Are the A-League finals really a bad thing?
By Mike Tuckerman, 22 Dec 2009 Mike Tuckerman is a Roar Expert
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Newcastle Jets' Fabio Vignaroli (right) congratulates Jin Hyung Song. July 26, 2009. Sydney FC and the Newcastle Jets drew 1-1. AAP Image/Paul Miller
Much of the attention on last weekend’s absorbing round of A-League action was focused on Etihad Stadium, but while Melbourne Victory and Sydney FC played out a scoreless draw, elsewhere a couple of clubs were making moves of their own.
One such outfit was Brisbane Roar, with Ange Postecoglu’s side recording their second win within the space of three days to establish themselves in the top six.
Brisbane’s midweek victory over North Queensland proved not only that fans will come out to see the right kind of marquee player – in this case the Fury’s Robbie Fowler – but also that there are plenty of other useful foreign signings to snap up.
Sergio van Dijk may have arrived in Australia as an unheralded Dutch journeyman, but the burly striker has vindicated the Roar’s scouting department with some devastatingly effective performances of late.
Just as impressive is the faith new coach Postecoglu has shown in some of his youngsters, with the pace of Michael Zullo, Adam Sarota and Tommy Oar set to cause constant headaches for opposition defences over the coming weeks.
Meanwhile, Branko Culina’s Newcastle Jets recorded their fourth win in succession in a thrilling 3-2 victory over the unlucky Fury, as the Novocastrians moved into outright fourth in the table.
Temperamental club owner Con Constantine must have been tempted to give Culina the flick following Newcastle’s dismal start to the campaign, yet his patience has been rewarded with an impressive surge up the standings.
All of which would be redundant were it not for the A-League finals.
Newcastle’s rise from the foot of the table to top four contenders has been impressive, but few would care were it not for the fact that the Jets can now actually win something.
There are plenty of purists out there who insist that the A-League champions should be decided solely on the basis of first-past-the-post.
That might be how it’s done elsewhere, but doing away with the finals series robs mid-table teams of the motivation to persevere at the back end of the season.
What incentive would Perth Glory have to continue busting their lungs if it weren’t for the fact that they could belatedly sneak back into the top six?
Yes, the current finals format somewhat rewards mediocrity – but if Melbourne Victory and Sydney FC have been as dominant as their points haul suggests, they should be able to account for whomever they come up against in the finals.
After all, Melbourne have twice lifted the A-League title after winning the premiership, and every club is well aware of the pitfalls of finals football.
The first-past-the-post school has merit, but whether it’s a short-term option for the A-League is a matter for debate.
How much longer the Asian Football Confederation continues to tolerate finals football is also open to interpretation – although I’m not sure where their new-found belligerence stems from, given that a few years ago they were about as organised as the Fury’s back four.
But with Brisbane and Newcastle now surging into form, I’d be happy to see them rewarded with the opportunity to play finals football.
I’m also intrigued whether the bottom four can conjure their own late surge towards the stop six – including last season’s runner-up, Adelaide United.
There are many fans who believe the finals should be discarded post haste – but I don’t think they’re such a bad idea, at least for the foreseeable future.
A run to the finals maintains interest until the final round of fixtures when there’s no relegation battles to mull over, and gives those who miss out on topping the table a second chance to win the main event.
But is that even something the majority of A-League fans want? Share your thoughts here and we’ll find out.
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albe said | December 22nd 2009 @ 6:30am | Report comment
‘run to the finals maintains interest until the final round of fixtures when there’s no relegation battles to mull over ‘
says it all for me. I don’t like the finals. I’m too used to the world football norm of a League and Cup structure. To me the finals are more of a cup competition. So i won’t watch until the Final maybe.
a necessary evil i guess until we get a more ideal set-up with two divisions, an FFA Cup etc down the track.
I do wish that the final day of the League season had more build-up and importance.
Vince said | December 22nd 2009 @ 6:47am | Report comment
Australians love Finals and the best way to get the regular punter who isn’t a football fan to take notice in the early years is through a Finals series.
Locally here in our amateur comp we have a Grand Final Series which keeps the low to mid range teams interested right up to the end of the season as 4 out of 6 can make it.
Is it traditional? No, but you have to market your product to keep the punters happy and the punters want Finals.
MV Dave said | December 22nd 2009 @ 7:28am | Report comment
Agreed Vince it is the ‘Aussie’ way of doing things. Finals/play offs bring in the biggest crowds and more overall interest from the general public/media etc.
heckers69 said | December 22nd 2009 @ 7:38am | Report comment
yeh we need finals. with no relegation or promotion!!!
it keeps everything exciting so even if a team goes through undefefeated they could perhaps be beaten in the grand final by the 6th place team
Adam said | December 22nd 2009 @ 7:44am | Report comment
Where have the AFC made any comment on finals?
Punter said | December 22nd 2009 @ 7:50am | Report comment
I think we need to give credence to both first past the post & the finals winners.
Gibbo said | December 22nd 2009 @ 10:32am | Report comment
yeah i agree – the winner of the league is the premier, and the top 6 qualify for the a-league cup. So melb victory would have won a double last year, rather than topping the table before winning the finals series.
Tom said | December 22nd 2009 @ 7:56am | Report comment
Finals are needed for a number of reasons. Money, attendances and media are the three biggest.
The problem is the ridiculous structure where the top 2 teams are likely to play each other three times in four weeks.
Adam said | December 22nd 2009 @ 8:17am | Report comment
Especially with the crowd issues between those top 2 teams and the fact they play each other in the last round making it 4 games in 5 weeks.
Rhys said | December 22nd 2009 @ 8:27am | Report comment
Finals football is a tradition, look at most of Sth. America
albe said | December 22nd 2009 @ 11:03am | Report comment
not the same as finals, they have all different systems there. There’s many, many more countries around the world with a league/cup style structure rather than the finals system we have here.
it’ll be great if they ditch the rugby/aussie rules-style grand final one day for a true FFA Cup Final. Along with a second division, promotion/relegation, all that stuff… its a good ideal for FFA to work towards.
Nick S said | December 22nd 2009 @ 8:35am | Report comment
Agree with all the comments above. In Europe it is fine to have a first past the post, because they have mid-table battles (in England, France, Spain, Germany and Italy) where everyone as low as ten can be in the hunt for Europe spots in the final weeks, whilst the bottome eight or so are in the relegation battle. Thus nearly every team has a meaningful ‘goal’ for the season and something to tune in and get interested about. And of course they have mutiple cup’s to give their fans that straight ‘must-win’ ‘take-all’ atmosphere.
If we had a first past the post why would I watch even one more Roar or Adelaide gamet his season? They can’t get relegated, they won’t win the League…
Having said all that, six is a bit too much, they should have kept it at four until they expanded to 12 teams. It is as stupid as expanding to 11 instead of waiting one year and expanding to a neat 12…
Eamonn Flanagan said | December 22nd 2009 @ 8:35am | Report comment
Mike you obviously didn’t watch Perth on the weekend. Not a lung bursting run to be seen, or maybe one when the subs got dragged!
In Australia finals are great, and needed. Bring them on, and with more one-off finals games this year they should be more exciting than ever.
With an Asian place for the first past the post that first spot is still well rewarded.
Besides under the first past the post system had Melbourne won on the weeked 6 clear with 8 to play…season could be over for 8 teams if not 10 already. Who would want that?
For now we have the possibilities of a Jets run to second spot, Gold Coast could still make number one if Miller can revitalise them, Sydney well they could do anything, but could conceivably be playing Melbourne in the last game of the regular season for the Asian spot, Fowler could still make the finals and who would bet against them in a one-off game…and The Roar under Ange are flying…maybe. Mariners could cling to six spot, Wellington still desperate to make the six, and Adelaide have fools hope, but still have hope…although it’s never going to happen for them this year.
First past the post…none of the above and more would matter much.
AndyRoo said | December 22nd 2009 @ 9:31am | Report comment
Well we play 3 rounds so it’s not exactly a fair home and away.
The fact the minor premiers get an ACL spot for me makes it quite a worthy achievement where as in other codes in Australia it doesn’t mean much other than seeding for the finals.
It’s a good balance really and I know I want my team to win the minor premiership because it means at least 6 extra ACL games to watch
Eddie said | December 22nd 2009 @ 12:22pm | Report comment
It’s the premiership not minor premiership.
AndyRoo said | December 22nd 2009 @ 2:17pm | Report comment
Sorry FFA marketing department but I was trying to avoid confusion when comparing the other Australian codes.