Comments on: Double try option has NRL future, says Bennett

By: Dave1

Dave1 — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:42:35 +0000

Its not only for big occasions. Homebush averge crowds are bigger than any other ground in Sydney.

Only lang park and gold coast’s are bigger in the NRL

By: Dave1

Dave1 — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:17:53 +0000

instead of a lineout make the game more afl like AFL and get the linesman to throw it in.

By: Jaredsbro

Jaredsbro — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:56:32 +0000

Only for big occasions. One thing Sydneysiders seem to want is good old fashioned (afternoon ) footy like it used to be played. But there’s only so much golden age rhetoric a fan should be able to stomach in my opinion. But as Oikee keeps saying the game is great for atmosphere, thus smaller grounds, more mexican waves in denser spaces etc lead ti a better experience

I love both options, and both options need to be maximised to ensure we get maximum crowds…

By: Dan

Dan — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:56:22 +0000

Why are they bad exactly? They’re certainly better than simply having a scrum for everything (especially a non-contested scrum). You could even make the line-outs more “league-like” by allowing the hooker to throw the ball almost directly to his man… wouldn’t be much different to the feeding of the ball into the second row that they do in scrums now.

By: Dave1

Dave1 — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:54:27 +0000

the punters have moved on from suburban grounds. Its all about Homebush now

http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/2009.html

By: Jaredsbro

Jaredsbro — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:33:08 +0000

Perfect…maybe in your opinion Oikee (and I do value it of course ) but much of Sydney obviously thinks otherwise as suburban grounds did not appear full all of the time which means there’s room for improvement. But in terms of the rules, the forward play seems less creative than even a few years ago when the Broncos last won the title (with Origin uber-Forwards of course) maybe the 4 point conversion will lead to smarter forward (play) Gus wants it so well maybe?

By: M1tch

M1tch — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:34:19 +0000

How is this becoming the NFL?
Some people cant help but whinge everytime the NRL tries something different, back in the 60′s I bet you would have complained about going to the 4 tackle rule because that was NFL esk.

By: rusty

rusty — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:22:01 +0000

Every year the proposed rule changes get more ridiculous and the double try is as stupid as it gets. They should be doing everything they can to avoid becoming more like the NFL.

By: oikee

oikee — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:26:59 +0000

Sorry, the game is perfect, so any rules changes can now be looked at and thought about, which is what rugby league is doing. Just to understand how strong the game really is going, the confidence of the NRL to showcase the Indigernous game,? We have the players to be able to do this.
Another high-light to me was the Kangaroo Kiwis 4 nation game in England played at the stoop. What a game that was, and the rivalry and joy both sets of fans showed at the game was something to behold. The comments that come from other neutrals at the game allows you to know we had delivered something special to the game played in London.

I will say it again, i am not dreaming, i am living my dream now. Roll on 2010.

By: Jaredsbro

Jaredsbro — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:22:39 +0000

It’s actually good to have a code which cares (or rather is not deceived into not thinking) about making the game better. Now sure RL had more problems than Aussie rules (and I mention this as Aussie rules fans/players seem adamant that their game as a set of rules cannot get any better: what about the anarchy of the Aussie rules play the ball rule, one might hear me subtly murmur )

Reading some of the comments on here makes me feel like I WANT to patronise RL more if the people on this site are to be believed

By: Springs

Springs — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:16:51 +0000

Very strange post. The NRL is perfect, yet you want all these strange innovations so we can get more TV money. Whatever.

By: Bulldog

Bulldog — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:08:14 +0000

The problem with 3 x 30 minutes or 4 x 20 minutes rather than 2 halfs of 40 minutes is there is a chance you will get less tries or break outs as the defence is less fatigued. The good thing about the current format is that late in the half a team with greater fitness gets an advantage.

By: Dave1

Dave1 — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:01:57 +0000

4 quarter’s of 20mins each works for AFL

By: Dave1

Dave1 — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:59:04 +0000

Who would they be holding a grudge against? They sided with the Nazis. I think someone might be holding a grudge against them but.

By: Dave1

Dave1 — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:56:52 +0000

Line outs are one of the worst things in Union. League doesn’t need them and Union should get rid of them.

By: Dave1

Dave1 — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:51:02 +0000

The good thing about league, is that if even if a particular game is boring, its still over in 80 minutes.

They shouldn’t increases the time of the game.

By: oikee

oikee — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:50:34 +0000

The oikster will never wake-up from his dream, i am living it now. The NRL is perfect, 1st time in over 30 years.

By: Springs

Springs — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:49:47 +0000

Yes it does sound familiar. Good to hear you would help out the juniors and the bush. Well done.

By: The Link

The Link — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:41:17 +0000

Your posts are getting even more bizzare. Your faux outrage is wasted energy on a League thread.

Surely you see the irony of a Rugby fan bemoing a game for trialling rules when you’ve just gone through the ELV’s.

I am failing to see the logic of if you prefer a certain football code then it automatically cannot amend or improve its rules in anyway shape or form.

By: oikee

oikee — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:19:49 +0000

Ok, so the times really only effect the NRL games, and Toyota cup, good . Besides, i thought the major issue with kids are weight. We need to introduce weight systems again. And that could be a good starting point,
A Commission will help the game grow more, the needs of bush rugby are not being met by the ARL, i can see they are trying their best, but to be honest, i think they have 2 much on their plate and they are so outta date. Dinosaurs running the game, sound fimilar?

Anyhow, sit tight, the 1st thing the new board needs to do is get bush footy and junior footy sorted out. This would be the 1st job if i was on the board. Government funding would be my priority.

By: Springs

Springs — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:29:39 +0000

And there will be 100 thousand fans evry game. And Wollongong will be playing Western Sydney Uni on their massive on-campus stadium. And don’t forget the tight pants.

By: Springs

Springs — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:26:34 +0000

If you knew about Juniors at the moment you would know that 7-10s are 15 min halves. 11-14s are 20 min halves, sometimes expanding to 25 or 30. U16s only play 30 minute halves. U18s have 35 minute halves. If you increase the games by 20 minutes you are going to see scores like 62-54, or 100-22, etc. U18s games were already averaging 60-70 points a game, whilst playing only 70 minutes. Ist Grade out here also averages 50-70 points a game. The 2008 GF was 40-36.
The NRL barely does anything for the bush. But i don’t expect them to, that’s for the CRL, NSWRL and the ARL. They are letting smaller clubs and comps die. The NRL can get more money with the game we have now. And my comps not dying, its DEAD. We had eight clubs, down to five in ’06. Dead in ’07. Reseve grade died in ’02. Haven’t had juniors since the early 90s.

By: oikee

oikee — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:01:17 +0000

Thats where your wrong, rugby league will get bigger t/v deals if they have more add time, now consider my 3×30, for junior rugby league you can cut that back to 2×30, as you move up towards becoming more professional, it increases to 3×30. Under 16′s up.
Now with more money, the NRL can “pimp” some into the grass-roots, not that this is not happening, but if they can also get government funds attached to this deal, will kick start all those dying clubs in the bush. I have seen this 1st hand myself. I went to Texas and bush rugby league survives mainly by the locals who play the game. So funding would be a welcome friend.
Anyhow, 2010 looks like its going to be a good year, i have already put the squeese on the wife for more live games next year, so i will be playing my part. Again we have a double headed at sunny corp, plus a 4 nation final, also have to make a trip to Melbourne for a storm game and check out the new stadium. To top it off might go to Sydney for a origin game, cant get tickets to brisbane. Should be a good year.

By: MyGeneration

MyGeneration — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:45:45 +0000

Oikee, if Aussies are smart, which I think we are (sometimes), we’ll take the good bits of Americana and leave the rest. I like me some hamburger, but with bacon, egg, pineapple and, of course, beetroot, all good Aussie innovations. So we can take the double try option and see what ingredients we need to make it work for us.

Geez, it’s almost lunchtime. For some reason, I suddenly feel like a burger with the lot, but by the time I walk up the road (Sydney CBD), I’ll go past half-a-dozen Asian take-aways, a couple of Indian joints, and a salad bar or two, plus some good old-fashioned Aussie burger/sandwich joints, and I’ll change my mind that many times. My point being, I don’t think Americanisation is the only game in town.

By: Springs

Springs — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:33:08 +0000

Rugby League is played outside of the NRL. It has always been a game of two halves. Amateur footy will get no benefit from extra ads and many struggle to play for the full 80. There is nothing wrong with two halves.

By: Siva Samoa

Siva Samoa — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:16:35 +0000

oikee will wake up in his dream one day and stroll down sfs to watch the bulldogs play the eels where players will be wearing pads and helmets and the star player are the two quaterbacks. now that will be something.

By: Siva Samoa

Siva Samoa — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:08:43 +0000

fair enough dan. i would like to see the irb having the same set up as fifa and then desicions would be easier to make but i they would end up like that anyway.
i wouldn’t want the rugby unon to have different rules all over and i wouldn’t want one individual to change the rules when he feels like.

By: Paul J

Paul J — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:10:04 +0000

This is not a very big change at all.

The double try option means the attacking team will get one possession only against a set defensive line and they can not use an attacking kick. It will be as common as 1st half field goal attempts, probably less.

It is what the NFL use for an 8 point touch down but will not make RL like the NFL in any way.

I don’t like the idea of 20 minute quarters (unless it’s a 40 degree day in Townsville) as it gives the players too much rest and what we want is tired forwards to allow more attacking opportunities.

I think they should bring this new rule in. It won’t be seen much but i’d rather see a team throw the thing around like crazy going for the double try than see some guy line up a conversion attempt.

By: oikee

oikee — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:47:38 +0000

The only real change is the refs and coaches wearing mics. Thats just innovation, already happens in other sports, the rule they have not used is 3×30, now if its extra adds they need, this gives them that, plus 10 minutes extra game time.
Apart from that, throw in some bells and whistles, the game is fine.
Dont really know why people are getting worked up, you mention progress and people panic. The game has to make bigger dollars, if it does not we will be forever cherry picked by other codes. We all know this is true. Unfortunely that involves Money, ,, which is why i say greed is good, if your not greedy you go the way of the dinosaurs. 2009, this is the way it is, 2000 would not even be a issue. Greed has raised its ugly head, get used to it if you want your game to survive.

Now, where is that hoop.

By: oikee

oikee — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:38:16 +0000

Its coming brother, just sorting out the t/v deal, once that is in place it will be giving the red light. Would be nice if rugby union America, put some mussel behind the push, after all, thats where alot of players will come from, the rugby union colledge teams.
5 teams on the east, 5 on the west. Not bad for a game only been going for 10 years over there.