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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-3/#comment-254590</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a point in that mainstream Australia’s fair play more closely aligns with those of Brits/Irish and their colonized offspring.

But the British FA are also slow too really do anything to clean up their game or promote any fairness in their competition (money wise) so I doubt we would be any better of with the Brits in charge. They could be setting an example by cleaning up the premier league (retroactive punishment for divers) but they don’t.
Of course that would probably set them back on the field if they were playing by a different set of moral standards to the rest of the world. But Scotland and Australia are prepared to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a point in that mainstream Australia’s fair play more closely aligns with those of Brits/Irish and their colonized offspring.</p>
<p>But the British FA are also slow too really do anything to clean up their game or promote any fairness in their competition (money wise) so I doubt we would be any better of with the Brits in charge. They could be setting an example by cleaning up the premier league (retroactive punishment for divers) but they don’t.<br />
Of course that would probably set them back on the field if they were playing by a different set of moral standards to the rest of the world. But Scotland and Australia are prepared to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Sapphire</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-3/#comment-254584</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Sapphire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh woe, Viscount!! How dare these non-English footballing infidels ruin our game. According, to you the game should never have left the old dart. The sight of Gerard, Rooney and co diving around like Latin divas must give you fits of apoplexy. 

Nurse - please give the &quot;Viscount&quot; some medication to calm him down :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh woe, Viscount!! How dare these non-English footballing infidels ruin our game. According, to you the game should never have left the old dart. The sight of Gerard, Rooney and co diving around like Latin divas must give you fits of apoplexy. </p>
<p>Nurse &#8211; please give the &#8220;Viscount&#8221; some medication to calm him down <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-254578</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep as well as being gifted he is an innovator too and that’s just another reason why much to Victorian’s disappointment Harry is our best ever modern day Socceroo and poor Dukes has to settle for “it was a thrill just to be nominated”.

If he makes a come back and we get out of the group stage I will call for a recount though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep as well as being gifted he is an innovator too and that’s just another reason why much to Victorian’s disappointment Harry is our best ever modern day Socceroo and poor Dukes has to settle for “it was a thrill just to be nominated”.</p>
<p>If he makes a come back and we get out of the group stage I will call for a recount though.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Sapphire</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-254570</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Sapphire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pip - Towser was not hounded off the Roar. He made a complete tool of himself by espousing Anglo-European Supremacist nonsense and still thought that the &quot;savages&quot; needed civilising. 

Sure, I am a believer in free speech. But his comments were deemed offensive and inappropriate by the people who run this site. He was not prepared to censor himself so off he went volutntarily.

He did everybody a favour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pip &#8211; Towser was not hounded off the Roar. He made a complete tool of himself by espousing Anglo-European Supremacist nonsense and still thought that the &#8220;savages&#8221; needed civilising. </p>
<p>Sure, I am a believer in free speech. But his comments were deemed offensive and inappropriate by the people who run this site. He was not prepared to censor himself so off he went volutntarily.</p>
<p>He did everybody a favour.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-254555</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some would say that Harry has been leading the charge for a good decade!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some would say that Harry has been leading the charge for a good decade!!</p>
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		<title>By: Viscount Crouchback</title>
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		<dc:creator>Viscount Crouchback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. The English decided about ten years ago that if you can&#039;t beat &#039;em, join &#039;em. And so now the likes of Gerrard, the two Coles and even a tough Scouse lad like Rooney dive like swans at the merest hint of contact. I suspect that the Aussies will do the same in due course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. The English decided about ten years ago that if you can&#8217;t beat &#8216;em, join &#8216;em. And so now the likes of Gerrard, the two Coles and even a tough Scouse lad like Rooney dive like swans at the merest hint of contact. I suspect that the Aussies will do the same in due course.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-254442</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the gist of my posts above - the bulk of fans the world over could not give a damn.

Those that are likely to give the biggest damn (Australians/North Americans) - aren&#039;t really enamoured of the game to the same extent.

For this, we will pay for doing dumb things (like defenders unncessarily going to ground), until we catch up with the levels of cunning shown all around the world  - we cannot compete otherwise.

All the examples you provide are slowly coming round anyway.

In fact, Towser was hounded off the Roar for expressing a very similar view a few months back - basically, in the modern age, people are capable of coming up with plenty of English examples - that&#039;s what they call globalisation.

Putting aside joke shop blood capsules, it&#039;s not surprising that Rugby was one of the last football codes to go professional - Gaelic football still is, and is completely devoid of this sort of rubbish.

Yes - it&#039;s a little provincial game - but one steeped in tradition that has remained true to itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the gist of my posts above &#8211; the bulk of fans the world over could not give a damn.</p>
<p>Those that are likely to give the biggest damn (Australians/North Americans) &#8211; aren&#8217;t really enamoured of the game to the same extent.</p>
<p>For this, we will pay for doing dumb things (like defenders unncessarily going to ground), until we catch up with the levels of cunning shown all around the world  &#8211; we cannot compete otherwise.</p>
<p>All the examples you provide are slowly coming round anyway.</p>
<p>In fact, Towser was hounded off the Roar for expressing a very similar view a few months back &#8211; basically, in the modern age, people are capable of coming up with plenty of English examples &#8211; that&#8217;s what they call globalisation.</p>
<p>Putting aside joke shop blood capsules, it&#8217;s not surprising that Rugby was one of the last football codes to go professional &#8211; Gaelic football still is, and is completely devoid of this sort of rubbish.</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; it&#8217;s a little provincial game &#8211; but one steeped in tradition that has remained true to itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Viscount Crouchback</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-3/#comment-254368</link>
		<dc:creator>Viscount Crouchback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The latter, naturally. I think of English and Irish sporting culture as being pretty much identical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The latter, naturally. I think of English and Irish sporting culture as being pretty much identical.</p>
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		<title>By: pothale</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-3/#comment-254366</link>
		<dc:creator>pothale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You didn;t include the Irish then, VC?  Sniff.

Or were we collectively included in the Anglos?  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You didn;t include the Irish then, VC?  Sniff.</p>
<p>Or were we collectively included in the Anglos?  <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Viscount Crouchback</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-254363</link>
		<dc:creator>Viscount Crouchback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one seems willing to call a spade a spade when it comes to the question of cheating in football.  The fact of the matter is that cheating has increased as power has slipped away from the Home Unions. The English intended association football to be a robust, manly game in which sly, devious means were to be rejected out of hand. And for years, that&#039;s exactly how the game was played. It wasn&#039;t perfect, but it was at least honest.

But then the Latins - especially the south Americans - got in on the act and began to introduce their own philosophy to the game. This held that those indulging in diving and cheating - or outright brutality - ought to be applauded for their cleverness. Speak to an Argentinian today and that is exactly what he&#039;ll tell you. Maradona wasn&#039;t a cheat; he was &quot;clever&quot;. Thus we get the Hand of God, we get Diego Simeone winding up Beckham, we get the Uruguyans kicking teams off the park, and so on and so forth. 

The only nations prepared to take a stand against cheating are the Anglos, the French (sometimes), the Italians (sometimes - they do have a chivalrous side) and the Scandinavians. The rest of world football is a cesspit and will never change, so it&#039;s pointless even talking about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one seems willing to call a spade a spade when it comes to the question of cheating in football.  The fact of the matter is that cheating has increased as power has slipped away from the Home Unions. The English intended association football to be a robust, manly game in which sly, devious means were to be rejected out of hand. And for years, that&#8217;s exactly how the game was played. It wasn&#8217;t perfect, but it was at least honest.</p>
<p>But then the Latins &#8211; especially the south Americans &#8211; got in on the act and began to introduce their own philosophy to the game. This held that those indulging in diving and cheating &#8211; or outright brutality &#8211; ought to be applauded for their cleverness. Speak to an Argentinian today and that is exactly what he&#8217;ll tell you. Maradona wasn&#8217;t a cheat; he was &#8220;clever&#8221;. Thus we get the Hand of God, we get Diego Simeone winding up Beckham, we get the Uruguyans kicking teams off the park, and so on and so forth. </p>
<p>The only nations prepared to take a stand against cheating are the Anglos, the French (sometimes), the Italians (sometimes &#8211; they do have a chivalrous side) and the Scandinavians. The rest of world football is a cesspit and will never change, so it&#8217;s pointless even talking about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Marshall</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-254295</link>
		<dc:creator>Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact they have labelled it as extraordinary is interesting. Might be poltical speak, but let&#039;s hope it&#039;s something concrete. Don&#039;t hold your breath though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact they have labelled it as extraordinary is interesting. Might be poltical speak, but let&#8217;s hope it&#8217;s something concrete. Don&#8217;t hold your breath though.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-254294</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put pothale.

A FIFA meeting.

An even bigger farce than Henry&#039;s handball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put pothale.</p>
<p>A FIFA meeting.</p>
<p>An even bigger farce than Henry&#8217;s handball.</p>
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		<title>By: Marshall</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-254293</link>
		<dc:creator>Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed that the amount of attention this issue is getting is deserved because we need a FIFA response. However, I do agree with what the column says - diving, simulation, chasing the ref etc has created a culture in which the that&#039;s football and trying to get away with it attitude prevails, so in moments like that Henry handballs cause he knows there is a chance he can get a way with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed that the amount of attention this issue is getting is deserved because we need a FIFA response. However, I do agree with what the column says &#8211; diving, simulation, chasing the ref etc has created a culture in which the that&#8217;s football and trying to get away with it attitude prevails, so in moments like that Henry handballs cause he knows there is a chance he can get a way with it.</p>
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		<title>By: pothale</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-254292</link>
		<dc:creator>pothale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed Guy.   

I see that FIFA have announced a &quot;BIG MEETING&#039; for early December.  This is to let people know they are &#039;TAKING THINGS VERY SERIOUSLY&#039; and have lots of important people meeting in a room and talking about things.

Will anything concrete emerge from this very important meeting?  I&#039;m betting no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed Guy.   </p>
<p>I see that FIFA have announced a &#8220;BIG MEETING&#8217; for early December.  This is to let people know they are &#8216;TAKING THINGS VERY SERIOUSLY&#8217; and have lots of important people meeting in a room and talking about things.</p>
<p>Will anything concrete emerge from this very important meeting?  I&#8217;m betting no.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Smiley</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-254288</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Smiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A number of people on this thread and others have mentioned that this issue is now dead and we should move on. To be fair we should only really move on when a fair and reasonable response has been initiated by FIFA. This of course will never happen as, just like the IOC, they are a disgracefully corrupt and duplicitous organisation with no love for the sport/s they run.

Henry&#039;s cheating is not really comparable to diving, etc. The end result is the same but if someone is prepared to do something that blatant on the big stage and know there is a good chance he will get away with it, then it is genuinely worrying. Diving in the  box and faking fouls are harder for refs to spot in real time.

What really gets me is the multitude of players willing to spout the &#039;that&#039;s football&#039; line. It&#039;s the kind of thoughtless, mindless crap that can and will excuse just about anything. and never seems to elicit further questioning from the interviewers.

I may be swimming against the tide here but I would love to see Culina et al grilled just a little harder so they can justify their back-seat support properly. Just because journos don&#039;t get to interview Blatter et al, doesn&#039;t mean hard questions can&#039;t be asked somewhere along the line.

Also I&#039;m surprised how many Australians on this thread are so keen to abandon the notion of fair play (not in the FIFA sense of the term!) and have a go at the Irish apologists and genuinely outraged people out there. Maybe the Aussie hatred of whingers, which by and large is also a good thing, is coming into play here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A number of people on this thread and others have mentioned that this issue is now dead and we should move on. To be fair we should only really move on when a fair and reasonable response has been initiated by FIFA. This of course will never happen as, just like the IOC, they are a disgracefully corrupt and duplicitous organisation with no love for the sport/s they run.</p>
<p>Henry&#8217;s cheating is not really comparable to diving, etc. The end result is the same but if someone is prepared to do something that blatant on the big stage and know there is a good chance he will get away with it, then it is genuinely worrying. Diving in the  box and faking fouls are harder for refs to spot in real time.</p>
<p>What really gets me is the multitude of players willing to spout the &#8216;that&#8217;s football&#8217; line. It&#8217;s the kind of thoughtless, mindless crap that can and will excuse just about anything. and never seems to elicit further questioning from the interviewers.</p>
<p>I may be swimming against the tide here but I would love to see Culina et al grilled just a little harder so they can justify their back-seat support properly. Just because journos don&#8217;t get to interview Blatter et al, doesn&#8217;t mean hard questions can&#8217;t be asked somewhere along the line.</p>
<p>Also I&#8217;m surprised how many Australians on this thread are so keen to abandon the notion of fair play (not in the FIFA sense of the term!) and have a go at the Irish apologists and genuinely outraged people out there. Maybe the Aussie hatred of whingers, which by and large is also a good thing, is coming into play here.</p>
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		<title>By: Marshall</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-254278</link>
		<dc:creator>Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Players seem to care a lot about legacies and reputations when they retire. You have to think Henry will forever regret that second as something that ruins his reputation. In that way I sort of feel for him. Like Zidane, one moment of madness and your reputation is shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Players seem to care a lot about legacies and reputations when they retire. You have to think Henry will forever regret that second as something that ruins his reputation. In that way I sort of feel for him. Like Zidane, one moment of madness and your reputation is shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Midfielder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midfielder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of football arguements against a TV replay is where do you start the replay..if the hand ball was six passes back... or the pass before or the shot that went in....

I think the two extra assistant refs is a great idea... But by &amp; large you get good calls and you get bad calls ... most acept that it evens out in the end...

As for  Thierry, kama will get him he will maybe never be said to be a great ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of football arguements against a TV replay is where do you start the replay..if the hand ball was six passes back&#8230; or the pass before or the shot that went in&#8230;.</p>
<p>I think the two extra assistant refs is a great idea&#8230; But by &amp; large you get good calls and you get bad calls &#8230; most acept that it evens out in the end&#8230;</p>
<p>As for  Thierry, kama will get him he will maybe never be said to be a great &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m fascinated to see what FIFA does in this meeting. They have made a point of stressing it as an extraordinary meeting so it&#039;s suggesting it&#039;ll be a ruling of some kind. Pressure is on them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m fascinated to see what FIFA does in this meeting. They have made a point of stressing it as an extraordinary meeting so it&#8217;s suggesting it&#8217;ll be a ruling of some kind. Pressure is on them</p>
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		<title>By: Marshall</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-1/#comment-254037</link>
		<dc:creator>Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. They need to act or risk letting the inmates run the show</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. They need to act or risk letting the inmates run the show</p>
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		<title>By: Art Sapphire</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-254033</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Sapphire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just don&#039;t try and say it in German, General. Otherwise the German Lexicological Panzer Division will get upset and the last thing you don&#039;t want to do is get them upset :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just don&#8217;t try and say it in German, General. Otherwise the German Lexicological Panzer Division will get upset and the last thing you don&#8217;t want to do is get them upset <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: GeneralAshnak</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-254029</link>
		<dc:creator>GeneralAshnak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I am intrigued! The search for genital warts begins! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I am intrigued! The search for genital warts begins! <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Art Sapphire</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-254011</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Sapphire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes General - If you want hysteria you should read the responses to Andrew Sutherland&#039;s piece on Shoab&#039;s genital warts. Funniest thread on The Roar ever. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes General &#8211; If you want hysteria you should read the responses to Andrew Sutherland&#8217;s piece on Shoab&#8217;s genital warts. Funniest thread on The Roar ever. <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: GeneralAshnak</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-253980</link>
		<dc:creator>GeneralAshnak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that every sport involves cheating (not sure about Golf or Chess) to some degree, the role of the referee is to limit the level of success that is achieved from doing so. At the moment it is easier for a player to deceive the ref than it is for the ref to detect the cheat in football. This is a state of affairs that needs to be corrected by FIFA in order to maintain the sports credibility in those landscapes where football is not the dominant code.

With regard to Australia and the USA, or the very least the USA, don&#039;t you think that FIFA wants as big a slice of our sporting pies as they can get? Not sure they want to actively remain as the 3rd or 4th sport in our countries for ever...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that every sport involves cheating (not sure about Golf or Chess) to some degree, the role of the referee is to limit the level of success that is achieved from doing so. At the moment it is easier for a player to deceive the ref than it is for the ref to detect the cheat in football. This is a state of affairs that needs to be corrected by FIFA in order to maintain the sports credibility in those landscapes where football is not the dominant code.</p>
<p>With regard to Australia and the USA, or the very least the USA, don&#8217;t you think that FIFA wants as big a slice of our sporting pies as they can get? Not sure they want to actively remain as the 3rd or 4th sport in our countries for ever&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GeneralAshnak</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-253972</link>
		<dc:creator>GeneralAshnak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Art, I was trying to be slightly hysterical - it matched in with the general tone of the replies, bored indifference or panic. Yes the Irish are going to cop it sweet, everyone (including them) knew that from the 1st second. What I am on about is exactly the same thing you desire, FIFA to actually do something to help matches to be decided by the skill of the players, not their ability to deceive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Art, I was trying to be slightly hysterical &#8211; it matched in with the general tone of the replies, bored indifference or panic. Yes the Irish are going to cop it sweet, everyone (including them) knew that from the 1st second. What I am on about is exactly the same thing you desire, FIFA to actually do something to help matches to be decided by the skill of the players, not their ability to deceive.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Sapphire</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-253965</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Sapphire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>General - actually, your whole post can be laughed off. Its tone borders on hysterical. 
Now if you had taken the time and my reasoned, thoughtful post you might come to a different conclusion :)

In football, you need something big to happen before FIFA gets it act together.

Yesterday, in Tuckerman&#039;s piece.  I posted the reason why FIFA introduced the simultaneous playing of the last Group Games at the WC.Now in hindsight it makes perfect sense to have the games played at the same time, but it took a scandal much worse than what Henry did against the Irish to make FIFA act. However, the victim in that matter, the Algerians, like the Irish had to cop it sweet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>General &#8211; actually, your whole post can be laughed off. Its tone borders on hysterical.<br />
Now if you had taken the time and my reasoned, thoughtful post you might come to a different conclusion <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In football, you need something big to happen before FIFA gets it act together.</p>
<p>Yesterday, in Tuckerman&#8217;s piece.  I posted the reason why FIFA introduced the simultaneous playing of the last Group Games at the WC.Now in hindsight it makes perfect sense to have the games played at the same time, but it took a scandal much worse than what Henry did against the Irish to make FIFA act. However, the victim in that matter, the Algerians, like the Irish had to cop it sweet.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-253943</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>General
I understand what you&#039;re saying - but it&#039;s just Australians and Americans who are going to think like that - the rest of the world is won over - and they don&#039;t appear to mind the fact that a lot of effort goes into deceiving refs.

Now once again - let me say that all team sports at professional levels try to push the envelop in terms of getting an advantage for their team - so that that happens in the World game is not a big deal in itself - but the clear trend in my eyes - viewing it over a 35 year period - is that the difficulty in goal scoring has doubled in that period - so now deceiving the ref comes with huge rewards - the ability to score one of the very few goals scored per game - this is the trend I have observed which I don&#039;t like - but the rest of the world doesn&#039;t care - that&#039;s very clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>General<br />
I understand what you&#8217;re saying &#8211; but it&#8217;s just Australians and Americans who are going to think like that &#8211; the rest of the world is won over &#8211; and they don&#8217;t appear to mind the fact that a lot of effort goes into deceiving refs.</p>
<p>Now once again &#8211; let me say that all team sports at professional levels try to push the envelop in terms of getting an advantage for their team &#8211; so that that happens in the World game is not a big deal in itself &#8211; but the clear trend in my eyes &#8211; viewing it over a 35 year period &#8211; is that the difficulty in goal scoring has doubled in that period &#8211; so now deceiving the ref comes with huge rewards &#8211; the ability to score one of the very few goals scored per game &#8211; this is the trend I have observed which I don&#8217;t like &#8211; but the rest of the world doesn&#8217;t care &#8211; that&#8217;s very clear.</p>
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		<title>By: GeneralAshnak</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-253942</link>
		<dc:creator>GeneralAshnak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also because that game was not viewed by a large portion of the worlds population (including our own I might add) whereas Henry&#039;s handball was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also because that game was not viewed by a large portion of the worlds population (including our own I might add) whereas Henry&#8217;s handball was.</p>
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		<title>By: GeneralAshnak</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-253935</link>
		<dc:creator>GeneralAshnak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But that is the point Pips, no one should be worried about existing fans. But one of FIFA&#039;s goals is to advance the status of football the world over. You don&#039;t do that by allowing the game to be viewed as a sport where the skill of the players is not as important as their ability to deceive the referee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But that is the point Pips, no one should be worried about existing fans. But one of FIFA&#8217;s goals is to advance the status of football the world over. You don&#8217;t do that by allowing the game to be viewed as a sport where the skill of the players is not as important as their ability to deceive the referee.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-253929</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>General
but world wide, those who don&#039;t follow it are in the minority.

The fans of the game, worldwide, do not give a damn about Henry&#039;s handball.

Do fans the world over give a damn about 2nd tier games being fixed?  I doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>General<br />
but world wide, those who don&#8217;t follow it are in the minority.</p>
<p>The fans of the game, worldwide, do not give a damn about Henry&#8217;s handball.</p>
<p>Do fans the world over give a damn about 2nd tier games being fixed?  I doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: GeneralAshnak</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/25/world-game-was-already-scarred-before-henry/comment-page-2/#comment-253922</link>
		<dc:creator>GeneralAshnak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I think people miss the point about Henry&#039;s blatant act of cheating. He has not scarred the games image to those already deeply in the throws of their love affair with the world game. But he has caused it untold damage in the eyes of those who either actively dislike the game or for those who are just becoming interested in it - or even hearing about it for the first time. The biggest news about football in the world is two fold, hundreds of games have been fixed in Europe, and a country has qualified for the sports biggest event by an act of outright cheating. To think that what has occured is going to be shrugged off is stupidity of the highest order. The USA and Australia are two examples of countries where this could not have come at a worse possible time. We are trying to convince our respective peoples and governments to support the playing of the games elite competition, yet the most notable thing to occur in the game during this crucial time are two acts which do nothing to enhance the sports reputation - in fact all they are going to do is give oxygen to those who wish to crucify the sport at all it&#039;s levels. Once again we have firmly entrenched the idea that football is a game only for cheats, divers and play actors - a game that does not turn on the skill of the players, but their ability to fool the referee. If you think that is simething that can be laughed off, think again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I think people miss the point about Henry&#8217;s blatant act of cheating. He has not scarred the games image to those already deeply in the throws of their love affair with the world game. But he has caused it untold damage in the eyes of those who either actively dislike the game or for those who are just becoming interested in it &#8211; or even hearing about it for the first time. The biggest news about football in the world is two fold, hundreds of games have been fixed in Europe, and a country has qualified for the sports biggest event by an act of outright cheating. To think that what has occured is going to be shrugged off is stupidity of the highest order. The USA and Australia are two examples of countries where this could not have come at a worse possible time. We are trying to convince our respective peoples and governments to support the playing of the games elite competition, yet the most notable thing to occur in the game during this crucial time are two acts which do nothing to enhance the sports reputation &#8211; in fact all they are going to do is give oxygen to those who wish to crucify the sport at all it&#8217;s levels. Once again we have firmly entrenched the idea that football is a game only for cheats, divers and play actors &#8211; a game that does not turn on the skill of the players, but their ability to fool the referee. If you think that is simething that can be laughed off, think again.</p>
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