Comments on: Second German match fixing scandal in 4 years

By: jimbo

jimbo — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:16:49 +0000

Germans not trying to win?
Chinese football match fixing?

What next – a crooked 2 up game in the car park at Randwick Racecourse?

Isn’t it time for the annual clean up of match fixing in Seria A?

Whenever there’s gambling involved and large amounts of money expect someone to try and cheat and expect criminals to get involved.

Ironic that football competitions and most football clubs are now sponsored by betting and gambling companies.

They’ll never clean up gambling – $1.20
FIFA Will do nothing – $2.05
Some Criminals won’t get caught – $2.35
FIFA will clean it up and there will never be any more match fixing – $100.20

By: AndyRoo

AndyRoo — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:41:02 +0000

Tidbit from the SMH

http://www.smh.com.au/world/china-clampdown-20091126-junu.html

I think probably more important for Australia because in the ACL China get 4 spots to our two.

Note it’s 16 former players. Wouldn’t current players be the more likely real culprits but potentially (more) damaging PR.

By: westy

westy — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:39:06 +0000

Freud I was seeking information. I am not so quick to judge. Betting on football games seems to me a less insidious form of gambling then the pokies.. Do you know what type of gambling system the germans have meaning regulated betting shop model like Tab or tabcorp or is it all private bookies licensed or otherwise.
For your information in Asia it is the Chinese league that has caused major concerns for the AFC.

By: Freud of Football

Freud of Football — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:45:17 +0000

Westy, I made no mention of where the payments were going, I merely made note of those that enter the betting establishments. I didn’t imply that they were directly involved but it is still quite astonishing to see relatively poor people hand over hundreds of euros at a time.

Further, I would suggest that seeing as the last big scandal involved a Croatian crime gang and this time there have been matches fixed in both Croatia and Turkey that there would be some ethnic involvement here too.

By: westy

westy — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:03:39 +0000

Freud my understanding is that most of the alleged payments have been to ethnic germans.

By: Freud of Football

Freud of Football — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 07:45:57 +0000

Ah yes, because I made note of the lower class who often hail from other parts of the world I must be a racist snob?

Fact of the matter is, Germany has more well-defined social classes than Australia which in part is due to the education system. Gambling is far more common amongst the lower echelons of society, as is drinking beer at a kiosk at a train station while a bottle of fine red is likely to be consumed by the middle and upper classes.

I don’t see where my class definition is a problem? If it is a problem that afflicts a certain class more than another, why should this not be mentioned?

By: Pippinu

Pippinu — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:12:26 +0000

aren’t the bottle blondes behind the counter???

By: Art Sapphire

Art Sapphire — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:05:16 +0000

Herr Freud, I just popped down to my local TAB and guess what.
I noticed all these un-Australian and unsavoury types handling large amounts of money.

Oh, that’s right. Only blue eyed, blondes with white collar jobs and internet betting accounts should be allowed to handle so much money when it comes to gambling. Thank for reminding me

By: Marshall

Marshall — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:14:46 +0000

“one immediately notices that the majority of the clientele are Turk’s, Eastern Europeans, Russians and some of the more unsavoury.”

Unsavoury? Unsavoury comment more like it.

I’m with Wayne. Those poor painters and other unsavouries, salt of the earth, shouldn’t be subjected to such generalisations and stereotypes.

By: Wayne of Windale

Wayne of Windale — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:46:08 +0000

“one immediately notices that the majority of the clientele are Turk’s, Eastern Europeans, Russians and some of the more unsavoury.”

Unsavoury indeed.

Do these charachters belong to the Painters and Doners Union?