Why Mayweather can’t lose fight for the ages
By sportsfanslife.com, 20 Dec 2009 sportsfanslife.com is a Roar Pro
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It’s not often we, as fight fans, get what we want. With too many official bodies offering too many belts to too many pretenders, and not enough contenders, it seems at times that, as fans of this brutal yet beautiful sport, we are often left feeling like the only ones who get short changed amongst the glitz, glamour and cash at the high end of the sport.
Until now.
With the announcement that Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao will face off in a fight that promises to break all sorts of revenue records on March 13th, as a fight fan you are no doubt (a) planning your fight party well in advance (b) saying thanks for not having to sit through another Klitschko Brother fight (for the record, if I knew Russian, which I don’t, I’d be pretty certain that Klitschko translates to English as ‘Boring as Hell’) and most importantly (c) wondering why every ‘big’ fight doesn’t make you feel this excited.
This could be one for the ages.
There aren’t too many boxing observers that would disagree with the statement that the unofficial title of Best Pound for Pound Fighter on the Planet will rest with the victor of this fight.
It’s just a shame that the result rests in the hands of only one of them.
It’s no secret that I am a fan of ‘Pretty Boy Floyd’, which isn’t to say that I don’t respect Pacquiao’s ability and amazing achievements in the ring.
Manny has proven to be a warrior, taking on, and defeating, brutally in many cases, any fighter that has come his way, regardless of reputation or chances of knocking him out. At times, this couldn’t be said of Mayweather, especially having dodged Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito while both were at their respective peaks. Whilst not shying away from those questionable past choices, not to end up in the ring with either or both Cotto or Margarito, and understanding those that say this indicates a lack of heart on Floyd’s part, with wins over Ricky Hatton and Carlos Baldomir within his last four fights, not to mention Oscar de la Hoya (who was well past his best years but still possessed knockout ability and must have been less past it vs Mayweather than when he faced Manny himself last year?), surely this argument is fading, especially in light of this latest fight coming to fruition, and so quickly.
One look over Mayweather’s unblemished record will show wins over Arturo Gatti (may he R.I.P) and Jose Luis Castillo, both future Hall of Fame fighters and certainly no slouches themselves.
Every boxing fan will have an opinion on this fight, that’s what makes it great, and one of the things I love about the sport. My opinion is that Floyd can’t lose, won’t lose. He has superior hand speed, footwork, defence, and a comparable knock out rate with Pac-Man (although so far as pure punching power, I give the advantage to Manny).
This will be an unpopular opinion with many, specifically fans of Pacquiao, which I accept. This has more to do with people’s views on Floyd’s persona rather than their view of him as one of the best fighters we have seen. Floyd’s mouth often runs…fast, and seemingly out of control. This is who he is. He does everything fast. Fast money, fast talking, fast living….but most concerning for Pacquiao and his legion of fans, will be the speed at which he moves his hands.
As I mentioned previously, Mayweather possesses knock out power, there’s no doubt about that, and even less doubt about the sleeping pills in Manny’s hands after witnessing his effort vs Hatton (the bells are still ringing in Ricky’s ears).
But, based on Pacquiao’s last fight vs Cotto, I think this fight will go the distance. If Cotto can go 12 rounds (albeit not quite the full 12, and depending on who you ask, he was a side of beef after six rounds..but still, he was upright) with his primary defensive tactic being to deflect the majority of punches with his face, then Floyd’s movement and ability to keep his chin out of harms way will be enough to get him through 36 minutes safely enough (anyone in the ring with Manny Pacquiao is going to eat their share of punches, it’s the clean, pure, power punches that do the damage, and hitting ‘Money’ cleanly is like winning Lotto).
So, and not to give any of my educated boxing readers a condescending lesson on the sweet science, but if the fight goes the distance, we come down to points, and if we come down to points, we come down to punches thrown, punches landed and depending on who is doing the scoring, a little luck.
Even if we ignore the luck element and remain oblivious to the fact that the fight will likely be in Las Vegas, Mayweather’s home, and his record of getting the best of any decision he has been a part of (and he is an American, fighting a foreigner in Vegas, this can’t be discounted, regardless of Pac-Man’s popularity in the sport), Floyd will still throw more punches, with more accuracy, and for more rounds, than anyone Pacquiao has faced in his career. If he manages to withstand them, which admittedly he is more than capable of doing, it’s still not going to help him with the judges. Advantage? Money.
Pacquiao has gained the support of millions of fight fans around the world with his heart, courage and determination. The fact that he is a tremendously talented fighter, coupled with his relentless pursuit of his opponent in the ring makes him a hit on Pay per View TVs across the globe. While he possesses many strengths, and is more than adequate defensively, it is his aggressive style that I think could ultimately swing the fight in Mayweather’s favour.
With Manny moving forward more often than not, constantly on the attack and looking to land either of those vicious hands, I really feel that Floyd’s ability to slip and score, often with three or four punch combinations will see him in front at the end of every round, save a flash knock down by Manny (which isn’t out of the question). The fact he will no doubt be backing up a lot of the fight, keeping Manny’s punches longer and not allowing him to set his feet, therefore taking some of the heat off his blows, lessens the chance of both fighters trading blows, which increases Pacquiao’s chances of scoring another devastating knock out. Advantage? Again, to me it lies with Money.
So if he can’t land the punches he wants, and the punches he does land are not as clean as he has become accustomed to landing, at the very least this means Manny Pacquiao could be in for a long night. In any case he will be forced to earn the millions of dollars he stands to gain. At worst? As the rounds, and scores mount against him, it places Pacquiao in an unfamiliar position of playing catch up, which generally leads to risks being taken in the ring. A high risk combination, a punch with more frustration behind it than technique, one second of doubt, all of these things will play on any fighters mind, Manny is not immune, even if he is mentally tougher than many fighters, even some of the greats. If he takes risks, he will get knocked out. Simple as that. Mayweather has picked off even the most focused of fighters in the ring with better defence and equally harder hands as Pac-Man, if Manny is careless, even as a result of frustration, he loses the fight. Hands down.
Regardless of any of these points (what do I know anyway?), the fact remains that, provided it lives up to the hype it has already started to generate, this will be a fight most fight fans won’t want to miss, and there’s a good chance we’ll be watching highlights some time down the track, glad that we had paid our $49.95 for the privilege. I’ve started planning my fight party (have you?), and am anticipating the book so I can lay some hard earned down on it.
No prizes for guessing who I’ll be backing…
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Nelson CBR said | December 20th 2009 @ 5:00am | Report comment
I’ve seen an even better analysis of how Pacman’s opponent will win against him through various tactics and game plans but they all went down the drain as soon as the bell ring. This is nothing new, in fact I know this is more of an anti-climactic fight for the Pacman. It should be his easiest to date and you may have heard how Pacman’s trainer saying this will be his toughest, and you should know that this is how a master tactician/mind game specialist is at work. But keep these articles coming, it increases my payout. This should be my biggest so far.
Hank said | December 20th 2009 @ 5:03am | Report comment
And the dream goes on. It all sounds too good to be true, as long as you don’t wake up.
John said | December 20th 2009 @ 5:15am | Report comment
This fight is something not to be missed. This may be both fighters last fight at their peak. We are already enjoying the drama as the March 13 get nearer.
Phoocquiao said | December 20th 2009 @ 5:38am | Report comment
I like your article. Well written, actually based on facts. Very nice.
having said that, I think can will win this fight. Most people that are picking Floyd are doing so thinking that Pac is gonna be this over aggressive fighter and just recklessly try to land on Floyd. Nothing could be further from the truth. We’ll version of Pac that we will see will be a more refined version of the De La Hoya Pacquiao. You can hardly call him over aggressive or even aggressive in that fight.
Hatton bull rushed Pacquiao and Cotto couldn’t hurt him. Also, Pac went into those fights knowing each fighters weaknesses and the gaps where he could go for the KO shot. Floyd don’t have those gaps and Pac knows that. He’s gonna try to beat Floyd at his own game and set traps and fight in spots. Floyd was able to get the upper hand against Judah, because Judah didn’t want to fight. Once Floyd realized this and applied pressure, Judah broke down. Floyd isn’t gonna have that luxury because Pacquiao WANTS to fight. I see Pac forcing Floyd to fight in more spots than what he wants. Imagine Zab Judah fighting at Ricky Hattons pace, only better.
In this fight, Floyd will not have the overwhelming speed advantage. And while you maintain that Floyd is faster, I feel that the speed he displayed against Judah and Marquez wasn’t any faster than Pac vs. Hatton and Cotto. Floyd also won’t have the conditioning edge either because both fighters are gym rats. Actually scratch that, they are both Gym Capybaras (giant rat). While Floyd is more athletic, Manny has proven that he can fight at a high speed without getting tired or losing strength. Also, Pac is quicker on his feet due to his martial arts background and basketball. His fast movement along with Mayweather-esque reflexes will help Pac to neutralize Floyd’s speed and put Pac into position to capitalize on his own power.
If De La Hoya – Trinidad taught us anything, it’s that landing the most punches while not getting hit as much, doesn’t guarantee a decision. Especially if Pac can steal some moments. Judges will more than likely see the fight as Floyd NOT engaging and still not able to win all the spots.
The last fight Floyd lost was in the amateurs against a southpaw that out worked Floyd. Floyd hasn’t seen a fighter like that since. To make things fair, Pacquiao hasn’t seen a fighter like Floyd either. As a matter of fact, it’s very short-sighted to try to pick a winner based on each fighters past fights. I mean, how many opponents have each faced that were in the ATG conversation? Zero. They’ve each faced their share of Hall-of-Famers, but all-time greats?
Finally, Sun Tzu. The famous general and father of warfare says, “Know yourself, and know your enemy. One-thousand battles, one-thousand victories”. Floyd doesn’t watch tapes of his opponents, which has worked great for him due to his overwhelming skill set, (Manny didn’t start watching tapes until he lost to Morales) but that will hurt him is this fight. You can bet that Manny and his boxing Master (Sifu) Freddie Roach will know Floyd inside and out come fight night.
Of course, what do we know, right? To this day no one can tell you what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. On March 13th, we’ll finally have our answer (hopefully)
sportsfanslife.com said | December 20th 2009 @ 11:52am | Report comment
All great points, and I’m not sure either of us is going to be right. With the talent of both fighters, it could go a totally different way than either has shown before. That’s what has me most excited about the fight. Let’s hope it lives up to the hype eh?
Phoocquiao said | December 20th 2009 @ 1:23pm | Report comment
Yeah, I really see this fight as Skill vs Will. I agree, let’s hope this fight lives up to the hype.
Lokainam said | December 20th 2009 @ 3:58pm | Report comment
“When an unstoppable force meets and immovable object.”
Chuck Norris will die.
brick said | December 20th 2009 @ 6:26pm | Report comment
You had the better analysis than than the writer. In fact, the speed of pacman is deceiving. I thought he was really not that speedy. But when I saw hatton fell down I didnt see a punch until the replay with that right hook. ditto with cotto in the fourth round just feel down with people not seeing a punch. But on reply man it was a left upper cut straight to the jaw. This lies the difference Pretty boy jabbing but pacman ducking and ducking and then suddenly boom, you can see me> big punch to pretty boys face sent him down. Or did you see cotto sideviewing defense ala pretty boy, well manny punch his left shoulder which run to his face. cant wait to happen man.
George said | December 20th 2009 @ 5:43am | Report comment
it’s good that you are admitting to be Money’s fan. That makes it understandable why you favored him. One thing you forget is that, Pacman’s style is like no other. He is unorthodox lefty with tremendous hand speed and knock-out power. A lot of critics watching his fight doesn’t believe in his capabilities because they are not used seeing it. However, it;s the same trait, that leaves a lot of his foe wondering what hit them in the ring and eventually lose to Pacquaio. They have no answer. You may think Floyd as a Superman but Manny will be his Kryptonite….
sportsfanslife.com said | December 20th 2009 @ 11:54am | Report comment
George, I am a fan of both guys, I have just followed Floyd’s career more closely over a longer period of time is all. There is no doubt in my mind that Manny has every tool to put any opponent to sleep, and he will go down in history.Chances are, a lot of that history, good, bad or indifferent, could be written in this fight. Can’t wait!
avidboxingfan said | December 20th 2009 @ 5:55am | Report comment
…then please tell floyd to sign the contract! if he is the best as what he proclamed, then why delayed the fight? manny already agreed the terms and conditions floyd’s team accepted w/ bob arum. fighters do fight (of course with the guaranteed price acceptable to both fighters) and selecting the venue is promoters’ job. then please tell me why team floyd is so concerned of the venue? they want to have the hometown decision? the only venue questionable to me is texas! even if floyd is from vegas, i don’t think he has the advantage in terms of home crowd and decision. NSAC have respected professional referees and judges! the only advantage for floyd that i saw in this fight is, only few (16,000+) will boo him in LV than in cowboy stadium (90,000+) when he start running & running. have you heard the boo cotto received during the fight from 9 rounds? can you imagine if pacman hit him with a solid left and floyd start to ride his bicycle then pacman will not chase him? isn’t funny that the self proclaimed the best starts to run and probably wanted to go out to the ring immediately after manny hit him with that shot? i guess what the crowd done to cotto when cotto starts running will do the same to floyd.
ali says’, if you are a great fighter, you can’t have “0″ L on your record. have you heard that statement the other night on ABC? unless you are cherry picking your opponent and not fighting the best.
pleaaaaaaaseeeeeeeeeeeee tell floyd to step up the plate. for the record, he said, the only thing that pacquiao need to do is, ” STEP UP THE PLATE!”. come’on, where is floyd right now?
boxingfan said | December 21st 2009 @ 4:55pm | Report comment
you know nothing about boxing.
Steve London said | December 20th 2009 @ 6:02am | Report comment
Your a funny guy.are you really a writer?cos you sound like the usual blinkered mweather fans.
I agree with some points,disagree on others.
Agreed,tough fight for both,it will go on points,because mweather wont engage he’ll run.If you find that attractive in boxing,have you heard of another sport,you’ll probably love it,its called 100 metres sprint.Look it up see what you think.
You mentioned a few things about mweather,volume of punches?Castillo and De la Hoya fight?check the punch stat.Mweather looks great against small,under weight,slow,old fighters who want s payday.ie Hatton,Marquez,are you really suggesting Gatti stood any chance?
You mentioned mweather KO power?can you tell me his last KO,Hatton?he fought like a fool and was exhausted,he was counted out on his feet.
Every fight Pacquiao has been in,he has improved each time,with a new weapon to add to his already large arsenal.Dont be so naiive to think the fighter that stood toe to toe with Cotto,Hatton,will do the same with mweather.Im sure thats what mweather and his uncle and dad wants,(the 3 Degrees of boxing)
I dont think this fight will be easy for Pacquiao,far from it.Mweather is a great defensive fight,Pacquiao will get through and hurt him.Mweather skills isnt what you remember looking through in your rose tinted glasses.Hes fought lower league fighters out of choice for an easy payday,his skills is erroded.He isnt as fast as before,yes he looked great against Marquez,old guy,coming up 2 weight classes against your guy mweather who wouldnt even come in on the agreed weight.Yes a real class act,a role model for all.
Anyway,finally this fight wont happen.Why? mweather has ducked anyone who can hurt him,pressure him or beat him,you know the names.Why would be suddenly agree to fight Pacquiao?
Remember this come March 13th when mweather is in the ring,in England with that all time great Mathew Hatton.
Now mweather is the funny guy,as fools like you pay to watch that @*%**@
sportsfanslife.com said | December 20th 2009 @ 12:01pm | Report comment
There’ll be plenty of ‘fools’ paying to watch this fight Steve. I’ll have plenty of company. I never said Floyd was my role model, only that I am a fan of his as a boxer. While coming in against Marquez overweight wasn’t his classiest move, I’ll grant that, if you think that being 2lbs overweight is what won him the fight, I guess I’m not the only naive one in this discussion?
Rocky said | December 20th 2009 @ 3:59pm | Report comment
If your a fan of floyd as a “BOXER” then you are one of those who likes BORING stuff. Let’s not define BOXING, the term itself defines it. And you think there is something to be fond about floyd? As a “BOXER”? You’ve followed his career? He can’t lose a fight and won’t lose a fight! Yeah! Because he never fights! This is boxing dude! BOXING! Capital B! O! X! I! N! G! BOXING! You BOX! You FIGHT! You THROW PUNCHES! floyd keeps on saying that he is the best because he uses his “HEAD” when he FIGHTS (?) but does he really FIGHT? He RUNS dude! He RUNS! You can defend yourself in BOXING! even if you won’t RUN like a mouse! as what floyd is doing!
zone-6 bulan,sor said | December 20th 2009 @ 9:07pm | Report comment
hey mister let me remind you that mayweather did not fight marquez with only 2lbs weight advantage… he refused to be weighed just before the fight because he was at least 15 lbs bigger than marquez…. had it occured to u what wud happen to marquez if he fought a 15-lb-bigger pacquiao rather than mayweather?
sportsfanslife.com said | December 23rd 2009 @ 12:59pm | Report comment
Hey, Mister…you might want to read the last paragraph of this article http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4766171 . He weighed in the night before the fight, which is the requirement, at 2lbs more at the specified weight, As I said. What fighter doesn’t weigh a lot more in the ring than they do at the weigh in??? While you’re at it…you might be interested in the rest of the story.Propanganda maybe, but it makes for interesting reading…
elias said | December 20th 2009 @ 7:05am | Report comment
Guess your right on most accounts. However, the winner, at least to the boxing historians’ perspective, will be gauged according to the style and not by the judges. Surely, mayweather’s style gives him all advantages against any other exciting techniques by less physically imposing boxers. But it’s not something that any fighter of the same athleticism cannot emulate, its just that it’s not rich in excitement. And if you take away perhaps the physical advantages i.e. reach and height, Pacquiao’s style would always dominate, Floyd’s techniques should probably be labeled a whole different sport coz it does not belong inside the current expectation inside the ring. Give him the credit for laying out the blueprint for that style. The pressure must be mounting in Floyd’s shoulder right now cause he must dominate the fight as expected. Wish he has the heart to do so, and this is just where he can employ his big EGGO. I just feel sorry for Money May coz It’s a rather win win situation for Manny P regardless of result.
toughguy said | December 21st 2009 @ 12:15am | Report comment
how can u say that it is expected for PBF to dominate when that expectation does not reflect on the betting odds. Do people expect PBF to dominate a fighter who absorbed the best shots from a legitimate welter fighter that PBF ducked???????? And I dont believe that PBF is stronger than Cotto. Common throw those lame excuses away.
Fighting Star said | December 20th 2009 @ 7:21am | Report comment
I agree with you whole heartedly. add the fact that Manny has to leap and lunge to connect, and even more with Floyd because he fights long, tall and very upright. This makes Mayweather very difficult to hit. Manny will get countered often and sometimes very hard. Remember Manny cuts easily!!! Floyd will cut him and I see a 10th round stoppage as a possibility as well.
ForgiveThemTheyDoNotKnowWhatThe'reSaying said | December 20th 2009 @ 4:06pm | Report comment
Haven’t we all learned our lesson? Are we really that hardheaded? How many times will we say that Manny is a Donkey and Dela Hoya, Hatton, Cotto or whoever it is is the Mustang or the Stallion? We need to think deeper! Manny is not going with the conventional wisdom of boxing that the bigger, taller, longer boxer has all the advantages! Saying that Cotto is the bigger guy and with the punching power of a natural welterweight proves it all, He is just “natural”! while Manny on the other hand is the SUPERnatural! Cotto was knocked out! Don’t we get it yet? March 13 2010 is the day all of us will witness yet again what a supernatural phenomenon Manny Pacquiao is to the boxing world!
zone-6 bulan,sor said | December 20th 2009 @ 9:32pm | Report comment
hehehe keep dreaming fighting star…. mayweather needs u badly…. ure a true believer…. hehehehe
zone-6 bulan,sor said | December 20th 2009 @ 9:44pm | Report comment
hehehehe what do u mean by a very upright fighting style?
perry ayos said | December 20th 2009 @ 8:04am | Report comment
The writer is clearly a Floyd ass-kisser, not just a fan. Let me tell you man. Floyd’s running and dancing style won’t work for Manny Pacquiao. But you have to wait and see to believe it. Start saving your grocery change now to cover PPV order on March 13, 2010.
sportsfanslife.com said | December 21st 2009 @ 8:48pm | Report comment
The writer, that being Me, is a fan of both fighters, and boxing in general. Yes, I feel Floyd will win the fight, but if you read the article it clearly states my respect for Manny also. Not sure what I have to gain by kissing the ass of a boxer that’ll never read anything I have to say. Everyone has an opinion on the fight, it’s what you would expect for a fight of this magnitude. Does this make us all ass-kissers as you put it?