Ange Postecoglu’s guide to winning friends
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By Junior, 5 Jan 2010 Junior is a Roar Pro
Melbourne Victory's Tomislav Pondeljak tackles Brisbane Roar's Charlie Miller, during round 2 of the A-League Season, played at the Ethihad stadium in Melbourne, Saturday, August 15, 2009. After full time, Victory drew with Brisbane Roar 3-3. AAP Image/Joe Castro
A few quiet cans one night followed by a few poor decisions and Frank Farina’s goose was cooked. Enter the man. Enter Ange Postecoglu.
Straight from the world of football punditry, Postecoglu accepted the offer to manage Brisbane Roar and got down to business.
Farina was a good man manager, but his loose handle on football tactics was always going to be his Achilles’ heel. Was Roar management looking for a scapegoat with the drink driving charge?
You betcha!
Like any manager, Postecoglu’s tactical nous will be judged in years to come by results on the pitch. His man-management skills, however, are already up for debate.
Three players in ten weeks have left the club.
Postecoglu recently said: “That’s the area we’re probably working hardest in … recruiting.” In the land of the salary cap, you have to decruit to recruit.
If you believe team management, the discipline broom is sweeping through the club. A more cynical observer would suggest that Postecoglu is shooting on sight.
We can only speculate what goes on behind closed doors, but Craig Moore and Charlie Miller are wily pros that have seen several managers at several clubs come and go. They know how crucial discipline is to a team’s success.
Something else is surely going on. Something peculiar. Two is a pattern, remember.
What about Liam Reddy?
He’s reportedly off to Sydney FC next season. With only nine regular season games left this season, many would have stuck around.
A desire for regular football may have dictated his early on-loan move to the Phoenix last month. The sudden exit of the other two suggests that wasn’t the sole reason.
Three is a trend.
With only three remaining players at the club over 30, the Roar are now left with a squad littered with rookies. A blend of youth and more youth, you might say.
From all reports, the club’s juniors are the best in the land and getting better.
Maybe we are looking at the next Busby’s Babes, Arsene’s Army of Kids or even the Baby Broncos? Sure, why not. Stay tuned, Middle East peace will be resolved next week too.
Posto’s Pups have it all before them.
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The Bear said | January 5th 2010 @ 7:27am | Report comment
Tiatto is still happy enough to come off the bench, so I very much doubt it’s a conspiracy against Franky’s old mates club. Likely the other three are looking long term and getting their careers on track…after what could be seen as a park football experience with the three departees playing below their potential for the sake of match day beers with Uncle Frank. Serota, Oar, Zullo et al were all Franky selections and they are putting their heads down getting on with things…at the Roar. Loyalty to your club and your own future ostensibly comes before signing for someone else amid ultimatums and political fallout.
Davstar said | January 5th 2010 @ 8:10am | Report comment
All three players were no good moor is a baby for saying sack the coach or ill leave. no player is bigger then the club
Realfootball said | January 5th 2010 @ 8:23am | Report comment
This business has been absurdly overhyped. Miller is no loss. For all those who eulogise his “vision”, all the vision in the world is of limited use if a a player can only run 10 minutes out of 90. All of Miller’s limitations – lack of fitness and lack of pace – were shown up against the Roar in the NYER game. Miller would be on the bench if he was still at the Roar, not starting, the key point was that he was playing hard ball for a long term deal. At 33, with his fitness, did he warrant one? Absolutely not, so he walked. The Roar were gracious enough to let him go.
As for Moore, his “him or me” stunt was both unprofessional and unacceptable to any club. So what did we have in Moore and Miller – two aging players at the ends of their careers walking away from contracts after unacceptable demands were made of their club.
As for Liam Reddy, he is notoriously error prone, a good shot stopper who chronically lacks judgement under the high ball or with the through ball played towards the penalty area. I personally have sat at Suncorp many times and watched the Roar lose games because of yet another Reddy error. In fact, last season his goalkeeping cost the Roar first past the post. I was astonished to hear he was moving to Sydney FC. Necevski is a much better keeper. Reddy also had a serious attitude problem that was clearly evident during games.
Whatever had been happening at the Roar under Farina, it wasn’t working, and none of these three players are a long term loss. Given Moore’s form this season, I think the short term loss is mainly in PR.
Ange P has 100% support from me and a lot of other Roar supporters. The team and the club needed a new direction, Miller and Reddy were dead wood, and Moore had himself way, way out of perspective.
AndyRoo said | January 5th 2010 @ 9:28am | Report comment
I agree 100%.
Obviously Moore deserves respect for what he has achieved but their is no way Roar will be a force if they carry a bunch of mates that only want to train a couple of times a week, with the exception being when Celtic come to town. That’s a bad environment to try and develop good young pros and your older blokes need to set a good example. let some other team put up with that in exchange for short term success.
Millers first season was a good one but he contribued very little this year (under Frank or Ange) and it is only going to get worse.
Australian Football said | January 5th 2010 @ 9:35am | Report comment
GCU, will whip these guys into shape, Miller, Moore, and Minni…. there will be no slacking off at Skilled Park..
Art Sapphire said | January 5th 2010 @ 10:20am | Report comment
Note to the writer – I don’t think Frank had a few quite cans. In order to blow twice over the legal limit at seven in the morning means that he must have has a few quiet bottles of wines the night before. If I was a Roar fan I would be relieved to see that there has been a clean out at the club. The clubs was beginning to look like a retirement home for Moore’s mates.
It is no coincidence that Moore, Miller and Malcolm all have the same agent. That’s what you call searching far and wide to find the best available talent, not.
Note to the editors – It’s Postecoglou. Sure the writer of this piece may have mispelt his name and its an understandable mistake, but it should have been corrected before it got published in cyberspace.
Realfootball said | January 5th 2010 @ 11:49am | Report comment
Hey Art, that’s very funny that those 3 aging rogues all have the same agent. I didn’t know that. Makes it look all the more like an Old Boys club, with Farina as one of the members. Recruiting Malcom defied belief when I read about it, but now I understand. The fact that Farina actually played him in the team, however, is beyond humour. Something was rotten in the state of Denmark, methinks.
AndyRoo said | January 5th 2010 @ 12:01pm | Report comment
I think Mitch Nichols got in trouble for the U 20′s because of a bad attitude. Kruse also had some drama so I don’t think the youngsters were learning the right things from the older pros.
And surely someone like Sergio is a better example than Miller, Moore and Malcolm who have all had off field dramas in their career and “falling outs”.
perryhaddock said | January 6th 2010 @ 12:45pm | Report comment
excuse me andyroo but thats drawing a long bow to blame the bad attitudes of two young players on miller, moore and malcolm… further what were the actual dramas/falling outs that these three had during their careers… as far as moore is concerned i can’t think of any but maybe i’m wrong… and the other two? the amount of hot air that gets let out on this forum is disgraceful… nobody seems to back up what they say with anything other than hearsay…
AndyRoo said | January 6th 2010 @ 1:26pm | Report comment
I don’t blame them for other individuals behavior but this article was talking about losing experienced players being bad for their development. I think that’s bunkem if the older pros don’t have the same fire they used to have.
For Miller and Malcolm the articles about them when they joined Brisbane talked off their troubled history. None of it bother me personally but they don’t appear to be model pros.
Miller
Dick Advocaat insisted that he had no regrets about letting the midfielder leave Ibrox,
“Unfortunately for him he didn’t make it at Rangers, but he had the quality. Probably now he realises that he has to become a real professional. He definitely had to leave Rangers to find this form”
From wikepedia
A lifestyle of parties and an unhealthy diet followed, and Miller’s career appeared to be on the downhill
Malcolm
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25558803-5000940,00.html
Moore
Was suspended form the Socceroos for participating in a booze up at the races and left his German club on bad terms http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_kmafp/is_200505/ai_n14751734/
perryhaddock said | January 7th 2010 @ 7:00am | Report comment
so one indiscretion in a career means you’re a bad example…
left his german club on bad terms? really, thats pathetic…
we all know advocaats form so i take that vague quote from him with a grain of salt…
i left the toukley hawks in the under 13s on bad terms as well and have beein poisoning society ever since i guess…
AndyRoo said | January 7th 2010 @ 8:28am | Report comment
I am not trying to paint Moore out as some baby killer, just he isn’t a shining light of professionalism that which apart from performance is something you want from your teams leadership. All the roar are losing from Moore quitting because he didn’t like the coach is a good A league central defender not “wily pros. They know how crucial discipline is to a team’s success”
left his german club on bad terms? really, thats pathetic…
Mentioning he was sacked because you showed up to training drunk is pathetic, I think it’s relevant considering what other fans are sayign about him and it wasn’t when he was in the under 13′s either.
perryhaddock said | January 7th 2010 @ 9:16am | Report comment
if you followed that story at the time the drunk at training story was denied and discredited… so to bring it up to support a mob argument is indeed pathetic…
AndyRoo said | March 31st 2010 @ 11:21am | Report comment
I remembered this thread
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/983412/Verbeek-headache-as-Moore-is-%27sacked%27
The Bear said | January 6th 2010 @ 1:14pm | Report comment
Perry, gambling, blowing off a Socceroo game for racing day. Long bow? Craig Moore is a great bloke and a great player, let’s call a spade a spade and give him a break, he’s human. BUT he is selling himself short professionally, and the Roar have called him out. It’s now up to him to lift his “game”. Gl to him…and the Roar.
perryhaddock said | January 7th 2010 @ 10:25am | Report comment
gambling?