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		<title>By: RJ</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-3/#comment-276142</link>
		<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another move designed to squeeze in more ads for tv, nothing more and nothing less.</description>
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		<title>By: dragonjem</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-3/#comment-275882</link>
		<dc:creator>dragonjem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez Mr. Kaless, could you be anymore negative about anything in the All Stars game? Are you sure you are looking forward to the game? Cos it really doesn&#039;t sound like it! It is first and foremost an EXHIBITION game, so why not try out different things to make it more appealing then it already is? And they are not saying that it&#039;s no longer going to have conversions...it&#039;s an OPTION Mr. Kaless, so it&#039;s not like the great kickers of the game are going to be forgotten about. I&#039;m so sick of everyone&#039;s damn negativity about this game!!! it&#039;s an awesome idea and it&#039;s going to be around for a LONG time so you might as well get used to it. I thrive on enthusiasm and that&#039;s what this game brings. Go Dragons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez Mr. Kaless, could you be anymore negative about anything in the All Stars game? Are you sure you are looking forward to the game? Cos it really doesn&#8217;t sound like it! It is first and foremost an EXHIBITION game, so why not try out different things to make it more appealing then it already is? And they are not saying that it&#8217;s no longer going to have conversions&#8230;it&#8217;s an OPTION Mr. Kaless, so it&#8217;s not like the great kickers of the game are going to be forgotten about. I&#8217;m so sick of everyone&#8217;s damn negativity about this game!!! it&#8217;s an awesome idea and it&#8217;s going to be around for a LONG time so you might as well get used to it. I thrive on enthusiasm and that&#8217;s what this game brings. Go Dragons.</p>
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		<title>By: Karlos</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-2/#comment-275348</link>
		<dc:creator>Karlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Union just keeps copying League. Read posts above concerning &quot;running in&quot;and realise that NFL came from Rugby as did League and this is a return to the roots of the game. So long as no kicking is allowed in trying to get the 2nd try, then I am all for it, but I do not think it would be used very often except as an option near the end of tight games. In think quarters might be for the heat (stupid) and of course the ground is marked like NFL, or rather the NFL is marked like Union. Flying wedges went out years ago.

It is called evolution and all codes look to each other for improvements. I think that is one of the dumbest posts I have ever read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Union just keeps copying League. Read posts above concerning &#8220;running in&#8221;and realise that NFL came from Rugby as did League and this is a return to the roots of the game. So long as no kicking is allowed in trying to get the 2nd try, then I am all for it, but I do not think it would be used very often except as an option near the end of tight games. In think quarters might be for the heat (stupid) and of course the ground is marked like NFL, or rather the NFL is marked like Union. Flying wedges went out years ago.</p>
<p>It is called evolution and all codes look to each other for improvements. I think that is one of the dumbest posts I have ever read.</p>
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		<title>By: Crosscoder</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-3/#comment-274398</link>
		<dc:creator>Crosscoder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that a Steeden in your pocket or are you just excited to smell the linament?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that a Steeden in your pocket or are you just excited to smell the linament?</p>
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		<title>By: Master Blaster</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-3/#comment-274341</link>
		<dc:creator>Master Blaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rrrrrrrrrrrrrr rugby league!!! 

Oh yeah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rrrrrrrrrrrrrr rugby league!!! </p>
<p>Oh yeah!</p>
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		<title>By: Mushi</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-3/#comment-274339</link>
		<dc:creator>Mushi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this looks as well thoughtout as one of those ideas form the american marketing guys in the CBA ads</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this looks as well thoughtout as one of those ideas form the american marketing guys in the CBA ads</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-2/#comment-273817</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without looking it up I think it&#039;s very rare in the NRL proper (even in the early rounds), happens plenty in trial matches though due to heat. 

I&#039;ve seen a few people complain that this is the TV companies intruding on the game and before you know it there&#039;ll be breaks in the NRL but I think it&#039;s a bit of a beat up. We&#039;ve seen this plenty of times before in trial matches without any suggestion it would become standard for the serious stuff. That said, if it is suggested it should be shot down with force - as a fan who acknowledges that money makes the world go round I don&#039;t mind if they plaster every spare space with advertising, if someone (Coke maybe) wants to pay them to play on red grass... I can even take the constant betting spruiking. Stopping the game for an ad break though is a step too far, the ebb and flow of the game is already sometimes dented by interminably slow video decisions, to schedule further interuptions would be detrimental.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without looking it up I think it&#8217;s very rare in the NRL proper (even in the early rounds), happens plenty in trial matches though due to heat. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen a few people complain that this is the TV companies intruding on the game and before you know it there&#8217;ll be breaks in the NRL but I think it&#8217;s a bit of a beat up. We&#8217;ve seen this plenty of times before in trial matches without any suggestion it would become standard for the serious stuff. That said, if it is suggested it should be shot down with force &#8211; as a fan who acknowledges that money makes the world go round I don&#8217;t mind if they plaster every spare space with advertising, if someone (Coke maybe) wants to pay them to play on red grass&#8230; I can even take the constant betting spruiking. Stopping the game for an ad break though is a step too far, the ebb and flow of the game is already sometimes dented by interminably slow video decisions, to schedule further interuptions would be detrimental.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick from Giralang</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-3/#comment-273768</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick from Giralang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree MG. The spectacle of blokes like Folau plucking a concise bomb out of the air has added an extra dimension to the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree MG. The spectacle of blokes like Folau plucking a concise bomb out of the air has added an extra dimension to the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Dogs Of War</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-3/#comment-273757</link>
		<dc:creator>Dogs Of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting really, I could see that kicks that are short of the try line should probably still be allowed so as to provide some element of unpredictability (stops everybody rushing up from the line). It&#039;s only a one off anyhow, if it was introduced into the Toyota Cup then I would hope they think through how it is used a little more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting really, I could see that kicks that are short of the try line should probably still be allowed so as to provide some element of unpredictability (stops everybody rushing up from the line). It&#8217;s only a one off anyhow, if it was introduced into the Toyota Cup then I would hope they think through how it is used a little more.</p>
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		<title>By: MyGeneration</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-3/#comment-273753</link>
		<dc:creator>MyGeneration</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Crosscoder&#039;s idea as well, although I think 1 extra tackle is enough. Not sure I&#039;m TOO worried about the prevalence of kicking currently. I think there is a lot of variety in the types of kicks and no need to go too far with removing kicking as an option. Also, do we want to give the refs something else to think about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Crosscoder&#8217;s idea as well, although I think 1 extra tackle is enough. Not sure I&#8217;m TOO worried about the prevalence of kicking currently. I think there is a lot of variety in the types of kicks and no need to go too far with removing kicking as an option. Also, do we want to give the refs something else to think about?</p>
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		<title>By: Mick from Giralang</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-3/#comment-273746</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick from Giralang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just the bomb that&#039;s banned on this play, or all types of kicking?</description>
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		<title>By: Mushi</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-273742</link>
		<dc:creator>Mushi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree, state of origin used to be the killer for me growing up, it felt like just about every game had an important 50/50 call and in close games that was the difference between winning and losing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree, state of origin used to be the killer for me growing up, it felt like just about every game had an important 50/50 call and in close games that was the difference between winning and losing.</p>
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		<title>By: adrien2166</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-3/#comment-273703</link>
		<dc:creator>adrien2166</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well ...kicking game is not too bad i think. Some great tries were scored by little kicks under the defensive line or on the wing, just remember the amazing try gasnier scored in anzac test 2008, and more recently a similar try was scored by australia in four nation final against england. These kind of try are unique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well &#8230;kicking game is not too bad i think. Some great tries were scored by little kicks under the defensive line or on the wing, just remember the amazing try gasnier scored in anzac test 2008, and more recently a similar try was scored by australia in four nation final against england. These kind of try are unique.</p>
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		<title>By: netrug</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-273599</link>
		<dc:creator>netrug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course you have to ground the ball for a try, and you had to when running the ball in.

Where were soccer goals mentinoned.  Maybe I should have said over the cross bar and between the uprights. In years gone by there were goals (conversions), penalty goals, field goals, drop goals and goals from marks, all using Rugby posts but different values at different times. Goals were worth a point originally and up to seven but the try value did not count, field goals and drop goals were worth four points and penalty goals, three. Field goals were eliminated in 1904, goals from a matk in thw 1980s and the drop goal reduced to three in 1946. Also in the 1980s the try was five points and the conversion worth two.

Running in is mentioned in &quot;Tom Browne&#039;s Schooldays&quot; and all values cf scoring methods can be seen by reading the Rugby Law books issued from 1845 onwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course you have to ground the ball for a try, and you had to when running the ball in.</p>
<p>Where were soccer goals mentinoned.  Maybe I should have said over the cross bar and between the uprights. In years gone by there were goals (conversions), penalty goals, field goals, drop goals and goals from marks, all using Rugby posts but different values at different times. Goals were worth a point originally and up to seven but the try value did not count, field goals and drop goals were worth four points and penalty goals, three. Field goals were eliminated in 1904, goals from a matk in thw 1980s and the drop goal reduced to three in 1946. Also in the 1980s the try was five points and the conversion worth two.</p>
<p>Running in is mentioned in &#8220;Tom Browne&#8217;s Schooldays&#8221; and all values cf scoring methods can be seen by reading the Rugby Law books issued from 1845 onwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Dogs Of War</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-3/#comment-273592</link>
		<dc:creator>Dogs Of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the only suggestion that could work to reduce kicking is to have 2 extra tackles available if you don&#039;t. If in those two tackles you do kick, then it&#039;s an instant handover of possession (From the 10m line if inside the 10). Crosscoder is spot on with this idea. Would be great to see it trialed in the U20&#039;s.

I don&#039;t like the mark (though we do sort of have that already for catches in the ingoal). And really hate the field the ball and place it down behind you own tryline, as that takes grubbers out, and makes it impossible to force a repeat set.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the only suggestion that could work to reduce kicking is to have 2 extra tackles available if you don&#8217;t. If in those two tackles you do kick, then it&#8217;s an instant handover of possession (From the 10m line if inside the 10). Crosscoder is spot on with this idea. Would be great to see it trialed in the U20&#8242;s.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the mark (though we do sort of have that already for catches in the ingoal). And really hate the field the ball and place it down behind you own tryline, as that takes grubbers out, and makes it impossible to force a repeat set.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-3/#comment-273590</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that most of these things are gimmicks they are implementing to drum up some publicity for the match. If they were serious about rule changes they would trial them in more than one match. Also, I wanna know what would happen to the quick-tap if every penalty decision needs to be explained by the ref? They don&#039;t have that problem in the NFL.

I&#039;d also like to hear Roarers opinions and ideas on the following: In several comments above a lot of people complained that there is too much kicking close to the try-line. I must say it&#039;s something in rugby league I don&#039;t like that much; it seems most of the time teams are in the opposition 20 m with one tackle left they either kick a bomb or a grubber and hope for the best. I&#039;d like to see more running tries with players running into space or breaking tackles. I think they could try two things to fix this:

1) Bring back the mark within 20 m of your try-line. They do  this in rugby union to try and reduce kicking close to the try-line and it seems to work. 
2) Because bringing back the mark would probably just mean teams kick grubbers instead of bombs, what about if you field the ball behind your own try-line and place it down you get your full 6 tackles from the 20 m line? If you carry it back over the try-line it&#039;s a turnover like it is now.

Any other ideas/suggestions? I&#039;d like the NRL to actually try and fix things people have a problem with! Rather than this other stuff no one have ever complained about!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that most of these things are gimmicks they are implementing to drum up some publicity for the match. If they were serious about rule changes they would trial them in more than one match. Also, I wanna know what would happen to the quick-tap if every penalty decision needs to be explained by the ref? They don&#8217;t have that problem in the NFL.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to hear Roarers opinions and ideas on the following: In several comments above a lot of people complained that there is too much kicking close to the try-line. I must say it&#8217;s something in rugby league I don&#8217;t like that much; it seems most of the time teams are in the opposition 20 m with one tackle left they either kick a bomb or a grubber and hope for the best. I&#8217;d like to see more running tries with players running into space or breaking tackles. I think they could try two things to fix this:</p>
<p>1) Bring back the mark within 20 m of your try-line. They do  this in rugby union to try and reduce kicking close to the try-line and it seems to work.<br />
2) Because bringing back the mark would probably just mean teams kick grubbers instead of bombs, what about if you field the ball behind your own try-line and place it down you get your full 6 tackles from the 20 m line? If you carry it back over the try-line it&#8217;s a turnover like it is now.</p>
<p>Any other ideas/suggestions? I&#8217;d like the NRL to actually try and fix things people have a problem with! Rather than this other stuff no one have ever complained about!</p>
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		<title>By: Dogs Of War</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-2/#comment-273587</link>
		<dc:creator>Dogs Of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NRL always has during the first 4 weeks or so of the comp, a break at the 20min/60min marks if the heat warrants it (Queensland teams usually). It&#039;s only for 1 minute, that all said, I think the game has to go to quarters just to allow decent advertising opportunities to be built in to the telecast. 2 minute break wouldn&#039;t be that bad would it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NRL always has during the first 4 weeks or so of the comp, a break at the 20min/60min marks if the heat warrants it (Queensland teams usually). It&#8217;s only for 1 minute, that all said, I think the game has to go to quarters just to allow decent advertising opportunities to be built in to the telecast. 2 minute break wouldn&#8217;t be that bad would it?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-2/#comment-273583</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll bet money the four quarters is so they can have an ad break for tv. That&#039;ll be their main motivation for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll bet money the four quarters is so they can have an ad break for tv. That&#8217;ll be their main motivation for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Master Blaster</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-273562</link>
		<dc:creator>Master Blaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You still had to touch the ball down on the ground to be awarded a try in rugby. 

As for soccer goals in rugby, that is the most ridiculous thing I&#039;ve ever heard.

Show us all some linked sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You still had to touch the ball down on the ground to be awarded a try in rugby. </p>
<p>As for soccer goals in rugby, that is the most ridiculous thing I&#8217;ve ever heard.</p>
<p>Show us all some linked sources.</p>
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		<title>By: netrug</title>
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		<dc:creator>netrug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Running in was removed from the game in the late 1800s. 

Therefore Master Blaster, I suggest you look at the history of Rugby scoring throughout the ages. American football continued with the running in but changed the reason.

Another one is the field goal. It is different from a drop goal. The field goal was if the ball was loose on the ground, then you scored if you kicked it over the cross bar. This was removed as a scoring option in 1904 but the drop goal remained</description>
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<p>Therefore Master Blaster, I suggest you look at the history of Rugby scoring throughout the ages. American football continued with the running in but changed the reason.</p>
<p>Another one is the field goal. It is different from a drop goal. The field goal was if the ball was loose on the ground, then you scored if you kicked it over the cross bar. This was removed as a scoring option in 1904 but the drop goal remained</p>
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		<title>By: Dogs Of War</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-273507</link>
		<dc:creator>Dogs Of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 04:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like any rules or addition to games, you modify the idea so it suits the sport.

It wasn&#039;t that long ago that many areas of the game where subject to video review, but the NRL had to stop that and make it only apply to tries. 

We can&#039;t go back to a game with a video review, and even the NFL knew that their game was better for it being in the game, though they had to remove it before the realisation came that sometimes you can only miss what you have had. People had forgotten how many stupid calls ref&#039;s can make without the aid of the video to assist them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like any rules or addition to games, you modify the idea so it suits the sport.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t that long ago that many areas of the game where subject to video review, but the NRL had to stop that and make it only apply to tries. </p>
<p>We can&#8217;t go back to a game with a video review, and even the NFL knew that their game was better for it being in the game, though they had to remove it before the realisation came that sometimes you can only miss what you have had. People had forgotten how many stupid calls ref&#8217;s can make without the aid of the video to assist them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mushi</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-273506</link>
		<dc:creator>Mushi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it was &quot;taken&quot; why is it so different?

Not disputing that&#039;s the case more a question</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it was &#8220;taken&#8221; why is it so different?</p>
<p>Not disputing that&#8217;s the case more a question</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-2/#comment-273452</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind the double try idea but what happens if the defending team concedes a penalisable offence i.e offside at the tap off, head high, gouging, Don McKinnon urination etc etc.
If I were the defending team I would be trying my darndest to strip the ball out therefore ending the attacking play.  If the attackers were to receive a penalty do they get to go for goal (even though they just spurned the opportunity after the first try) or do they just get another tap restart.  Could get ugly if the defending teams motivation is to stop the play repeatedly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind the double try idea but what happens if the defending team concedes a penalisable offence i.e offside at the tap off, head high, gouging, Don McKinnon urination etc etc.<br />
If I were the defending team I would be trying my darndest to strip the ball out therefore ending the attacking play.  If the attackers were to receive a penalty do they get to go for goal (even though they just spurned the opportunity after the first try) or do they just get another tap restart.  Could get ugly if the defending teams motivation is to stop the play repeatedly.</p>
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		<title>By: Dogs Of War</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-273446</link>
		<dc:creator>Dogs Of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it was taken from the NFL, but they got rid of the Video Ref for a brief period (5 years) due to some crap calls, then realised it was worse without video, but refined the rules so that it wasn&#039;t used as much (Coach&#039;s challenge).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it was taken from the NFL, but they got rid of the Video Ref for a brief period (5 years) due to some crap calls, then realised it was worse without video, but refined the rules so that it wasn&#8217;t used as much (Coach&#8217;s challenge).</p>
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		<title>By: Mushi</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-2/#comment-273444</link>
		<dc:creator>Mushi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless he was slapping the helmet - which is like putting your head inside a ringing curch bell</description>
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		<title>By: Mushi</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-273442</link>
		<dc:creator>Mushi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the video ref was in before the NFL, and even if not it is far more commonly used in the NRL with the NFL’s system more akin to tennis or cricket.

But it was funny to hear the red zone used for the first time in the NRL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the video ref was in before the NFL, and even if not it is far more commonly used in the NRL with the NFL’s system more akin to tennis or cricket.</p>
<p>But it was funny to hear the red zone used for the first time in the NRL</p>
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		<title>By: Crosscoder</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-2/#comment-273377</link>
		<dc:creator>Crosscoder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The less tries scored by kicks ,the better IMO.Give it a go in the All Stars match,and if it turns out to be a disater dice it.OIt is not rocket science.
They tried 2 refs in the under 20s ,and in the main it has turned out to be a winner(though not perfect).
I would still like to try an additional 2 tackle running option (ie 8 tackles)&gt;Kicking is permitted on any tackle up to 6,but if you choose the running option no kicking allowed on tackle 7 and 8.
It is still a basic 6 tackle game,but you have the OPTION for further 2 runs and thereby  additional attacking options.You reduce greatly the predictability ofthe  kick on the 6th tackle ,for the lottery try by bombing,and confuse to blazes the defence.
You know it makes sense..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The less tries scored by kicks ,the better IMO.Give it a go in the All Stars match,and if it turns out to be a disater dice it.OIt is not rocket science.<br />
They tried 2 refs in the under 20s ,and in the main it has turned out to be a winner(though not perfect).<br />
I would still like to try an additional 2 tackle running option (ie 8 tackles)&gt;Kicking is permitted on any tackle up to 6,but if you choose the running option no kicking allowed on tackle 7 and 8.<br />
It is still a basic 6 tackle game,but you have the OPTION for further 2 runs and thereby  additional attacking options.You reduce greatly the predictability ofthe  kick on the 6th tackle ,for the lottery try by bombing,and confuse to blazes the defence.<br />
You know it makes sense..</p>
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		<title>By: Springs</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-2/#comment-273314</link>
		<dc:creator>Springs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tries from kicks have already gone down in number since teams started using blocking tactics. Without kicking though the double try will have 13 on 13 and a fully set defensive line, I cannot see any set plays working as the scrambling defence will be able to contain any overlaps or 1 on 1s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tries from kicks have already gone down in number since teams started using blocking tactics. Without kicking though the double try will have 13 on 13 and a fully set defensive line, I cannot see any set plays working as the scrambling defence will be able to contain any overlaps or 1 on 1s</p>
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		<title>By: M1tch</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-2/#comment-273291</link>
		<dc:creator>M1tch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No kicking allows more passing and set plays, fans get annoyed at amount of tries scored from kicks..ask Roosters fans</description>
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		<title>By: Springs</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/28/a-double-try-or-just-double-trouble/comment-page-2/#comment-273282</link>
		<dc:creator>Springs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No point in the double try whatsoever. If a team is 8 points ahead and has held the other team out for 79 minutes then they deserve to win the game. That is of course unless the team has used the double try to get in front in the first place. The scoring system we have right now is perfect as it is. Four points for a try in any circumstance, if the attacking team scores a length of the field try then a reward for them, if they score from dummy half it penalises the soft defence. Tries from kicks are usually scored in the corner. The 4 points is a reward for the attacking team being in a position to attack, and the conversion attempt is from the sideline.

No need for the double try, I would hate to see a try from dummy half and the succesful &#039;conversion&#039; attempt end up destroying a 6 or 7 point advantage. Makes the field goal useless. Anyway without kicking I see about a 5% success rate for double try conversions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No point in the double try whatsoever. If a team is 8 points ahead and has held the other team out for 79 minutes then they deserve to win the game. That is of course unless the team has used the double try to get in front in the first place. The scoring system we have right now is perfect as it is. Four points for a try in any circumstance, if the attacking team scores a length of the field try then a reward for them, if they score from dummy half it penalises the soft defence. Tries from kicks are usually scored in the corner. The 4 points is a reward for the attacking team being in a position to attack, and the conversion attempt is from the sideline.</p>
<p>No need for the double try, I would hate to see a try from dummy half and the succesful &#8216;conversion&#8217; attempt end up destroying a 6 or 7 point advantage. Makes the field goal useless. Anyway without kicking I see about a 5% success rate for double try conversions.</p>
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