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November 29th 2009 @ 2:54am
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Exclusive: Justin Harrison agrees to play for Brumbies
Sydney, March 16, 2005. Waratahs lock Justin Harrison at a press conference today in Sydney. Justin Harrison has admitted to making racially offensive remarks against a black South African player during last weekend's Super 12 rugby match against the Cats. (AAP Image/Mick Tsikas)
On Monday, Justin Harrison, the controversial and tough as a plank second rower, will turn up for training with the ACT Brumbies. The Roar has learnt that Harrison has signed terms with the Brumbies for the 2010 season, and that the ARU has refused to endorse the contract.
The stage is set for a bitter battle between the Brumbies and the ARU over Harrison.
The ARU has refused to allow the Brumbies to sign Harrison as a local player. The ARU is within its rights to do this. The Roar understands, however, that the Brumbies will try to sign Harrison up as an overseas player, a right that the franchise may be able to exercise without the endorsement of the ARU.
But whether this tactic is open to the Brumbies management remains in doubt.
Harrison made his Super Rugby debut with the Brumbies in 1997. He became a Wallaby in 2001 in the third Test against the British and Irish Lions. His lineout snatch against the throw in the final minutes of the Test effectively ended the Lions fight-back.
He graduated with a Bachelor of Applied Science from the UNSW in 2008. In 2004 he played a season with the NSW Waratahs. He was accused of using racial slurs against the South African winger Chumani Booi in 2005.
Then he joined Ulster and earned a reputation as a sledger. He joined Bath in 2008 and left in May this year. A RFU disciplinary panel charged him and three other players with ‘conduct prejudicial to the interests of the game.’ Harrison was banned from playing or coaching rugby until January 13, 2010 after he admitted taking cocaine and fighting with a member of the Harlequins playing staff.
The ARU, apparently, believe that a player with this sort of record should not be given a contract to play Super 14 rugby for an Australian franchise. This year the ARU has taken tough action to clean up the behaviour of a number of players. Harrison has been a serial offender in the past and the ARU is unwilling to give him a further chance to play rugby in Australia.
The Brumbies case is that Harrison has served his suspension and that he has pleaded for a chance for redemption.
There is, moreover, a shortage of tough, experienced second-rowers in Australian rugby, and in the Brumbies franchise. With Matt Giteau coming back to control a backline loaded with talent, the Brumbies say they need a tough enforcer, a Brumbies equivalent of Bakkies Botha, to provide the grunt and the muscle in the forwards for the backs to work off.
Whether the Brumbies get their enforcer, though, depends on how successful they are in their off-the-field fight with the ARU.
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Knives Out said | November 29th 2009 @ 2:59am | Report comment
Mmm… this is intriguing. Harrison seemed to flourish in Australia prior to his departure to Europe, and I’m sure he will again. His ‘type’ seems to be far more willingly accepted in that part of the world
It was well known in Bath what he got up to on a regular basis so unless Harrison has undergone a massive personality change then I can’t see what is in it for the Brumbies/Australia.
pothale said | November 29th 2009 @ 4:58am | Report comment
Tough as a plank second-rower?
Some delicate wordplay by the Roar, methinks. I think when he was christened Plank that’s not the comparitor the author had in mind.
Knives Out said | November 29th 2009 @ 5:47am | Report comment
I love this enforcer chat. He was brutalised in Europe and apparently Will Skinner nearly punched him all the way back to Australia during the Harlequins v Bath bar brawl.
anopinion said | November 29th 2009 @ 9:44am | Report comment
An enforcer is not some one who can brawl. Rather it refers to a player that protects the quality of the ball as it emerges from the ruck and maul. They do this by entering the breakdown with force and using good technique or strength to prevent or deter the opposition from disrupting the breakdown structure.
Knives Out said | November 29th 2009 @ 8:58pm | Report comment
I’m aware of that, which is why I noted that he was brutalised in Europe. He’s a pretend enforcer, a never-was. The reference to him getting bashed highlights this, as the incident illustrated a self-perception that he was tougher than he was, something that was also true of his time on the rugby pitch.
anopinion said | November 29th 2009 @ 9:40pm | Report comment
With Harrison captaining the Ulster team they won their championship in 2006 (I think the year is right). Bath won the European Championship Cup in 2008 with Justin in the team. The Wallabies beat the Lions with him in the pack and he started in a WC final.
You perhaps are a bit harsh on JH as he seems to have achieved more than most, teams do not do well with soft second rows.
Knives Out said | November 29th 2009 @ 9:43pm | Report comment
So are you suggesting that he was solely responsible for the success of these teams?
Incidentally, Bath did not win the 2008 ECC with Harrison in the side.
anopinion said | November 29th 2009 @ 10:00pm | Report comment
KO,
I am suggesting that teams with “never was” players in the forward pack do not do well at the pointy end of the season. Teams he has played in have done well, this suggests to me that he is quite a useful player both skill and strength.
This is a quote from Eddie Jones.
“Justin is a bright footballer. One of the brightest, I reckon. It’s just that he had a pretty tough upbringing out there in the middle of nowhere and drew on it in his rugby. They’re the best players, the hungry ones. People like Justin make a team what it is.” http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-union/club-rugby/justin-harrison-younger-players-arent-always-better-than-the-older-ones-1667223.html
anopinion said | November 29th 2009 @ 10:33pm | Report comment
You are correct. JH was not part of the winning team in 2008. He joined the team later that year. I am unable to find any information as to how he played.
Amband said | December 7th 2009 @ 3:32pm | Report comment
I’ve looked at some info on the net about that brawl and see nothing about harrison copping a flogging from a 5′11 bloke named ‘Skinner”
Pippinu said | November 29th 2009 @ 6:53am | Report comment
Guys – it’s still big news – on two fronts:
1. That the Brumbies have managed to get another big signature over their two big local rivals; and
2. That the ARU would decide to step in and stop the Brumbies from making a perfectly legitimate signing.
The anti-Canberra mentality remains alive and well in the ARU – you’d would have thought that the time had finally arrived for the ACT to actually receive some favourable treatment on the rugby front from those Pitt St farmers.
Knives Out said | November 29th 2009 @ 8:24am | Report comment
As a non-Australian I’ll keep the context in mind. Thanks.
Chris said | November 29th 2009 @ 10:50am | Report comment
Wouldn’t be the first time the ARU did their all to destroy the Brumbies. Amazing how the Brumbies are still Australias best team. Go the Brumbies! Go Justin Harrison, you legend!
Pete said | November 29th 2009 @ 2:34pm | Report comment
PIP, anti-Canberra mentality, com’on, seriously. If the ARU had blocked Giteau or Elsom going to the ACT, then I think you’d have a case, but not Harrison.
I’m afraid there is too much paranoia amongst some Brumby supporters. Did the Waratahs claim the ARU was against them when they blocked Tiquiri playing with NSW after his ARU contract was torn up? Did the Reds claim the ARU were out to get them when they tried to sign Tiquiri as an amateur, which the ARU blocked. Did the Waratahs cry foul when the ARU blocked Andrew Johns signing with the Tahs?
Like it or not, the ARU is making decisions which it sees are in the best interest of the code. Putting aside Harrisons recent indescretions – Signing a 36 yr old who won’t be there in 2011 is not in the best interest of the code. He will block the path for an up and coming player.
If I was a Brumbies fan, and the Brumbies were looking to fill their overseas player quota, you’d have to ask is Harrison the best overseas player you can find?
Cattledog said | December 1st 2009 @ 10:20pm | Report comment
Good reasoned argument Pete. Seems everyone cries fowl of the ARU. Thank God there’s someone there keeping some of the lunatic decisions in focus.
Red Rooster said | November 30th 2009 @ 3:13pm | Report comment
Please Pip you are better than that. Dont think that Harrison wasn’t hawked around to all the teams so he could achieve some sort of redemption. This was not a race to sign an up and coming player, rather a risk taking venture that the Brumbies were happy to participate in. He is best mates with some of their coaches so it is not hard to see how it came together. The word is they only signed him because Kimlins injury is bad so if he wasn’t crook then they wouldn’t have signed him. The fact the ARU is not keen is no surprise and everyone knows that this would be the ARU reaction
Hammer said | November 30th 2009 @ 3:16pm | Report comment
Oh he was hawked alright…
Pippinu said | November 30th 2009 @ 3:27pm | Report comment
You don’t reckon the Tahs and Reds wouldn’t have given it a bit of thought?
I understand the circumstances – and surely that’s pretty good contingency planning?
Pete said | November 29th 2009 @ 6:42am | Report comment
Henjak was turfed out for a bar brawl. Sailor was suspended for 2 years for illicit drug use. If the ARU endorses Harrisons contract it would smack of double standards, so it didn’t. As much as I was impressed with Harrison’s perfromance during the 2001 Lions game, I can’t understand why the Brumbies would take such a risk with a player that will turn 36 at the start of next season.
Any idea why Sailor had a 2 year ban, whilst Harrison only had an 8 month ban?
Knives Out said | November 29th 2009 @ 6:46am | Report comment
Harrison’s ‘mistake’ wasn’t proved as he bravely fled England the day after the story broke and thus avoided a drug test. I believe that in subsequent interviews he only admitted to taking a substance he believed to be cocaine, and not that he had actually taken cocaine. The word from Bath is that he was a regular user, as were the Stevens, Lipman and Higgins.
anopinion said | November 29th 2009 @ 9:46am | Report comment
Sailor was caught with drugs in his system during the season. Thus performance enhancing.
Pete said | November 29th 2009 @ 2:36pm | Report comment
Harrison was lining up for a Barbarians game the following week so his drug use could be classed as performance enhancing as well. I have nothing gainst Harrison himself, I just don’t like drugs in sport.
anopinion said | November 29th 2009 @ 9:42pm | Report comment
He did not get caught in a drug test. This is the difference.
Campbell Watts said | November 30th 2009 @ 2:00pm | Report comment
Because he scuttled out of the country before a test could be conducted on him!!
Firestarter Bob said | November 29th 2009 @ 6:52am | Report comment
The Brumbies are lucky they aren’t a NRL club. Imagine the media hysterics if a NRL club tried to sign him with an off field record like that. Given the punishment Sailor got, the ARU are well within their rights to look after the code’s image.
ilikedahoodoogurusingha said | November 29th 2009 @ 7:52am | Report comment
As a Brumbies supporter I have to say that I am not too sure about this one…yes we need cover for Kimlin and his injury, but Harrison?
Pippinu said | November 29th 2009 @ 8:27am | Report comment
We know he can play – it becomes a question of whether he has got over his own personal afflictions – there’s plenty of evidence to suggest that as players get older and wiser they can improve in their off-field frailties.
Knives Out said | November 29th 2009 @ 8:28am | Report comment
I’m no overt conservative by any stretch but I’m peturbed how a 36 year old professional athlete could develop a drug addiction problem in such a small, rugby mad town like Bath. How do you suddenly start and then stop?
anopinion said | November 29th 2009 @ 9:51am | Report comment
Addiction? Has he claimed an addiction?
Knives Out said | November 29th 2009 @ 8:59pm | Report comment
It is reasonably well known in Bath that he Lipman, Stevens, Crockett and Higgins were regular drug takers.
Davey said | November 29th 2009 @ 10:21pm | Report comment
KO, I’m not saying you haven’t, but I hope you have some pretty good mail to make that call.
Pippinu said | November 29th 2009 @ 8:58am | Report comment
Knives
it’s nothing new – it happens all the time – such people need support – like anyone else in the community.
Knives Out said | November 29th 2009 @ 9:09am | Report comment
I agree with the support stance but if Harrison is to make such a mistake at his age (which is not to say that he hasn’t always had issues) then it takes a leap of faith to suggest that he would suddenly be on the straight and narrow. His career has been completely dogged by controversy (especially in England), and drugs aside I’m not sure if he’s a good man to have aboard.
Brett McKay said | November 29th 2009 @ 9:08am | Report comment
Guru, I’m in the same boat as you – this is theoretically a good sigining, but I’m not completely comfortable about it..
Campbell Watts said | November 29th 2009 @ 7:57am | Report comment
Goes to show the lack of depth in aussie rugby if they need to resign an old, grumpy, coke-snorting war horse like Googie!!
Severian said | November 29th 2009 @ 8:27am | Report comment
He’s not tough, but he’ll win the lineouts for them. If he breaks the rules again, deal with it then. We don’t have enough respectable quality tight forwards in Australia to be ignoring them.
The ARU did the right thing as far as their public stance goes, but they should be taking every reasonable measure behind the scenes to get him in a Brumbies jersey next year. The game is in serious trouble in Australia right now, and having the Brumbies play attractive rugby and be a genuine contender for next year’s super 14 will help turn that around.
I’m a Tahs supporter, btw.
Amband said | December 7th 2009 @ 3:36pm | Report comment
too many Queenslanders in the team. We need more brumbie and Randwick players, and get away from Private school preferences
Firestarter Bob said | November 29th 2009 @ 8:28am | Report comment
Pippinu I think it is in fact more accurate to say “The anti-drugs mentality remains alive and well in the ARU”. Nothing to do with anti-Canberra.
Pippinu said | November 29th 2009 @ 10:08am | Report comment
As Cosmos says below – if NSW or QLD had got the signature the ARU would have let it happen!
Lorry said | November 29th 2009 @ 9:01am | Report comment
I’ve never understood this incredibly conservative attitude to RECREATIONAL drug use by athletes. If it doesn’t affect them on the field or at training, on what grounds can they be hung out to dry by the club, media etc?
How would you like it if you were constantly and randomly drug tested at work? If one has to operate heavy machinery, I understand but, if not….
Former Wallaby Peter Fitzsimmons (one of the few rugby-loving lefties, along with Mike Carlton) is the only person I’ve heard speaking out against recreational drug-testing and how unfair it is.
And let me just anticipate a response to what I’ve said: Yes, they do get paid alot, but then why don’t we test, say, politicans, corporate high-flyers etc. These people are also ‘role-models’.
The AFL has the best policy of the three football codes to illicit drug-use although I still believe compulsory drug-testing is an infringement on one’s civil liberties.
Viscount Crouchback said | November 29th 2009 @ 9:39am | Report comment
Are they crackers? Harrison was bog standard on the field in Europe and a complete liability off it. And what is he now? 45? Heavens above, one could understand some desperate English club – with their penchant for geriatrics – taking on the fellow, but an Aussie franchise? Utter madness.
anopinion said | November 29th 2009 @ 9:56am | Report comment
My tongue in cheek reply is, wouldn’t the Wallabies love to have a bog standard second rower in the team this year.
pothale said | November 29th 2009 @ 9:45am | Report comment
He’ll probably be appointed Captain of the Melbourne Fifths by the end of the season.
cosmos forever said | November 29th 2009 @ 10:06am | Report comment
As a Brumbies man it’s a dud signing but maybe they think getting him home will help settle him down. And from memory he probably played at the Kookaburras pre-S14 era with Friend so I reckon they have a pretty good relationship.
Brumbies should probably adopt the Raiders No D-Head policy on this one though…
Agree on one thing though – if NSW or QLD got the signature the ARU would have let it happen!
Pippinu said | November 29th 2009 @ 10:07am | Report comment
He’s 35 years of age – will turn 36 a couple of months into the season – admittedly, that’s getting a bit long in the tooth to be playing at this level – still worth a bit of a gamble for one more season (if it isn’t costing the Earth).
Bay35Pablo said | November 29th 2009 @ 11:08am | Report comment
The problem is he’s done his 8 month suspension. Penalty paid.
The ARU is essentially trying to tell the Brumbies how to recruit and run their team. The ARU gets to decide who is acceptable and not on non-rugby playing bases?
I’m not happy about Goog returning, as I think he has done his dash (didn’t he announce he was retiring from rugby, which may have softened the penalty given), but the ARU’s tendency to micro-manage does get annoying.
JezNez said | November 29th 2009 @ 11:27am | Report comment
Hats off ARU, they are actually doing the Brumbies a favour. If the Brumbies need a new second rower they should chase down the former Aussie Schoolboy Hayden Smith now playing for Saracens. Six years out of school and surely a better option than Googie who always had a good lineout but not much else.
Pippinu said | November 29th 2009 @ 11:52am | Report comment
Might be a question of money as well.
Chris said | November 29th 2009 @ 1:15pm | Report comment
I don’t think the Brumbies – the only Australian team to have actually won anything – need advice from the ARU. The ARU have hated the Brumbies from the very beginning. If the Brumbies want to sign an ex-player then who the hell are the ARU to say no.
Pete said | November 29th 2009 @ 2:43pm | Report comment
“who the hell are the ARU to say no”… ummm the guys that run the game in this country… and the ones that negotiate the TV deals that provide the provinces with the income to sign these players…
Sportym said | November 29th 2009 @ 11:11pm | Report comment
The ARU run the game? I actually believe all that is wrong with rugby in oz starts at the very top and that is the ARU.
Brett McKay said | November 29th 2009 @ 3:42pm | Report comment
…and they’re the ones that provide the funding to the state unions, which ultimately get used to run Super rugby sides. Call them ’shareholders’ if you like..
Chris said | November 29th 2009 @ 7:10pm | Report comment
Oh – you mean the money that the game generates on the back of the players that the state unions produce? Seriously – if the bloke has done his time then I say let him be. I think the ARU would be pissing into a stiff wind on this one. The restraint on trade laws would almost certainly back Harrison and the Brumbies.
Harry said | November 29th 2009 @ 3:38pm | Report comment
he ARU need to ban him playing for the Brums, then Qld can sign him, but that ouls have been a smart pragmatic thing to do so we can’t expect that from the Reds.
Chris said | November 29th 2009 @ 7:13pm | Report comment
The same Queensland team that has consistently turned out horrible results with brilliant players (Latham, Eales, Kefu, Barnes). Send him there so he can stew in the heap of mediocrity that is the Queensland Reds.
Comrade Bear said | November 30th 2009 @ 2:25pm | Report comment
No thanks! Don’t want him – don’t need him.
Plenty of good young locks coming through at the Reds.
Hammer said | November 29th 2009 @ 6:46pm | Report comment
He’s done his time… We need some starch in Aus rugby and if, as I suspect he is not being paid very much, he will want to demonstrate his better side. He will only get one chance to redeem himself and this chance is it. He is still much loved in the ACT not just by Friendy. So if he spits in the eye of the Brumbies by continuing this type of off field form he will have no home.
I think he will be good for Rugby by taking a mentoring (Rugby) approach to all of the young locks in Aust. He is tough and skilled, he just needs to get his behaviour in line with the high expectations of his team and fans and he might eventually retire with some reasonable reputation left.
As an Aussie I will always give a person another go if I think they are fair dinkum!
Gatesy said | November 29th 2009 @ 7:21pm | Report comment
Can’t believe the ARU would try to stop him. It might even be a restraint of trade. It’s not like he’s going to be pushing for Wallaby selection, so what’s the problem. It’s just another attempt by Sydney interests to bash the Brumbies – bugger off, ARU!!
Chris said | November 29th 2009 @ 9:06pm | Report comment
To right. He isn’t going to be a front line player – just add a bit of depth to the Brumby team. I would have thought the ARU would want the Aussie teams to have every advantage possible over their rivals. It’s not like the Brumbies are asking the ARU to pay millions of dollars to recruit league players for them (like Sailor, Rogers, Tquiri, Blacklock and Tahu for the Waratahs). Did the ARU buy the Brumbies any League stars? The ARU would be hoping this doesn’t go to court because it is almost certainly a restraint of trade.
Knives Out said | November 29th 2009 @ 10:17pm | Report comment
‘KO,
I am suggesting that teams with “never was” players in the forward pack do not do well at the pointy end of the season. Teams he has played in have done well, this suggests to me that he is quite a useful player both skill and strength.
This is a quote from Eddie Jones.
“Justin is a bright footballer. One of the brightest, I reckon. It’s just that he had a pretty tough upbringing out there in the middle of nowhere and drew on it in his rugby. They’re the best players, the hungry ones. People like Justin make a team what it is.” http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-union/club-rugby/justin-harrison-younger-players-arent-always-better-than-the-older-ones-1667223.html‘
Justin Harrison is a player who had a few years in the spotlight. He was a solid performer for ACT and Australia but never world class, or anywhere near it for that matter. He never was an enforcer. Never. During his period of enforcement Australia had their weakest pack in decades. That he gained so many caps speaks volumes for the depth of Australian forward play at the point. He was solid at Ulster, which is no great recognition given how woeful they were during his time there, and he was a complete non-entity at Bath. He had neither the skill to prosper at 5, nor the strength to prosper at 4.
N.B. Realistically, the only team he has been in that has done well is ACT.
Pippinu said | November 30th 2009 @ 8:16am | Report comment
“N.B. Realistically, the only team he has been in that has done well is ACT. ”
KO – but in the Australian context – that’s saying a lot!!
Campbell Watts said | November 30th 2009 @ 2:13pm | Report comment
Enforcer – no!
I’d call him a niggler more than anything. Yap yap yap! Always had something to say!
Anoying little twat he was!
Wylie said | November 30th 2009 @ 8:13am | Report comment
He’s still got lots of friends in Canberra and will be a good temporary replacement for Kimlin. I think he’ll make a positive contribution despite his age. I heard him on local radio this morning and he said when he got the call from Andrew Fagan it was the first time for ages he hadn’t felt ashamed.
Still – it’s a pity about Kimlin. he was looking good towards the end of last season.
Jameswm said | November 30th 2009 @ 9:02am | Report comment
Can someone explain to me how the Brumbies are still the best S14 side in Australia?
Geez, the Canberra paranoia…
Hammer said | November 30th 2009 @ 3:15pm | Report comment
Jimmy… you know!
JezNez said | November 30th 2009 @ 10:12am | Report comment
Harrison ‘the enforcer’ is a myth. JH played with Owen Finegan down at the Brumbies – Finegan had two nicknames Melon and The Pest, the second of these was for his ability to get under the skin of opposing teams. When Melon left Harrison decided someone had to take over the mantle and started playing like an idiot. I’m a long suffering Tahs fan (tautology?) but when I watched Philipo Levi rearrange JH’s face in a match against the Highlanders at the SFS I nearly cheered for the opposition.
Plank as rightly pointed out above is not a complimentary nickname, it was about his workrate and contribution to the team being about the level put in by a piece of wood. He was an excellent lineout option but his open field and ruck/maul play was sub-standard and I always thought his lack of weight was adding to our scrum woes. (although the front row needs to take the major blame – see Wallaby and Tahs scrums going forward with Mumm in them this year).
As to who is right or wrong – not sure. If the IRB says he is eligible then the Brumbies can seemingly pick him but the ARU has built a track record of removing people from the professional game that bring it into disrepute. Personally I fall on the side of the ARU.
Have the two guys plucked from the club ranks for the second row on this tour got S14 spots yet? I know one of them was let go by the Tahs. They should be signed up first.
Pete said | November 30th 2009 @ 12:25pm | Report comment
I see in the SMH today that Harrison has signed with the Brumbies for 2010. He appears genuinely remorseful. Smarter and more informed people than I at the Brumbies and ARU recognise that Harrison has served his ban and will provide a worthwhile contribution to the team for the season. I wish him well for his return.
Chris said | November 30th 2009 @ 12:44pm | Report comment
We all saw what Dell did when he got his chance at the Dragons. Harrison seems to realise that this is his only chance to go out on a high – and from what I have read he seems determined to do just that. Good on him and good on the Brumbies for giving him that chance.
Barking Glider said | November 30th 2009 @ 12:51pm | Report comment
Dell had a public media “mea maxima culpa” conference where he apologised and then he spent two years being ostracised by everyone and pondering his errors and future.
Meanwhile Harrison has escaped any examination by the Australian media and not been punished anywhere near as severely.
He deserves no sympathy.
Hammer said | November 30th 2009 @ 2:49pm | Report comment
Too late folks the deal is done! Old, soft, druggie, racist, mouth, slow, pain in the a@#se rugby dinosaur,,, whatever he is he will give the competition some much needed character by outplaying, out talking ALL of his peers in the S14. Love him or hate him he has one shot at redemption and I am sure he will give it his best shot (no pun intended)and put some of the pretenders in their place.
JezNez said | December 2nd 2009 @ 9:47am | Report comment
Mate, I suspect he will do the same thing Nathan Sharpe does and jog to that first post defensive role one off the ruck all game. Would love to be proved wrong…
crashy said | December 3rd 2009 @ 4:05pm | Report comment
most importantly – does that mean we’ll see the big fella at TJ Milner?
Amband said | December 7th 2009 @ 3:18pm | Report comment
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” He was accused of using racial slurs against the South African winger Chumani Booi in 2005.”
So what. It’s between Harrison and the alleged recipient of the insult
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“Then he joined Ulster and earned a reputation as a sledger”
He’d be an asset to the Oz cricket team
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“after he admitted taking cocaine and fighting with a member of the Harlequins playing staff.”
Oh dear. Of course both those things should be frowned upon. Surely this should not stand in the way of his career. He’s a wonderful player
I would say, after recent revelations, Tiger Woods is morally worse, but bloody lucky too