Comments on: Bathurst change is to the detriment of the great race http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/13/bathurst-change-is-to-the-detriment-of-the-great-race/ Your Sports Opinion Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:59:04 +0000 hourly 1 By: James http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/13/bathurst-change-is-to-the-detriment-of-the-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-272555 James Thu, 24 Dec 2009 04:54:04 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=26234#comment-272555 Check this out: that same poll I mentioned before - YES - Teams forced to split 50% 842_votes NO - Teams to decide on pairings. 50% 842_votes Total votes: 1684. That's a very divided public opinion! Check this out: that same poll I mentioned before -

YES – Teams forced to split
50% 842_votes
NO – Teams to decide on pairings.
50% 842_votes
Total votes: 1684.

That’s a very divided public opinion!

]]> By: James http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/13/bathurst-change-is-to-the-detriment-of-the-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-267918 James Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:55:11 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=26234#comment-267918 Seems opinion is really split. Check out this poll - http://www.speedcafe.com.au/2009/12/11/poll-should-lead-drivers-split-for-enduros-2/ 48% agree with the rule, 52% don't. Seems opinion is really split. Check out this poll – http://www.speedcafe.com.au/2009/12/11/poll-should-lead-drivers-split-for-enduros-2/

48% agree with the rule, 52% don’t.

]]> By: Marshall http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/13/bathurst-change-is-to-the-detriment-of-the-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-267518 Marshall Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:15:16 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=26234#comment-267518 The part timers out of a job would love it. They could make a years salary in two races as the big teams will pay a mint for the best available. Skaife will be hot property. I also hear David Brabham is available for the enduros, The part timers out of a job would love it. They could make a years salary in two races as the big teams will pay a mint for the best available. Skaife will be hot property. I also hear David Brabham is available for the enduros,

]]> By: Marshall http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/13/bathurst-change-is-to-the-detriment-of-the-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-267131 Marshall Mon, 14 Dec 2009 05:53:23 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=26234#comment-267131 Fair point. As long as the championship is at stake there will be an issue with co-drivers impacting on it Fair point. As long as the championship is at stake there will be an issue with co-drivers impacting on it

]]> By: Chop http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/13/bathurst-change-is-to-the-detriment-of-the-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-266976 Chop Mon, 14 Dec 2009 01:28:38 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=26234#comment-266976 Marshall if you put them in early, you might not have a car at the end which is my issue....You put the PT drivers in early and some of the drawcards will inevitably not even get a chance in the car and it could cost someone the championship. Take Bathurst out of the championship and I'd be a little happier with the PT drivers, but i think it cheapens the event when you can't have the team you want driving. Marshall if you put them in early, you might not have a car at the end which is my issue….You put the PT drivers in early and some of the drawcards will inevitably not even get a chance in the car and it could cost someone the championship.

Take Bathurst out of the championship and I’d be a little happier with the PT drivers, but i think it cheapens the event when you can’t have the team you want driving.

]]> By: Skip http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/13/bathurst-change-is-to-the-detriment-of-the-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-266962 Skip Mon, 14 Dec 2009 01:16:10 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=26234#comment-266962 Brocks co drivers were a big contributer to his success. Especially Jim Richards. Brock was good at bringing cars home he was not in the same league as many of his co drivers. Brocks co drivers were a big contributer to his success. Especially Jim Richards. Brock was good at bringing cars home he was not in the same league as many of his co drivers.

]]> By: Marshall http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/13/bathurst-change-is-to-the-detriment-of-the-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-266955 Marshall Mon, 14 Dec 2009 01:10:52 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=26234#comment-266955 Internationals have struggled at Bathurst in recent years though cause our V8s are totally different to their little 2L Euro tourers. Internationals have struggled at Bathurst in recent years though cause our V8s are totally different to their little 2L Euro tourers.

]]> By: Doug http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/13/bathurst-change-is-to-the-detriment-of-the-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-266953 Doug Mon, 14 Dec 2009 01:05:08 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=26234#comment-266953 The big teams will probably just bring in big name drivers from UK and Europian touring car championships. Which will increase the sports international exposure. The big teams will probably just bring in big name drivers from UK and Europian touring car championships. Which will increase the sports international exposure.

]]> By: Chop http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/13/bathurst-change-is-to-the-detriment-of-the-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-266950 Chop Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:56:32 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=26234#comment-266950 I think it's a ridiculous change in the rules, it's not based on getting the best racing possible because there will be more part-timers out there who are sometimes 2-3 seconds a lap slower. What ever happened to letting teams have a strategy? Different teams have different tactics and I think that's part of the interest in Bathurst over everything else. Next they'll be scheduling pitstops for every team as well..... I think it’s a ridiculous change in the rules, it’s not based on getting the best racing possible because there will be more part-timers out there who are sometimes 2-3 seconds a lap slower.

What ever happened to letting teams have a strategy? Different teams have different tactics and I think that’s part of the interest in Bathurst over everything else.

Next they’ll be scheduling pitstops for every team as well…..

]]> By: Terry Kidd http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/13/bathurst-change-is-to-the-detriment-of-the-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-266893 Terry Kidd Sun, 13 Dec 2009 23:39:46 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=26234#comment-266893 I agree with Marshall in that when I think of Bathurst I think of Moffat, Brock, Goss et al who all won on there pat malone .... a true test of endurance in cars that were pigs to drive. I also agree with James .... the justification for the change I can see, why the race remains part of the championship I can't see. Bathurst has enough legend and kudos to be stand alone and doesn't need to be part of the championship .... how many drivers would not like to be the sole 'king of the mountain' for a year? Bring in the change but take the race out of the championship. I agree with Marshall in that when I think of Bathurst I think of Moffat, Brock, Goss et al who all won on there pat malone …. a true test of endurance in cars that were pigs to drive.

I also agree with James …. the justification for the change I can see, why the race remains part of the championship I can’t see. Bathurst has enough legend and kudos to be stand alone and doesn’t need to be part of the championship …. how many drivers would not like to be the sole ‘king of the mountain’ for a year?

Bring in the change but take the race out of the championship.

]]> By: Marshall http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/13/bathurst-change-is-to-the-detriment-of-the-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-266720 Marshall Sun, 13 Dec 2009 10:35:10 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=26234#comment-266720 Can't see the part timers being put in the car in the final stint. It'll be for the A drivers to bring it home, especially with the chances of safety cars. They'll get their minimum laps out of the way in an early stint Can’t see the part timers being put in the car in the final stint. It’ll be for the A drivers to bring it home, especially with the chances of safety cars. They’ll get their minimum laps out of the way in an early stint

]]> By: Crazy Dave http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/13/bathurst-change-is-to-the-detriment-of-the-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-266677 Crazy Dave Sun, 13 Dec 2009 06:55:10 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=26234#comment-266677 I don't see any negatives in this decision... Sure, there is a possibility that all the part-timers will be on track at once, and that the quality of the racing may decrease as a result, but these drivers will also only be allowed to do a certain no. of laps. Which means that most of the driving in each car, will be done by the professional driver. And teams will learn to use there part-time drivers tactically... You may even see some part-time drivers starting the race, allowing the professional to be in the car when the other teams switch to their part-timers. You may even see some part-timers finishing the race, taking advantage of some of the full-time drivers being a little bit tired. As I said, I see no negatives... only positives... I can't wait for some of these drivers to start building their legends... I don’t see any negatives in this decision… Sure, there is a possibility that all the part-timers will be on track at once, and that the quality of the racing may decrease as a result, but these drivers will also only be allowed to do a certain no. of laps. Which means that most of the driving in each car, will be done by the professional driver.

And teams will learn to use there part-time drivers tactically… You may even see some part-time drivers starting the race, allowing the professional to be in the car when the other teams switch to their part-timers. You may even see some part-timers finishing the race, taking advantage of some of the full-time drivers being a little bit tired.

As I said, I see no negatives… only positives… I can’t wait for some of these drivers to start building their legends…

]]> By: Marshall http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/13/bathurst-change-is-to-the-detriment-of-the-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-266609 Marshall Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:56:59 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=26234#comment-266609 Whincup had a championship to worry about at Bathurst and he was pretty aggresive in the final laps. Bathurst will always make the drivers go for it, but if it was non championship it would be even crazier you'd imagine Whincup had a championship to worry about at Bathurst and he was pretty aggresive in the final laps. Bathurst will always make the drivers go for it, but if it was non championship it would be even crazier you’d imagine

]]> By: James http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/13/bathurst-change-is-to-the-detriment-of-the-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-266603 James Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:46:40 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=26234#comment-266603 I agree, but this change makes that a little more likely as they are in control of their own destiny without having to share two championship concerns in the one car. But I think Bathurst should be my itself at the end of the year - non-championship. I agree, but this change makes that a little more likely as they are in control of their own destiny without having to share two championship concerns in the one car. But I think Bathurst should be my itself at the end of the year – non-championship.

]]> By: Hansie http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/13/bathurst-change-is-to-the-detriment-of-the-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-266602 Hansie Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:40:53 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=26234#comment-266602 I don't think Bathurst should be part of the Championship. It's ridiculous to see drivers settling for a points finish at Bathurst, instead of going hard for victory, just to protect their position in the Championship. I don’t think Bathurst should be part of the Championship. It’s ridiculous to see drivers settling for a points finish at Bathurst, instead of going hard for victory, just to protect their position in the Championship.

]]> By: James http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/13/bathurst-change-is-to-the-detriment-of-the-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-266590 James Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:07:38 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=26234#comment-266590 Agreed. I think it is a good move for the marketability of the series - and will be probably produce better Bathursts 'cause there will be more contenders and all the leading drivers going for it in that final stint, but the whole race will lose that intensity and the part-time co-drivers will all be on track at the same time being told to just kept it in a straightline. I'll miss seeing the best of the best paired together. Whincup and Lowndes together were magic. Shame for the Kelly bros too. Agreed. I think it is a good move for the marketability of the series – and will be probably produce better Bathursts ’cause there will be more contenders and all the leading drivers going for it in that final stint, but the whole race will lose that intensity and the part-time co-drivers will all be on track at the same time being told to just kept it in a straightline. I’ll miss seeing the best of the best paired together. Whincup and Lowndes together were magic. Shame for the Kelly bros too.

]]> By: Marshall http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/13/bathurst-change-is-to-the-detriment-of-the-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-266569 Marshall Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:25:52 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=26234#comment-266569 I'm really split on this one and I think there are good cases to be made for each side. However when I think if Bathurst I think of Brock and by having this rule it might mean the lead drivers get a bigger claim if the spotlight. Ie Tander wins Bathurst rather than Tander and Davison win Bathurst, making it easier for this new generation to build their legend. I’m really split on this one and I think there are good cases to be made for each side. However when I think if Bathurst I think of Brock and by having this rule it might mean the lead drivers get a bigger claim if the spotlight. Ie Tander wins Bathurst rather than Tander and Davison win Bathurst, making it easier for this new generation to build their legend.

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