A new shot of ELVs: The Concord Laws
By rugbyfuture, 23 Nov 2009 rugbyfuture is a Roar Guru
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- ELVs, IRB, Law Variations, Rugby Union
From this current spring tour I just read an article over on Rugby Heaven, telling of how the northern hemisphere is starting to wake up to the problem with rugby today.
As a person who chooses sides and is stubborn about it I hope, one day, the IRB will wake up and listen to the public, implementing some form of ELV’s. Many professionals however had a problem with the last set put forward.
For the consideration of the Roar’s crowd, I have tried to look at and understand the current ELV’s and tried to alleviate some of the problems seen by those opposed to the laws, as well as fix some more contemporary issues.
I have tried to contain differences between the forwards and backs, whilst making it a progressive and flowing game at the same time.
These new laws are based on varying the original ELV’s and if I get some of these ideas wrong, pardon, but I only played for my school’s lowest team as a tighthead prop.
The Concord Laws (named for the failed NSWRU stadium in Sydney…and a bit of pizazz):
• Players must come into the breakdown in an onside position, and only players who are on their feet are allowed to play the ball, which can only be handled with hands if it, or the arms of the player carrying it, have not touched the ground.
• The ball if not recycled in play is given to the last team seen handling it. If this cannot be seen it is given to the opposing side.
• At the scrum, all backs except for the two scrum-halves must be at least 5 metres behind the hindmost foot of the scrum, instead of level with it as allowed in the current laws.
• At the lineout, all players not in the lineout except for the two scrum-halves and hooker must be at least 5 metres behind the lineout.
• In the lineout either side can use as many forwards as they like, providing they fit between the 5-metre line and the 15-metre line.
• The opposing hooker in a lineout has to stand between the 5-metre line and touchline.
• On a quick throw in the ball can be thrown straight or back towards the defenders’ goal line, but not forwards towards the opposition goal line.
• Where touch judges are trained referees, they will be referred to as assistant referees, with responsibility for policing the offside lines.
• Penalty kicks are generally to be given only for offside and foul play. Most other penalties will become free kicks (disallowing placed), with the option of taking a scrum as in the current laws, which cannot be used for a kick at goal or a dropped goal.
• If the ball is passed or run back into the 22 and then kicked out on the full before a tackle, ruck or maul is effected, the resulting lineout is taken from where the kick was made. However, if the kick bounces into touch, the lineout is taken from where the ball went into touch, as in the present laws.
• The maul cannot be collapsed by defending sides without incurring a penalty if the forward momentum of the attacking side has been neutralised or reversed.
• The corner flag, currently situated where the try line meets the touchline, is part of the field of play. Under the current laws, a try is disallowed if a player touches the corner flag while attempting to touch the ball down.
• A kick at goal, in any occasion counts as 2 points. Rather than the current 3 for a penalty goals or drop goals.
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oikee said | November 23rd 2009 @ 11:07am | Report comment
The corner flag law is a no-no. They are trying to get rid of that law in rugby league. Most of them are common sense laws, which i would hope already happen in union. All these laws you have shown me, is why union is so fascinating to rugby union followers.
Myself, i only have time to watch a game without worrying about “who did what wrong and why they lost”, life is to short.
Rugby union at the present time could be a great spectator sport, but by dropping 2 players, would be, so much closer to(rugby league) and the defeatists would never forgive you.
Cheers. Enjoy your rugby.
rugbyfuture said | November 23rd 2009 @ 12:43pm | Report comment
sorry i never said id drop two players, many of these laws are changed or offset from the original ELV’s to hold closer to the game of rugby and simplify some of these laws, but i understand the complex laws of rugby union are one of the things people find dismissive of it in australia, thanks for your feedback though
Jokerman said | November 23rd 2009 @ 2:23pm | Report comment
Currently the law states you have to be 5 meters back from the scrum, and hitting the corner flag under today laws does not matter. Do your homework cuz..!!
rugbyfuture said | November 23rd 2009 @ 3:28pm | Report comment
as i said, they’re based off critiqueing and re-evaluating the ELV’s not the current laws
Jerry said | November 27th 2009 @ 6:41pm | Report comment
Those laws are the current laws though, they’re no longer experimental – hence not ELVs.
And I don’t see how cutting the offside line at the lineout to 5m would achieve other than cutting down attacking opportunities. The numbers in the lineout ELV was basically a failure as it simply meant that in short lineouts, the defending team could station a couple of guys who’d break from the lineout as soon as possible and make a beeline for the first receiver – again cutting down on attacking oportunities.
Pete said | November 23rd 2009 @ 5:28pm | Report comment
I would like the 5m law to be extended to the ruck as well. Those on the defending team who are not bound to the ruck need to be 5m back. Paint 5m lines on the field (similar to NFL) so the ref has an easy point of reference. Repeated infringements leads to 5minutes in the bin. Its the 5:5 rule. Open up the space on the field for the backs to run!
Jerry said | November 27th 2009 @ 6:45pm | Report comment
I like that idea, but I think it might be a bit hard to enforce. For instance, what about someone coming forward for a pick and go or to receive a short pass? They’d actually be offside.