Nicky, Socceroos can’t leave anything to risk in Brisbane
By Jesse Fink, 8 Jan 2010 Jesse Fink is a Roar Guru
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- Dario Vidosic, football, Nicky Carle, Pim Verbeek, Socceroos
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Uruguay's Dario Rodriguez tackles Australia's Nick Carle during the Australia versus Uruguay soccer match at Telstra Stadium, Sydney, Saturday, June 2, 2007. Uruguay defeated Australia 2 - 1. AAP Image/Dean Lewins
Did Nicky Carle secure his berth to South Africa on the strength of his performance against Kuwait? Probably not. But will Pim Verbeek give him another chance? Undoubtedly.
Carle didn’t really put a foot wrong, running hard, getting from box to box, distributing well.
Yet as Andy Harper said at one point during the telecast, in the opposition half he kept receiving the ball with his back to goal and never had anyone running off him.
There wasn’t much of an opportunity to play himself into any sustained pattern of attack, though at times he showed a nice understanding with Luke Wilkshire and his perfectly weighted free kick in the fourth minute caused the necessary panic to cough up Dean Heffernan’s poacher’s special.
So it’s not over for Nicky yet by a long stretch but the final Asian Cup qualifer in March, against Indonesia, looms as a make-or-break game for a man who Jason Culina, Harry Kewell and Tim Cahill have marked as a creative wizard for the Socceroos.
The problem for Nicky, though, is twofold: the continued rise of Dario Vidosic, who played very well in Kuwait, and simple mathematics.
The draw against Kuwait and Oman’s win over Indonesia in Jakarta has given the Omanis a real shot of nabbing one of the two qualifying spots. They sit on seven points, one behind Kuwait and Australia, and have home advantage against the Kuwaitis in Muscat on March 3 to conjure up their own great escape.
Verbeek should be confident that even with his A-League players on deck he will have enough firepower to account for the hopeless Indonesians, who lost 2-1 in Jakarta to put them out of reckoning for the Asian Cup, a result that will surely seal the fate of coach Benny Dollo.
But his headache is that Australia and Kuwait are equal on goal difference. If Oman defeat Kuwait, they cannot take the risk of losing.
You would have to go back to Surabaya in 1981 when Les Scheinflug’s team fell to an 88th minute goal from Risdianto in a World Cup qualifier, a result that put Australia out of the race for España 82, to find the last – and only – time the Socceroos have succumbed to the Merah Putih in 14 meetings since 1967.
That, however, won’t be enough comfort for Verbeek. Especially so when the young Indonesian team could have some wind in their sails under a new – possibly European – coach.
Failure to seal qualification for the Asian Cup would be a political disaster for Football Federation Australia at the business end of the World Cup bidding campaign, so expect the bulk of the European cavalry to return for Australia’s final match on March 3, which means, unfortunately for Nicky, falling once again in the shadow of Bresh, Harry and Tim.
He can still get to South Africa, and for joga bonito’s sake let’s hope he does, but he’s going to have to revive his club career, and not rely on his representative one, to make his case for selection. How he will do that while being frozen out at Crystal Palace is anyone’s guess.
If talent were enough to book a seat on that Qantas jumbo, Carle would be one of the first players on board. But football’s never that simple.
While others will get to Johannesburg in comfort, Carle’s going to have to get there by working harder than he ever has before and praying that the ball, for once, falls his way.
That or a plain old-fashioned miracle.
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January 8th 2010 @ 10:27am
Australian Football said | January 8th 2010 @ 10:27am | Report comment
Jesse,
“…and for joga bonito’s sake let’s hope he does”
Happy New Year Jesse and welcome back with a column on Nicky Carle…
Nicky Carle must go to SA and has been so damned unlucky not to be playing for his club because of a second rate manager who keeps him stuck on a bench and refused a loan offer that would have seen him go on loan to Asia and get the necessary game time he desperately needs and staring for a J-League club (?) like Jesus…
I didn’t see the game against the Kuwaitis but I trust your opinion that he did not put a foot wrong… Holman continues to keep Carle out of contention and had the situation been reversed we would have seen Holman stuff up as he usually does, even when the good players are around him… Put Holman in the HAL-Roos outfit instead of Carle and we would have witness a far worse performance… Put Carle in the team with the Euro-Roo’s outfit and we would have seen a performance far better then he had shown on Thursday morning…
I’m still hoping Pimbo holds his nerve and plays the HAL-Roos outfit with the inclusion of Carle and the boys who played in the game against Kuwait… Even if Pimbo calls all of the Euro-Roos out for this fixture I’m sure Carle will go to SA he has to… It would be the greatest injustice for any Australian Football like Carle to miss out on the biggest show on earth when undoubtedly he deserves to be at the very least in the 23 man squad…
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AF formerly KB
January 8th 2010 @ 10:35am
AndyRoo said | January 8th 2010 @ 10:35am | Report comment
KB you do Holminho (Blacktown’s finest) a disservice. His positional play is quite good and he has a good eye for spaces. Holminho’s presence would have made Kemps job a lot easier.
Holminho is great at getting into good positions, sure he frustratingly then sprays them into row Z but if you replace Holminho with Carle like they did against Kuwait instead of those chances going into row Z they just never eventuate.
January 8th 2010 @ 1:03pm
Australian Football said | January 8th 2010 @ 1:03pm | Report comment
Regrettably AndyRoo, the Koala Bear that use to be honoured by me with my moniker, who lived in the nearby native reserve close to the CRSL was hit and run over by a NAB armoured truck in their hast to give out those $20 NAB vouchers for the Auskick registrations before the real football kids were signed up… So therefore, I do not deem it necessary to use the Moniker KB from this day forth…
So my new moniker and part of my “New Years Resolution” is as above “Australian Football” or for expediency sake “AF” to honour our boys who will make the trip to SA Football Word Cup apart from Holmaninho (who has a false Brazilian passport as it seems) in our quest for the Holy Grail….
No he will not be given any special dispensation from me at this point in time; unless he can 1) prove to me he can kill the ball dead at his foot, 2) protect the ball with his body, 3) give better weighted passes to his colleagues and 4) stop this useless running around like a chook with his head cut off in an opposing teams defensive triangle (pure waste of energy)… Give me my boy Nicky who can do all of those Football skills that I have just mentioned apart from the useless headless Chook impersonation…
‘Vicentin’ had once wrote it is better to have a footballer who can put his foot on the ball, protect the ball with his body with the ball at his feet, holding onto possession, then waiting for team mates to come towards him then use the ball intelligently opposed to a useless footballer who gives too many silly rushed passes that, result in losing vital possession at a vial moments… I whole heartily agree with that philosophy ie possession, possession, possession is the key.
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AF
January 8th 2010 @ 2:40pm
AndyRoo said | January 8th 2010 @ 2:40pm | Report comment
That explains why they are trying to make amends and repair their brand
http://www.nab.com.au/wps/wcm/connect/nab/nab/home/about_us/5/1/20
January 8th 2010 @ 3:24pm
Australian Football said | January 8th 2010 @ 3:24pm | Report comment
AndyRoo,
I think the real hero here is “RealFootball” for alerting us Football zealots of this great injustice handed out at grass roots level… With still no $20 vouches given out on registration day for Football, albeit I would not encourage such practices as it has a nasty bribe conation surrounding the whole practice… This NAB football promotion for young Australian Football talent is far better…
But what of the poor Koala Bear tragically struck down by the greed of the NAB/AFL Auskick promotion… Maybe a plaque would not go astray at the nearby Reserve down from the CRSL, as a permanent reminder that greed is evil..
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AF
January 8th 2010 @ 3:13pm
Mr said | January 8th 2010 @ 3:13pm | Report comment
The thing is that opposition teams don’t realise that Holman is useless until late in the second half. Up until that point they have at least 1 man marking him, following him around the field making space. Once they figure he is pants and no threat whatsoever, they almost stop marking him.
January 8th 2010 @ 10:43am
Mick of Newie said | January 8th 2010 @ 10:43am | Report comment
An interesting dilemma AR.
January 8th 2010 @ 10:49am
Punter said | January 8th 2010 @ 10:49am | Report comment
I’m one of those swing Carle fans, I wish he had more of a chance to see what he can do. He does provide something different, but he also is no world beater. Watching part of the game the other night (i still have it on IQ) I thought Vidosic has overtaken both Carle & Holman (though some like PIM thinks he’s great).
January 8th 2010 @ 10:50am
tony in canberra said | January 8th 2010 @ 10:50am | Report comment
AndyRoo, great point… I’m a fan of anyone who plays for the socceroos but it has to be said that Holman creates more scoring opportunities, and not just for himself… If Scott McDonald didn’t have the ‘Viduka green and gold’ scoring disease after being put through by the man, Holman would look a lot better than he does!
January 8th 2010 @ 11:04am
Phil E Buster said | January 8th 2010 @ 11:04am | Report comment
Nicky Carle’s bad, mmmkay…
Too slow, dwells on the ball too long (which results in him getting smashed by defenders and/or losing the ball), gives away free kicks and penalties in his own half. Most of the time is spent ball watching. On the evidence of his last match does not display even a skerrick of joga bonito. And that free kick was not perfectly weighted, it dipped too early and missed the target, as did most of his corner kicks.
There is no way in hell he should be on the plane to SA.
He’s a lot like Archie Thompson, looks like a superstar when he plays in the A-League or in Nicky’s case back in his futsal days, but at any decent level of football is shown to be the sadly limited player that he is.
The second after the moment captured in the photograph above shows the danger of thinking you or someone else is better than they actually are at football.
January 8th 2010 @ 11:31am
volante said | January 8th 2010 @ 11:31am | Report comment
i’m a carle fan and i think he had an OK game, but didn’t really show his skills (apart from that chip into the box for Thompson to run onto). he was pressured well and had to work hard to control some horrible passes, although to his credit he was keeping possession despite the pressure and poor passing.
vidosic probably made the best claims for SA and another attacking mid putting his hand up isn’t good for nicky, although the hope is still there that pim will realise all attacking mids are not created equal. vidosic seems to play more like kewell or holman while carle does naturally what very few socceroos do in an international game: control and hold the ball and try to keep possession. i much preferred carles back and side passing to heffernan or kemp’s wild passes forward to nobody.
January 8th 2010 @ 11:52am
Dogz R Barkn said | January 8th 2010 @ 11:52am | Report comment
Neither Thompson or Carle have done their chances much good.
In fact, I’m starting to wonder whether Moore is the dead cert everyone is expecting him to be.
January 8th 2010 @ 12:17pm
Gibbo said | January 8th 2010 @ 12:17pm | Report comment
“If talent were enough to book a seat on that Qantas jumbo, Carle would be one of the first players on board.”
Talent? Seriously, i think even on this measure he’s still behind bresh, harry and tim, and, based on performance, Dazza Vidosic! There should be more articles about this kid rather than Nicky Carle.
January 8th 2010 @ 12:47pm
Brian said | January 8th 2010 @ 12:47pm | Report comment
I like Jesse’s writing but seriously give it up. If he can’t be risked againt Indonesia in Brisbane what chance against any World Cup team at the World Cup?
And enough excuses about players around him. I reckon if I was playing his position with Ronaldo on the right-wing, Messi on the left and Torres up front I too would find space
January 8th 2010 @ 1:44pm
moo cow said | January 8th 2010 @ 1:44pm | Report comment
Is the Indonesia game on a FIFA international date?
January 8th 2010 @ 4:46pm
Joe FC said | January 8th 2010 @ 4:46pm | Report comment
-”Also the brisbane game on march 3 falls on a fifa date but clubs only have to release players 48 hours before the game and not the usual 4-5 days.” – as per tifosi’s comment above.