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		<title>By: KB</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/11/29/a-leagues-powerhouse-club-pulling-away-from-the-rest/comment-page-4/#comment-258986</link>
		<dc:creator>KB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 05:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow 17yrs, geeez then sign him up for 12 years ... I hope we snap him up if he ever decided to leave the Roar...  I know SFC or Gold Coast would love to have him..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow 17yrs, geeez then sign him up for 12 years &#8230; I hope we snap him up if he ever decided to leave the Roar&#8230;  I know SFC or Gold Coast would love to have him..</p>
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		<title>By: Towser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Towser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pippinu

Hard to imagine by his performance I know. Hope to hang onto him at the Roar for a couple more seasons.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pippinu</p>
<p>Hard to imagine by his performance I know. Hope to hang onto him at the Roar for a couple more seasons.</p>
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		<title>By: cab711</title>
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		<dc:creator>cab711</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Entertaining game, especially in contrast to the mediocre Sydney FC performance I went to on Sunday. Guy sitting next to me was crying for his money back. There was 10mins of heart from the players and the rest was ball watching save the usual suspects of Brosque and Collosimo. It takes more than 2 players to make a winning team. Pull you finger out Sunshine!

Thought that Kruse had a good game and really made a good target man. However, saying that I believe GCU just had a real shocker night and made The Vic look real good. This! I believe was what Culina Snr. was alluding to in his eloquent manner. The teams perform the same but if the opposition lags off it gives the other the upper-hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Entertaining game, especially in contrast to the mediocre Sydney FC performance I went to on Sunday. Guy sitting next to me was crying for his money back. There was 10mins of heart from the players and the rest was ball watching save the usual suspects of Brosque and Collosimo. It takes more than 2 players to make a winning team. Pull you finger out Sunshine!</p>
<p>Thought that Kruse had a good game and really made a good target man. However, saying that I believe GCU just had a real shocker night and made The Vic look real good. This! I believe was what Culina Snr. was alluding to in his eloquent manner. The teams perform the same but if the opposition lags off it gives the other the upper-hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is he still only 17??!!</description>
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		<title>By: Towser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Towser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KB

17 year old Oar,18, 10th December. Already 2 levels of football thinking ahead of his team mates.</description>
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<p>17 year old Oar,18, 10th December. Already 2 levels of football thinking ahead of his team mates.</p>
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		<title>By: KB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What ever happens at the Roar FC they should sign 21 yr old Oar up for 5 years... Love to have him at SFC or GCU ... Second thoughts GCU FC as I could see him play live every home match at Fortress Miron... 

~~~~~~
KB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What ever happens at the Roar FC they should sign 21 yr old Oar up for 5 years&#8230; Love to have him at SFC or GCU &#8230; Second thoughts GCU FC as I could see him play live every home match at Fortress Miron&#8230; </p>
<p>~~~~~~<br />
KB</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I now live in Brisbane so I attend Brisbane Roar games and even though I accept Greystanes won’t be promoted to the A league I haven’t yet shifted allegiances. 
Most of the enjoyment I get is from seeing attacking football or good young players coming through and doing well. Frank played the kids but I am confident Ange will too (he was Australia’s youth coach before) and a couple of the players appeared to have stalled under Farina (Nichols and Kruse) so I am not concerned about the coaching change.

I would be disappointed though if they don’t hold onto Devere. It’s my personal opinion derived from the NSL days is that you know a club is doing badly off the field if they let a player with overseas potential go to another Australian club.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I now live in Brisbane so I attend Brisbane Roar games and even though I accept Greystanes won’t be promoted to the A league I haven’t yet shifted allegiances.<br />
Most of the enjoyment I get is from seeing attacking football or good young players coming through and doing well. Frank played the kids but I am confident Ange will too (he was Australia’s youth coach before) and a couple of the players appeared to have stalled under Farina (Nichols and Kruse) so I am not concerned about the coaching change.</p>
<p>I would be disappointed though if they don’t hold onto Devere. It’s my personal opinion derived from the NSL days is that you know a club is doing badly off the field if they let a player with overseas potential go to another Australian club.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Towser
I obviously don&#039;t know the ins and outs of the Roar behind the scenes, and we now all know that Farina had some personal problems, but at least he blooded a fair few kids (in fact, we now have one of the ones he blooded, and not necessarily the best one either, although he scored a good debut goal on the weekend).

That&#039;s certainly one thing that stood out to me observing from afar.

But - and I include the Victory here - over the whole 5 years, just about every club has been next to hopeless at home, with the Roar perhaps the worst off.

Building a following is tough from scratch - but if you can&#039;t get it together especially when you&#039;re at home - that just doubles the difficulty factor!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Towser<br />
I obviously don&#8217;t know the ins and outs of the Roar behind the scenes, and we now all know that Farina had some personal problems, but at least he blooded a fair few kids (in fact, we now have one of the ones he blooded, and not necessarily the best one either, although he scored a good debut goal on the weekend).</p>
<p>That&#8217;s certainly one thing that stood out to me observing from afar.</p>
<p>But &#8211; and I include the Victory here &#8211; over the whole 5 years, just about every club has been next to hopeless at home, with the Roar perhaps the worst off.</p>
<p>Building a following is tough from scratch &#8211; but if you can&#8217;t get it together especially when you&#8217;re at home &#8211; that just doubles the difficulty factor!!</p>
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		<title>By: Towser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Towser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pippinu

I remember at the start of the A-League that each club would send media communications people to have regular meetings with Matt Caroll. I know this because I knew the bloke at the Roar. Supposed to be an exchange of ideas each club learning off the other. Unfortunately that old enemy of progress &quot;Ego&quot; got in the way at the Roar. Again known from the same source.
In comparison MV has been a well oiled machine with each part coordinated to produce close to a Rolls Royce engine than a Kia. Ange is starting to make the right moves,increasing the people with football knowledge around him. Will take time(dont expect much this season) but his moves so far are in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pippinu</p>
<p>I remember at the start of the A-League that each club would send media communications people to have regular meetings with Matt Caroll. I know this because I knew the bloke at the Roar. Supposed to be an exchange of ideas each club learning off the other. Unfortunately that old enemy of progress &#8220;Ego&#8221; got in the way at the Roar. Again known from the same source.<br />
In comparison MV has been a well oiled machine with each part coordinated to produce close to a Rolls Royce engine than a Kia. Ange is starting to make the right moves,increasing the people with football knowledge around him. Will take time(dont expect much this season) but his moves so far are in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Towser
thanks for the link - good article.

Stability has been the name of the game - about six regular starters have been there for at least 4 seasons - that shoudln&#039;t be big news - but in the A-League, as young as it is, it actually is a bit of a rarity.

I&#039;m not a huge fan of Broxham&#039;s, and I&#039;m sure Art isn&#039;t either, but I accept what this article is saying that he works hard to fit in with the more &quot;gifted&quot; players, doing the dirty work, tracking back, pressing, winning 50/50 balls, and occasionally bringing a player down - he does have a bad habit of sliding in indiscriminately, and hopefully he can fix that bad habit up in the near future.

He&#039;s not too bad on the ball and with his passing - but he can be inconsistent - and go through lengthy patches where he is abslutely spraying them left, right and centre.

And please, please - leave the dead ball situations to Carlos!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Towser<br />
thanks for the link &#8211; good article.</p>
<p>Stability has been the name of the game &#8211; about six regular starters have been there for at least 4 seasons &#8211; that shoudln&#8217;t be big news &#8211; but in the A-League, as young as it is, it actually is a bit of a rarity.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a huge fan of Broxham&#8217;s, and I&#8217;m sure Art isn&#8217;t either, but I accept what this article is saying that he works hard to fit in with the more &#8220;gifted&#8221; players, doing the dirty work, tracking back, pressing, winning 50/50 balls, and occasionally bringing a player down &#8211; he does have a bad habit of sliding in indiscriminately, and hopefully he can fix that bad habit up in the near future.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s not too bad on the ball and with his passing &#8211; but he can be inconsistent &#8211; and go through lengthy patches where he is abslutely spraying them left, right and centre.</p>
<p>And please, please &#8211; leave the dead ball situations to Carlos!!</p>
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		<title>By: Towser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Towser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Australian&quot; gives out the accolades to MV. 

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/melbourne-has-invested-in-its-future-by-re-signing-midfielder-leigh-broxham/story-e6frg7mf-1225805929399

Just reading this The Roar are 5 years behind on &amp; off the field. They cocked up from word go by accepting the &quot;Lions&quot; bid.. We appointed a football manager last week(young Brazilian) &amp; Ange has just put the feelers out with local BPL coaches to provide a stronger pathway from local club football to the Roar. In other words develop a feeder system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Australian&#8221; gives out the accolades to MV. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/melbourne-has-invested-in-its-future-by-re-signing-midfielder-leigh-broxham/story-e6frg7mf-1225805929399" rel="nofollow">http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/melbourne-has-invested-in-its-future-by-re-signing-midfielder-leigh-broxham/story-e6frg7mf-1225805929399</a></p>
<p>Just reading this The Roar are 5 years behind on &amp; off the field. They cocked up from word go by accepting the &#8220;Lions&#8221; bid.. We appointed a football manager last week(young Brazilian) &amp; Ange has just put the feelers out with local BPL coaches to provide a stronger pathway from local club football to the Roar. In other words develop a feeder system.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CCM would have to pump the powerhouse club 6-0 for the next 10 years for peceptions to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CCM would have to pump the powerhouse club 6-0 for the next 10 years for peceptions to change.</p>
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		<title>By: KB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Millster terrific to have you back -- somethings are just more important than the nation&#039;s 2 party political leadership manoeuvring :lol:

~~~~~
KB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Millster terrific to have you back &#8212; somethings are just more important than the nation&#8217;s 2 party political leadership manoeuvring <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>~~~~~<br />
KB</p>
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		<title>By: KB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Al,
so now with your permission I can use the term Marn Grooky, Marn Grook, or just Grooky ... glad to have you on board, I now feel vindicated, and hope you will never pull the trigger of my use of that term/terms again ... By all means call my preferred code Sokkah if your wish, as it will never be known by that throughout the majority of the world .. 

The FFA have boldly relaunched their corporate name and image as &quot;Football Federation Australia&quot; ... as it being their right to do so ... ie reclaiming their rightful name &quot;Football&quot; as it was first coined by the inventors of the round ball game, which every other code had hijacked... So let&#039;s rejoice together and abide by that long awaited grand FFA imitative, long live Grooky and Football side by side on Planet Earth and eventually all over Australia... (after your eventual demise of coarse)  :lol: 

~~~~~~~
KB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Al,<br />
so now with your permission I can use the term Marn Grooky, Marn Grook, or just Grooky &#8230; glad to have you on board, I now feel vindicated, and hope you will never pull the trigger of my use of that term/terms again &#8230; By all means call my preferred code Sokkah if your wish, as it will never be known by that throughout the majority of the world .. </p>
<p>The FFA have boldly relaunched their corporate name and image as &#8220;Football Federation Australia&#8221; &#8230; as it being their right to do so &#8230; ie reclaiming their rightful name &#8220;Football&#8221; as it was first coined by the inventors of the round ball game, which every other code had hijacked&#8230; So let&#8217;s rejoice together and abide by that long awaited grand FFA imitative, long live Grooky and Football side by side on Planet Earth and eventually all over Australia&#8230; (after your eventual demise of coarse)  <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>~~~~~~~<br />
KB</p>
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		<title>By: Chop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it, the articles on here make me chuckle so very much.....

Let me get this straight, the powerhouse club in Melbourne, with their high profile, big city, lots of supporters....

So the club that has pumped the so called powerhouse twice this year by a combined 6-0  (the apparently boring Mariners) is nothing....Classic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it, the articles on here make me chuckle so very much&#8230;..</p>
<p>Let me get this straight, the powerhouse club in Melbourne, with their high profile, big city, lots of supporters&#8230;.</p>
<p>So the club that has pumped the so called powerhouse twice this year by a combined 6-0  (the apparently boring Mariners) is nothing&#8230;.Classic.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Sapphire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Sapphire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fabiano was released because he was not getting a game. Since the departure of Allsop, Victory have been playing less long ball  and deploying a more mobile front 3. There was no point keeping the lad. Good move by Victory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fabiano was released because he was not getting a game. Since the departure of Allsop, Victory have been playing less long ball  and deploying a more mobile front 3. There was no point keeping the lad. Good move by Victory.</p>
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		<title>By: Towser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Towser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 04:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Powerhouse club or not,couldnt hold Fabiano. To another Thai club no less:-

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/117864,fabianos-early-exit-to-thailand.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Powerhouse club or not,couldnt hold Fabiano. To another Thai club no less:-</p>
<p><a href="http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/117864,fabianos-early-exit-to-thailand.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/117864,fabianos-early-exit-to-thailand.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 04:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeh - it is a bit like that!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeh &#8211; it is a bit like that!!</p>
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		<title>By: BigAl</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigAl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 04:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing wrong with &#039;Marn Grook&#039;  !  - in fact personally I&#039;d be quite happy to have that (or what you&#039;re alluding to ) adopted as the official name of Aussie Rules in this country.

It would be a great tribute to our Indiginous peoples  -  and would probably be more apppreciated and of far more value than any of the &#039;SORRY&#039; statements that seem to be so fashionable these  days.

However, I have the common sense to realise that it just wouldn&#039;t catch on ! 
Sort of like trying to get everyone in Australia to call Soccer . . . Football !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing wrong with &#8216;Marn Grook&#8217;  !  &#8211; in fact personally I&#8217;d be quite happy to have that (or what you&#8217;re alluding to ) adopted as the official name of Aussie Rules in this country.</p>
<p>It would be a great tribute to our Indiginous peoples  &#8211;  and would probably be more apppreciated and of far more value than any of the &#8216;SORRY&#8217; statements that seem to be so fashionable these  days.</p>
<p>However, I have the common sense to realise that it just wouldn&#8217;t catch on !<br />
Sort of like trying to get everyone in Australia to call Soccer . . . Football !</p>
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		<title>By: Millster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Millster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 04:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I come back for a peek here once in a while and its comforting to know, in the midst of such a politically volatile day down there in Oz,  that the same old crew are arguing the same old things here on the Roar. (Good work though KB, keep giving it to those &#039;wonky-ball&#039; southerners lad.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I come back for a peek here once in a while and its comforting to know, in the midst of such a politically volatile day down there in Oz,  that the same old crew are arguing the same old things here on the Roar. (Good work though KB, keep giving it to those &#8216;wonky-ball&#8217; southerners lad.)</p>
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		<title>By: mahony</title>
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		<dc:creator>mahony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 04:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t!</p>
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		<title>By: Art Sapphire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Sapphire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael - your constant whinging of the development of the new stadium is pathological. 
You don&#039;t see me complaining of the 15 million dollar super gym which the utterly bankrupt Roos were given by the taxpayers. Why don&#039;t you write an article complaining about the waste of taxpayers money so your boys can have a nice spa bath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael &#8211; your constant whinging of the development of the new stadium is pathological.<br />
You don&#8217;t see me complaining of the 15 million dollar super gym which the utterly bankrupt Roos were given by the taxpayers. Why don&#8217;t you write an article complaining about the waste of taxpayers money so your boys can have a nice spa bath.</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>20K is not that good for Melbourne.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20K is not that good for Melbourne.</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art,

You cant keep changing the premise of your argument.

I stated 20K was not a good crowd given the extra publicity around the MV and GC game.  You come back with comments about AFL teams. ;-)

The fact is MV has levelled off quite quickly, maybe the FFA is right to bring in another team to build derbies but the after season 2 many predicted 40-50K crowds for the blockbusters against Adel and Syd - it has not eventuated.

Redb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art,</p>
<p>You cant keep changing the premise of your argument.</p>
<p>I stated 20K was not a good crowd given the extra publicity around the MV and GC game.  You come back with comments about AFL teams. <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The fact is MV has levelled off quite quickly, maybe the FFA is right to bring in another team to build derbies but the after season 2 many predicted 40-50K crowds for the blockbusters against Adel and Syd &#8211; it has not eventuated.</p>
<p>Redb</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah, we tried to tell &#039;em that there would be this &#039;honeymoon&#039; period........

but, Lord to his credit, struck while the coals were hot and drew public funds to develop a stadium for the private play-thing franchise teams of super wealthy individuals.

so, don&#039;t you DARE complain (or give the impression of not being 100% grateful for) about a free gift $270 million stadium.  THAT would be very, very poor form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah, we tried to tell &#8216;em that there would be this &#8216;honeymoon&#8217; period&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>but, Lord to his credit, struck while the coals were hot and drew public funds to develop a stadium for the private play-thing franchise teams of super wealthy individuals.</p>
<p>so, don&#8217;t you DARE complain (or give the impression of not being 100% grateful for) about a free gift $270 million stadium.  THAT would be very, very poor form.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would agree that if you could sell out your full capacity as memberships each year (say, around 30,000) - you&#039;d never, ever want for anything in perpetuity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree that if you could sell out your full capacity as memberships each year (say, around 30,000) &#8211; you&#8217;d never, ever want for anything in perpetuity.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Sapphire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Sapphire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on Brian -  As a Victory member for 5 years, all I can say is that Geoff Lord and the board got way ahead of themselves during season 2 and 3. The original design of the new stadium was for 20k. Even when the government was successfully lobbied to increase the capacity to 31k. Lord thought the new stadium would still be too small and signed the deal with Etihad to stage the blockbuster games and ACL games. This is the worst decision the club has ever made and will backfire badly. The club has 18k members. The priority for the club is to keep the members happy and to grow the membership base and the best way to do that was by putting them in a football friendly stadium and not to cater to casual theatregoers who might want to go to the odd big game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on Brian &#8211;  As a Victory member for 5 years, all I can say is that Geoff Lord and the board got way ahead of themselves during season 2 and 3. The original design of the new stadium was for 20k. Even when the government was successfully lobbied to increase the capacity to 31k. Lord thought the new stadium would still be too small and signed the deal with Etihad to stage the blockbuster games and ACL games. This is the worst decision the club has ever made and will backfire badly. The club has 18k members. The priority for the club is to keep the members happy and to grow the membership base and the best way to do that was by putting them in a football friendly stadium and not to cater to casual theatregoers who might want to go to the odd big game.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KB, I don&#039;t think that some new colors would change anything. Just being enthusiastic about the club does wonders and coupled with a 6 year gap from when these teams were left out of &quot;new&quot; football and playing a few games at these state league clubs will do wonders. Actions speak louder than words/pictures and time heals all wounds etc etc. If they are in any way a new Parramatta Power they can forget about any Croatian support though.

They should also enter into agreements with Marconi and Sydney United so that those teams receive more than the stipulated 3k from a  transfer to an A league club. Perhaps putting in a generous sell on % so that those teams are happy for Rovers to suceed rather than seeing them as the fox sports funded enemy.

As to the colors Red Balck and White I have seen this potential kit and I think it looks quite fetching. This isn&#039;t what ROvers would look like but does show the potential of those colors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KB, I don&#8217;t think that some new colors would change anything. Just being enthusiastic about the club does wonders and coupled with a 6 year gap from when these teams were left out of &#8220;new&#8221; football and playing a few games at these state league clubs will do wonders. Actions speak louder than words/pictures and time heals all wounds etc etc. If they are in any way a new Parramatta Power they can forget about any Croatian support though.</p>
<p>They should also enter into agreements with Marconi and Sydney United so that those teams receive more than the stipulated 3k from a  transfer to an A league club. Perhaps putting in a generous sell on % so that those teams are happy for Rovers to suceed rather than seeing them as the fox sports funded enemy.</p>
<p>As to the colors Red Balck and White I have seen this potential kit and I think it looks quite fetching. This isn&#8217;t what ROvers would look like but does show the potential of those colors.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Munich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Munich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MVFC&#039;s commitment to Etihad revealed last week - 5 games per season and all ACL matches - is a disgrace and a huge disappointment particularly after MVFC have been using the new stadium as a hook for membership.  It&#039;s clear that the special configuration at Etihad is going to be a rare event.   I agree the new stadium is going to be sensational and MVFC has potentially handed Melb Heart the &quot;unique selling proposition&quot; it was looking for if its signs up for ALL of its games there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MVFC&#8217;s commitment to Etihad revealed last week &#8211; 5 games per season and all ACL matches &#8211; is a disgrace and a huge disappointment particularly after MVFC have been using the new stadium as a hook for membership.  It&#8217;s clear that the special configuration at Etihad is going to be a rare event.   I agree the new stadium is going to be sensational and MVFC has potentially handed Melb Heart the &#8220;unique selling proposition&#8221; it was looking for if its signs up for ALL of its games there.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps not KB but reading the 442 forums I think the rivalry is already building. You can try and talk down the bogans chance of success that’s ok, I wouldn’t expect anything less from a SFC fan. We have Rowden and Yankos two smart blokes who are also football folk so the business side of things isn’t being left in the hands of a random patron from Wenty Leagus club (who I am sure would do a fine job….certainly no worse that Clive Mesnik).

I don’t think we are going to see a really intense rivalry in the A league for a while because we are still at the stage where there is a shared bond of struggle that all football fans have had to put up with.  I think the critical mass of two HAL teams will start the ball rolling PR wise and along with FTA we will be on the road to ACL domination.

East vs West isn’t everything but it will be that little element that gives the Sydney rivalry a head start, that tiny bit of undercurrent that invokes that little bit extra of local pride</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps not KB but reading the 442 forums I think the rivalry is already building. You can try and talk down the bogans chance of success that’s ok, I wouldn’t expect anything less from a SFC fan. We have Rowden and Yankos two smart blokes who are also football folk so the business side of things isn’t being left in the hands of a random patron from Wenty Leagus club (who I am sure would do a fine job….certainly no worse that Clive Mesnik).</p>
<p>I don’t think we are going to see a really intense rivalry in the A league for a while because we are still at the stage where there is a shared bond of struggle that all football fans have had to put up with.  I think the critical mass of two HAL teams will start the ball rolling PR wise and along with FTA we will be on the road to ACL domination.</p>
<p>East vs West isn’t everything but it will be that little element that gives the Sydney rivalry a head start, that tiny bit of undercurrent that invokes that little bit extra of local pride</p>
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