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	<title>Comments on: USA big winner from World Cup draw; not so Australia</title>
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		<title>By: Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did some digging - no word from SBS on commentators although I&#039;m guessing it&#039;ll be the locals they use. Will miss Simon Hill. He was great at the last WC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did some digging &#8211; no word from SBS on commentators although I&#8217;m guessing it&#8217;ll be the locals they use. Will miss Simon Hill. He was great at the last WC</p>
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		<title>By: Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Martin Tyler  with Espn any word on who we will be commentating for us on Sbs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Martin Tyler  with Espn any word on who we will be commentating for us on Sbs?</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don’t think Australian’s consider it easy. The Socceroos have even less star power than 06 now that we have lost Viduka.
It’s just not in the Australian nature to cry about the draw and accept we have no chance….. not like that poor South Korean bloke they showed on TWG when I thought they got a pretty fair group.

Perhaps it looks like a lack of respect from afar though. But it was only a month or so ago we were fretting about losing to Oman. We will save the tears and “woe is us” until the fat lady has sung.

As to Ghana I think we are hoping too catch them on an off day. If your dispationate about Australia&#039;s strengths it&#039;s our defensive organisation, physicality and aerial ability. The physicality wont&#039; worry Ghana but we are hoping the other two do..... but it&#039;s way too early to be talking about Ghana because their is the African Nations cup soon. If they win that it would be a huge statement, but conversley they could play badly and sack their coach and open the window for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t think Australian’s consider it easy. The Socceroos have even less star power than 06 now that we have lost Viduka.<br />
It’s just not in the Australian nature to cry about the draw and accept we have no chance….. not like that poor South Korean bloke they showed on TWG when I thought they got a pretty fair group.</p>
<p>Perhaps it looks like a lack of respect from afar though. But it was only a month or so ago we were fretting about losing to Oman. We will save the tears and “woe is us” until the fat lady has sung.</p>
<p>As to Ghana I think we are hoping too catch them on an off day. If your dispationate about Australia&#8217;s strengths it&#8217;s our defensive organisation, physicality and aerial ability. The physicality wont&#8217; worry Ghana but we are hoping the other two do&#8230;.. but it&#8217;s way too early to be talking about Ghana because their is the African Nations cup soon. If they win that it would be a huge statement, but conversley they could play badly and sack their coach and open the window for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Mattay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never said Germany were no good, but I don&#039;t put them up there with Brazil, Spain, Argentina, Italy, or even England, Holland or France.  There&#039;s nothing to fear about ze Germans (in my opinion).

And I keep trying to predict how this group will end up, but each of the 4 teams has a good reason why it will, and an equally good reason why it won&#039;t progress to the 2nd round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never said Germany were no good, but I don&#8217;t put them up there with Brazil, Spain, Argentina, Italy, or even England, Holland or France.  There&#8217;s nothing to fear about ze Germans (in my opinion).</p>
<p>And I keep trying to predict how this group will end up, but each of the 4 teams has a good reason why it will, and an equally good reason why it won&#8217;t progress to the 2nd round.</p>
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		<title>By: Parisien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parisien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mr cheese, just out of curiosity, are you a roquefort or stilton man? 

or perhaps cheddar but with bleu d&#039;auvergne aspirations...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mr cheese, just out of curiosity, are you a roquefort or stilton man? </p>
<p>or perhaps cheddar but with bleu d&#8217;auvergne aspirations&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Photon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Photon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a lot of people here, who are in for a big shock, Ghana progressed to round two of the last world cup and their under 20 side just won the world cup, the african sides&#039;will do well and have mega support at their games, Ivory Coast will probably knock Portugal out and Ghana and Nigeria should progress too. South Africa are outsiders, but will be better with Parreira, who will know how to go about beating Mexico and Uruguay. South Africa only lost one nil to Brazil in the 85 min of their confed semi and were competitive against the Spaniards. Anyway can&#039;t wait till next year, I think Spain could win it this time, they looked the business during Confed and have been the most consistent side scince the last world cup. Brazil look good, the Germans and italians will be there and there about, my dark horses are Nigeria and Ghana, possibly the Ivorians. P.s. Personally I hope Germany wins their group and the Poms come second in theirs caus then it&#039;s Germany England in round 2 in Bloem, which is where I live, and with my new employers being world cup sponsors can you say Complimentary tickets baby, but I&#039;m getting ahead of myself</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a lot of people here, who are in for a big shock, Ghana progressed to round two of the last world cup and their under 20 side just won the world cup, the african sides&#8217;will do well and have mega support at their games, Ivory Coast will probably knock Portugal out and Ghana and Nigeria should progress too. South Africa are outsiders, but will be better with Parreira, who will know how to go about beating Mexico and Uruguay. South Africa only lost one nil to Brazil in the 85 min of their confed semi and were competitive against the Spaniards. Anyway can&#8217;t wait till next year, I think Spain could win it this time, they looked the business during Confed and have been the most consistent side scince the last world cup. Brazil look good, the Germans and italians will be there and there about, my dark horses are Nigeria and Ghana, possibly the Ivorians. P.s. Personally I hope Germany wins their group and the Poms come second in theirs caus then it&#8217;s Germany England in round 2 in Bloem, which is where I live, and with my new employers being world cup sponsors can you say Complimentary tickets baby, but I&#8217;m getting ahead of myself</p>
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		<title>By: Colin N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;(and the English have the nerve to say we Aussies had it easy!)&quot;

Because you did. In terms of England&#039;s qualifying, Ukraine and Crotia are better sides than any of the Asia sides. The same goes for Russia in Germany&#039;s group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(and the English have the nerve to say we Aussies had it easy!)&#8221;</p>
<p>Because you did. In terms of England&#8217;s qualifying, Ukraine and Crotia are better sides than any of the Asia sides. The same goes for Russia in Germany&#8217;s group.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 13:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They generally reach the QFs and then get knocked out by a technically superior team.&quot;

I thought England were the better side in the 06 Quarter-Final against Portugal. Even though it was generally a pretty dour game, they still played with more ambition than their opponents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They generally reach the QFs and then get knocked out by a technically superior team.&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought England were the better side in the 06 Quarter-Final against Portugal. Even though it was generally a pretty dour game, they still played with more ambition than their opponents.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Rational</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Rational</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 13:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Eriksson and the English were ambushed that night. Eriksson introduced the Continental idea that friendlies were not to be taken too seriously (in the past the English had always played them pretty hard) but this casual attitude cost them against the Aussies. Make no mistake: England won&#039;t fancy the Aussies in the 2nd Round. Not just cause of the rivalry either - but because the Aussies have lots of players with Prem experience and, traditionally, teams like that (e.g. the Scandis) have very good records against England. The likes of Cahill will know the English well enough not to fear them, and will probably also resent the way that the English players are hyped and paid so much more than them. It makes for powerful motivation.

That said, you can&#039;t compare the USA to Australia. England-USA is just another match. I don&#039;t think the Eagles are desperate to take the English down a peg or two like the Aussies would be (albeit Landon Donovan has expressed his irritation at the way the English media looks down on American football).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Eriksson and the English were ambushed that night. Eriksson introduced the Continental idea that friendlies were not to be taken too seriously (in the past the English had always played them pretty hard) but this casual attitude cost them against the Aussies. Make no mistake: England won&#8217;t fancy the Aussies in the 2nd Round. Not just cause of the rivalry either &#8211; but because the Aussies have lots of players with Prem experience and, traditionally, teams like that (e.g. the Scandis) have very good records against England. The likes of Cahill will know the English well enough not to fear them, and will probably also resent the way that the English players are hyped and paid so much more than them. It makes for powerful motivation.</p>
<p>That said, you can&#8217;t compare the USA to Australia. England-USA is just another match. I don&#8217;t think the Eagles are desperate to take the English down a peg or two like the Aussies would be (albeit Landon Donovan has expressed his irritation at the way the English media looks down on American football).</p>
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		<title>By: GaryGnu</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaryGnu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 11:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t it the overpaid (sexed?) Swede himself, Sven Gorran Erikkson, prior to the last World Cup Draw that said he did not want to draw any of the English Speaking nations in England&#039;s group?

If I recall correctly he cited the feeling surrounding the friendly between Australia and England at Upton Park in 2003. Apparently he didn&#039;t realise the passion with which former colonies pursue an English team in a sporting contest.

If anyone has a quote to the link would be very appreciative.

Lucky Yanks. Hopefully the Socceroos get the chance in the second round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t it the overpaid (sexed?) Swede himself, Sven Gorran Erikkson, prior to the last World Cup Draw that said he did not want to draw any of the English Speaking nations in England&#8217;s group?</p>
<p>If I recall correctly he cited the feeling surrounding the friendly between Australia and England at Upton Park in 2003. Apparently he didn&#8217;t realise the passion with which former colonies pursue an English team in a sporting contest.</p>
<p>If anyone has a quote to the link would be very appreciative.</p>
<p>Lucky Yanks. Hopefully the Socceroos get the chance in the second round.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe FC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe FC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 11:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you say Pippinu Germany have won their last five opening group games and always make it to the knockout stage. Maybe we can rely on the law of averages this time around.
A bit harsh on Theron Adrian calling her disinterested, I thought she did a good job. Beckham’s haircut looked ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you say Pippinu Germany have won their last five opening group games and always make it to the knockout stage. Maybe we can rely on the law of averages this time around.<br />
A bit harsh on Theron Adrian calling her disinterested, I thought she did a good job. Beckham’s haircut looked ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: AGO74</title>
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		<dc:creator>AGO74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 11:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their won&#039;t be any 8-0 debacles a la Germany/Saudi Arabia but I can&#039;t see either of the Korea&#039;s or Japan getting out and we are no certainties.  Would it sound like a bit of a whinger to say that the 4 Asian teams got the 4 toughest groups?  For mine it&#039;s a real pity for Asia that us, Japan or Sth Korea didn&#039;t get the NZ, Uruguay, Chile or Honduras groups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their won&#8217;t be any 8-0 debacles a la Germany/Saudi Arabia but I can&#8217;t see either of the Korea&#8217;s or Japan getting out and we are no certainties.  Would it sound like a bit of a whinger to say that the 4 Asian teams got the 4 toughest groups?  For mine it&#8217;s a real pity for Asia that us, Japan or Sth Korea didn&#8217;t get the NZ, Uruguay, Chile or Honduras groups.</p>
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		<title>By: Midfielder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midfielder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mate I have been so busy the last few months my online time is limited I must confess to not reading everything...

As I type thgis I am taking a small break in some work due tomorrow by 10:00 ... and I started about 20:00 tonight ... but I am listening to one of my play list ... this one has 560 songs right now I am listening to .. Amazing Grace andfollowed by Both Sides Now by Judy Collions quickly looking down the list about 10 Kinks songs , followed by Louie Armstrong , Manfred Man, Dido, Pink, Melaine and so on at song 237..

Hope you are feeling better BTW ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mate I have been so busy the last few months my online time is limited I must confess to not reading everything&#8230;</p>
<p>As I type thgis I am taking a small break in some work due tomorrow by 10:00 &#8230; and I started about 20:00 tonight &#8230; but I am listening to one of my play list &#8230; this one has 560 songs right now I am listening to .. Amazing Grace andfollowed by Both Sides Now by Judy Collions quickly looking down the list about 10 Kinks songs , followed by Louie Armstrong , Manfred Man, Dido, Pink, Melaine and so on at song 237..</p>
<p>Hope you are feeling better BTW &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mid
where have youb been - it has already been said on the Roar stacks of times over the last 36 hours!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mid<br />
where have youb been &#8211; it has already been said on the Roar stacks of times over the last 36 hours!!</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>das
the fact that Spain looks so good means the cliche will be proven yet again!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>das<br />
the fact that Spain looks so good means the cliche will be proven yet again!!</p>
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		<title>By: Midfielder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midfielder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 09:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Fozzie today if we finish second in our group and England first in theirs ... guess who we play next ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Fozzie today if we finish second in our group and England first in theirs &#8230; guess who we play next &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dasilva</title>
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		<dc:creator>dasilva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 09:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However I don&#039;t believe the Asian sides will get hammered this world cup. All 4 Asian sides have pedigree in previous world cups.

There&#039;s no Saudi Arabia for the job to get hammered and I think Australia, South Korea and Japan won&#039;t disgrace themselves (they may not reach the round of 16 but they won&#039;t get hammered either). I also believe that the ultra defensive North Korea who may end up losing all 3 matches won&#039;t get a flogging due to their style of play. Saudi Arabia are more attacking and have more flair and they ended up getting flog due to their naivete.  I don&#039;t see North korea falling in that trap. They will park the bus and settle for 1 or 2-0 loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However I don&#8217;t believe the Asian sides will get hammered this world cup. All 4 Asian sides have pedigree in previous world cups.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no Saudi Arabia for the job to get hammered and I think Australia, South Korea and Japan won&#8217;t disgrace themselves (they may not reach the round of 16 but they won&#8217;t get hammered either). I also believe that the ultra defensive North Korea who may end up losing all 3 matches won&#8217;t get a flogging due to their style of play. Saudi Arabia are more attacking and have more flair and they ended up getting flog due to their naivete.  I don&#8217;t see North korea falling in that trap. They will park the bus and settle for 1 or 2-0 loss.</p>
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		<title>By: dasilva</title>
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		<dc:creator>dasilva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 09:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can also add that Spain will eventually play to their potential and remove their underachiever status and will challenge for the world cup

Reality: After breezing through the group stage they choke in the round of 16 or quarter finals

Although saying that, this Spanish team looks really good, maybe this time they won&#039;t underachieve and challenge for this world cup ......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can also add that Spain will eventually play to their potential and remove their underachiever status and will challenge for the world cup</p>
<p>Reality: After breezing through the group stage they choke in the round of 16 or quarter finals</p>
<p>Although saying that, this Spanish team looks really good, maybe this time they won&#8217;t underachieve and challenge for this world cup &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 07:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>which World Cup 2010, 2014 or 2018. It will probably still work ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>which World Cup 2010, 2014 or 2018. It will probably still work <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 07:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me too Pip!

Most of them play in their local league.... that&#039;s only a crituque when your local league is poor not when it&#039; one of the best in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too Pip!</p>
<p>Most of them play in their local league&#8230;. that&#8217;s only a crituque when your local league is poor not when it&#8217; one of the best in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 07:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to save this post - and pull out again on the eve of the WC finals when the BS really does start flying left, right and centre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to save this post &#8211; and pull out again on the eve of the WC finals when the BS really does start flying left, right and centre.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 07:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039; s hilarious - I can&#039;t fault any of those points - it&#039;s so bloody true!!  :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217; s hilarious &#8211; I can&#8217;t fault any of those points &#8211; it&#8217;s so bloody true!!  <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 07:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amazing how often history repeats when it comes to the World Cup - patterns emerge - like the one that says Germany hasn&#039;t missed out on getting out of the group stage since 1938.

I don&#039;t know about you - but I&#039;d put a large bet on Germany making it out of the group stage again this time around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing how often history repeats when it comes to the World Cup &#8211; patterns emerge &#8211; like the one that says Germany hasn&#8217;t missed out on getting out of the group stage since 1938.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about you &#8211; but I&#8217;d put a large bet on Germany making it out of the group stage again this time around.</p>
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		<title>By: tifosi</title>
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		<dc:creator>tifosi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Classic Stuff Roger. 

Its funny because its true !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classic Stuff Roger. </p>
<p>Its funny because its true !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Rational</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Rational</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things people have been saying pre-cup since 1970:

1. The Germans won&#039;t flukebox their way to the latter stages this time.

2. I really think England can do it.

3. The Netherlands are dark horses.

4. Watch out for the Africans. They&#039;ll win a world cup soon, believe me. 

5. Italy needs to understand that defensive football has had its day.

6. Asian team x/y/z will give a good account of themselves.

7. There are no easy games in international football nowadays

8. European big gun x/y/z that stumbled through qualifying has got no chance. 

9. European minnow x/y/z who rampaged through qualifying will be incredibly dangerous.

10. Football will become massive in the USA if the Eagles perform well. 

Things that actually happen:

1. Germany fluxebox their way to the latter stages.

2. England lose on penalties in the quarter-finals

3. The Netherlands dark horse falls at the first hurdle and has to be put down 

4. The Africans sizzle briefly and disappear, like a cheap firework

5. Italy joins Germany in the latter stages

6. Asian team x/y/z gets hammered

7. See 6

8. See 1,5

9. European minnow x/y/z joins the Africans on the first plane home.

10. Football doesn&#039;t become massive in the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things people have been saying pre-cup since 1970:</p>
<p>1. The Germans won&#8217;t flukebox their way to the latter stages this time.</p>
<p>2. I really think England can do it.</p>
<p>3. The Netherlands are dark horses.</p>
<p>4. Watch out for the Africans. They&#8217;ll win a world cup soon, believe me. </p>
<p>5. Italy needs to understand that defensive football has had its day.</p>
<p>6. Asian team x/y/z will give a good account of themselves.</p>
<p>7. There are no easy games in international football nowadays</p>
<p>8. European big gun x/y/z that stumbled through qualifying has got no chance. </p>
<p>9. European minnow x/y/z who rampaged through qualifying will be incredibly dangerous.</p>
<p>10. Football will become massive in the USA if the Eagles perform well. </p>
<p>Things that actually happen:</p>
<p>1. Germany fluxebox their way to the latter stages.</p>
<p>2. England lose on penalties in the quarter-finals</p>
<p>3. The Netherlands dark horse falls at the first hurdle and has to be put down </p>
<p>4. The Africans sizzle briefly and disappear, like a cheap firework</p>
<p>5. Italy joins Germany in the latter stages</p>
<p>6. Asian team x/y/z gets hammered</p>
<p>7. See 6</p>
<p>8. See 1,5</p>
<p>9. European minnow x/y/z joins the Africans on the first plane home.</p>
<p>10. Football doesn&#8217;t become massive in the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Ando</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting facts, but I always find it intruiging at how people can look at facts from decades past and make assertions about a current teams qualities. 
Whilst I don&#039;t know if this is true or not, surely only players from the 2006 WC are in the current German squad, so why even bother looking at results pre-2006?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting facts, but I always find it intruiging at how people can look at facts from decades past and make assertions about a current teams qualities.<br />
Whilst I don&#8217;t know if this is true or not, surely only players from the 2006 WC are in the current German squad, so why even bother looking at results pre-2006?</p>
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		<title>By: AGO74</title>
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		<dc:creator>AGO74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;there will still be a perception amongst non-football fans that the Socceroos should comfortably join Germany in the final sixteen&quot;.  I don&#039;t agree with you Adrian.  Even the very casual or for the non-football fans in Australia are (generally) savvy enough to know that whilst we may go through to the 2nd round, it certainly won&#039;t be comfortable.  That is one of the benefits of Australia being such a sport mad nation that even in those other mainstream sports we don&#039;t follow, we still have enough knowledge in our history and (limited) past peformances to know just how tough the World Cup is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;there will still be a perception amongst non-football fans that the Socceroos should comfortably join Germany in the final sixteen&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t agree with you Adrian.  Even the very casual or for the non-football fans in Australia are (generally) savvy enough to know that whilst we may go through to the 2nd round, it certainly won&#8217;t be comfortable.  That is one of the benefits of Australia being such a sport mad nation that even in those other mainstream sports we don&#8217;t follow, we still have enough knowledge in our history and (limited) past peformances to know just how tough the World Cup is.</p>
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		<title>By: dasilva</title>
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		<dc:creator>dasilva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing about Germany is that,  it doesn&#039;t matter if the German side is average or not.

They will always be there about challenging the trophy

Germany struggled to qualify to the 2002 world cup. Everyone said it was an average side. Yet they reach the finals

The Germany in 2006 was average. They reach the semi-finals

The Germany for the euros 2008 was considered a mediocre german teams. They reach the finals

Germany doesn&#039;t look like an exceptional team compared to other seeds but Germany are still germany and I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if they are playing in next years world cup final.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing about Germany is that,  it doesn&#8217;t matter if the German side is average or not.</p>
<p>They will always be there about challenging the trophy</p>
<p>Germany struggled to qualify to the 2002 world cup. Everyone said it was an average side. Yet they reach the finals</p>
<p>The Germany in 2006 was average. They reach the semi-finals</p>
<p>The Germany for the euros 2008 was considered a mediocre german teams. They reach the finals</p>
<p>Germany doesn&#8217;t look like an exceptional team compared to other seeds but Germany are still germany and I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if they are playing in next years world cup final.</p>
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		<title>By: Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tomo doesn&#039;t do World Cups for SBS. He&#039;s the cycling man</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tomo doesn&#8217;t do World Cups for SBS. He&#8217;s the cycling man</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty much the whole of the German squad plays in the Bundesliga.

I&#039;d be happy if the whole Australian squad played in the Bundesliga!!

This will be Germany&#039;s 17th World Cup - have a guess when they last failed to get past the first round??

Folks - if there is one thing I can tell you about the Germans - they always get past the first round, and pretty much past the second round as well.

In fact, more often than not, they finish top four.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty much the whole of the German squad plays in the Bundesliga.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be happy if the whole Australian squad played in the Bundesliga!!</p>
<p>This will be Germany&#8217;s 17th World Cup &#8211; have a guess when they last failed to get past the first round??</p>
<p>Folks &#8211; if there is one thing I can tell you about the Germans &#8211; they always get past the first round, and pretty much past the second round as well.</p>
<p>In fact, more often than not, they finish top four.</p>
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