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		<title>By: rugbyfuture</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-2/#comment-275878</link>
		<dc:creator>rugbyfuture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when, and exact citings please.</description>
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		<title>By: kick,clap,kick</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-2/#comment-275869</link>
		<dc:creator>kick,clap,kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i see one problem.. Even top quality RU rates poorly on FTA...The Bledisloes averaged less than a Fri night NRL game..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i see one problem.. Even top quality RU rates poorly on FTA&#8230;The Bledisloes averaged less than a Fri night NRL game..</p>
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		<title>By: jacko</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-2/#comment-275866</link>
		<dc:creator>jacko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 02:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only just seen this now after linking from another article.  

Never a truer word as been written. Show the kids the game, have people creating a buzz about it and they&#039;ll sign up. To torture and change a well know movie quote &#039; &quot;If you show it, they will come&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only just seen this now after linking from another article.  </p>
<p>Never a truer word as been written. Show the kids the game, have people creating a buzz about it and they&#8217;ll sign up. To torture and change a well know movie quote &#8216; &#8220;If you show it, they will come&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Working Class Rugger</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-263739</link>
		<dc:creator>Working Class Rugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joh4Canberra

I agree. Not only should it cover Australian Rugby but Rugby elsewhere including the second tier comps like the Championship (ENG), Russian Championship, British and Irish Cup, Pro D2, even some of the emerging nations like the Rugby Bundesliga (GER) and SIR (SPAIN).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joh4Canberra</p>
<p>I agree. Not only should it cover Australian Rugby but Rugby elsewhere including the second tier comps like the Championship (ENG), Russian Championship, British and Irish Cup, Pro D2, even some of the emerging nations like the Rugby Bundesliga (GER) and SIR (SPAIN).</p>
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		<title>By: damo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-2/#comment-263693</link>
		<dc:creator>damo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rugby needs some hype. Hype needs FTA exposure.
It doesn&#039;t matter how. It needs to find its way onto FTA  TV.  

Highlight packages are good. All the tries and some big phases are always good. I agree we need some career presenters and not just technical &quot;experts&quot; to present the show. There are a few rugby tragics who work professionally in media. But the essential thing is we need the rucks, lineouts, bombs, tackles and tries on the bloody box EVERY WEEKEND.
What games ? Dunno. What comp? Dunno. What channel? Dunno. 

We need the rucks, lineouts, bombs, tackles and tries on the bloody box EVERY WEEKEND.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rugby needs some hype. Hype needs FTA exposure.<br />
It doesn&#8217;t matter how. It needs to find its way onto FTA  TV.  </p>
<p>Highlight packages are good. All the tries and some big phases are always good. I agree we need some career presenters and not just technical &#8220;experts&#8221; to present the show. There are a few rugby tragics who work professionally in media. But the essential thing is we need the rucks, lineouts, bombs, tackles and tries on the bloody box EVERY WEEKEND.<br />
What games ? Dunno. What comp? Dunno. What channel? Dunno. </p>
<p>We need the rucks, lineouts, bombs, tackles and tries on the bloody box EVERY WEEKEND.</p>
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		<title>By: JF</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-2/#comment-263647</link>
		<dc:creator>JF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ruggamatrix TV would be great, there would be enough content to go all year - reporting on the NH comps, I love to see how the Australians are going in the Top14.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruggamatrix TV would be great, there would be enough content to go all year &#8211; reporting on the NH comps, I love to see how the Australians are going in the Top14.</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-263628</link>
		<dc:creator>Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quade...thinking? What the hell were you thinking when you posed that quaestion, WCR?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quade&#8230;thinking? What the hell were you thinking when you posed that quaestion, WCR?</p>
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		<title>By: Timmypig</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-2/#comment-263489</link>
		<dc:creator>Timmypig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if a FTA model could be based upon Don Lane&#039;s NFL highlights show from the early-mid 1990s. A show like that could run almost year-round, showing Heineken Cup; S14/15; Currie Cup; NPC; 6N; 3N; mid year tours; end of year tours ....

Problems:
- Licensing the content. The FTA broadcaster would have to deal with several rights holders all of whom have the own patch to defend, and some of whom with squabbles with the FTA networks.
- Credible, popular, knowledgable, calm, unbiased host. Kafer comes to mind. Few others 8-(
- Timeslot. Once a week? Twice a week? What gets pushed aside on the FTA station? How long until it gets dropped for something the cretins will watch that is cheaper, eg 2nd tier (and very cheap) cruddy US sitcoms.

Maybe this is in the too hard basket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if a FTA model could be based upon Don Lane&#8217;s NFL highlights show from the early-mid 1990s. A show like that could run almost year-round, showing Heineken Cup; S14/15; Currie Cup; NPC; 6N; 3N; mid year tours; end of year tours &#8230;.</p>
<p>Problems:<br />
- Licensing the content. The FTA broadcaster would have to deal with several rights holders all of whom have the own patch to defend, and some of whom with squabbles with the FTA networks.<br />
- Credible, popular, knowledgable, calm, unbiased host. Kafer comes to mind. Few others 8-(<br />
- Timeslot. Once a week? Twice a week? What gets pushed aside on the FTA station? How long until it gets dropped for something the cretins will watch that is cheaper, eg 2nd tier (and very cheap) cruddy US sitcoms.</p>
<p>Maybe this is in the too hard basket.</p>
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		<title>By: Timmypig</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-263483</link>
		<dc:creator>Timmypig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appealing to our senses of irony, Mitzter? I find listening to Rabs excruciating ....

Otherwise I agree. But where&#039;s the talent? I think The Roar has covered this ground before and come up short. Good analysis by &#039;Tugboat&#039; Kafer, but otherwise - shocking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appealing to our senses of irony, Mitzter? I find listening to Rabs excruciating &#8230;.</p>
<p>Otherwise I agree. But where&#8217;s the talent? I think The Roar has covered this ground before and come up short. Good analysis by &#8216;Tugboat&#8217; Kafer, but otherwise &#8211; shocking.</p>
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		<title>By: Joh4Canberra</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-263469</link>
		<dc:creator>Joh4Canberra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in the early days of the Super 12 channel 7 used to have a highlights show of the Super 12. Then they dropped it because it didn&#039;t rate that well. I was disappointed when they dropped it. I don&#039;t have pay tv and it&#039;s unlikely I ever will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the early days of the Super 12 channel 7 used to have a highlights show of the Super 12. Then they dropped it because it didn&#8217;t rate that well. I was disappointed when they dropped it. I don&#8217;t have pay tv and it&#8217;s unlikely I ever will.</p>
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		<title>By: Joh4Canberra</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-263466</link>
		<dc:creator>Joh4Canberra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;World in Union&quot; would be fine if its coverage wasn&#039;t just Super 15/ SANZAR but actually included the game in other parts of the world. Otherwise the title would be a bit misleading. Sure, there&#039;s nothing wrong with concentrating on the game in your own back yard, but you should probably have a bit of coverage of what&#039;s going on elsewhere on planet rugby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;World in Union&#8221; would be fine if its coverage wasn&#8217;t just Super 15/ SANZAR but actually included the game in other parts of the world. Otherwise the title would be a bit misleading. Sure, there&#8217;s nothing wrong with concentrating on the game in your own back yard, but you should probably have a bit of coverage of what&#8217;s going on elsewhere on planet rugby.</p>
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		<title>By: Working Class Rugger</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-2/#comment-263237</link>
		<dc:creator>Working Class Rugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bay

Have you listened to the first Ruggamatrix USA episode. Djuro Sen and Bruce McLane (New York Athletic Club). I found that very informative.</description>
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<p>Have you listened to the first Ruggamatrix USA episode. Djuro Sen and Bruce McLane (New York Athletic Club). I found that very informative.</p>
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		<title>By: Bay35Pablo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-2/#comment-263151</link>
		<dc:creator>Bay35Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, any renegotiation of the TV deal in Australia for S15 MUST have:

1. At least one game with an Australian team  on FTA live. it might be the 5th pick game, but we need to have the game on FTA. Is it any wonder that kids are going to AFL and NRL when that is what they can see all the time on TV?

2. A weekly highlights show on FTA, with them having full access to all coverage and players.

Pay TV ensures a level of revenue that we need, but the FTA is essential to keeping the fans and sport healthy at the grass roots.

it doesn&#039;t matter if you are earning a billion dollars a year with a sport if no one can watch you. You&#039;ll die because you have no expsoure. The Wallabies agmes aren&#039;t enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, any renegotiation of the TV deal in Australia for S15 MUST have:</p>
<p>1. At least one game with an Australian team  on FTA live. it might be the 5th pick game, but we need to have the game on FTA. Is it any wonder that kids are going to AFL and NRL when that is what they can see all the time on TV?</p>
<p>2. A weekly highlights show on FTA, with them having full access to all coverage and players.</p>
<p>Pay TV ensures a level of revenue that we need, but the FTA is essential to keeping the fans and sport healthy at the grass roots.</p>
<p>it doesn&#8217;t matter if you are earning a billion dollars a year with a sport if no one can watch you. You&#8217;ll die because you have no expsoure. The Wallabies agmes aren&#8217;t enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Bay35Pablo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-2/#comment-263143</link>
		<dc:creator>Bay35Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam T, they could do a lot worse than getting Djuro Sen and Mark Cashman from Ruggamatrix to do that type of show. I love listening to Ruggamatrix, they make it fun but still respectful and informative, and it beats the hell out of what Fox front up with let alone Seven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam T, they could do a lot worse than getting Djuro Sen and Mark Cashman from Ruggamatrix to do that type of show. I love listening to Ruggamatrix, they make it fun but still respectful and informative, and it beats the hell out of what Fox front up with let alone Seven.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-2/#comment-263122</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure how easy it will be to get FTA coverage, but having something - even just a highlights package is pretty important. The new Super 15 will be something that is more attractive to FTA broadcasters because there will be so many more Australia vs Australia games. As for the adult and kids tv shows, they have one in NZ for kids called smallblacks - http://www.smallblacks.com/ - which seems to do quite well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure how easy it will be to get FTA coverage, but having something &#8211; even just a highlights package is pretty important. The new Super 15 will be something that is more attractive to FTA broadcasters because there will be so many more Australia vs Australia games. As for the adult and kids tv shows, they have one in NZ for kids called smallblacks &#8211; <a href="http://www.smallblacks.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.smallblacks.com/</a> &#8211; which seems to do quite well.</p>
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		<title>By: The Link</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-262400</link>
		<dc:creator>The Link</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett - 100k might be OK on subscription TV where advertising is gravy on top of the real revenue earner, subscriptions. I doubt it stacks up on a Friday / Sat night for FTA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett &#8211; 100k might be OK on subscription TV where advertising is gravy on top of the real revenue earner, subscriptions. I doubt it stacks up on a Friday / Sat night for FTA.</p>
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		<title>By: PastHisBest</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-2/#comment-262365</link>
		<dc:creator>PastHisBest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 05:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard Loges wanted too much coin to sign on again...</description>
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		<title>By: Sam Taulelei</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-2/#comment-262338</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Taulelei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 05:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinking about channel 10&#039;s &quot;Before the Game&quot; a large part of the show&#039;s wider appeal is the absence of former players and coaches on the regular panel.  By involving tv performers who have a natural love of the game removes the blokey boofhead mentality that&#039;s normally associated with panel sports shows and focus a bit more on entertainment.  I&#039;d hate to see more Greg Clark, Phil Kearns and Greg Martin types on tv.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking about channel 10&#8242;s &#8220;Before the Game&#8221; a large part of the show&#8217;s wider appeal is the absence of former players and coaches on the regular panel.  By involving tv performers who have a natural love of the game removes the blokey boofhead mentality that&#8217;s normally associated with panel sports shows and focus a bit more on entertainment.  I&#8217;d hate to see more Greg Clark, Phil Kearns and Greg Martin types on tv.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Taulelei</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-2/#comment-262313</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Taulelei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 05:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rugby is not a protected sport by the Federal Fovernment i.e it&#039;s not included on the anti-siphoning list so FTA channels don&#039;t have exclusive rights with regards to bidding for broadcasting.  

At the moment there is no bidding war with the ARU between Foxtel and FTA networks to broadcast rugby.  It&#039;s to be hoped that with NewsCorp signing off on the new deal with SANZAR an opportunity will exist for FTA to get their foot in the door for the Super 15 compettion in 2011.  So even with the availability of additional digital frequencies and the removal of government restrictions for multichanneling, Foxtel have exclusive rights to Super rugby, Tri Nations and domestic Wallaby tests for next year.  They can sell those rights on to a FTA network but if you live outside of NSW and QLD then we&#039;re treated like rugby lepers.

The ideal scenario for the ARU would be what happened with the bidding war for rights to broadcast the AFL.  That should be the goal however rugby in this country is a long way from seeing that eventuating.

Even with One HD, 7Two and an additional channel for Nine all FTA networks are built on the same business model.  Attract as many viewers as possible so you can sell advertising space at a premium price.  It&#039;s great for mass exposure for a program or sport, but equally makes it difficult if you&#039;re regarded as a niche sport.

Rugby is both a niche and premium sport in Australia.  Domestically it&#039;s a niche product, internationally it&#039;s a premium product for particular teams.  This makes it a challenge for networks to gauge how well it rates and then project revenue.  A test match between Australia and NZ will always rate well as will Australia v England.  They are traditional rivalries.  Australia versus anyone else and it&#039;s really only appealing to the core supporters rather than a mass audience, unless the Wallabies are playing an entertaining brand of game and are successful.  Everyone loves a winner.

In 1989 there was a late nights sports program that began showing a highlights package of ARL games from the previous weekend in NZ, they also began showing state of origin games live.  It became so popular that league got it&#039;s own Monday night show and then the memorable grand final between Canberra and Balmain was broadcast live and NZ was hooked.

That may be the ideal vehicle for the ARU and FTA to promote rugby, highlight the best parts in a Monday night package with no expert analysis so there&#039;s more action and less talk.  Build an awareness specifically tailored for a wider audience instead of preaching to the converted.  The show can even incorporate social networking technology to expand it&#039;s horizons.  Leave the hardcore audience to watch The Rugby Club on Fox and aim for a more relaxed style like the AFL&#039;s Before the Game on channel 10.

Hell maybe Zac and the guys can talk to a network about &quot;Roar TV&#039; as a concept.  We had Andrew Logan doing some web broadcasts via this site a while back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rugby is not a protected sport by the Federal Fovernment i.e it&#8217;s not included on the anti-siphoning list so FTA channels don&#8217;t have exclusive rights with regards to bidding for broadcasting.  </p>
<p>At the moment there is no bidding war with the ARU between Foxtel and FTA networks to broadcast rugby.  It&#8217;s to be hoped that with NewsCorp signing off on the new deal with SANZAR an opportunity will exist for FTA to get their foot in the door for the Super 15 compettion in 2011.  So even with the availability of additional digital frequencies and the removal of government restrictions for multichanneling, Foxtel have exclusive rights to Super rugby, Tri Nations and domestic Wallaby tests for next year.  They can sell those rights on to a FTA network but if you live outside of NSW and QLD then we&#8217;re treated like rugby lepers.</p>
<p>The ideal scenario for the ARU would be what happened with the bidding war for rights to broadcast the AFL.  That should be the goal however rugby in this country is a long way from seeing that eventuating.</p>
<p>Even with One HD, 7Two and an additional channel for Nine all FTA networks are built on the same business model.  Attract as many viewers as possible so you can sell advertising space at a premium price.  It&#8217;s great for mass exposure for a program or sport, but equally makes it difficult if you&#8217;re regarded as a niche sport.</p>
<p>Rugby is both a niche and premium sport in Australia.  Domestically it&#8217;s a niche product, internationally it&#8217;s a premium product for particular teams.  This makes it a challenge for networks to gauge how well it rates and then project revenue.  A test match between Australia and NZ will always rate well as will Australia v England.  They are traditional rivalries.  Australia versus anyone else and it&#8217;s really only appealing to the core supporters rather than a mass audience, unless the Wallabies are playing an entertaining brand of game and are successful.  Everyone loves a winner.</p>
<p>In 1989 there was a late nights sports program that began showing a highlights package of ARL games from the previous weekend in NZ, they also began showing state of origin games live.  It became so popular that league got it&#8217;s own Monday night show and then the memorable grand final between Canberra and Balmain was broadcast live and NZ was hooked.</p>
<p>That may be the ideal vehicle for the ARU and FTA to promote rugby, highlight the best parts in a Monday night package with no expert analysis so there&#8217;s more action and less talk.  Build an awareness specifically tailored for a wider audience instead of preaching to the converted.  The show can even incorporate social networking technology to expand it&#8217;s horizons.  Leave the hardcore audience to watch The Rugby Club on Fox and aim for a more relaxed style like the AFL&#8217;s Before the Game on channel 10.</p>
<p>Hell maybe Zac and the guys can talk to a network about &#8220;Roar TV&#8217; as a concept.  We had Andrew Logan doing some web broadcasts via this site a while back.</p>
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		<title>By: Midfielder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midfielder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Redb

Your right in terms of the next media deal but keep an eye out for my thread should be some time over the next week..</description>
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<p>Your right in terms of the next media deal but keep an eye out for my thread should be some time over the next week..</p>
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		<title>By: Sam el Perro</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-262235</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam el Perro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure that his defence lawyer will tell us in the fullness of the time.</description>
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		<title>By: Sam el Perro</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-262229</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam el Perro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the sentiment, but think in the short to medium to that the targets are unrealistic. I&#039;m not going to pretend that I have ratings data at my fingertips (I don&#039;t) but that seems to be similar to what is attained by the other two domestic football competitions on FTA in Australia. On the other hand, of course, it is something that can be achieved over time, but it is an incremental process. FTA channels will be reticent to screen two games (presumably in prime time) if the ratings aren&#039;t there. 

My idea, and I welcome anyone&#039;s response, would be, as I alluded to before, to find a slot for rugby to own and work with that. The logical one, I think, is Saturday 7.30pm or thereabouts. Wallabies tests are played then, albeit sporadically, over the winter. If Super 1x matches (replaced by Tests when necessary) are played from February onwards every Saturday night on FTA the rugby habit will form. Then the ARU can start looking at negotiating for a second match on FTA.

Trying to get two matches on FTA every week for the next rights deal, however, would also risk reducing the income that is going to be derived from Pay TV in Australia as it would reduce the number of matches they can show. The risk is that FTA may not be able to (in the short term) make up this shortfall if there isn&#039;t already the ratings base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the sentiment, but think in the short to medium to that the targets are unrealistic. I&#8217;m not going to pretend that I have ratings data at my fingertips (I don&#8217;t) but that seems to be similar to what is attained by the other two domestic football competitions on FTA in Australia. On the other hand, of course, it is something that can be achieved over time, but it is an incremental process. FTA channels will be reticent to screen two games (presumably in prime time) if the ratings aren&#8217;t there. </p>
<p>My idea, and I welcome anyone&#8217;s response, would be, as I alluded to before, to find a slot for rugby to own and work with that. The logical one, I think, is Saturday 7.30pm or thereabouts. Wallabies tests are played then, albeit sporadically, over the winter. If Super 1x matches (replaced by Tests when necessary) are played from February onwards every Saturday night on FTA the rugby habit will form. Then the ARU can start looking at negotiating for a second match on FTA.</p>
<p>Trying to get two matches on FTA every week for the next rights deal, however, would also risk reducing the income that is going to be derived from Pay TV in Australia as it would reduce the number of matches they can show. The risk is that FTA may not be able to (in the short term) make up this shortfall if there isn&#8217;t already the ratings base.</p>
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		<title>By: Working Class Rugger</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-2/#comment-262214</link>
		<dc:creator>Working Class Rugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Phantom

They could use that too. Total Tugby is a great program.</description>
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<p>They could use that too. Total Tugby is a great program.</p>
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		<title>By: Working Class Rugger</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-262209</link>
		<dc:creator>Working Class Rugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett

Hey, I may just do that. Hell, I have a Ruggerrat. My 9 year old brother. Could work:D</description>
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<p>Hey, I may just do that. Hell, I have a Ruggerrat. My 9 year old brother. Could work:D</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-2/#comment-262185</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve given up waiting for Super rugby to be shown on free to air TV. Signed up for Foxtel last week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve given up waiting for Super rugby to be shown on free to air TV. Signed up for Foxtel last week.</p>
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		<title>By: rugbyfuture</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-262155</link>
		<dc:creator>rugbyfuture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we&#039;d need on free to air between 400,000-600,000 viewers per game, with two games per week, the point of this article was to point out a path to get games with interest on free to air</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we&#8217;d need on free to air between 400,000-600,000 viewers per game, with two games per week, the point of this article was to point out a path to get games with interest on free to air</p>
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		<title>By: Brett McKay</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-262043</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett McKay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Link, greater penetration of the game, and by association, their sponsors, for starters.  I think S14 games rate similarly on Fox to A-League games, somewhere in the order of 100K people (on average, and without looking any deeper to confirm), so you&#039;d have to think that on FTA S15 games would do at least that well.  Plus with more local games and local derbies from 2011 - there will almost always be at least two games a week in Australia - it will be easier to keep viewers throughout the extended season.

I&#039;d imagine the business case would actually be reasonably strong....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Link, greater penetration of the game, and by association, their sponsors, for starters.  I think S14 games rate similarly on Fox to A-League games, somewhere in the order of 100K people (on average, and without looking any deeper to confirm), so you&#8217;d have to think that on FTA S15 games would do at least that well.  Plus with more local games and local derbies from 2011 &#8211; there will almost always be at least two games a week in Australia &#8211; it will be easier to keep viewers throughout the extended season.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d imagine the business case would actually be reasonably strong&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: The Phantom</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-262005</link>
		<dc:creator>The Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about starting with the IRB - Total Rugby show that gets shown on fox at various time usually on a Thursday. No need for the higher production costs just an off the shelf product that already exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about starting with the IRB &#8211; Total Rugby show that gets shown on fox at various time usually on a Thursday. No need for the higher production costs just an off the shelf product that already exists.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett McKay</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-262002</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett McKay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ruggerrats, I like it WCR - maybe you could pitch yourself as the host!!  

There was definitely reports of Ten being in talks around late Sep, early Oct re. showing some or all of the S15.  Initially I recall it being suggested they were looking at the local games, but then I&#039;m sure I recall another report that said they were seriously considering giving Fox a competition for the whole shebang.  I&#039;d even take the local games on 30 or 60 minute delay if it meant being able to see them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruggerrats, I like it WCR &#8211; maybe you could pitch yourself as the host!!  </p>
<p>There was definitely reports of Ten being in talks around late Sep, early Oct re. showing some or all of the S15.  Initially I recall it being suggested they were looking at the local games, but then I&#8217;m sure I recall another report that said they were seriously considering giving Fox a competition for the whole shebang.  I&#8217;d even take the local games on 30 or 60 minute delay if it meant being able to see them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Phantom</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/07/rugbys-pathway-to-free-to-air-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-261997</link>
		<dc:creator>The Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not all people get channel 10 and even less get ONEHD. If they give a better coverage that is great, make sure the exposure is as wide as it can be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all people get channel 10 and even less get ONEHD. If they give a better coverage that is great, make sure the exposure is as wide as it can be.</p>
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