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	<title>Comments on: What about calling it the Imran-Lawson Trophy?</title>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant</description>
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		<title>By: Timmuh</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/01/15/what-about-calling-it-the-imran-lawson-trophy/comment-page-2/#comment-281813</link>
		<dc:creator>Timmuh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 08:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imran would be a certainty if such a trophy was decided necessary. In fact, why even bother with an Australian, just call it the Imran (or the Immy)? The Sir Frank Worwell Trophy works well enough without anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imran would be a certainty if such a trophy was decided necessary. In fact, why even bother with an Australian, just call it the Imran (or the Immy)? The Sir Frank Worwell Trophy works well enough without anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 01:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waugh-on-Terror Shield?</description>
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		<title>By: Kersi Meher-Homji</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kersi Meher-Homji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Greg,  It feels good to be read in Germany. I&#039;ll think of you when I watch &quot;Hogan&#039;s Heroes&quot; on TV. The fumbling bumbling performances by Pakistan cricketers remind me of Colonel Klink and Sargeant Schultz! With enemies like them, who needs friends?

Point taken, Greg. I should have mentioned Imran&#039;s role in NSW cricket -- climaxing in NSW winning the Sheffield Shield grand final in 1985. As Imran and Henry are so inter-twined that naming a Trophy after them is not as ridiculous an idea as it would sound to most.

On second thoughts, LILIMRAN Trophy to immortalise the truly great cricketers Lillee and Imran is also a good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Greg,  It feels good to be read in Germany. I&#8217;ll think of you when I watch &#8220;Hogan&#8217;s Heroes&#8221; on TV. The fumbling bumbling performances by Pakistan cricketers remind me of Colonel Klink and Sargeant Schultz! With enemies like them, who needs friends?</p>
<p>Point taken, Greg. I should have mentioned Imran&#8217;s role in NSW cricket &#8212; climaxing in NSW winning the Sheffield Shield grand final in 1985. As Imran and Henry are so inter-twined that naming a Trophy after them is not as ridiculous an idea as it would sound to most.</p>
<p>On second thoughts, LILIMRAN Trophy to immortalise the truly great cricketers Lillee and Imran is also a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings (to those who know me) from Germany, where I am working for the year.

It&#039;s strange following cricket from this distance. The last time I did this there was no internet, so the situation was quite simple. But now the world is different, and one is in the strange situation of being both very close and very far, i.e., no TV. It beats me that EuroSport shows the Africa Cup of Nations (yawn!) around the clock, when it could instead be showing some far more interesting sport from Hobart and Johannesburg (!), but that&#039;s life. A perceptive friend is so convinced of Ponting&#039;s demise that he bet me that the &quot;freshly baked&quot; (to use a German phrase) Cricketer of the Decade will average less than 40 over the rest of his career. Obviously I can&#039;t see with my own eyes just how much conviction has disappeared from the great man&#039;s pull shot (the topic du jour of the cognoscenti on Cricinfo), but it seems a safe bet to me that RTP will average over 40.

To Kersi&#039;s article. I find the comments above to be largely sensible. However I thought I would add one thing: Kersi&#039;s suggestion has a nice symmetry to it in that just as Henry contributed to Pakistani cricket, so also the Lion of Pakistan contributed to Australian cricket. Namely, Kersi forgot to mention Imran&#039;s influential season with NSW in 1984/5, when he helped them to win the Sheffield Shield and he nurtured the young Steve Waugh in a significant way.

Still, it must be said that Imran-Lawson is an uneven partnership in that one was a great of the game and the other was not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings (to those who know me) from Germany, where I am working for the year.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s strange following cricket from this distance. The last time I did this there was no internet, so the situation was quite simple. But now the world is different, and one is in the strange situation of being both very close and very far, i.e., no TV. It beats me that EuroSport shows the Africa Cup of Nations (yawn!) around the clock, when it could instead be showing some far more interesting sport from Hobart and Johannesburg (!), but that&#8217;s life. A perceptive friend is so convinced of Ponting&#8217;s demise that he bet me that the &#8220;freshly baked&#8221; (to use a German phrase) Cricketer of the Decade will average less than 40 over the rest of his career. Obviously I can&#8217;t see with my own eyes just how much conviction has disappeared from the great man&#8217;s pull shot (the topic du jour of the cognoscenti on Cricinfo), but it seems a safe bet to me that RTP will average over 40.</p>
<p>To Kersi&#8217;s article. I find the comments above to be largely sensible. However I thought I would add one thing: Kersi&#8217;s suggestion has a nice symmetry to it in that just as Henry contributed to Pakistani cricket, so also the Lion of Pakistan contributed to Australian cricket. Namely, Kersi forgot to mention Imran&#8217;s influential season with NSW in 1984/5, when he helped them to win the Sheffield Shield and he nurtured the young Steve Waugh in a significant way.</p>
<p>Still, it must be said that Imran-Lawson is an uneven partnership in that one was a great of the game and the other was not.</p>
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		<title>By: Kersi Meher-Homji</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kersi Meher-Homji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 21:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jokes aside. If Australia-India series honours Border and Gavaskar, and Aus-SL series honours Warne and Muralitharan; why should Aus-Pak series not honour their respective high achievers?

Either have personalised trophies for all major series or not have any. 

The above mentioned four plus Frank Worrell, Viv Richards, Basil D&#039;Oliviera, the Pataudis, the Chappells and the Hadlees deserve to be immortalised. But what about Benaud, Imran, Lillee, Botham, Waughs... ? Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jokes aside. If Australia-India series honours Border and Gavaskar, and Aus-SL series honours Warne and Muralitharan; why should Aus-Pak series not honour their respective high achievers?</p>
<p>Either have personalised trophies for all major series or not have any. </p>
<p>The above mentioned four plus Frank Worrell, Viv Richards, Basil D&#8217;Oliviera, the Pataudis, the Chappells and the Hadlees deserve to be immortalised. But what about Benaud, Imran, Lillee, Botham, Waughs&#8230; ? Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: formeropenside</title>
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		<dc:creator>formeropenside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, of course, the Gandamack Trophy for Afghan - UK encounters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, of course, the Gandamack Trophy for Afghan &#8211; UK encounters.</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The” Khyber Cup”, for those with a memory for rhyming slang, but I suppose that it would be more appropriate for Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Lawson?? - given his lowly position on the stats table? Nepotism old chap?

Either forget the idea, or find a single word/name that honours both countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The” Khyber Cup”, for those with a memory for rhyming slang, but I suppose that it would be more appropriate for Afghanistan and Pakistan.</p>
<p>Lawson?? &#8211; given his lowly position on the stats table? Nepotism old chap?</p>
<p>Either forget the idea, or find a single word/name that honours both countries.</p>
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		<title>By: formeropenside</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/01/15/what-about-calling-it-the-imran-lawson-trophy/comment-page-1/#comment-281450</link>
		<dc:creator>formeropenside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 01:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might as well name it after the captains of the first teams to play each other.   If its the first Test teams, then its Kardar - Johnson Cup.

Remembering however that until the partition of India, Pakistan per se did not exist, and the teams from the 1934-35 Australian (first class only) tour of India might be appropriate, although the 3rd game in Lahore is obviously the most appropriate to treat as an earlier initial encounter, if that is sought (Wazir Ali - Ryder Cup).  Perhaps the Services Team of 1945-46?  Perhaps not, as no game was played in Lahore.  So Kardar - Johnson Cup it is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might as well name it after the captains of the first teams to play each other.   If its the first Test teams, then its Kardar &#8211; Johnson Cup.</p>
<p>Remembering however that until the partition of India, Pakistan per se did not exist, and the teams from the 1934-35 Australian (first class only) tour of India might be appropriate, although the 3rd game in Lahore is obviously the most appropriate to treat as an earlier initial encounter, if that is sought (Wazir Ali &#8211; Ryder Cup).  Perhaps the Services Team of 1945-46?  Perhaps not, as no game was played in Lahore.  So Kardar &#8211; Johnson Cup it is!</p>
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		<title>By: Kersi Meher-Homji</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/01/15/what-about-calling-it-the-imran-lawson-trophy/comment-page-1/#comment-281436</link>
		<dc:creator>Kersi Meher-Homji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 01:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You picked it up very well, Josh. 
It was my error in placing Trans Tasman Trophy in the same paragraph as Trophies named after well-known cricketers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You picked it up very well, Josh.<br />
It was my error in placing Trans Tasman Trophy in the same paragraph as Trophies named after well-known cricketers.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 00:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea of Henry getting a trophy guernsey.

However, I would like to ask - who exactly were &quot;Trans&quot; and &quot;Tasman&quot;??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of Henry getting a trophy guernsey.</p>
<p>However, I would like to ask &#8211; who exactly were &#8220;Trans&#8221; and &#8220;Tasman&#8221;??</p>
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		<title>By: Brett McKay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett McKay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 00:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, I&#039;m not sure I&#039;m big on this Kersi, the need to name the series anything, or even the choice of names...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;m big on this Kersi, the need to name the series anything, or even the choice of names&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Viscount Crouchback</title>
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		<dc:creator>Viscount Crouchback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. This seems to be an Australian thing? The ARU went on a naming frenzy circa 2000. Some trophies - the Calcutta Cup, the Ashes, the Bledisloe - have meaning, and some don&#039;t. Certain types of society love to invent tradition, but let&#039;s not force things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. This seems to be an Australian thing? The ARU went on a naming frenzy circa 2000. Some trophies &#8211; the Calcutta Cup, the Ashes, the Bledisloe &#8211; have meaning, and some don&#8217;t. Certain types of society love to invent tradition, but let&#8217;s not force things.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love to see the &quot;Lillee-Miandad&quot; trophy,

and there&#039;s a particular image I could just see imortalised in wood/bronze and crystal.......


;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love to see the &#8220;Lillee-Miandad&#8221; trophy,</p>
<p>and there&#8217;s a particular image I could just see imortalised in wood/bronze and crystal&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p> <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Whiteline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whiteline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on Fisher! I&#039;m sure Henry would be embarrassed by this suggestion Kersi - put this one to bed i reckon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on Fisher! I&#8217;m sure Henry would be embarrassed by this suggestion Kersi &#8211; put this one to bed i reckon.</p>
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		<title>By: Fisher Price</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fisher Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does there need to be a silly named-after-former-players trophy at all? I much prefer the more substantial sounding Ashes or Wisden Trophy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does there need to be a silly named-after-former-players trophy at all? I much prefer the more substantial sounding Ashes or Wisden Trophy.</p>
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