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		<title>By: Sam el Perro</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/29/anyone-for-an-aussie-summer-of-sevens/comment-page-1/#comment-283016</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam el Perro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that link to a QRU press release about the sevens tournament that clearly became vastly more international in scope in the space of 12 months. Or not, as they case may be when you actually read the content that you linked to. Furthermore, was this &quot;very popular&quot; event held at Robina? Carrara? 

No.

At the Gold Coast Breakers home ground. So &quot;very popular&quot; that it isn&#039;t even held at a sports stadium. While you&#039;re going out on a limb here, Siva, do you want to tell us how many hundred people were at the GC7s? Here&#039;s a link to info about the _park_ that hosts this very popular event: http://www.gcparks.com.au/park-details.aspx?park=1235

And here&#039;s some YouTube footage of this very popular event: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZiGqDyyRYo

I don&#039;t mind promoting rugby, but dressing this up as some kind of meaningful international tournament is patently false.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that link to a QRU press release about the sevens tournament that clearly became vastly more international in scope in the space of 12 months. Or not, as they case may be when you actually read the content that you linked to. Furthermore, was this &#8220;very popular&#8221; event held at Robina? Carrara? </p>
<p>No.</p>
<p>At the Gold Coast Breakers home ground. So &#8220;very popular&#8221; that it isn&#8217;t even held at a sports stadium. While you&#8217;re going out on a limb here, Siva, do you want to tell us how many hundred people were at the GC7s? Here&#8217;s a link to info about the _park_ that hosts this very popular event: <a href="http://www.gcparks.com.au/park-details.aspx?park=1235" rel="nofollow">http://www.gcparks.com.au/park-details.aspx?park=1235</a></p>
<p>And here&#8217;s some YouTube footage of this very popular event: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZiGqDyyRYo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZiGqDyyRYo</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind promoting rugby, but dressing this up as some kind of meaningful international tournament is patently false.</p>
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		<title>By: Siva Samoa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siva Samoa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was talking about the 2009 gold coast sevens held at the gold coast breakers rugby grounds. the ground was full and couldn&#039;t handel the large crowds there on both days.
http://www.qru.com.au/library/news/2009/091103_gold_coast_7s_update,70291.html/section/62425</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was talking about the 2009 gold coast sevens held at the gold coast breakers rugby grounds. the ground was full and couldn&#8217;t handel the large crowds there on both days.<br />
<a href="http://www.qru.com.au/library/news/2009/091103_gold_coast_7s_update,70291.html/section/62425" rel="nofollow">http://www.qru.com.au/library/news/2009/091103_gold_coast_7s_update,70291.html/section/62425</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sam el Perro</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/29/anyone-for-an-aussie-summer-of-sevens/comment-page-1/#comment-282812</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam el Perro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Define &quot;very popular&quot; in the context of the Gold Coast 7s. The photo gallery on the official website doesn&#039;t seem to indicate many people watching whatsoever.

http://gc7s.com/photo-gallery-2008/

As for places in the Cup, there is a real indication of the international flavour:

1st: Brisbane Fiji
2nd: Helensvale Hoggs
3rd: Nerang Bulls</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Define &#8220;very popular&#8221; in the context of the Gold Coast 7s. The photo gallery on the official website doesn&#8217;t seem to indicate many people watching whatsoever.</p>
<p><a href="http://gc7s.com/photo-gallery-2008/" rel="nofollow">http://gc7s.com/photo-gallery-2008/</a></p>
<p>As for places in the Cup, there is a real indication of the international flavour:</p>
<p>1st: Brisbane Fiji<br />
2nd: Helensvale Hoggs<br />
3rd: Nerang Bulls</p>
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		<title>By: Sam el Perro</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/29/anyone-for-an-aussie-summer-of-sevens/comment-page-2/#comment-282135</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam el Perro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is getting more NRL players playing rugby really the answer? The ARU has spent a fair amount of the last decade pursuing this policy, and look where it got us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is getting more NRL players playing rugby really the answer? The ARU has spent a fair amount of the last decade pursuing this policy, and look where it got us.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam el Perro</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/29/anyone-for-an-aussie-summer-of-sevens/comment-page-1/#comment-282134</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam el Perro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is going to televise this? Will this be extra money outside the SANZAR agreement? Will it, thus, be sufficient money to pay for a 16 team comp being held in different cities on different weekends?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is going to televise this? Will this be extra money outside the SANZAR agreement? Will it, thus, be sufficient money to pay for a 16 team comp being held in different cities on different weekends?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam el Perro</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/29/anyone-for-an-aussie-summer-of-sevens/comment-page-1/#comment-282132</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam el Perro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How will a 14 minute curtain raiser involving B-grade players get more people through the gate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How will a 14 minute curtain raiser involving B-grade players get more people through the gate?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam el Perro</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/29/anyone-for-an-aussie-summer-of-sevens/comment-page-1/#comment-282131</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam el Perro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that 14 minutes doesn&#039;t make for much of a curtain raiser. Furthermore, the expense involved in flying that many extra players around for such a short period of time might ensure that there isn&#039;t a sufficient return on investment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that 14 minutes doesn&#8217;t make for much of a curtain raiser. Furthermore, the expense involved in flying that many extra players around for such a short period of time might ensure that there isn&#8217;t a sufficient return on investment.</p>
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		<title>By: rugbyfuture</title>
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		<dc:creator>rugbyfuture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>australian money means nothing to the euro clubs, league blokes....maybe :-P

the only way that creating a club would work would be for the australian domestic competition to be formed and take hold, with the NPC, Currie Cup, Argentine zona campeteona, pacific rugby cup and it going into H cup style comp as others have said before, the Super 15 is a provincial competition whether we like it or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>australian money means nothing to the euro clubs, league blokes&#8230;.maybe <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>the only way that creating a club would work would be for the australian domestic competition to be formed and take hold, with the NPC, Currie Cup, Argentine zona campeteona, pacific rugby cup and it going into H cup style comp as others have said before, the Super 15 is a provincial competition whether we like it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Foxy Loxy</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/29/anyone-for-an-aussie-summer-of-sevens/comment-page-2/#comment-282118</link>
		<dc:creator>Foxy Loxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The league blokes and Euro clubs would love it if there is a decent $ reward. Plus imagine the grandstanding from either code if  they beat the other.

i agree though with you re the Super 15 teams. As I posted in the Waratahs thread, I really think the ARU should push for the Reds and Waratahs to be replaced by new Sydney and Brisbane one city clubs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The league blokes and Euro clubs would love it if there is a decent $ reward. Plus imagine the grandstanding from either code if  they beat the other.</p>
<p>i agree though with you re the Super 15 teams. As I posted in the Waratahs thread, I really think the ARU should push for the Reds and Waratahs to be replaced by new Sydney and Brisbane one city clubs.</p>
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		<title>By: rugbyfuture</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/12/29/anyone-for-an-aussie-summer-of-sevens/comment-page-2/#comment-282115</link>
		<dc:creator>rugbyfuture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to go by the 7&#039;s tournament format it would have to be 48 clubs and go for 4 days probably, the problem with including the super 15 teams is the fact that they&#039;re supposed to represent a state and so would not be good playing a proper club. the euro teams would never come down, they wouldn&#039;t want to help southern hemisphere rugby, i like the idea of including some NRL clubs but old rugby and old league would both object, imagine phil &quot;the extraordinary poet gus&quot; gould&#039;s write up of that! the IRFL and IRB simply wouldn&#039;t allow it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to go by the 7&#8242;s tournament format it would have to be 48 clubs and go for 4 days probably, the problem with including the super 15 teams is the fact that they&#8217;re supposed to represent a state and so would not be good playing a proper club. the euro teams would never come down, they wouldn&#8217;t want to help southern hemisphere rugby, i like the idea of including some NRL clubs but old rugby and old league would both object, imagine phil &#8220;the extraordinary poet gus&#8221; gould&#8217;s write up of that! the IRFL and IRB simply wouldn&#8217;t allow it.</p>
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		<title>By: Foxy Loxy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foxy Loxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with 7s is there is no emotional buy-in for the fans and the players. You win or lose, so what. It doesn&#039;t mean anything. It can&#039;t only have a chance of success as a one off tournament over one weekend. Maybe if you had a summer 7s involving every NRL club (16) and every Super Rugby 15 club. 

I&#039;d like to see a 7s of club rugby festival at ANZ Stadium. But by rugby I mean both codes. Get 40 club teams. Get games like  St George against Stade Francais, or Waratahs vs Wigan, or Rebels vs Storm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with 7s is there is no emotional buy-in for the fans and the players. You win or lose, so what. It doesn&#8217;t mean anything. It can&#8217;t only have a chance of success as a one off tournament over one weekend. Maybe if you had a summer 7s involving every NRL club (16) and every Super Rugby 15 club. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see a 7s of club rugby festival at ANZ Stadium. But by rugby I mean both codes. Get 40 club teams. Get games like  St George against Stade Francais, or Waratahs vs Wigan, or Rebels vs Storm.</p>
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		<title>By: rugbyfuture</title>
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		<dc:creator>rugbyfuture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just a few days old but heres a full (slightly different) proposal

8 states and territories, 8 weekends, 18 teams.

each state is given a weekend, these unions then allocate which stadium (area or city) hosts that states sevens weekend for that year with high emphasis on development areas. rather than look at current clubs, form the super clubs which might eventually become part of the domestic competition. full advertising, marketing and coverage dedicated to the weekends. formulated on the world sevens series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just a few days old but heres a full (slightly different) proposal</p>
<p>8 states and territories, 8 weekends, 18 teams.</p>
<p>each state is given a weekend, these unions then allocate which stadium (area or city) hosts that states sevens weekend for that year with high emphasis on development areas. rather than look at current clubs, form the super clubs which might eventually become part of the domestic competition. full advertising, marketing and coverage dedicated to the weekends. formulated on the world sevens series.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been looking for a Sevens comp up in Brisbane, I am a league player, but have played some union but prefer the running in the sevens. It would be a great advertisement for the sport. Also, a contact sport in the summer would make it out on its own- no competition. And Sevens teams would be chosen on ability not code wars (i.e. League v Union).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been looking for a Sevens comp up in Brisbane, I am a league player, but have played some union but prefer the running in the sevens. It would be a great advertisement for the sport. Also, a contact sport in the summer would make it out on its own- no competition. And Sevens teams would be chosen on ability not code wars (i.e. League v Union).</p>
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		<title>By: Siva Samoa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siva Samoa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Gold Coast 7&#039;s is also getting very popular with many international teams taking part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gold Coast 7&#8242;s is also getting very popular with many international teams taking part.</p>
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		<title>By: netrug</title>
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		<dc:creator>netrug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>International sevens were tried in Sydney in 1988 and 1989 during the summer. Although  the 1988 was successful, interest dropped off in 1989 and was abandoned. Another reason was the crashing of the NSWRU. Maybe now is the time to renew the tournament. An international and a club series were held together.

On 3/4 January, at Punta del Este in Uruguay, an international and club sevens will be held. Then in 5 January at Mar del Plata in Argentina, the South American Sevens will be staged. Once again there will be two series, an international and local tournaments.

Austalia should not be left behind in the growing worldwide interest in Rugby Sevens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>International sevens were tried in Sydney in 1988 and 1989 during the summer. Although  the 1988 was successful, interest dropped off in 1989 and was abandoned. Another reason was the crashing of the NSWRU. Maybe now is the time to renew the tournament. An international and a club series were held together.</p>
<p>On 3/4 January, at Punta del Este in Uruguay, an international and club sevens will be held. Then in 5 January at Mar del Plata in Argentina, the South American Sevens will be staged. Once again there will be two series, an international and local tournaments.</p>
<p>Austalia should not be left behind in the growing worldwide interest in Rugby Sevens.</p>
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		<title>By: damo</title>
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		<dc:creator>damo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea! Could give  rugby 13 experienced players (aka &#039;NRL players&quot;)  a chance to try the game in the off-season against some quality opposition. As well as off contract club rugby players looking for a chance to strut their stuff in front of Robbie&#039;s army of volunteer selectors - us.
We need more rugby. We certainly need more rugby news.There was a sevens comp on fox a couple of weeks ago it was great to watch. It would be at least as interesting as English club soccer, golf or AFL off-field politics which occupy our screens at present.
I&#039;ve said it before. Why don&#039;t we have a game called rugby 5&#039;s. based around scrums, rucks and mauls. I don&#039;t know about being a spectator event but it would certainly build skills for tight forwards (whom I am told by my many ex-forward friends) are the ones who win games, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea! Could give  rugby 13 experienced players (aka &#8216;NRL players&#8221;)  a chance to try the game in the off-season against some quality opposition. As well as off contract club rugby players looking for a chance to strut their stuff in front of Robbie&#8217;s army of volunteer selectors &#8211; us.<br />
We need more rugby. We certainly need more rugby news.There was a sevens comp on fox a couple of weeks ago it was great to watch. It would be at least as interesting as English club soccer, golf or AFL off-field politics which occupy our screens at present.<br />
I&#8217;ve said it before. Why don&#8217;t we have a game called rugby 5&#8242;s. based around scrums, rucks and mauls. I don&#8217;t know about being a spectator event but it would certainly build skills for tight forwards (whom I am told by my many ex-forward friends) are the ones who win games, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Gatesy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gatesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great idea. The available player pool is almost limitless. You could do it in pools or tiers, with some form of promotion/ relegation system. There could be eased restrictions on player transfers, and you would certainly encourage some of the former players to have a go, though 7&#039;s in the heat of summer is most likely a young buck&#039;s pursuit.

You could definitely run carnivals, festivals etc around them - even Beach 7&#039;s tournaments etc. Imagine the Bondi Beach 7&#039;s!!

Very TV friendly if you ask me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great idea. The available player pool is almost limitless. You could do it in pools or tiers, with some form of promotion/ relegation system. There could be eased restrictions on player transfers, and you would certainly encourage some of the former players to have a go, though 7&#8242;s in the heat of summer is most likely a young buck&#8217;s pursuit.</p>
<p>You could definitely run carnivals, festivals etc around them &#8211; even Beach 7&#8242;s tournaments etc. Imagine the Bondi Beach 7&#8242;s!!</p>
<p>Very TV friendly if you ask me.</p>
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		<title>By: Bay35Pablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bay35Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 05:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see such a series involving many of the existing Super players. It would interfere with their post and pre season too much, and risk burn out. Of course if you had a player coming back from injury it might be good.

The idea was an additional level below Super 15, to get some exposure for club rugby, and their players. The reason for having the club teams in each city play is it reduces local travel costs to nil, and even for country sides it is easier.

E.g. Sydney Sevens.
12 Shute Shield teams
5 Suburban Rugby Club Division Champions (from 2009 would be Kings Old Boys, Lindfield, Hunters Hill, Rouse Hill, Manly Savers) or 5 First Grade Champions (from 2009 would be KOBs, Barker Old Boys, Merrylands, Rouse Hill &amp; Manly Savers).
10 Country Zone 1st Grade Premiers - Avoca Beach, Pirates, Narromine, Lennox Heads, Tech Waratahs, Coffs Breakers, Old Bar Beach, St Alberts College, Wanderers (Newcastle), Coonamble
5 invitational teams - e.g. invite club champions from Fiji, Tonga &amp; Samoa, an all star style team, and another
This would give 32 teams, for 8 x 4 team pools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see such a series involving many of the existing Super players. It would interfere with their post and pre season too much, and risk burn out. Of course if you had a player coming back from injury it might be good.</p>
<p>The idea was an additional level below Super 15, to get some exposure for club rugby, and their players. The reason for having the club teams in each city play is it reduces local travel costs to nil, and even for country sides it is easier.</p>
<p>E.g. Sydney Sevens.<br />
12 Shute Shield teams<br />
5 Suburban Rugby Club Division Champions (from 2009 would be Kings Old Boys, Lindfield, Hunters Hill, Rouse Hill, Manly Savers) or 5 First Grade Champions (from 2009 would be KOBs, Barker Old Boys, Merrylands, Rouse Hill &amp; Manly Savers).<br />
10 Country Zone 1st Grade Premiers &#8211; Avoca Beach, Pirates, Narromine, Lennox Heads, Tech Waratahs, Coffs Breakers, Old Bar Beach, St Alberts College, Wanderers (Newcastle), Coonamble<br />
5 invitational teams &#8211; e.g. invite club champions from Fiji, Tonga &amp; Samoa, an all star style team, and another<br />
This would give 32 teams, for 8 x 4 team pools.</p>
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		<title>By: E</title>
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		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 04:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES PLEASE!</description>
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		<title>By: Yikes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yikes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice idea Pablo, I like it.

Already the big 7s tournaments exist to give teams a test out before the season - the Hottest 7s in Darwin in Feb is very popular (and with $65,000 prizemoney why wouldn&#039;t it be?), and there&#039;s the Ella 7s in Coffs Harbour in early March.

But no reason why these couldn&#039;t be extended into part of a larger tournament.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice idea Pablo, I like it.</p>
<p>Already the big 7s tournaments exist to give teams a test out before the season &#8211; the Hottest 7s in Darwin in Feb is very popular (and with $65,000 prizemoney why wouldn&#8217;t it be?), and there&#8217;s the Ella 7s in Coffs Harbour in early March.</p>
<p>But no reason why these couldn&#8217;t be extended into part of a larger tournament.</p>
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		<title>By: Who Needs Melon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Who Needs Melon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this idea too. 

Sorry to raise an idea that I&#039;ve raised before but, with regards to funding a comp such as this, rather than pay each player/team/whatever a flat amount, it&#039;s got to be incentive-based. Like a lottery, people will pay for the chance to earn something big. Whilst I&#039;m not suggesting (outright) that each team should have to pay to enter and get nothing unless they win the whole thing, I am suggesting that if you play your cards right, this comp wouldn&#039;t actually cost anyone an absolute fortune.

Getting a few well-known ex-players got involved at the start would obviously also be an enormous benefit - people would pay to play with or against them and for the chance simply to watch some old idols.

I think it would be a great recipe for fairytale stories - e.g. a bunch of young kids from the bush going all the way versus some semi-pros. Or some once-semi-famous old-timers giving it one last shot.

I also think it would be a great way to discover new talent and encourage those on the fringes to stick with it and have a go.

I hope I haven&#039;t misinterpreted your message Bay35 and thanks for trying to keep the glimmer of rugby alive through the off season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this idea too. </p>
<p>Sorry to raise an idea that I&#8217;ve raised before but, with regards to funding a comp such as this, rather than pay each player/team/whatever a flat amount, it&#8217;s got to be incentive-based. Like a lottery, people will pay for the chance to earn something big. Whilst I&#8217;m not suggesting (outright) that each team should have to pay to enter and get nothing unless they win the whole thing, I am suggesting that if you play your cards right, this comp wouldn&#8217;t actually cost anyone an absolute fortune.</p>
<p>Getting a few well-known ex-players got involved at the start would obviously also be an enormous benefit &#8211; people would pay to play with or against them and for the chance simply to watch some old idols.</p>
<p>I think it would be a great recipe for fairytale stories &#8211; e.g. a bunch of young kids from the bush going all the way versus some semi-pros. Or some once-semi-famous old-timers giving it one last shot.</p>
<p>I also think it would be a great way to discover new talent and encourage those on the fringes to stick with it and have a go.</p>
<p>I hope I haven&#8217;t misinterpreted your message Bay35 and thanks for trying to keep the glimmer of rugby alive through the off season.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about a Sevens Series where each weekend in the 5 weeks up to the season starting that they have a 2 day televised 16 team comp in Brisbane, Sydney, Canberra, Melb and Perth (apologies to Darwin, and Adelaide have World Sevens anyway)? Structure/ Points system would be same as World Sevens comp. I am sure they could have 15-a-side trials at night mid week anyway.

Each of S15 teams could send team and could invite strong Aussie club teams (esp locals to bring bigger crowds) and we could get a look at some new teams/players. Kiwis and pacific island teams regularly tour for sevens so they would come if prizemoney was good. So that would leave 5 x S15 teams (imagine the pool of death with only 4 pools), 5 x local teams and 6 x S15 kiwi and national pac island teams.

Given the games are short, heat wouldn&#039;t be too much of a problem. The real big boys from the tight fives wouldnt be picked anyway. I assume due to workload that some of best players wouldnt be playing, but I am certain RUPA wouldn&#039;t allow the extra work anyway with threats of injury and burnout. Oh well, we can only dream. Only option RUPA may accept would be for S15 teams to be mostly academy/club based (next best players could be on short terms sevens contract), and perhaps that S15 players could play a max of say 2 of the 5 weekends so spread the load.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about a Sevens Series where each weekend in the 5 weeks up to the season starting that they have a 2 day televised 16 team comp in Brisbane, Sydney, Canberra, Melb and Perth (apologies to Darwin, and Adelaide have World Sevens anyway)? Structure/ Points system would be same as World Sevens comp. I am sure they could have 15-a-side trials at night mid week anyway.</p>
<p>Each of S15 teams could send team and could invite strong Aussie club teams (esp locals to bring bigger crowds) and we could get a look at some new teams/players. Kiwis and pacific island teams regularly tour for sevens so they would come if prizemoney was good. So that would leave 5 x S15 teams (imagine the pool of death with only 4 pools), 5 x local teams and 6 x S15 kiwi and national pac island teams.</p>
<p>Given the games are short, heat wouldn&#8217;t be too much of a problem. The real big boys from the tight fives wouldnt be picked anyway. I assume due to workload that some of best players wouldnt be playing, but I am certain RUPA wouldn&#8217;t allow the extra work anyway with threats of injury and burnout. Oh well, we can only dream. Only option RUPA may accept would be for S15 teams to be mostly academy/club based (next best players could be on short terms sevens contract), and perhaps that S15 players could play a max of say 2 of the 5 weekends so spread the load.</p>
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		<title>By: rugbyfuture</title>
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		<dc:creator>rugbyfuture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>attract more players and people to rugby via sevens, and sevens is only a weekend or two anyways,the players could afford to add an extra weekend to their roster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>attract more players and people to rugby via sevens, and sevens is only a weekend or two anyways,the players could afford to add an extra weekend to their roster.</p>
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		<title>By: James D</title>
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		<dc:creator>James D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree it will hinder the atmosphere that exists for International events i still think it would involve a tribalism (ACT vs NSW or NSW vs QLD) that would add to the atmosphere and make it unique. Also you think it wight bring a few thousand more through the gate as people will see themselves get more bang for their dollar.  What do you mean hinder the reason for the comp? What is the reason? To play more sevens and give more players a go? There would still be international events? - I just think it is a big ask to have players play Super rugby and Club rugby(or internationals) and sevens all in a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree it will hinder the atmosphere that exists for International events i still think it would involve a tribalism (ACT vs NSW or NSW vs QLD) that would add to the atmosphere and make it unique. Also you think it wight bring a few thousand more through the gate as people will see themselves get more bang for their dollar.  What do you mean hinder the reason for the comp? What is the reason? To play more sevens and give more players a go? There would still be international events? &#8211; I just think it is a big ask to have players play Super rugby and Club rugby(or internationals) and sevens all in a year.</p>
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		<title>By: spiro</title>
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		<dc:creator>spiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great idea, or perhaps better there is a great idea lurking in here. SevensRugby should become rugby equivalent of T20 cricket. Let&#039;s hope the ARU can grab this idea and run with it like a Sevens player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great idea, or perhaps better there is a great idea lurking in here. SevensRugby should become rugby equivalent of T20 cricket. Let&#8217;s hope the ARU can grab this idea and run with it like a Sevens player.</p>
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		<title>By: rugbyfuture</title>
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		<dc:creator>rugbyfuture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>making it a secondary event would hinder the reason for the comp and make it unable to be played in the festival atmosphere sevens is renowned for</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>making it a secondary event would hinder the reason for the comp and make it unable to be played in the festival atmosphere sevens is renowned for</p>
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		<title>By: James D</title>
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		<dc:creator>James D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they dont want to play in the Summer you could always have it as a curtain raiser for the S14/15 - I mean have the Waratahs Sevens team play the opener for the waratahs games against whomever the tahs are playing? (Eg Chiefs sevens team vs tahs sevens team before the chiefs v the tahs in the super 14/15)  It would take care of logistics as you would only need to book an extra few rooms and an extra few seats. It could be a way to have the players warm up before a game or play previously injured players back into form. Also you could have them train with the main squad? Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they dont want to play in the Summer you could always have it as a curtain raiser for the S14/15 &#8211; I mean have the Waratahs Sevens team play the opener for the waratahs games against whomever the tahs are playing? (Eg Chiefs sevens team vs tahs sevens team before the chiefs v the tahs in the super 14/15)  It would take care of logistics as you would only need to book an extra few rooms and an extra few seats. It could be a way to have the players warm up before a game or play previously injured players back into form. Also you could have them train with the main squad? Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great concept. Why not play it at dusk/evening like 20/20 cricket.</description>
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		<title>By: Bazza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bazza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant ! - why not set up a 6-8 tournament competition and invite anyone and everyone to come - union or league - from oz, nz, south africa, pacific wherever.  16-24 teams per tournament - use good stadiums, get free to air TV involved and market it really well - may the best teams win !  Done properly, it&#039;d be fantastic !  Its only got cricket (just avoid head to head competition in the cities Australia is playing), tennis (avoid the Australian Open) and soccer (no-one cares anyway) to beat.  Outstanding !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant ! &#8211; why not set up a 6-8 tournament competition and invite anyone and everyone to come &#8211; union or league &#8211; from oz, nz, south africa, pacific wherever.  16-24 teams per tournament &#8211; use good stadiums, get free to air TV involved and market it really well &#8211; may the best teams win !  Done properly, it&#8217;d be fantastic !  Its only got cricket (just avoid head to head competition in the cities Australia is playing), tennis (avoid the Australian Open) and soccer (no-one cares anyway) to beat.  Outstanding !</p>
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		<title>By: Cheezel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheezel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Idea! Only if the top players were availale would it be a success. The problem is rugby players need an off-season. Rugby just needs the ARU to feed more news to the media like the other codes do. Then you would see a little more rugby in the papers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Idea! Only if the top players were availale would it be a success. The problem is rugby players need an off-season. Rugby just needs the ARU to feed more news to the media like the other codes do. Then you would see a little more rugby in the papers.</p>
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