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		<title>By: Ben of Phnom Penh</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/01/05/long-may-our-links-with-japanese-football-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-277658</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben of Phnom Penh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spiranovic is off to Uruwa Reds.  I guess we&#039;ll found out how much of a stepping stone the J-League can be after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spiranovic is off to Uruwa Reds.  I guess we&#8217;ll found out how much of a stepping stone the J-League can be after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Steele</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/01/05/long-may-our-links-with-japanese-football-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-276680</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 03:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see you got a mention on his blog.

http://www.naocastle.com/blog/2010/01/toc_13.html

I completely agree with you. There are qualities of Japanese football that need a place in Australia, just like the Japanese could do with some of Australia&#039;s footballing qualities. Imaya&#039;s idea to have a football camp in Sydney is absolutely a step in the right direction, from first-hand knowledge of youth training techniques in both countries. The fact that he actuallly has experience with Australian football makes these camps even more valuable.

I&#039;m actually quite happy we got Sanfrecce, despite it meaning Gamba retain the Emperor&#039;s Cup. Not just because they&#039;ve since lost Kashiwagi, but also because Nagoya now have an even stronger teaem, with the likes of Tulio having signed for them. I doubt Adelaide could have salvaged anything from a game against them.
Would have been nice to be against S-Pa, though... and I&#039;m sure you would&#039;ve made the trip to watch that, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see you got a mention on his blog.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.naocastle.com/blog/2010/01/toc_13.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.naocastle.com/blog/2010/01/toc_13.html</a></p>
<p>I completely agree with you. There are qualities of Japanese football that need a place in Australia, just like the Japanese could do with some of Australia&#8217;s footballing qualities. Imaya&#8217;s idea to have a football camp in Sydney is absolutely a step in the right direction, from first-hand knowledge of youth training techniques in both countries. The fact that he actuallly has experience with Australian football makes these camps even more valuable.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually quite happy we got Sanfrecce, despite it meaning Gamba retain the Emperor&#8217;s Cup. Not just because they&#8217;ve since lost Kashiwagi, but also because Nagoya now have an even stronger teaem, with the likes of Tulio having signed for them. I doubt Adelaide could have salvaged anything from a game against them.<br />
Would have been nice to be against S-Pa, though&#8230; and I&#8217;m sure you would&#8217;ve made the trip to watch that, too.</p>
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		<title>By: BigAl</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/01/05/long-may-our-links-with-japanese-football-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-276645</link>
		<dc:creator>BigAl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 01:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the former</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the former</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Steele</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/01/05/long-may-our-links-with-japanese-football-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-276592</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re forgetting one point: Our key Socceroos all play in the major leagues of Europe, and they developed and refined their skills in those leagues. When a National Team coach says that players in the country&#039;s top flight will not get much of a look in, their best bet - if they haven&#039;t already received an offer in Europe - is to go to Asia, and develop their technical ability (something that is still lacking in Australia to a certain degree) further. This doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re stuck in Asia for life. It probably gives them a better chance of European offers; playing in a better league will give you better chances of playing for the national team, and if you don&#039;t have an EU or UK passport, extra Socceroos/Joeys games will give you the much-elusive requirements for a visa in those European countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re forgetting one point: Our key Socceroos all play in the major leagues of Europe, and they developed and refined their skills in those leagues. When a National Team coach says that players in the country&#8217;s top flight will not get much of a look in, their best bet &#8211; if they haven&#8217;t already received an offer in Europe &#8211; is to go to Asia, and develop their technical ability (something that is still lacking in Australia to a certain degree) further. This doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re stuck in Asia for life. It probably gives them a better chance of European offers; playing in a better league will give you better chances of playing for the national team, and if you don&#8217;t have an EU or UK passport, extra Socceroos/Joeys games will give you the much-elusive requirements for a visa in those European countries.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben of Phnom Penh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben of Phnom Penh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 10:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyed your time in Tokyo then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed your time in Tokyo then?</p>
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		<title>By: Davstar</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/01/05/long-may-our-links-with-japanese-football-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-276403</link>
		<dc:creator>Davstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 08:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Stepping stones&quot; if you havnt noticed our national team is better then Japans and most of our 1st div players started in the old NSL a semi-professional league. Our A-league is a full time league with scouts from all over the world watching matchs to find players its just young people need to give it a chance. Our young players going to the J-league is a step backwards mark my words the J-league isnt as good as 2nd div leagues in europe such as the greek, turkish super league etc. And sooner or later they will drain all our talent if we let them and our best players will rot in the J-league and we will be terrable at football once more. Don&#039;t let it happen dont support players moving to asia if they are under the age of 25! Untill Asian leagues can match europa competing european teams i will not rate them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stepping stones&#8221; if you havnt noticed our national team is better then Japans and most of our 1st div players started in the old NSL a semi-professional league. Our A-league is a full time league with scouts from all over the world watching matchs to find players its just young people need to give it a chance. Our young players going to the J-league is a step backwards mark my words the J-league isnt as good as 2nd div leagues in europe such as the greek, turkish super league etc. And sooner or later they will drain all our talent if we let them and our best players will rot in the J-league and we will be terrable at football once more. Don&#8217;t let it happen dont support players moving to asia if they are under the age of 25! Untill Asian leagues can match europa competing european teams i will not rate them!</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 04:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No question you go to Milan, even Fulham I wouldn&#039;t turn down.
It&#039;s more if the deal isn&#039;t their KB that Asia becomes an option. And by Asia its the K league and J league. Anything else is just for $$$.

If it&#039;s 2nd division European football then it&#039;s more of an issue and I would still likely say go to Europe if your a chance of playing or it&#039;s a good team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No question you go to Milan, even Fulham I wouldn&#8217;t turn down.<br />
It&#8217;s more if the deal isn&#8217;t their KB that Asia becomes an option. And by Asia its the K league and J league. Anything else is just for $$$.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s 2nd division European football then it&#8217;s more of an issue and I would still likely say go to Europe if your a chance of playing or it&#8217;s a good team.</p>
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		<title>By: Australian Football</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/01/05/long-may-our-links-with-japanese-football-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-276309</link>
		<dc:creator>Australian Football</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 03:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t dismiss David&#039;s comment so readily, he has a point...   If a youngster can trail with a Milan for instance and lands a contract in their reserve team he would definitely be better off... But in say that, the J-League is an ever improving standard of good technical football, but it can be very naive tactically at times... Which has been proven time and time again against top European opposition.

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AF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t dismiss David&#8217;s comment so readily, he has a point&#8230;   If a youngster can trail with a Milan for instance and lands a contract in their reserve team he would definitely be better off&#8230; But in say that, the J-League is an ever improving standard of good technical football, but it can be very naive tactically at times&#8230; Which has been proven time and time again against top European opposition.</p>
<p>~~~~~<br />
AF</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/01/05/long-may-our-links-with-japanese-football-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-276286</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a stepping stone as long as their moving up what’s the problem. You don&#039;t go from Sth Brisbane to Barcelona overnight.
If there is no interest from big euro teams going to the J league is a step up or would you prefer to just re sign with you’re A league club or move to some place like Romania?

Guys like Neil, Cahill and Schwarzer were able to start at modest European clubs at a young age because of their passports but not all Australian players have that luxury.

If you don&#039;t have a Euro passprt your not just trying to get into the starting 11 you also have to beat out Sth Americans, Africans, Eastern Europeans for one of the 3 foreign spots. Do well in the aussie under age teams, then do well oseas in a more technique based league and a player at 19 or 20 should have a pretty immpresive resume to get a decent club (and be ready to play) in europe.

Edit: Ben beat me to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a stepping stone as long as their moving up what’s the problem. You don&#8217;t go from Sth Brisbane to Barcelona overnight.<br />
If there is no interest from big euro teams going to the J league is a step up or would you prefer to just re sign with you’re A league club or move to some place like Romania?</p>
<p>Guys like Neil, Cahill and Schwarzer were able to start at modest European clubs at a young age because of their passports but not all Australian players have that luxury.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t have a Euro passprt your not just trying to get into the starting 11 you also have to beat out Sth Americans, Africans, Eastern Europeans for one of the 3 foreign spots. Do well in the aussie under age teams, then do well oseas in a more technique based league and a player at 19 or 20 should have a pretty immpresive resume to get a decent club (and be ready to play) in europe.</p>
<p>Edit: Ben beat me to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben of Phnom Penh</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/01/05/long-may-our-links-with-japanese-football-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-276281</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben of Phnom Penh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are talking stepping stones, David, not destinations</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are talking stepping stones, David, not destinations</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/01/05/long-may-our-links-with-japanese-football-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-276279</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Australian youngstars want to move to the J-league and K-league over fighting to succeed in europe then Australia will go backward how can we be better then Teams like Germany, Spain etc when our future players are in a league that is half a step up form our A-league</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Australian youngstars want to move to the J-league and K-league over fighting to succeed in europe then Australia will go backward how can we be better then Teams like Germany, Spain etc when our future players are in a league that is half a step up form our A-league</p>
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		<title>By: Ben of Phnom Penh</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/01/05/long-may-our-links-with-japanese-football-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-276268</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben of Phnom Penh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 01:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce in the J-League...... thought provoking</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce in the J-League&#8230;&#8230; thought provoking</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/01/05/long-may-our-links-with-japanese-football-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-276265</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 01:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t mind Tommy Oar going to Nagoya Grampus and sending crosses into big Josh ...but then if a J League club only has one AFC spot for players why would they want another short and quick midfielder, Bruce Djite would be more likely.

Hopefully J leage scouts are less into sterotypes than I ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t mind Tommy Oar going to Nagoya Grampus and sending crosses into big Josh &#8230;but then if a J League club only has one AFC spot for players why would they want another short and quick midfielder, Bruce Djite would be more likely.</p>
<p>Hopefully J leage scouts are less into sterotypes than I <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ben of Phnom Penh</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/01/05/long-may-our-links-with-japanese-football-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-276256</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben of Phnom Penh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 00:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was so hoping to see Kennedy-san line up Hindmarsh (well, on TV at least).

I am looking forward to the day that a promising 19 year old gets snapped up by a J-League club.  It could be a great development league for promising players given its higher technical proficiency.  This may become more of an issue in years hence as less and less of our players have the parent/grandparent connection to Europe which allows for an easy visa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was so hoping to see Kennedy-san line up Hindmarsh (well, on TV at least).</p>
<p>I am looking forward to the day that a promising 19 year old gets snapped up by a J-League club.  It could be a great development league for promising players given its higher technical proficiency.  This may become more of an issue in years hence as less and less of our players have the parent/grandparent connection to Europe which allows for an easy visa.</p>
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		<title>By: perryhaddock</title>
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		<dc:creator>perryhaddock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 00:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>milligan is playing in the j2 league as that is the level of his ability... i&#039;ve never seen him have a significant impact on a match for the australian senior team or even in the aleague...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>milligan is playing in the j2 league as that is the level of his ability&#8230; i&#8217;ve never seen him have a significant impact on a match for the australian senior team or even in the aleague&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/01/05/long-may-our-links-with-japanese-football-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-276238</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In hindsight we probably should have written Milligan off when he choose to go to China at such a young age. That showed a distinct lack of ambition to become a better player.

When those European clubs were interested in him I remember he walked out on the Olyroos and SFC to go on trials. That sounds ridiculous now and was a bit strange then but I think it shows how far the A league has come. A lot of the players from overseas we sign now come on trial first and our good players aren’t expected to have to trial anymore (though I am sure their will be exceptions). 

Personally I can stomach a player leaving for the K league (for now) or the J league (not J2) because it’s a better standard and a lot more money. Any other Asian league and I would forget about them.

Does anyone know who is Milligans agent? Whoever they are they are a shocker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In hindsight we probably should have written Milligan off when he choose to go to China at such a young age. That showed a distinct lack of ambition to become a better player.</p>
<p>When those European clubs were interested in him I remember he walked out on the Olyroos and SFC to go on trials. That sounds ridiculous now and was a bit strange then but I think it shows how far the A league has come. A lot of the players from overseas we sign now come on trial first and our good players aren’t expected to have to trial anymore (though I am sure their will be exceptions). </p>
<p>Personally I can stomach a player leaving for the K league (for now) or the J league (not J2) because it’s a better standard and a lot more money. Any other Asian league and I would forget about them.</p>
<p>Does anyone know who is Milligans agent? Whoever they are they are a shocker.</p>
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		<title>By: Australian Football</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/01/05/long-may-our-links-with-japanese-football-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-276232</link>
		<dc:creator>Australian Football</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you mean Hear!!! Hear !!!..  ????? or not here or there ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you mean Hear!!! Hear !!!..  ????? or not here or there ???</p>
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		<title>By: Australian Football</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/01/05/long-may-our-links-with-japanese-football-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-276226</link>
		<dc:creator>Australian Football</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; &quot;On that note, it was wonderful to see highlights of the Emperor’s Cup final on “The World Game” on Sunday, with SBS commentator Vitor Sobral providing an excellent call of the game for good measure.&quot; &lt;/i&gt;

Nice article Mike and I watched the SBS J-League Cup final too... The pitch seemed to be below par to me not their usual high standard playing surface you would expect from the Japanese ... (could have been my SBS TV reception ?)

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AF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> &#8220;On that note, it was wonderful to see highlights of the Emperor’s Cup final on “The World Game” on Sunday, with SBS commentator Vitor Sobral providing an excellent call of the game for good measure.&#8221; </i></p>
<p>Nice article Mike and I watched the SBS J-League Cup final too&#8230; The pitch seemed to be below par to me not their usual high standard playing surface you would expect from the Japanese &#8230; (could have been my SBS TV reception ?)</p>
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AF</p>
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		<title>By: BigAl</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigAl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here ! Here !  - Congratulations to Gamba Osaka for their latest Emperor’s Cup win . . . ??????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here ! Here !  &#8211; Congratulations to Gamba Osaka for their latest Emperor’s Cup win . . . ??????</p>
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		<title>By: Davstar</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/01/05/long-may-our-links-with-japanese-football-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-276191</link>
		<dc:creator>Davstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Milliage what happen to him? at one stage he was training and had interest from Manchester city, Wolfsburge and Arsenal now his in J2 league he should just come back to the A-league. Personally i think how are we ever to get better then our Asian rivels if our players are mid-table players in there leagues?? If you cant make it in europe i dont think should be a socceroo or on the 1st team socceroos at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Milliage what happen to him? at one stage he was training and had interest from Manchester city, Wolfsburge and Arsenal now his in J2 league he should just come back to the A-league. Personally i think how are we ever to get better then our Asian rivels if our players are mid-table players in there leagues?? If you cant make it in europe i dont think should be a socceroo or on the 1st team socceroos at least.</p>
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