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		<title>By: Crosscoder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crosscoder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 00:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah righton Dave LOL,as if they the IC are going to rid themsleves of intnls.One of the reasons players aspire is to reach SOO and representing your country.Any administrator worth his salt knows,intnls are one(the final) of the building blocks in the game.
That is the reason the ARL have 2 votes on input and electing commissioners,to ensure the grassroots and intnls are protected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah righton Dave LOL,as if they the IC are going to rid themsleves of intnls.One of the reasons players aspire is to reach SOO and representing your country.Any administrator worth his salt knows,intnls are one(the final) of the building blocks in the game.<br />
That is the reason the ARL have 2 votes on input and electing commissioners,to ensure the grassroots and intnls are protected.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goodbye to international rugby league and say hello to more NRL and more pre season rep and sorry day games.</description>
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		<title>By: M1tch</title>
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		<dc:creator>M1tch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thursday March 11 a great day for the game of Rugby League

&#039;An ARL board today has formally agreed in principle to a model put forward by News Limited.
The move all but seals the introduction of a new eight-member commission to run rugby league.
News Limited and the ARL will now step aside.
The ARL is due to release a press statement with additional details this afternoon.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thursday March 11 a great day for the game of Rugby League</p>
<p>&#8216;An ARL board today has formally agreed in principle to a model put forward by News Limited.<br />
The move all but seals the introduction of a new eight-member commission to run rugby league.<br />
News Limited and the ARL will now step aside.<br />
The ARL is due to release a press statement with additional details this afternoon.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sth Auckland First XV</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/01/new-rugby-league-commission-is-just-more-of-the-same/comment-page-6/#comment-284290</link>
		<dc:creator>Sth Auckland First XV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was so much hype about this commission being a &quot;New Dawn&quot;, but in actual fact, 16 blokes have written their signature on a piece of paper and nothing will change. This Commission is just a smokescreen to focus people&#039;s attention away from the real issues facing league, namely the likelihood that it will not survive the next decade or two. The NRL crow about how 2009 was the best year it&#039;s ever had, and yet the major stakeholder in the game, News Limited, is pulling out. Doesn&#039;t anyone smell a rat here? League is not a game with strong foundations - News Limited&#039;s takeover of league was a sign of a weak sport, not a strong one - there&#039;s no way News Limited could take control of rugby union or cricket worldwide for example. Those shaky league foundations are still there. Why do you think Crowe has bought Souths. Crowe&#039;s a Rugby Union supporter from way back. He&#039;s a kiwi for God&#039;s sake! It won&#039;t surprise me if his long term aim is to bring Souths back to their rightful home in the Australian Rugby Union. I just don&#039;t think the average league supporter understands how much danger their game is in. The News Limited gravy train is drying up fast. That&#039;s why the 16 clubs are trying to move fast on this...watch this space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was so much hype about this commission being a &#8220;New Dawn&#8221;, but in actual fact, 16 blokes have written their signature on a piece of paper and nothing will change. This Commission is just a smokescreen to focus people&#8217;s attention away from the real issues facing league, namely the likelihood that it will not survive the next decade or two. The NRL crow about how 2009 was the best year it&#8217;s ever had, and yet the major stakeholder in the game, News Limited, is pulling out. Doesn&#8217;t anyone smell a rat here? League is not a game with strong foundations &#8211; News Limited&#8217;s takeover of league was a sign of a weak sport, not a strong one &#8211; there&#8217;s no way News Limited could take control of rugby union or cricket worldwide for example. Those shaky league foundations are still there. Why do you think Crowe has bought Souths. Crowe&#8217;s a Rugby Union supporter from way back. He&#8217;s a kiwi for God&#8217;s sake! It won&#8217;t surprise me if his long term aim is to bring Souths back to their rightful home in the Australian Rugby Union. I just don&#8217;t think the average league supporter understands how much danger their game is in. The News Limited gravy train is drying up fast. That&#8217;s why the 16 clubs are trying to move fast on this&#8230;watch this space.</p>
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		<title>By: Sth Auckland First XV</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sth Auckland First XV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You league supporters are in DREAMLAND!! You guys constantly talk about a new team in NZ, Wellington, but there is no support for a second NRL team in NZ. If there was, the NRL would have done it already. Wellington already have well-supported Super 14 and NPC Union teams. They have the A-League soccer, and of course the All Blacks roll into town every now and then. The market is saturated with high quality sport. The last Kiwi v Kangaroo test there drew less than 10,000, less than 33% stadium capacity, and most of those tickets were free giveaways to Rugby Union members. No one is interested in NRL in Wellington (in fact outside of South Auckland). Face it, the only place the NRL can expand into is PNG but who wants to go into a country where 99% of the people don&#039;t have enough money to buy a flushing toilet??? Wake up and smell the coffee please!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You league supporters are in DREAMLAND!! You guys constantly talk about a new team in NZ, Wellington, but there is no support for a second NRL team in NZ. If there was, the NRL would have done it already. Wellington already have well-supported Super 14 and NPC Union teams. They have the A-League soccer, and of course the All Blacks roll into town every now and then. The market is saturated with high quality sport. The last Kiwi v Kangaroo test there drew less than 10,000, less than 33% stadium capacity, and most of those tickets were free giveaways to Rugby Union members. No one is interested in NRL in Wellington (in fact outside of South Auckland). Face it, the only place the NRL can expand into is PNG but who wants to go into a country where 99% of the people don&#8217;t have enough money to buy a flushing toilet??? Wake up and smell the coffee please!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sth Auckland First XV</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/01/new-rugby-league-commission-is-just-more-of-the-same/comment-page-5/#comment-284283</link>
		<dc:creator>Sth Auckland First XV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know where the NRL are going to play as we have ALL BLACKS, tri-nations, Super 14 and Rugby National Championship here, not to mention A-League football. There&#039;s no room to play NRL here and most Kiwis don&#039;t watch NRL anyway. Another NRL supporter in dreamland. Let&#039;s face it the NRL has no international muscle at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know where the NRL are going to play as we have ALL BLACKS, tri-nations, Super 14 and Rugby National Championship here, not to mention A-League football. There&#8217;s no room to play NRL here and most Kiwis don&#8217;t watch NRL anyway. Another NRL supporter in dreamland. Let&#8217;s face it the NRL has no international muscle at all.</p>
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		<title>By: oikee</title>
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		<dc:creator>oikee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 01:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough Col, if anything, i would rather see Bears in, Manly out. Yes i have just been onto the AFL site and given them a look at the future, instead of spending hundreds of millions on old stadium, just build a brand new one in Brisbane, the only city that does not have a 80-100 thousand stadium. We have the builders, best stadium builders in the world, and we need more than just patch work to look good. Anyhow, we will see if any dinosaurs in the government dont realise that this is a oppotunity to build something special. 
Brisbane has the port area and could build a stadium right out over part of moreton bay. Turn the whole area into party central. :) Ships, (new docks) boats ferries, mono rails, clubs shops, access to the islands, access to the gold coast, it will have everything we need to promote to the world, but no, dinosaurs will just plug holes in old stadiums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough Col, if anything, i would rather see Bears in, Manly out. Yes i have just been onto the AFL site and given them a look at the future, instead of spending hundreds of millions on old stadium, just build a brand new one in Brisbane, the only city that does not have a 80-100 thousand stadium. We have the builders, best stadium builders in the world, and we need more than just patch work to look good. Anyhow, we will see if any dinosaurs in the government dont realise that this is a oppotunity to build something special.<br />
Brisbane has the port area and could build a stadium right out over part of moreton bay. Turn the whole area into party central. <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Ships, (new docks) boats ferries, mono rails, clubs shops, access to the islands, access to the gold coast, it will have everything we need to promote to the world, but no, dinosaurs will just plug holes in old stadiums.</p>
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		<title>By: Col the Bear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Col the Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t deter us oikee. at all. we will keep going and going and going.. gone to far now, and we are not taking a backward step anymore..the RL is changing almost daily ...it could be a different story next week.. what it is showing to me is that, there appears to be a power struggle going on somewhere.. News want to exit.. but looks like not sure how to do it....They do need some true independents running the Commission.Dr  Merv Cross name has been mentioned I see..he&#039;s not on the NRL board anymore and is highly commended in society..

Maybe there has been a bit fo a backlash with Colin Love.at the helm....

On the WC,Maybe what the NRL should do is try and and get along with the Soccer..and work out a solution.. whereas the AFL have taken a hard line..remember it&#039;s the federal govt who is pushing for the WC throwing in all the money for the bid.. might just work in the NRLs favour..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t deter us oikee. at all. we will keep going and going and going.. gone to far now, and we are not taking a backward step anymore..the RL is changing almost daily &#8230;it could be a different story next week.. what it is showing to me is that, there appears to be a power struggle going on somewhere.. News want to exit.. but looks like not sure how to do it&#8230;.They do need some true independents running the Commission.Dr  Merv Cross name has been mentioned I see..he&#8217;s not on the NRL board anymore and is highly commended in society..</p>
<p>Maybe there has been a bit fo a backlash with Colin Love.at the helm&#8230;.</p>
<p>On the WC,Maybe what the NRL should do is try and and get along with the Soccer..and work out a solution.. whereas the AFL have taken a hard line..remember it&#8217;s the federal govt who is pushing for the WC throwing in all the money for the bid.. might just work in the NRLs favour..</p>
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		<title>By: oikee</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/01/new-rugby-league-commission-is-just-more-of-the-same/comment-page-6/#comment-263543</link>
		<dc:creator>oikee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on Steve, let these posts through mate, it makes for good reading, listen to this one, Ken Arthurson,? Now dont get me wrong, but he is still making money from the game somewhere in QLD, this guy must have been sixty when i first started going to State of Origin, and he is still around somewhere running something, ? Mate, the game is being run and has been run by, not just dinosaurs, but living fossils. Dead set. 

Anyhow, back to packaging me birds for the leagues club, they need all the help they can get. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on Steve, let these posts through mate, it makes for good reading, listen to this one, Ken Arthurson,? Now dont get me wrong, but he is still making money from the game somewhere in QLD, this guy must have been sixty when i first started going to State of Origin, and he is still around somewhere running something, ? Mate, the game is being run and has been run by, not just dinosaurs, but living fossils. Dead set. </p>
<p>Anyhow, back to packaging me birds for the leagues club, they need all the help they can get. <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: oikee</title>
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		<dc:creator>oikee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop wasting your time Col, you might be better off starting up a a-league club, with the dinosaurs we have running the game, read below.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop wasting your time Col, you might be better off starting up a a-league club, with the dinosaurs we have running the game, read below.</p>
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		<title>By: oikee</title>
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		<dc:creator>oikee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So they had their meeting today, the ARL and News limited, and what have we found out, whoever wrote this article, you are spot on. Just more of the same. As a matter of fact, its that more of the same we wont be having another meeting about it for a month and a half,. And further more, to top it off, i see the old dinosaurs are out in force, all of which i thought were long gone. Ross livermore, John Quale, and many other mates of mates, all poking their nose into the limelight again. Why dont we just dig up dally, see if he wants onto the commission.

Hey Steve, do me a favor will you, no more Commission posts now for a least a year. And even then if we are any closer to a deal, like you said buddy, just more of the same. R.I.P rugby league. I am off, i have to get the chook raffles started up again. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So they had their meeting today, the ARL and News limited, and what have we found out, whoever wrote this article, you are spot on. Just more of the same. As a matter of fact, its that more of the same we wont be having another meeting about it for a month and a half,. And further more, to top it off, i see the old dinosaurs are out in force, all of which i thought were long gone. Ross livermore, John Quale, and many other mates of mates, all poking their nose into the limelight again. Why dont we just dig up dally, see if he wants onto the commission.</p>
<p>Hey Steve, do me a favor will you, no more Commission posts now for a least a year. And even then if we are any closer to a deal, like you said buddy, just more of the same. R.I.P rugby league. I am off, i have to get the chook raffles started up again. <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Col the Bear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Col the Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaredsbro; we have our official website up at  www.centralcoastbears.com.au  that is where the membership is and also merchandise. launched a couple of weeks ago
there is also the 50 000 bears supporter site.. at last count 11.750 members..

 on other news a quick turn around and Cronulla will field a team in the 12 team  NSW cup next year.. and the Bulls gone back to being Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs.. . comp extended to 25 rounds to coincide with the NRL.. seems the NSW RL are starting to get a move on now with the new commission about to kick off.. in 2011 Manly and canberra are also expected to return to the NSW Cup...other teams.. Balmain, Western suburbs, Newtown, Auckland, Melbourne,shellharbour dragons, windsor, wenty, and the Newcastle feeder club..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaredsbro; we have our official website up at  <a href="http://www.centralcoastbears.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.centralcoastbears.com.au</a>  that is where the membership is and also merchandise. launched a couple of weeks ago<br />
there is also the 50 000 bears supporter site.. at last count 11.750 members..</p>
<p> on other news a quick turn around and Cronulla will field a team in the 12 team  NSW cup next year.. and the Bulls gone back to being Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs.. . comp extended to 25 rounds to coincide with the NRL.. seems the NSW RL are starting to get a move on now with the new commission about to kick off.. in 2011 Manly and canberra are also expected to return to the NSW Cup&#8230;other teams.. Balmain, Western suburbs, Newtown, Auckland, Melbourne,shellharbour dragons, windsor, wenty, and the Newcastle feeder club..</p>
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		<title>By: Jaredsbro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaredsbro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Col is there a bidding website or something. Being a fan of the Red and Blacks (well the North Sydney Red and Blacks anyway ;) ) I&#039;d love to find out what&#039;s going on and when and what I can do (on this side of the dirch) and when

By the way why was the NRL working under any other system than a tender process: AFL, FFA (I think) and SANZAR all work under that kind of approach...was it something to do with overexpansion growing pains a la Superleague?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Col is there a bidding website or something. Being a fan of the Red and Blacks (well the North Sydney Red and Blacks anyway <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) I&#8217;d love to find out what&#8217;s going on and when and what I can do (on this side of the dirch) and when</p>
<p>By the way why was the NRL working under any other system than a tender process: AFL, FFA (I think) and SANZAR all work under that kind of approach&#8230;was it something to do with overexpansion growing pains a la Superleague?</p>
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		<title>By: oikee</title>
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		<dc:creator>oikee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest, i think 3 years and the next t/v deal with a new commission is enough time to build a warchest, if they really need a war chest. We have run on the smell of a oily rag now for a century, why do we need money. ? It only brings out a aggressive nature. I dont even want to see a NRL worried about other codes, just worry about making your own prioduct the best it can be, everyone will be happy. :)
They should bring back the bears, and have another team ready to go by then. If the storm are bought by someone, then Perth could be a good option for expansion. Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, i think 3 years and the next t/v deal with a new commission is enough time to build a warchest, if they really need a war chest. We have run on the smell of a oily rag now for a century, why do we need money. ? It only brings out a aggressive nature. I dont even want to see a NRL worried about other codes, just worry about making your own prioduct the best it can be, everyone will be happy. <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
They should bring back the bears, and have another team ready to go by then. If the storm are bought by someone, then Perth could be a good option for expansion. Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Col the Bear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Col the Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gallop probably won&#039;t be around in 2017 and onto other projects, isn&#039;t his tenure up in 3 years..probably helping out with the soccer world cup if Aust gets up..</description>
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		<title>By: Col the Bear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Col the Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2017  yes maybe for wellington and Perth or PNG ..it&#039;ll be 2013. for us. and thats what we are all working towards..As I said we are going to continue to fight and this time we are not walking away.. the 8 team commission will make the decision on the next 2 franchises.. our business plan will be second to none..you can&#039;t ignore 1 million people and 101 years of history..and as I said we still have a 20% stake in Blue tongue and playing rights for another 11 years.. are they going to sit by for another 11 years before putting another team at gosford..?? don&#039;t think so...

Flo is upbeat, jubilant and determined today.. to see this through..he said we&#039;re not taking one step backwards now, it&#039;s full steam ahead, and we won&#039;t stop until the CC Bears are in the NRL...and he has a great dedicated team behind him including very strong support from the Norths leagues club.. and thats a big help to us this time around...

David Fairleigh will be the first grade Coach thats a given.. not sure what capacity JT will be..that&#039;ll come later but he has given us a lot of support over the years, when he would continue to turn up at NSO to watch the Bears in the NSW Cup.. kicking Coach is always a good option.. Michael Buettner is also lending a lot of support,.. Now there&#039;s the guy who should run the CRL... he has a great track record being boss of the Toyota Cup..and he actually lives on the CC..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2017  yes maybe for wellington and Perth or PNG ..it&#8217;ll be 2013. for us. and thats what we are all working towards..As I said we are going to continue to fight and this time we are not walking away.. the 8 team commission will make the decision on the next 2 franchises.. our business plan will be second to none..you can&#8217;t ignore 1 million people and 101 years of history..and as I said we still have a 20% stake in Blue tongue and playing rights for another 11 years.. are they going to sit by for another 11 years before putting another team at gosford..?? don&#8217;t think so&#8230;</p>
<p>Flo is upbeat, jubilant and determined today.. to see this through..he said we&#8217;re not taking one step backwards now, it&#8217;s full steam ahead, and we won&#8217;t stop until the CC Bears are in the NRL&#8230;and he has a great dedicated team behind him including very strong support from the Norths leagues club.. and thats a big help to us this time around&#8230;</p>
<p>David Fairleigh will be the first grade Coach thats a given.. not sure what capacity JT will be..that&#8217;ll come later but he has given us a lot of support over the years, when he would continue to turn up at NSO to watch the Bears in the NSW Cup.. kicking Coach is always a good option.. Michael Buettner is also lending a lot of support,.. Now there&#8217;s the guy who should run the CRL&#8230; he has a great track record being boss of the Toyota Cup..and he actually lives on the CC..</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AndyRoo,

yeah I dont think Lara saying &quot;were the bloody hell are you!&quot; would go down particularly well. :-)

Redb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AndyRoo,</p>
<p>yeah I dont think Lara saying &#8220;were the bloody hell are you!&#8221; would go down particularly well. <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Redb</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Racheal Finch coulda cooked up a storm for them.</description>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if you go overtley sexual (not suggesting Jennifer is anything other than a nice girl from next door) then you put people offside like Mrs Warner who judging from the Brits handbag presents must be a big player.

Jenifer is more of an NRL girl (Knights fan) whils&#039;t Nicole is a Soccer Mom.
The Americans have sort of suffered from inserting fake fans who are big names in the past. plus it was a short film so someone who can act a bit is a big plus.

I am just glad it wasn&#039;t Lara Bingle or Quatar would beat us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if you go overtley sexual (not suggesting Jennifer is anything other than a nice girl from next door) then you put people offside like Mrs Warner who judging from the Brits handbag presents must be a big player.</p>
<p>Jenifer is more of an NRL girl (Knights fan) whils&#8217;t Nicole is a Soccer Mom.<br />
The Americans have sort of suffered from inserting fake fans who are big names in the past. plus it was a short film so someone who can act a bit is a big plus.</p>
<p>I am just glad it wasn&#8217;t Lara Bingle or Quatar would beat us.</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom line is for all the talk about how the AFL will benefit from a couple of upgraded grounds in Adelaide and Perth, the disruption, government funds, media attention, sponsor attrition,etc makes the WC bid a cost not a benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line is for all the talk about how the AFL will benefit from a couple of upgraded grounds in Adelaide and Perth, the disruption, government funds, media attention, sponsor attrition,etc makes the WC bid a cost not a benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely Jennifer Hawkins would have got the old fart&#039;s hearts at FIFA more excited than Nicole Kidman.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AR -

&#039;no worries&#039; then.

alas that doesn&#039;t quite cut it.

Hearing Jeff Kennett wavering on it.......that&#039;s very surprising from my perspective.  But, for now - the &#039;true believers&#039; can keep pushing the spin and assuming that FIFA officials only say nice things about Australia and no-one else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AR -</p>
<p>&#8216;no worries&#8217; then.</p>
<p>alas that doesn&#8217;t quite cut it.</p>
<p>Hearing Jeff Kennett wavering on it&#8230;&#8230;.that&#8217;s very surprising from my perspective.  But, for now &#8211; the &#8216;true believers&#8217; can keep pushing the spin and assuming that FIFA officials only say nice things about Australia and no-one else.</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reports in the Financial Review today suggest the MCG could be unavailable for 16 weeks!

So its gone from 4 to 8 to 12 to now 16 weeks. 

Bye bye support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reports in the Financial Review today suggest the MCG could be unavailable for 16 weeks!</p>
<p>So its gone from 4 to 8 to 12 to now 16 weeks. </p>
<p>Bye bye support.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tournament goes for 4 weeks and their needs to be 2 week preparation time
2 + 4 = 6 weeks.

AFL and NRL will still be allowed to be played in the same city.
The status of Super 15 because of it’s large international component is still unclear.

By 2022 State league teams, Football academies, the Parklea complex and the training venues HAL teams use will provide enough suitable training venues.
Perhaps for the bid because of the short time frame we might use Redb’s strategy of telling them it’s all ok now (and then work it out later) by nominating say Nth Melbourne’s training venue but between now and the World Cup every state league team that does any improvements between now and then will do so with FIFA requirements in mind in order to try and get Brazil or Argentina training at their ground.

It’s the no worries World Cup MC…..stop reading the Terrorgraph.

The 12 week is just thrown out their so that the 6 weeks (the real figure) doesn&#039;t seem so bad afterall. Remember how upset you guys were when you learnt about the two weeks prep time. Now you are begrudingly ok with 6 weeks :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tournament goes for 4 weeks and their needs to be 2 week preparation time<br />
2 + 4 = 6 weeks.</p>
<p>AFL and NRL will still be allowed to be played in the same city.<br />
The status of Super 15 because of it’s large international component is still unclear.</p>
<p>By 2022 State league teams, Football academies, the Parklea complex and the training venues HAL teams use will provide enough suitable training venues.<br />
Perhaps for the bid because of the short time frame we might use Redb’s strategy of telling them it’s all ok now (and then work it out later) by nominating say Nth Melbourne’s training venue but between now and the World Cup every state league team that does any improvements between now and then will do so with FIFA requirements in mind in order to try and get Brazil or Argentina training at their ground.</p>
<p>It’s the no worries World Cup MC…..stop reading the Terrorgraph.</p>
<p>The 12 week is just thrown out their so that the 6 weeks (the real figure) doesn&#8217;t seem so bad afterall. Remember how upset you guys were when you learnt about the two weeks prep time. Now you are begrudingly ok with 6 weeks <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AR -

if it were only 6 weeks then perhaps no big concern, although - still a big ask if the soccer side is unable to make concessions and provide compensation and the AFL/NRL are expected to be totally flexible.

if it were only 6 weeks.

But we know that&#039;s not the case - - not when you&#039;re nabbing the 12 primary playing venues for 8-10-12 weeks (which is it), 

and nabbing 32 high class training venues from whatever date the teams arrive and take up &#039;residence&#039; plus how much lead in buffer to prepare the surface,

and nabbing 24 simple training venues around each match venue,

and forcing other codes during their locked in domestic season to not just vacate grounds but to move out of town altogether........who is going to compensate me for having to travel to god knows where to see my team play their &#039;home&#039; games???  Why should I accept that?

The AFL and NRL - for all anyone might glibly state that it&#039;ll be okay and we can play games in NZ, or Tassie, or Darwin!!!.....but, why should (on current numbers) 550,000 paid up club members be forced to have to travel to such places.......I want compensation.

Let alone - that current costings sit b/w $6-8 billion to host - - it&#039;s a lot, a lot of money to exit the public purse with stuff all of it ever destined (even in a best case scenario) to head back there.  

I&#039;m with Springs.

(it&#039;s still a nice in principle idea - to host it, but, reality is that in a competitive market place, soccer just cannot hope to presently.....their bid is flawed without fed govt pulling some MAJOR rabbits out of the hat.....and the FFA should just host an Asian Cup first)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AR -</p>
<p>if it were only 6 weeks then perhaps no big concern, although &#8211; still a big ask if the soccer side is unable to make concessions and provide compensation and the AFL/NRL are expected to be totally flexible.</p>
<p>if it were only 6 weeks.</p>
<p>But we know that&#8217;s not the case &#8211; - not when you&#8217;re nabbing the 12 primary playing venues for 8-10-12 weeks (which is it), </p>
<p>and nabbing 32 high class training venues from whatever date the teams arrive and take up &#8216;residence&#8217; plus how much lead in buffer to prepare the surface,</p>
<p>and nabbing 24 simple training venues around each match venue,</p>
<p>and forcing other codes during their locked in domestic season to not just vacate grounds but to move out of town altogether&#8230;&#8230;..who is going to compensate me for having to travel to god knows where to see my team play their &#8216;home&#8217; games???  Why should I accept that?</p>
<p>The AFL and NRL &#8211; for all anyone might glibly state that it&#8217;ll be okay and we can play games in NZ, or Tassie, or Darwin!!!&#8230;..but, why should (on current numbers) 550,000 paid up club members be forced to have to travel to such places&#8230;&#8230;.I want compensation.</p>
<p>Let alone &#8211; that current costings sit b/w $6-8 billion to host &#8211; - it&#8217;s a lot, a lot of money to exit the public purse with stuff all of it ever destined (even in a best case scenario) to head back there.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m with Springs.</p>
<p>(it&#8217;s still a nice in principle idea &#8211; to host it, but, reality is that in a competitive market place, soccer just cannot hope to presently&#8230;..their bid is flawed without fed govt pulling some MAJOR rabbits out of the hat&#8230;..and the FFA should just host an Asian Cup first)</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be great if the Bears came back. JT is also helping them out, and ideally should be their first first-grade coach.

But 2017 is what Gallop is saying, so may want to wait until then. Unless you can prove that CC Bears will increase tv revenue, it aint gonna happen by 2013. 

Also - I have a feeling that the NRL by that stage will make it a tender process, so it will be quite competitive with NZ, PNG, QLD, CC, possibly WA bidding for inclusion. I suppose it can only be for the good of the game, but on a sentimental note, the Bears should be reinstated asap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be great if the Bears came back. JT is also helping them out, and ideally should be their first first-grade coach.</p>
<p>But 2017 is what Gallop is saying, so may want to wait until then. Unless you can prove that CC Bears will increase tv revenue, it aint gonna happen by 2013. </p>
<p>Also &#8211; I have a feeling that the NRL by that stage will make it a tender process, so it will be quite competitive with NZ, PNG, QLD, CC, possibly WA bidding for inclusion. I suppose it can only be for the good of the game, but on a sentimental note, the Bears should be reinstated asap.</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Col,

No doubt you&#039;ve seen this:
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/bears-will-keep-banging-on-the-nrl-door-20091202-k6cw.html  

Redb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Col,</p>
<p>No doubt you&#8217;ve seen this:<br />
<a href="http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/bears-will-keep-banging-on-the-nrl-door-20091202-k6cw.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/bears-will-keep-banging-on-the-nrl-door-20091202-k6cw.html</a>  </p>
<p>Redb</p>
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		<title>By: Paul J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deja Roo

It makes perfect sense to expand to the CC, don&#039;t worry it won&#039;t kill the Mariners. There are over 300K living at the CC and the CC Bears will help re engage the 700K living in North Sydney. It will bring back the rivalry game between the Bears and the Sea Eagles and the symbolism of reserecting a team killed off by RL darkest days will be huge.

The IC now gives Sydney clubs more chance than they ever had, they will be fine.

The ARL IC does have the balls, but won&#039;t have the money for at least 3 years, to expand into AFL heartland but they need to tick other boxes first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deja Roo</p>
<p>It makes perfect sense to expand to the CC, don&#8217;t worry it won&#8217;t kill the Mariners. There are over 300K living at the CC and the CC Bears will help re engage the 700K living in North Sydney. It will bring back the rivalry game between the Bears and the Sea Eagles and the symbolism of reserecting a team killed off by RL darkest days will be huge.</p>
<p>The IC now gives Sydney clubs more chance than they ever had, they will be fine.</p>
<p>The ARL IC does have the balls, but won&#8217;t have the money for at least 3 years, to expand into AFL heartland but they need to tick other boxes first.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On SportsTonight on 3AW they were speaking to Jeff Kennett tonight, very interesting,

need to remember about JGK that he&#039;s previously been highly involved with the old Soccer Australia, and as premier of Victoria he was seeking to bid to host the FIFA WC (but was warned off because Australia was also bidding for the Olympics and it was felt that a FIFA WC bid too would make the Chinese NOT vote for Australia for the Olympics.....well, Kennett pulled back....and the Chinese didn&#039;t vote for Sydney anyway!!).

So...Kennett states clearly that as a private citizen, he&#039;d absolutely LOVE to see Australia host the FIFA WC,

but, 

he has huge reservations, and he&#039;s been the most public supporter from the AFL &#039;camp&#039;.  It was interesting listening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On SportsTonight on 3AW they were speaking to Jeff Kennett tonight, very interesting,</p>
<p>need to remember about JGK that he&#8217;s previously been highly involved with the old Soccer Australia, and as premier of Victoria he was seeking to bid to host the FIFA WC (but was warned off because Australia was also bidding for the Olympics and it was felt that a FIFA WC bid too would make the Chinese NOT vote for Australia for the Olympics&#8230;..well, Kennett pulled back&#8230;.and the Chinese didn&#8217;t vote for Sydney anyway!!).</p>
<p>So&#8230;Kennett states clearly that as a private citizen, he&#8217;d absolutely LOVE to see Australia host the FIFA WC,</p>
<p>but, </p>
<p>he has huge reservations, and he&#8217;s been the most public supporter from the AFL &#8216;camp&#8217;.  It was interesting listening.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s 6 weeks on inconvenience abd then its back to the same old same old like it was 100 years prior to the WC and as it will be 100 years afterwards. a brief respite wont kill anyone.

Consider it half time in the history of AFL and NRL..... i assume no one will be watching RU by then :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s 6 weeks on inconvenience abd then its back to the same old same old like it was 100 years prior to the WC and as it will be 100 years afterwards. a brief respite wont kill anyone.</p>
<p>Consider it half time in the history of AFL and NRL&#8230;.. i assume no one will be watching RU by then <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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