Granted also that non-tests are a good place to find a teams depth (obviously quite shallow based on the results, which should be a bit of a concern).

Sorry – provincial games don’t count when compered to internationals (Currie Cup or NPC) – its a different beast.

The Boks have been accused of taking the foot of the pedal in the second halves – and dropping games when they “supposedly” don’t count for much. That’s a bad trend. It also shows a soft underbelly.

A champion mentality should show no mercy for provincial sides or lesser opponents – it will add to the teams mojo and instill a fear factor (look how teams like Ireland and Wales react when they play NZ).

Dropping those games had the opposite effect – those in the SH had a good old snigger at your expense (it would have been the laughing stock of the month if Scotland hadn’t trumped Aussie)

What you say about pulling on the jumper rings true, these were “the Springboks”, which is, I suppose what gets to some people. Personally, a bunch of substandard players dropping a few games doesn’t worry me too much.

As for the free press of the world, Peter most likely couldn’t give two hoots being belittled by them as they already do so anyway.

Pulling on the jumper is a profound responsibility regardless of who your playing. Never is it meaningless.

Beats the heck out of me why Bok supporters don’t mind losing 2 games in a row to provincial sides.

Oh well, if your happy about that and don’t mind, then who am I to say it matters….

Though it did highlight the 2009 myth of the springbok “greatness” tag.

So – Henry, after a horror start to the season, has been the only coach able to manage and incubate his team’s mojo.

What has Deans done to the Wallabies mojo? At the moment its on the endangered species list….

Deans can’t manage his bench well at all – and he’s been caught out more than once.

I thought Australia played well against Ireland – and Deans saved face then – but the same team fielded displayed this effort?

Current form I could understand a loss to England, France or Ireland…but Scotland!!!!

Deans is an excellent provincial coach – but there is something seriously amiss here and it is costing the Wallabies their reputation (as an AB supporter I have for many years dreaded playing Australia – but not anymore).

Surely a loss to Wales will find Deans falling on his sword.

Not having Barnes on tour has meant our kicking game has suffered. While that’s not the panacea to all our problems I believe field goals would have at least pulled us clear of Ireland and Scotland.

Lastly, we need someone who is a leader by more than name and strategically dictates the game – when to attack, when to defend and when to take field goal options when it’s close.

Just a few thoughts…..

They’ve learned a harsh lesson.

Roll on Wales, and avoid the endless analysis and post-mortems on this match.