Why rugby should be a thirteen man game
By runrugby, 5 Dec 2009 runrugby is a Roar Rookie
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What a disheartening year 2009 has been. The difference from past years is not the fact that the Wallabies have ridden a roller coaster of late. Rather, it is my indifference to the June tests that worries me.
It is an indifference that is shared across a wide range of fellow rugby tragics.
Each Sunday morning I get up early and head down to the beach to watch the nippers try their hearts out and learn the craft of water safety.
Each Sunday morning the dads gather to discuss the games they recorded and got up early for. Yet the dads don’t discuss the result so much, but rather how boring the current game is, and the comparative merits of rugby league.
These are dads who have grown up with union in the blood.
Maybe it is because we are saturated with an endless year of rugby.
Maybe it is the power of the remote control which glosses over the stoppages in play and focuses on the limited running rugby there is, or maybe it is simply time for the game to be remodelled, cognisant of a new viewing audience.
Personally, I find a lot of league boring. It feels like watching a basketball game, where teams run to each end only to chip or put an up-and-under kick to take the 50/50 gamble on who grounds the ball first.
But they have a point. Some league games are simply outstanding, where the ball is moved wide.
I think the solution is simple.
Sacrilegious as this statement is, I believe we should simply reduce the number of players to 13, by removing the flankers, instead of tinkering with the laws that only serve to further confuse and alienate the audience that they are trying to entertain. Why?
1) In 100 years of rugby, the field measurements have hardly changed; yet the power of today’s athletes mean that the pressure and timing on decisions, the width of defence, the girth of the front row, the length of the drop punt and the pace have all changed.
We have outgrown the surface. It is a bit like Shaq O’Neil playing on a basketball court where the ring is only 6ft high.
2) The breakdown would open up, as teams would not want to commit so many resources to each breakdown.
Each breakdown may result in the use of more backs, instead of forwards that would enable more space out wide – especially if the opposition gained a turnover. Let’s face it, we all love to see seagulling props have a run.
3) The backs would be given space to move – in particular closer to the ruck – opening up more angled runs.
Hopefully with more space, the backs would opt to run the ball, than simply kick for field position.
4) Players would generally be more fatigued, opening up more space as the game plays out.
5) It keeps the fundamentals of our game front and centre. I.e. the lineout and the scrum – albeit with less power or lift.
More tries could be made at the fringes of scrums where the attacking team is five metres out, instead of performing a drop goal, or Gary Owen.
Yes the pushover would be there, but it would be a confident team to have the backs leave their lines to join in.
My evidence is based around the simple fact that when you look at smaller, less powerful players such as schoolboy rugby levels – without the handling errors – or American high school football, rather than the NFL, the games are more expansive and enjoyable to watch.
I can appreciate that others would argue that this would send us down a path towards mirroring league; or that even league, with 13 players at hand, have built pretty formidable defence structures.
I would counter them by asking: what recent change to the rule books has guaranteed the willingness of teams to run the ball instead of kicking?
I just think it is time we address the elephant in the room and not continue to tinker with rules that I find difficult at times to explain to my wife – who, sadly, has had to support my rugby tragic condition.
We have a great game here. Let’s open it up to a broader audience, not enclose it to the few that appreciate the technicalities of it.
For the league die hards, you aren’t out of the woods either. Yes you had a brilliant year in 2009, but imagine the game with only 11 per side.
Let’s look forward to 2010.
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Barking Glider said | December 5th 2009 @ 5:50am | Report comment
“Why rugby should be a thirteen man game” – Rugby has been a thirteen man game for over a 100 years.
Can we please have a RU story on the Roar that for once refrains from diverting into the writer’s obvious bias and distate of rugby league.
Just one will do. Just one.
Let’s see if any RU writer on the Roar is up for the challenge.
Paley said | December 5th 2009 @ 6:36am | Report comment
It’s a nonsense isn’t it? We get:
Should rugby be a 13 man game – it already is.
When rugby went professional in 1995 – I have been watching professional rugby for 40 years
Leinster v Munster at Croke Park was the best attended game of club rugby ever – I have been to several better attended games of club rugby. In fact I went to one last year.
Barking Glider said | December 5th 2009 @ 7:19am | Report comment
I heard that Rugby 7s is the rugby game’s salvation. So I can only presume that 7 for RU is the right number, and not 15 and not 13.
rugbyfuture said | December 5th 2009 @ 12:31pm | Report comment
only in australia, but by that mark you’re admitting that Rugby is rugby union
Shahsan said | December 5th 2009 @ 7:53am | Report comment
The wirter obviously means rugby union. I thought this was accepted shorthand in Australia? ie rugby means rugby union and league means rugby league?
Barking Glider said | December 5th 2009 @ 7:54am | Report comment
Huh? A “league” is a sport?
Shahsan said | December 5th 2009 @ 8:04am | Report comment
I’m not saying it is right, I am just saying that is acceptable parlance in Australia. Look at the tab links at the top of the page, and in every newspaper in Australia, and on every sports show in the country.
Plus, the writer made the distinction in the eighth paragraph above.
rugbyfuture said | December 5th 2009 @ 9:07am | Report comment
yeh, play by home rules when a clear decision cant be applied and home in this case is rugby union as rugby and rugby league as league
Paley said | December 6th 2009 @ 7:23pm | Report comment
The internet is available globally. I don’t live in Australia and my local rugby club plays rugby league.
rugbyfuture said | December 6th 2009 @ 7:39pm | Report comment
so the internets home is the world, and there are more people in the world who speak of rugby as rugby union, than rugby league, and i was speaking of this page as a home before, as in it refers to rugby union as rugby and rugby league as league
Paley said | December 6th 2009 @ 3:23am | Report comment
Accepted by who? When rugby league players were banned from playing union because they were seen as professional rugby players did that not count in Australia?
Dean Pantio said | December 5th 2009 @ 1:25pm | Report comment
League is a 13 man game. This article is posted in the Rugby section, not the League section. Hope this helps with your understanding.
Matt Hymers said | December 8th 2009 @ 12:31am | Report comment
Anyone who thinks Rugby Union (the real rugby) should only have 13 men is a fool. If that is what you want then go and watch league. By and large the problem is not game, or the rules it is the way teams are coached to play the game. This is exemplified by the barbarians game last weekend. All it takes is the want to play the game in an attacking manner with the aim of scoring points rather than forcing mistakes to bring the game back to where it should be. Stop your complaining and focus on what is really wrong.
Matt said | December 8th 2009 @ 5:44am | Report comment
Everyone wants to play attractive rugby when there isn’t much on the line. But the Barbarians fixtures was a team of second stringers vs a team of superstars thrown together in a week. It wasn’t a test match and there wasn’t much on the line for winner, hence the attractive style.
If the AB’s had truely wanted to win then they would have played to their strengths, that is they had been drilled as a unit and had better structures in place. They could have played a territory based game and attacked the poorly officiated set pieces and forced the Barbarians to attack from deep and create turnovers. But, they instead played an attractive game themselves and lost.
So to hold the Barbarians game up as an example of why nothing’s wrong is more than a little naive. No one is saying that game CAN’T be attractive if both teams want to play expansively and there isn’t too much riding on the result. But as soon as it becomes a REAL match where teams are genuinely afraid of losing then conservatism reigns supreme as risk taking and attacking endeavour are inevitably punished by the laws and structure of the game.
I do watch some league (admittedly not much though), but just because it has 13 men doesn’t mean it would be the same sport. That’s just silly. If that were the case then 7′s rugby would be like Olympic Handball.
I’m not an advocate of change for changes sake. I genuinely belief that alternative rules need to be invetigated to help the game grow around the world and remain such a great sport to play and watch at all level, including professionally. That is the shop window of our game, the selling point to new fans where the skills and excitement of rugby need to be expressed. Currently the sport it is not meeting that goal as it should.
Gladstone said | December 5th 2009 @ 6:29am | Report comment
A good post, RunRugby, and many people will agree with you. High on the list of those who won’t are the members of most national rugby unions plus the IRU. The idea of lopping off one or two men has been bruited for the last 15 years at least and has been rubbished repeatedly. The 7 spot has now become the glamour position in rugby, and the 6 spot has its supporters because the fans like to see the big guys run the ball (Rocky’s try against Ireland).
There can’t be too many people – outside those conglomerations mentioned above – who don’t want to see the game improved. The laws don’t need tinkering with they need a radical overhaul, but this will only come about in the relatively near future if the RWC becomes a kick fest as may happen. Then you’ll have a world-wide audience tune-out, the sponsors will be mad, and the IRB will probably, at long last, be forced to act. Until then, get ready to crane your neck upwards for all next season. Lobby your local Union for law revisions because removing Richie and Pocock and Moody and Wallace is not gonna fly.
anopinion said | December 5th 2009 @ 8:26am | Report comment
How about we keep rugby as it is. Instead we play sideways on the field. Thus 60 metres long with 5 metre in goals. 100 metres across.
Barking Glider said | December 5th 2009 @ 8:39am | Report comment
I’d like to see that trialled!
Chris said | December 5th 2009 @ 1:46pm | Report comment
Would make the sideline conversion attempt pretty hard though!
Corey said | December 6th 2009 @ 12:10pm | Report comment
and see the stadiums made for that.
rugbyfuture said | December 5th 2009 @ 9:11am | Report comment
The flankers are probably the best forwards and most attractive parts of the modern game tough, they’re the most competitve, im a prop but its true, the true way to open up the game is by adjusting the rules, the fact is because of the contest at the breakdown, we need the forwards, whereas in league they’re all the same position anyway other than the fullback so it doesnt matter if they drop the flankers or any other position. also they are fairly important to defence and attack at the scrum and lineout
Shahsan said | December 5th 2009 @ 9:52am | Report comment
13-man rugby union has been an idea I have advocated for years. It is usually dismissed because of that dreaded number 13 (not superstition but because of of not wanting to become rugby league, which is riduculous as RL is a significantly different game). But for the ideas mentioend above by runrugby, I agree we shoudl drop two players. I suggest one flanker and one winger.
But at the end of teh day, I have also always argued that it is all about attitude and playing well, as last weekend’s internationals showed. If teams execute well and take the field intending to be positive, the game is still like no other on earth, no matter what the laws are and what the refs do.
rugbyfuture said | December 5th 2009 @ 10:00am | Report comment
but dropping a flanker would mean the scrums would turn so easily, i agree about the attitudes though
Shahsan said | December 5th 2009 @ 10:21am | Report comment
It’s all about the angle at which you push and where the teams place their flanker.
But better still, i shoudl have said “drop one backrower”. The remaning two backrowers can place themsleves at 8 or either flank to suit their needs.
Working Class Rugger said | December 5th 2009 @ 11:11am | Report comment
I’m for anything that place’s great emphasis on running Rugby. But at the moment the major thing that is hurting Rugby is the influence the ref in the game today. Too often we see the ref all to often. The sign of a good game apart from open play is when I cannot recall seeing the ref anymore than the minimum required. Wayne Barnes is one such ref whilst Jonathan Kaplan at times seems to think we all tune in to see him. The IRB should attempt to reduce their influence on the game before they change the format. Last weekend’s game’s proved there’s in fact nothing to much wrong with the game. Aus vs Wales was fantastic as was the AB’s vs France. Even the Ireland vs SA game was entertaining (thanks largely to the Irish backs and their endeavour). If we can get the ref’s on the same book allowing the game to flow and only intereferring when absolutely necessary then the game will be fine. Oh, and bring back the short arm for everything but Pro-fouls. Though make a couple of changes to it. One, you cannot call a scrum and two, you cannot kick it away. So basically a short arm would become a tap and run weapon.
sheek said | December 5th 2009 @ 11:45am | Report comment
It’s all relative, my dear fellow.
I’m referring to the field dimensions. We have a few more millenium to go before 30 human beings can’t fit inside a current standard size rugby pitch!
And if they’re stronger in defence, they’re also stronger in attack.
The problem is the laws, not the field dimensions, nor number of players. It’s the LAWS!!!
Attacking rugby needs to be encouraged. That means NOT having players fearful of conceding a penalty for God-knows-what…..
rugbyfuture said | December 5th 2009 @ 12:33pm | Report comment
HERE HERE!!!
Shahsan said | December 6th 2009 @ 8:43am | Report comment
I think you mean “hear, hear”.
Dean Pantio said | December 5th 2009 @ 1:30pm | Report comment
The problem isn’t the laws – the problem is the players and coaches. I’d rather see one magnificent try than a heap of backyard touch football types. It’s about earning the try, not having it gifted to you because you can’t pass, spot the gap or step and need another 20m to get around someone.
sheek said | December 5th 2009 @ 3:36pm | Report comment
Dean Pantio,
I’ll argue you here on a technicality. Players & coaches will ALWAYS be contrary, no matter what the laws – it’s in the nature of humans to be contrary.
So it comes back to the laws. Make them so that it minimizes the contrariness of humans. At present the rugby union laws make it too easy for players & coaches to be negative.
So endeth this sermon…..
Paul J said | December 5th 2009 @ 1:31pm | Report comment
runrugby
Nice article and you were not anti league, well done.
I like the idea of 13 players in rugby. I think the problem is that rugby is doing very well o/s, isn’t it? While Aussie rugby fans are screaming for change as rugby struggles against the other 3 codes here, international rugby is growing and there is less desire for change o/s.
bozo said | December 5th 2009 @ 10:58pm | Report comment
May be too much to ask of the contributor but was the reference the to “Gary Owen” as a kicker meant to refer to the Irish rugby team of Garryowen or to the Welsh playwright named Gary Owen, or was it just indicating the contributor was another drop kick?
MyGeneration said | December 6th 2009 @ 7:29am | Report comment
A ‘Gary Owen’ is an up-and-under. I don’t know the history of the term.
Gladstone said | December 6th 2009 @ 7:31am | Report comment
Bozo – Gary Owen, the writer, lives in Splott. I doubt the editors of The Roar would want any discussion of anybody who lives in Splott even if they lived in Upper Splott which is too close to utter Splott.