Comments on: The Code War will get more precise in 2010

By: jus de couchon

jus de couchon — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:08:56 +0000

I spose R.U and R.L compete with eachother for viewers , sponsors ,T.V money and players . Would be nice to think though that this off field posturing which forces supporters of either code to see eachother as mutualy exclusive, change.

By: captain nemo

captain nemo — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:52:23 +0000

stash, as you would know living mostly in Honky, EPL, 6 nations, Tri-nations and super 14 are the only shows in town that get any attention at all. Australian horse racing gets far more attention in Honky than NRL/AFL. Word was that the NRL wanted to play a Warriors vs Aussie NRL team up here but they couldn’t get their act together. Would be interested to see if a game of NRL would attract much attention like the Bledisloe did. Honky 7′s is a big event here so the Bledisloe had something to work off.

By: stash

stash — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:29:17 +0000

ahem…my mistake…football

(though I’m sure the rules for soccer and football are the same??!!)

By: stash

stash — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:27:47 +0000

How about Australian television feeds going offshore?

I see Rugby union eclipsing AFL and League when it comes to international appeal. I’m pretty sure sponsors are getting more bang for the buck than they realise.

I spend most of the time in Hong Kong – and if its…say a Bledsloie match… then there’s some pretty decent crowds in the pubs. But the real fans are recording off satellite or direct feeds like rugbyzone. Rugby lunch parties and beers in the middle of the afternoon…

An international rugby game gets more viewers than League of AFL… the only games really popular are finals and Sate of Origin. Neither games get any newspaper coverage in Asia…whereas union gets newspaper slots and even occasional CNN commentary.

Isn’t the world cup the second most watched sporting event after the Soccer world cup?

By: Sportfreak.

Sportfreak. — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:56:58 +0000

Rod – I would argue like the League ‘World Cup’ the TV rights are by-and-large given away. Not a lot of competition by tv stations around the world to watch Hull vs Bradfield play a derivation of a world game.

i had a mate who went to the opening game of the ‘world cup’ after being one of the 10,000 who were given free tickets and he left at half time with half the stadium.

By: Matt S

Matt S — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:57:51 +0000

Interesting in the SMH today:

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/sydney-tunes-in-and-turns-on-to-nrl-as-afl-drops-out-20091220-l7i4.html

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/we-will-fight-them-on-the-couches-league-outrates-afl-for-first-time-20091220-l7i3.html

By: Chris

Chris — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:50:51 +0000

Uh… no – Geelong is smaller than every single city I mentioned.

By: Chris

Chris — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:48:15 +0000

doesn’t seem to help the A-Leauge (where ratings are measured in the thousands and crowds in the hundreds).

By: Midfielder

Midfielder — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:43:39 +0000

Steve

Not sure the Bears have that same following as Souths … however aside from that and putting my business hat on .. a NZ or PNG team would add a huge potential TC audience..

Ocenia has 11 million people with the big three PNG 5.8 million, NZ 4.2 million and Fiji .8 of a million… given NSW & QLD in total have about 11.6 million to me it is a no brainer where the teams go…I find the push for a CC team is more for a feel good factor… No doubt they will get reasonable crowds and make some people feel better but the CC is already one of RL highest rating TV areas … how much more can they add to the ratings… Perth / PNG / NZ offer between them more than doubling the size of the the RL footprint…maybe as much as 13 million extra people…

By: sheek

sheek — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:52:19 +0000

Rugby union (of which I’m a fan) is clutching at straws if it thinks including pay-TV recorded matches is going to make a significant difference to their figures.

Crowd figures & TV ratings are all relative, IMHO. Whether you include pubs & airport departure lounge figures isn’t going to significantly alter the facts.

Did I ever mention league & union will come together anyway………. ???

By: Steve Kaless

Steve Kaless — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 11:19:00 +0000

I largely believe it is, but I have noticed many good folk enjoy a ratings dispute so when I heard of this tale I felt it was wrth sharing. I’m just getting into the spirit of the season.

Merry Christmas.

By: Steve Kaless

Steve Kaless — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 11:17:33 +0000

Midfielder,

For different reasons I’d go with both Perth and Central Coast in 2013. CC should be a no-brainer, and shouldn’t require the hard work of Perth, if anything it would be an enormous god will gesture to bring back the Bears and would be a huge shot in the arm for the game much like the return of the Rabbitohs (Wouldn’t be a dry eye in the house when they first march back out).

Perth would definately take more work, but valuable in order to have a national comp, getting rid of the Reds remains a grave error.

I think RL is quiet because it will be all be down to the IC which is yet to kick off.

By: The Answer

The Answer — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 11:08:20 +0000

I believe it is known as just Adelaide.

By: Dogs Of War

Dogs Of War — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 08:04:58 +0000

Yeah, I watched it while the season was going on, as at that level it can be entertaining. I am one of those middle class people that rugbyfuture rabbits on about that don’t spend money on pay TV. Can’t justify it really when all I use it for is watching the odd sports match.

By: Justin

Justin — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 07:33:17 +0000

DOW – hate to tell you but the Shute Shield aint on pay tv, its on ABC HD

By: Corey

Corey — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 07:20:01 +0000

I think Rugby League in Melbourne will get a slight boost as well- due to it being played after midnight on free-to-air. But Rugby will win that one for sure. The gap won’t close immensely though. And for most international rugby matches there is a replay the following day or week for a more viewer friendly time slot. So that may not help there.

By: Dogs Of War

Dogs Of War — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:56:40 +0000

Not to mention that if League can deal with Fox sports separately (rather than via whatever channel wins the rights), they will be in a much better position financially. This all depends on the anti-siphoning rules being somewhat relaxed.

By: M1tch

M1tch — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:33:19 +0000

Channel 7 has already said they are interested in Origin and finals..
The separate packs deals is something we have needed for a long time, and once the game is independently owned there are no conflicts like their currently is with Fox and 9

By: Southern Waratah

Southern Waratah — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:40:28 +0000

They was I see it, League can be the big looser out of all of this, The NRL have been told there will be no substantial increase in the TV rights. Channel 9 is now run but a financial consortium who will do the numbers on what’s the better rating TV sport in Australia. If AFL proves to have a wider viewing audience Channel 9 may well pool all their money together to get the AFL TV rights allowing also that its has a wider national coverage, also given they’ve had them once before and that 7 & 10 had to work together to secure them this time around a single focused bid for AFL could be the catalyst & real danger that League could end up with little or no TV rights bedding war.
Where does the money come from then? Certainly not gate takings….

By: Southern Waratah

Southern Waratah — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:40:01 +0000

They was I see it, League can be the big looser out of all of this, The NRL have been told there will be no substantial increase in the TV rights. Channel 9 is now run but a financial consortium who will do the numbers on what’s the better rating TV sport in Australia. If AFL proves to have a wider viewing audience Channel 9 may well pool all their money together to get the AFL TV rights allowing also that its has a wider national coverage, also given they’ve had them once before and that 7 & 10 had to work together to secure them this time around a single focused bid for AFL could be the catalist & real danger that League could end up with little or no TV rights bedding war.
Where does the money come from then? Certainly not gate takings….

By: Sam Taulelei

Sam Taulelei — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:58:50 +0000

hey that’s not fair I have a great love for rugby, if you live outside of NSW and Queensland, Foxtel is the only way you can watch any rugby as it’s rarely broadcast by channel 7 and if it is it’s after midnight. It’s not a case of stupidity but desire and lack of choice.

By: rugbyfuture

rugbyfuture — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:58:15 +0000

yeh i don’t agree with him, but i hold by my statement that the middle class boujour dont actually get pay tv much as other socio economic groups, yet they’re the ones who support rugby

By: Dogs Of War

Dogs Of War — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:40:49 +0000

Mate, it’s the only way to see any Rugby. Unless you are content with the odd international that gets shown on Free to air.

Anyway, it’s your Rugby loving mate that is making the claim that it’s quite popular on pay TV, while you make the opposite statement. I think you two need to sit down and get your story’s straight.

By: rugbyfuture

rugbyfuture — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:28:57 +0000

because many people who love rugby, arent stupid enough to pay for pay tv

By: Rod

Rod — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:51:11 +0000

Because RU fans hear something once from their mates and it becomes folk law.

And crashy, if there is no interest in the ESL, why can it get on FTA TV in Australia and all RU bar Wallaby tests can’t?

Please try harder

By: Dogs Of War

Dogs Of War — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:58:10 +0000

http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/e-news/uploads/1/ASTRA-Ratings-for-Week-091129.pdf

Hmm, I see Hanna Montana, I see old re runs of Seinfeld, I even see WWE Raw, yet for the life of me I can’t see any Rugby Union, why is that? There are no other sports really up against it, so why isn’t it making the top 50 programs on pay TV for the week?

By: Dogs Of War

Dogs Of War — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:40:43 +0000

Hahaha, even though I do watch the Shute Shield games, I highly doubt that is the case.

Anyway, I will get your some proof shortly.

By: crashy

crashy — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:39:07 +0000

Nope – dont need to. How about you prove they don’t rate well.
Shute Shield outrated the AFL this season in NSW on 2 occasions.
what’s your point?

By: Dogs Of War

Dogs Of War — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:35:12 +0000

C’mon, prove they rate well. Do they rate better than the Super 14? How many houses are tuning into these Rugby shows.

By: Crashy

Crashy — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:19:25 +0000

Rod – Fox show all the foreign rugby comps as funnnily enough there are a lot of saffas and poms that live in Aus!! these shows rate well actually.
Maybe we just need to realise that there is no interest in the ESL good forbid.
Don’t ruin your argument by saying sweeping statements like ‘Australians hardly watch their own RU comps’. People that dont follow rugby don’t watch rugby comps much like where I don’t watch league.
Do you think there is some anti-league conspiracy by the owners of Fox Sports?
wow