up. They are just not listening to him and there is no depth to punish the players who choose to keep taking their pay without playing to their ability. Time and time again, we hear - &quot;blame the coach&quot; what a load of....... but... dont worry, Mr Deans will probably leave or be pushed soon, then who are you going to blame? Maybe the new Melbourne coach will step up - whoever that is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wallabies were crap before Deans turned up. They are just not listening to him and there is no depth to punish the players who choose to keep taking their pay without playing to their ability. Time and time again, we hear &#8211; &#8220;blame the coach&#8221; what a load of&#8230;&#8230;. but&#8230; dont worry, Mr Deans will probably leave or be pushed soon, then who are you going to blame? Maybe the new Melbourne coach will step up &#8211; whoever that is?</p>
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		<title>By: Stalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nup. Losing ugly still</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nup. Losing ugly still</p>
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		<title>By: Dublin Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dublin Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was watching Ireland Fiji on telly and &quot;keeping an eye&quot; on other games via teletext. The score from Murrayfiled seemed to be stuck permanently at 3-3 so I figured there was something wrong with the system or the person sending in the score up dates had disappeared to the bar. 

Then I saw the result was 9-8?? Is that the lowest scoring Australian match in decades? 

Based on the evidence of the match against Ireland last week, it seems to me that Deans is trying to build a winning pack of forwards for Australia. Once he has that in place, he may try to win using a more structured and conservative game or he may try and combine it with some exciting back playsuch as that which Australians were famous for in the past, but in the meantime, a bit like a golfer changing his swing, the Australian backs are being ignored as an attacking force while the main effort is concentrated elsewhere. 

That is as charitable an outlook as can be made at this time. 

But let&#039;s not discount the possibility that Scotland are actually beginning to find a team again. As was noted in the thread about team&#039;s histories, fallow periods tend to give way to better times if you can keep the faith with your game. Certainly, in the case of the Scots, some good fortune has been a long time coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was watching Ireland Fiji on telly and &#8220;keeping an eye&#8221; on other games via teletext. The score from Murrayfiled seemed to be stuck permanently at 3-3 so I figured there was something wrong with the system or the person sending in the score up dates had disappeared to the bar. </p>
<p>Then I saw the result was 9-8?? Is that the lowest scoring Australian match in decades? </p>
<p>Based on the evidence of the match against Ireland last week, it seems to me that Deans is trying to build a winning pack of forwards for Australia. Once he has that in place, he may try to win using a more structured and conservative game or he may try and combine it with some exciting back playsuch as that which Australians were famous for in the past, but in the meantime, a bit like a golfer changing his swing, the Australian backs are being ignored as an attacking force while the main effort is concentrated elsewhere. </p>
<p>That is as charitable an outlook as can be made at this time. </p>
<p>But let&#8217;s not discount the possibility that Scotland are actually beginning to find a team again. As was noted in the thread about team&#8217;s histories, fallow periods tend to give way to better times if you can keep the faith with your game. Certainly, in the case of the Scots, some good fortune has been a long time coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred, but is the answer to throw out the coach? The Wallabies are in a precarious position. The team is inexperienced (not an excuse for losing) and believe it or not Deans does have a plan for the development towards 2011.  If we throw everything out now and start again with a new coaching staff we are stuffed even more than what we are now. 
Eddie Jones has a poor record as well, so we threw him out and brought in Connolly... and then we delivered our worse RWC performance despite having cattle like Gregan, Larkham, Latham, Mortlock, Tiquiri, Waugh, Smith, McMeniman, Elsom, Vickerman and Sharpe. 
The players have to adapt to a new coaching philosophy, a new playing style and the new dynamics of the team structure because the hierarchy is altered. I am far from happy with how the Wallabies have developed under Deans. In hindsight perhaps he tried to change too much too quickly, but they were decisions that had to be made. If we undo this now and bring in someone else we will drop further and further back. 
For better or worse this is what we have. It will bear fruit its just taking a hell of a lot longer than any of us (especially Deans) had planned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred, but is the answer to throw out the coach? The Wallabies are in a precarious position. The team is inexperienced (not an excuse for losing) and believe it or not Deans does have a plan for the development towards 2011.  If we throw everything out now and start again with a new coaching staff we are stuffed even more than what we are now.<br />
Eddie Jones has a poor record as well, so we threw him out and brought in Connolly&#8230; and then we delivered our worse RWC performance despite having cattle like Gregan, Larkham, Latham, Mortlock, Tiquiri, Waugh, Smith, McMeniman, Elsom, Vickerman and Sharpe.<br />
The players have to adapt to a new coaching philosophy, a new playing style and the new dynamics of the team structure because the hierarchy is altered. I am far from happy with how the Wallabies have developed under Deans. In hindsight perhaps he tried to change too much too quickly, but they were decisions that had to be made. If we undo this now and bring in someone else we will drop further and further back.<br />
For better or worse this is what we have. It will bear fruit its just taking a hell of a lot longer than any of us (especially Deans) had planned.</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FIKE,yes its still a shock even tho the writing has been on the wall clouded by those in denial.i agree with MT that we will have the optimists/apologists spinning us more BS suggesting no one could coach the wallabies to success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FIKE,yes its still a shock even tho the writing has been on the wall clouded by those in denial.i agree with MT that we will have the optimists/apologists spinning us more BS suggesting no one could coach the wallabies to success.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr cheese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr cheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Touche</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Touche</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>promising to lose all his patronage and sponsors cos 6 wins out of 26  sent them to league.deans is promising-----------</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>promising to lose all his patronage and sponsors cos 6 wins out of 26  sent them to league.deans is promising&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pete ;who actually coaches the lineout.the backs(62% possession)what does deans coach apart from telling us about the reality of the situation and the need for clarity he appears to hide behind the youth movement and denigrating senior players who in his opinion are not performing.can he only perform when he has all the aces,if so ,then imho he is not the solution and totally overrated</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pete ;who actually coaches the lineout.the backs(62% possession)what does deans coach apart from telling us about the reality of the situation and the need for clarity he appears to hide behind the youth movement and denigrating senior players who in his opinion are not performing.can he only perform when he has all the aces,if so ,then imho he is not the solution and totally overrated</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mitch, yes you nailed it in one R.DEANS ;look no further</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mitch, yes you nailed it in one R.DEANS ;look no further</p>
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		<title>By: mother teresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>mother teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KINGWHO,absolute nonsense,oneill doesnt coach.what youre effectively saying is if vickerman and mcm were playing deans would actually win.what if either got injured are we back to square one and out looking for another supercoach to develop and coach the wallies.and MCM DOES GET INJURED--CORRECT.
how much more delusion is there out there supporting the unsupportable
NOW WE WILL HEAR THE CATTLE CRY AGAIN;PITIFUL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KINGWHO,absolute nonsense,oneill doesnt coach.what youre effectively saying is if vickerman and mcm were playing deans would actually win.what if either got injured are we back to square one and out looking for another supercoach to develop and coach the wallies.and MCM DOES GET INJURED&#8211;CORRECT.<br />
how much more delusion is there out there supporting the unsupportable<br />
NOW WE WILL HEAR THE CATTLE CRY AGAIN;PITIFUL</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vickerman left because he wanted a life after Rugby. Tahu left because he was struggling and was coerced back to League by Osbourne. McMenniman was chasing coin. Lote is the only one that could be directly attributed to JON. I&#039;m a fan of Lote, but one man can&#039;t make a team.
If we had Barnes, Sharpe or Mortlock we probably could have won... surely your not going to blame JON for that as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vickerman left because he wanted a life after Rugby. Tahu left because he was struggling and was coerced back to League by Osbourne. McMenniman was chasing coin. Lote is the only one that could be directly attributed to JON. I&#8217;m a fan of Lote, but one man can&#8217;t make a team.<br />
If we had Barnes, Sharpe or Mortlock we probably could have won&#8230; surely your not going to blame JON for that as well?</p>
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		<title>By: MM Fike</title>
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		<dc:creator>MM Fike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible we will win only one match on this tour? I think it is.

We wont get anywhere until we have one world class lock and one very good one. We need two top locks .

And yeah, I&#039;m still in shock at this loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible we will win only one match on this tour? I think it is.</p>
<p>We wont get anywhere until we have one world class lock and one very good one. We need two top locks .</p>
<p>And yeah, I&#8217;m still in shock at this loss.</p>
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		<title>By: kingplaymaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>kingplaymaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re all off the point: Neither Deans nor Giteau were responsible for this disaster:

John O&#039;Neill has removed Dan Vickerman last year, Lote Tuqiri, Timana Tahu, and Hugh Mcmenniman this year. 

With those players Australia would not have lost this or other matches this year.

O&#039;Neill is the guilty party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re all off the point: Neither Deans nor Giteau were responsible for this disaster:</p>
<p>John O&#8217;Neill has removed Dan Vickerman last year, Lote Tuqiri, Timana Tahu, and Hugh Mcmenniman this year. </p>
<p>With those players Australia would not have lost this or other matches this year.</p>
<p>O&#8217;Neill is the guilty party.</p>
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		<title>By: Blinky Bill from Bellingen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blinky Bill from Bellingen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow I am happy I got up for that match or what?

First of all well done Scotland. 

What happened to the Wallabies? Initially I kind of expected Robbie to field his B team. Just as well as we didn&#039;t. The one positive to come out of it is that Scotland will quite rightly know they beat our best, and that&#039;s going to be a good shot in the arm for Scottish Rugby.

Scotland played well enough but didn&#039;t we just bugger up when ever possible? Ahhhk Mun ..... back to bed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow I am happy I got up for that match or what?</p>
<p>First of all well done Scotland. </p>
<p>What happened to the Wallabies? Initially I kind of expected Robbie to field his B team. Just as well as we didn&#8217;t. The one positive to come out of it is that Scotland will quite rightly know they beat our best, and that&#8217;s going to be a good shot in the arm for Scottish Rugby.</p>
<p>Scotland played well enough but didn&#8217;t we just bugger up when ever possible? Ahhhk Mun &#8230;.. back to bed.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But imagine how poor we would be without him in the team. We&#039;re lucky to have him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But imagine how poor we would be without him in the team. We&#8217;re lucky to have him.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not angry, just in a state of utter shock. Well done Scotland
My first thought is that the coaching staff have to go, but I hope that isn&#039;t what happens. We&#039;ll try and rebuild again and hope for the best in 2011. We&#039;d ultimately do much more harm than good.

Cooper took poor options, the outside backs couldn&#039;t finish and Giteau had a poor game with the point scoring boot. Another case of &#039;if only&#039;.

The only positive to come out of this is I hope it renews interest in the game in Scotland. Australia has taken a big hit, but hopefully the Scots can profit for the good of the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not angry, just in a state of utter shock. Well done Scotland<br />
My first thought is that the coaching staff have to go, but I hope that isn&#8217;t what happens. We&#8217;ll try and rebuild again and hope for the best in 2011. We&#8217;d ultimately do much more harm than good.</p>
<p>Cooper took poor options, the outside backs couldn&#8217;t finish and Giteau had a poor game with the point scoring boot. Another case of &#8216;if only&#8217;.</p>
<p>The only positive to come out of this is I hope it renews interest in the game in Scotland. Australia has taken a big hit, but hopefully the Scots can profit for the good of the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One R. Deans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One R. Deans</p>
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		<title>By: MM Fike</title>
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		<dc:creator>MM Fike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really honestly, what is wrong with this Wallaby team? I give up.

Anyway congratulations to Scotland. They deserved the win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really honestly, what is wrong with this Wallaby team? I give up.</p>
<p>Anyway congratulations to Scotland. They deserved the win.</p>
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		<title>By: Damo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Giteau may not be overrated. He may just be unsupported (and out of position as many have argued). We badly miss the silky skills of a Larkham or on Ella . I don&#039;t care if we make one or buy one. We just have to get one even if he happened to play  a game without lineouts or rucks before he saw the light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Giteau may not be overrated. He may just be unsupported (and out of position as many have argued). We badly miss the silky skills of a Larkham or on Ella . I don&#8217;t care if we make one or buy one. We just have to get one even if he happened to play  a game without lineouts or rucks before he saw the light.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt0931</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt0931</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I saw him crap his pants when he was lining up for that conversion kick. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I saw him crap his pants when he was lining up for that conversion kick. <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Matt0931</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt0931</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, just stiring pothale!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, just stiring pothale!</p>
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		<title>By: Benny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giteau - most overrated player in any rugby code in history. Just continues to choke in big moments but remains untouchable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giteau &#8211; most overrated player in any rugby code in history. Just continues to choke in big moments but remains untouchable.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great gutsy win against the odds to Scotland.

One very blatant tactic adopted by the Australian scrum was to prematurely wheel on Scotland&#039;s feeds.

Law 20.1 (k) states:

Stationary and parallel. Until the ball leaves the scrum half’s hands, the scrum must be stationary and the middle line must be parallel to the goal lines. 

The Australian pack was systematically shifting left meaning they were neither stationary nor parallel before the ball was put into the scrum. That this was a deliberate tactic was made obvious by the fact that the Wallabies stayed square whenever the referee moved to the non-feed side of the scrum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great gutsy win against the odds to Scotland.</p>
<p>One very blatant tactic adopted by the Australian scrum was to prematurely wheel on Scotland&#8217;s feeds.</p>
<p>Law 20.1 (k) states:</p>
<p>Stationary and parallel. Until the ball leaves the scrum half’s hands, the scrum must be stationary and the middle line must be parallel to the goal lines. </p>
<p>The Australian pack was systematically shifting left meaning they were neither stationary nor parallel before the ball was put into the scrum. That this was a deliberate tactic was made obvious by the fact that the Wallabies stayed square whenever the referee moved to the non-feed side of the scrum.</p>
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		<title>By: pothale</title>
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		<dc:creator>pothale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well - the NH teams are the ones meant to be playing the kick-infested, dour NH game according to SH commentators, and we will have to look to the SH sides to see running, exciting rugby is what we&#039;ve been told.

Don&#039;t let me stop you.  Keep kicking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well &#8211; the NH teams are the ones meant to be playing the kick-infested, dour NH game according to SH commentators, and we will have to look to the SH sides to see running, exciting rugby is what we&#8217;ve been told.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let me stop you.  Keep kicking.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt0931</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt0931</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a good win to Ireland. I was flicking between matches. Ireland played well.


What is it with KO&#039;s and Pothale&#039;s fascination with SH kicking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a good win to Ireland. I was flicking between matches. Ireland played well.</p>
<p>What is it with KO&#8217;s and Pothale&#8217;s fascination with SH kicking?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank O'Keeffe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank O'Keeffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually yeah, the ref was fantastic. It&#039;s one of the few times this year I hardly noticed the ref at all.

Anyway is this what happens when Giteau kicks well from hand - his place kicking goes astray?

Hopefully Palu is OK. I badly hurt my neck during a rugby game - fluke injuries happen all the time. Palu&#039;s neck took a hell of a lot of brunt in that moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually yeah, the ref was fantastic. It&#8217;s one of the few times this year I hardly noticed the ref at all.</p>
<p>Anyway is this what happens when Giteau kicks well from hand &#8211; his place kicking goes astray?</p>
<p>Hopefully Palu is OK. I badly hurt my neck during a rugby game &#8211; fluke injuries happen all the time. Palu&#8217;s neck took a hell of a lot of brunt in that moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt0931</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt0931</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palu was having a cracker before he took his knock.

Hopefully he is not seriously injured</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palu was having a cracker before he took his knock.</p>
<p>Hopefully he is not seriously injured</p>
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		<title>By: pothale</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/21/wallabies-ready-to-win-ugly-in-soggy-edinburgh/comment-page-2/#comment-251236</link>
		<dc:creator>pothale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic result by Scotland - well done to them.  Am very pleased for Andy Robinson.  Good start to the year for them - two wins under their belt against SH opposition.  

Australia is not the only team that has gone to Edinburgh thinking they&#039;ll get an easy win - even whilst downplaying it in public.

Just back from RDS and Ireland walloping Fiji even in the pouring rain, but plenty of running rugby from the boys in green, Fiji were kicking it for a lot of the game - what is it with SH teams and this kicking fascination?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic result by Scotland &#8211; well done to them.  Am very pleased for Andy Robinson.  Good start to the year for them &#8211; two wins under their belt against SH opposition.  </p>
<p>Australia is not the only team that has gone to Edinburgh thinking they&#8217;ll get an easy win &#8211; even whilst downplaying it in public.</p>
<p>Just back from RDS and Ireland walloping Fiji even in the pouring rain, but plenty of running rugby from the boys in green, Fiji were kicking it for a lot of the game &#8211; what is it with SH teams and this kicking fascination?</p>
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		<title>By: Damo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said before the game that we were missing Mortlock (to mark O&#039;Driscoll etc) We are. And we don&#039;t have anyone like him coming through. Literally coming through the centre. But Scotland did defend extremely well. They did deserve the win . Ref was good . We have run out of ideas in the backs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said before the game that we were missing Mortlock (to mark O&#8217;Driscoll etc) We are. And we don&#8217;t have anyone like him coming through. Literally coming through the centre. But Scotland did defend extremely well. They did deserve the win . Ref was good . We have run out of ideas in the backs</p>
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