All Stars will increase League’s national reach
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By M1tch, 17 Jan 2010 M1tch is a Roar Guru
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The upcoming All Stars match at Skilled Park could just be the game that introduces and re-introduces people outside the heartlands to the game of Rugby League.
The match, which will be played before the start of the season, must be shown around the country to simply show people what the game has to offer, even if it’s just to show them that the game of Rugby League isn’t just a soap opera with the off-field incidents they hear about. Rather to actually show them the skill and passion the game holds.
The promotion of the game has been fantastic. Hearing players like Preston Campbell and Jonathon Thurston describe what this match already means to them. The passion is already there, and dare we dream we could have
another match which will drive the same passion and excitement that State of Origin has given us for 30 years.
Not long now until the kick-off. So to those who love or loathe the game, I do suggest you tune in on February 13 and watch what will be one of the matches of the year .
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Foxy Loxy said | January 17th 2010 @ 7:44am | Report comment
Talk to Channel 9. It won’t be shown live outside of the NRL states. MIght not be on at all.
Mick from Giralang said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:27pm | Report comment
FL: It’s part of Channel Nine’s deliberate policy of suppressing rugby league coveraged in the AFL states. I blame the NRL though for letting them get away with it.
Dogs Of War said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:30pm | Report comment
So can’t wait for the IC. Plenty in the newspapers today about it, and by the sounds of it, the right people are being pushed to the outer.
Michael C said | January 17th 2010 @ 7:59am | Report comment
The AFL has been playing indigenous all-stars matches for quite some time now, but, generally play the games up in Cairns or Darwin and – reality is – for all the symbolism, it’s just another pre-season game where players are rusty and club supporters/coaches hope their stars don’t go getting injured.
From this perspective – I’ve been a bit astounded at the build up to this game.
Enjoy it – but, it’s just a pre-season hit out.
Foxy Loxy said | January 17th 2010 @ 11:19am | Report comment
AFL deserves cheers for getting the concepts going but you lot got Origin wrong and you got the Aboriginal vs All Stars game wrong too. Your fans and players and officials and media don’t appreciate that meaningful matches can exist outside of the club competition. That’s why you’re astounded. It’s also why you have no success with Origin and no Aboriginal All Stars game worth mentioning. It’s not even remotely close to a pre-season hit out.
Foxy Loxy said | January 17th 2010 @ 11:27am | Report comment
COme to think of it, that’s probably the reason the All Stars game won’t be shown live in Melbourne. The NRL and Aboriginal groups should be impressing on Channel Nine Melbourne the significance of this game means to Aboriginals and offers all Australians, even the ones not in the NRL states.
Mick from Giralang said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:22pm | Report comment
I’m surprised AFL supporters care so little about their indigenous participation. We cherish the Aboriginal character in rugby league and the breathtaking skills our indigenous brothers bring to the game. Indeed, Arhtur Beetson was the first aboriginal to captain an Australian sporting team. The opportunity to celebrate their contribution is something league supporters have embraced ito an amazing extent.
We would never, ever, dismiss it as “just a pre-season hit out” or see it as just a bit of “symbolism.” We’re fair dinkum about our appreciation of aboriginal people in our sport.
It’s just one of the. many stark cultural contrasts between our game and AFL.
Foxy Loxy said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:35pm | Report comment
Probably because AFL is controlled by Melbourne. Whether it is officials or the media. They treasure marngrook but the reality is that Aboriginals have never been a big part of Melbourne life. Few Aboriginals live in Victoria. There is no Redfern or La Perouse or Blacktown in Melbourne.
Michael C said | January 17th 2010 @ 8:57pm | Report comment
Foxy – tend to agree on last.
On earlier – AFL didn’t so much get SoO wrong, but, they have the extra state of significance (i.e. 3 way vs NSW v QLD 2 way). And NRL has Aust rep riding on it. If the AFL put All-Aust on the line, then, the ruddy ‘Allies’ have to come back into play. I guess – there’s often talk about just a Vics vs the Rest all the time, well, that got trialled in 2008 and it was okay, but, SA and WA want their own state team.
Mick from G – we cherish the indigenous lads playing the game – the skills/silky movement, they’re ‘born’ to play the game; and those who have grown as individuals who’ve been able to become community leaders and role models. btw – clarify that Arthur Beetson was the first captain of an Australian Representative sporting team.
I think the thing about the games up in Darwin and Cairns is that they are played somewhere that it means MORE to play them than it would in Melbourne. The ‘Marn Grook’ game in Sydney and the ‘Dreamtime at the G’ match in Melb serve the big city purpose.
Redb said | January 19th 2010 @ 2:45pm | Report comment
Heard of the Dreamtime at the G.
MarkH said | January 17th 2010 @ 8:02am | Report comment
How..its at skilled park. It will be on at 3am Melb and not at all in Perth.
M1tch said | January 17th 2010 @ 8:59am | Report comment
If the game is taken around the country it will raise the profile of the game, remember it was almost taken by Melbourne
Justin said | January 17th 2010 @ 9:03am | Report comment
If…
M1tch said | January 17th 2010 @ 9:07am | Report comment
Sorry lol
I do mean When
MarkH said | January 17th 2010 @ 8:05am | Report comment
P.S. S14 starts on feb 12. Red v Tahs on in Bris the same night as the all stars….
Sam el Perro said | January 17th 2010 @ 8:17am | Report comment
With respect to the coverage that the Reds game will get, it is probably to the detriment of Rugby that the Super 14 opener clashes with All Stars game. The Courier-Mail has been running the All Stars game pretty hard. That said, the QRU may have an ace up their sleeve to promote the Reds this season. Maybe.
MarkH said | January 17th 2010 @ 1:39pm | Report comment
I dont think so Sam, the Red v Tahs will televised be nation wide on FOX. It dosnt matter about the clash, its the actual coverage accross the country that really counts.
Sam el Perro said | January 17th 2010 @ 7:18pm | Report comment
Nationwide on Fox hasn’t really been pulling in too much in the way of numbers for the poor old Reds, unfortunately. And with the lack of coverage that the Super 14 has been getting this close to the season, I am not sure that their opening game will get too many punters in the gate.
As for “the clash doesn’t count, the coverage does”… this is a bizarre proposition. I watch sport because I like sport, not because I am want to tally up crowd figures or ratings afterwards
Foxy Loxy said | January 17th 2010 @ 9:06am | Report comment
Didn;t realise that. It’s about time then that the ARU and the two clubs got some media coverage happening for it. The All Stars game has sold out and is the CM newspaper all the time.
Mick from Giralang said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:24pm | Report comment
Can’t wait to see the TV ratings between the union and the All Stars match.
Robbo said | January 17th 2010 @ 4:04pm | Report comment
The Reds game won’t come within a million.
Forgetmenot said | January 17th 2010 @ 8:16am | Report comment
Ill be watching. Just as i watch the Indigenous AFL match as well.
MattRusty said | January 17th 2010 @ 9:55am | Report comment
League is doing very well ahead of AFL, football and Union in this area; copying the All Star concept from US football and basketball (+ State of Origin as well); key is to ensure that players are passionate about playing in the match each and every year which is a challenge. A one off is easy to be passionate about but when you add 26 rounds of footy, State of Origin, a World Cup, finals, a pre-season – it’s a long season for the top players; something has to give at some point, and it won’t be club duties!
dirk said | January 19th 2010 @ 5:06pm | Report comment
I guess the passion will come from players that are good enough for rep footy but on the fringe. Like Preston and Prince. The get to show case their skills outside club footy.
allblackfan said | January 17th 2010 @ 12:34pm | Report comment
I can’t wait for the game, MR! SHould be a cracker!! Lockyer and Marshall together will be worth the wait
But just to clarify: union has had an All Star team for decades; the team is called the Barbarians and is an invitational side comprising players from all over the world. This team beat the All Blacks in December and comprised South Africans, Wallabies and Italians
Foxy Loxy said | January 17th 2010 @ 12:57pm | Report comment
The Barbarians are not an All Star selection. The players are invited. There is no merit selection process involved at all.
rugbyfuture said | January 17th 2010 @ 1:06pm | Report comment
most of it is based on merit, you have to be good enough and entertaining enough to make the team, bar the one uncapped player.
Foxy Loxy said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:40pm | Report comment
Really? Who makes up the selection panel? What criteria do they apply? Where can I find this on the web?
The Barbarians team comes from a handful of jolly chaps sitting around choosing who they would like to invite. It’s got nothing to do with merit as players. It’s hardly the same as an entire sport’s supporters deciding the merit of the players.
Justin said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:48pm | Report comment
Merit as players? Surely if you are playing Test Match Rugby you are more than capable of playing?
I like the concept of an AS team but having it picked by the public doesnt make it an accurate team of the best players IMO. Most of the public dont know their ass from their elbow when it come to football of any code.
Norm said | January 17th 2010 @ 3:49pm | Report comment
Justin
aren’t you a member of the public?
rugbyfuture said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:52pm | Report comment
so opposed to a few fans choosing players online, they have a few selectors (like for the australian cricket team, league team, rugby team, netball team [in fact all representative teams]) the barbarians team is invitational yes, but its based on the premise that the players are of the highest standard (on and off the field) its premise was selecting the best players AND role models for the game. so this selection process may not be entirely based on how well the player plays, but it certainly is based on the best players.
Foxy Loxy said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:57pm | Report comment
“Surely if you are playing Test Match Rugby you are more than capable of playing?” So let’s toss all the names in a hat and give Barbarians jerseys to the first fifteen that come out.
Foxy Loxy said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:59pm | Report comment
“selection process may not be entirely based on how well the player plays, but it certainly is based on the best players.”
Unlike the Wallabies.
rugbyfuture said | January 17th 2010 @ 3:05pm | Report comment
foxy loxy i don’t quite understand your first statement, the selection process for the barbarians was not stated as a toss up he said that merit based selection applied. I agree with your wallabies statement, thats exactly it, they do select based on public face too, whereas the wallabies are selected based on the on field playing.
Foxy Loxy said | January 17th 2010 @ 3:24pm | Report comment
RF – Justin said “Merit as players? Surely if you are playing Test Match Rugby you are more than capable of playing?” That means he is saying every RU Test player is worthy of Barbarians selection. You yourself said not all players are worthy, due to their off field behaviour.
rugbyfuture said | January 17th 2010 @ 3:29pm | Report comment
yep i’d agree on your side with that foxy, but do u agree that just because selectors create the team that that doesnt make it any less of an allstars team than one picked by the public, the players are still picked on a certain merit?
Foxy Loxy said | January 17th 2010 @ 3:46pm | Report comment
RF – you’re right, but the Barbarians go beyond on field form as a criteria. So it isn’t really a team comparable to the All Stars or a Test team. That’s not good or bad, just different.
Dogs Of War said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:57pm | Report comment
So what Justin? It’s the fact that the public get a choice, and pick who they like, or think will do well is what makes it so good. I know you are used to crusty old gents, sipping there whisky, smoking their cigars, choosing the Barbarians team for you.
Hey Justin and RF, why come on League threads if your not interested in the sport, and just want to put it down. Plenty of Union threads where you can backslap each other, and talk about your favourite cigars and scotch.
rugbyfuture said | January 17th 2010 @ 3:03pm | Report comment
as foxy loxy said on a union thread, the conversation was already meriting discussion on this subject, im not insulting rugby league at all, i was stating the facts and as i have said previously i still have an interest in rugby league.
oh and no thanks, i don’t drink or smoke
rugbyfuture said | January 17th 2010 @ 3:13pm | Report comment
and i never said that the public selection didnt merit them being called all stars, i was defending foxy loxy saying that selectors picking an international team based on performance on and off the field isn’t
Justin said | January 17th 2010 @ 3:15pm | Report comment
DOW – Grow up mate, your stereotypes are boring.
Can you point out where I bagged League? If you read my post and took off your blinkers you might actually see that I like the AS concept. IMO the selection method isnt great but thats my opinion. I dont like popularity contests when picking teams. if its such an important fixture then surely it should be selected a little more seriously?
Dogs Of War said | January 17th 2010 @ 4:02pm | Report comment
Justin said : A Lions tour and a World Cup ring a bell?
Justin said : Union will be back in AUS. A good year from the Brumbies or god forbid the Tahs will help and then some exciting youngsters in an improving (hopefully) Wallaby team can lift the profile again.
Justin, your just another Union cheerleader. No different to Rugbyfuture who also has shown his hand that he hates League, but feels complelled to comment on League threads to bring Union up.
Stick to the subject RUGBY LEAGUE. And we will get along nicely. Sick of Union being mentioned in these threads, it always just starts the code wars again.
Justin said | January 17th 2010 @ 4:12pm | Report comment
DOW – My Lions and WC line was in response to someone claiming nothing had happened in Union in AUS for 10 years. Just corrected them, nothing more.
Believe me I dont care for the code wars rubbish. We all like and dislike different things in life and thank god for that…
Union cheerleader? Nah not good looking enough and South Africa do that best anyway – go to the Sharks RU site for exhibit A!
rugbyfuture said | January 17th 2010 @ 4:21pm | Report comment
DoW i was responding to a comment and we came to a conclusion. i’ll stop commenting on league threads when you and your boys stop commenting on the union threads. The argument was started on a response to a statement that was somewhat unjust and incorrect. If you are to accuse me of butting in all of a sudden with no precedence then you, foxy loxy, springs, crosscoder, mitch and all the rest can do the same and i’ll stay away (although i can’t guarantee anything about siva samoa).
so once again, if you’ll notice here, i didn’t start anything on RU on this thread, i simply responded.
westy said | January 17th 2010 @ 1:27pm | Report comment
The reds v waratahs is a showpiece game for rugby union in Australia. It will be on the Saturday night at Suncorp. it is on one those games that could get a good crossover audience from other codes . In terms of coverage this pre seson rugby league game will diminish some media coverage for what should have been pure oxygen for rugby union..
I am not from QLD. They are not on at the same time are they? I know the All Stars game is on at skilled Stadium but am thinking it is an afternnoon game.
I will watch both on TV and have to admit I have a soft spot for the Indigenous team.
Foxy Loxy said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:45pm | Report comment
“it is on one those games that could get a good crossover audience from other codes”. Please explain? Ratings and crowds suggest you’re talking out of your hat. It’s not even on free to air television and no one has even mentioned it once in the media yet.
MarkH said | January 17th 2010 @ 1:44pm | Report comment
I have a feeling that this game although good etc is devisive. I think the All Stars will in the future play as an individual team and not be apart of the Kangaroos. Coached by none other than Mr Gus ‘I know Boats’ Gould.
Foxy Loxy said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:46pm | Report comment
What? The All Stars aren’t part of the Kangaroos. Give some credit to the public, they can see the difference.
ELL said | January 17th 2010 @ 1:50pm | Report comment
What has Rugby done in the last 10 yrs in this country oh thats right Nothing but go backwards..The game gets no coverage outside pay tv, its laughable.
Seeing as though the All star game is a Sellout and televised on CH 9, the Super 14 attracts nobody from the mid March timeframe cause thats when the NRL and AFL starts in there respective areas.
So keep dreaming of that one day Rugby may have a footy show on CH 9 based around Rugby and that someone may watch your soccer game where ur allowed to pick the ball up and kick it.
Justin said | January 17th 2010 @ 1:56pm | Report comment
A Lions tour and a World Cup ring a bell?
Dogs Of War said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:29pm | Report comment
Did wonders for the game in Australia!
Justin said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:35pm | Report comment
At the time it did, yeah.
Union will be back in AUS. A good year from the Brumbies or god forbid the Tahs will help and then some exciting youngsters in an improving (hopefully) Wallaby team can lift the profile again.
Dogs Of War said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:48pm | Report comment
Given it’s stuck on Pay TV, most of us won’t know.
Justin said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:51pm | Report comment
Like half the AFL and NRL
Dogs Of War said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:54pm | Report comment
Yeah, let’s ignore the other half that isn’t, and brings the majority of the cash in for the NRL. And also gives the game heaps of exposure, and makes it so accessible to anyone interested.
Justin said | January 17th 2010 @ 3:05pm | Report comment
I didnt ignore anything, just pointed out the facts.
Dogs Of War said | January 17th 2010 @ 3:57pm | Report comment
No you didn’t just point out the facts. The facts are Union has a few International matches on Free to Air, for how much longer who knows as they barely rate, and networks are only taking them on now because they hope the Union World Cup will rate.
While AFL and NRL both have 3+ normal matches on Free to Air each week of the season, plus finals etc.
How about this for a fact, Union gets outrated by Toyota Cup matches!
Foxy Loxy said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:54pm | Report comment
You”ll be a long time waiting for another WC to save RU. The WC in Australia pulled crowds but that didn’t translate into growth. The Lions tour is not what it was either. The half empty stands in SA last year proved that.
Justin said | January 17th 2010 @ 3:04pm | Report comment
I think you are dreaming a little – an average of 35k per match for the tour isnt half bad. Packed houses for the Tests.
rugbyfuture said | January 17th 2010 @ 3:09pm | Report comment
first test: kings park | attendance; 47,800 | Capacity; 55,000
second test: Loftus Versfeld Stadium | attendance; 52,500 | Capacity; 52, 500
third test: Coca cola park | attendance; 58,300 | Capacity; 62, 500
Foxy Loxy said | January 17th 2010 @ 3:19pm | Report comment
A Lions tour was meant to be about all the games.
“South Africa, your disrespect for the Lions tour is a disgrace”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ericjanssen/9986497/South_Africa_your_disrespect_for_the_Lions_tour_is_a_disgrace/
So just how will a rugby WC hosted by Australian RU be its saviour and when it will next be here? The 2003 WC left a spiral downwards, not upwards. It’s like RU showed everyone its game and then the public decided it wasn’t worth it.
rugbyfuture said | January 17th 2010 @ 3:27pm | Report comment
fair enough i spose, i wouldn’t be thinking provincial competition against the lions would matter considering at the mediocre times they can thrash the best teams in the world, but i understand your point. the world cup sustained the ARU over three years of turbulent times including full administration changes, the ARU still has $15 million left in the reserve account built through the world cup. the changes that took place in administration of the ARU had a greater effect on how rugby went, with gary flowers put in and JON kicked out at his prime. if they were to gain a world cup or something similar with a stable administration that could follow through it would build the sport.
Foxy Loxy said | January 17th 2010 @ 3:43pm | Report comment
It is the tour games that distinguish it from a normal tour. If the tour games don’t draw, then the Lions tour is not a saviour. But maybe this was just SA and not a new trend for Lions tours. The recent Wallabies and All Blacks tour mid week games were a good success.
Re “if they were to gain a world cup or something similar with a stable administration that could follow through it would build the sport.” That was the same thing everyone said before the 2003 WC. How many WC’s do we have before it becomes accepted as a false hope? Doesn’t really have to be answered as it won’t be for 20 years before the WC comes back here.
So RU’s answers have to be found elsewhere — not via a Lions tour or a WC that won’t come for decades.
rugbyfuture said | January 17th 2010 @ 3:48pm | Report comment
I’d go with that, hopefully from 2011 onwards for us, although im not sure what you leagueys would think…
Pete said | January 17th 2010 @ 2:30pm | Report comment
Its not that hard to sell out a 27,000 seat stadium with the best in the game! I think the Tahs and the Reds will get that at Suncorp. The All Stars should be at Suncorp. Not sure why they aren’t. If Union got in there and booked the stadium before the NRL did someone at the NRL needs some explaining to do. I’m certain that there are more than 27,000 fans wanting to watch this game at the venue. Its pretty poor planning.
In fact its poor planning all round. The ARU and NRL should have talked. All Stars at 6:30pm, the Reds vs Tahs 6:30pm (7:30 Eastern Australian Daylight Savings time). I’m looking forward to both games, morons!
Ken said | January 18th 2010 @ 8:46am | Report comment
Mostly I think the Skilled Park location is that the game was instigated by Michael Searle (with Preston Campbell as the face of the game). No doubt though that the respective crowds would work better if the venues were swapped.
dirk said | January 19th 2010 @ 5:24pm | Report comment
You will need to watch the union to bore you to sleep after the excitement of the League.
Big Kev said | January 29th 2010 @ 8:56am | Report comment
Not starting a code war, we all agree RL is bigger than RU in NSW and Queensland. But do me a favour – Rugby hosted the most successful international sports event ever in Australia bar the 2000 Olympics and the 2003 RWC final was the 2nd highest rating match on Aus TV of all time over 4m (+ about 30m overseas). That is about 1.5m more than any RL match has ever drawn in Aus and probably 32m more than any RL match has ever drawn globally! In addition almost 2m people attended the tournament – and they actually paid for their tickets, from memory over $40 per seat average. I think that results in a bigger total gate than about 5 seasons of the NRL!! Add to that the hugely successful Lions tour and average attendances of over 50,000 for the Wallabies throughout that period and a considerably higher average attendance for Super12/14 than the NRL. I dont think it’s been so bad!
Sam el Perro said | January 29th 2010 @ 9:10am | Report comment
Hi Big Kev. Me again. You know, the guy who points out your falsehoods. Well, here we go again.
“In addition almost 2m people attended the tournament – and they actually paid for their tickets, from memory over $40 per seat average. I think that results in a bigger total gate than about 5 seasons of the NRL!! ”
In 2009 the NRL was attended by 3,084,481. Certainly more than the 400,000 that you have approximated.
“the 2003 RWC final was the 2nd highest rating match on Aus TV of all time over 4m (+ about 30m overseas). That is about 1.5m more than any RL match has ever drawn in Aus”
In 2009 the NRL grand final was watched by 3.6 million people in Australia. That is certainly more than the 2.5 million that you have stated. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/more-people-watched-nrl-grand-final-on-television-than-watched-afl-grand-final/story-e6frexnr-1225783107883
Once again, you deliberately chosen to lie in order to make a point.
Big Kev said | January 29th 2010 @ 3:52pm | Report comment
OK el Pratto let me explain the definition of “total gate”…. as ticket revenue which equals seats sold x $ paid = “gate” – very different from attendance.
Rugby World Cup 2003 Total gate = $200m*
5 seasons of NRL = approx 15m tickets at $12 each** = $180m gate
*http://fulltext.ausport.gov.au/fulltext/2004/feddep/FinalEconomicImpactOfRWC2003.pdf
** my guestimate – hence I wrote “I think”
With regards the TV figures, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-watched_television_broadcasts. I would not sue the Tele for toilet paper.Aplogies if my source is wrong or outdated, my point still stands nitpicker.
Sam el Perro said | January 29th 2010 @ 5:01pm | Report comment
Thank you for completely ignoring the fact that I pointed out that two of your assertions were incorrect. Good debating skills there, son.
big Kev said | January 29th 2010 @ 8:16pm | Report comment
and which assumptions were those prato? I only made one assumption, that being ave ticket price paid for an NRL game and you have not offered anything to suggest this is incorrect. Is $200m not more than $180m or don’t you understand? i can explain it again for you if you like.
I am being generous with 15m attending the NRL over the past 5 years – prob. a million or so less but who cares, total gate (revenue) is still less than $200m.
As for the highest rating live sport – show me a source other than the Tele and I will accept it. It’s still a long way behind the RWC final in 03 and again makes a mockery of ELL’s ridiculous comment, which of course was deemed acceptable by you Pratto.
big Kev said | January 29th 2010 @ 8:24pm | Report comment
shame muppet, you clearly still dont undestand what “total gate” means hence your extremely dumb response…. so I will make it easier for you….
Total gate means “The total paid attendance or admission receipts at a public event: a good gate at the football game.” (see http://www.thefreedictionary.com/gate”
I showed you that my calcs are based on attendance of 15m over 5 seasons for the NRL, yet somehow you are still confused FFS. Get it now?
Dogs Of War said | January 29th 2010 @ 8:38pm | Report comment
$12 into the ground? Cheapest ticket is $15, and that’s behind the goal posts. Most grounds have $35 for a decent seat, with some like Suncorp and the Titans ground being even more expensive.
big Kev said | January 30th 2010 @ 12:13pm | Report comment
My roosters season tickets cost us an average $460 for 10 games for 4 of us… some clubs and tickets will be more expensive, others cheaper. Freebies make up about 10% of all seats I believe. Please let me know if you can find any info on ticket revenue per club.
Sam el Perro said | January 30th 2010 @ 11:25pm | Report comment
Kev, you only seem to accept sources that back up your point of view and ignore or denigrate those that don’t. You then pull figures out of the air (ticket prices) to support an unsupportable argument. When caught out, you resort once more to abuse.
Don’t worry though. I’ll be hanging around for your next falsehoods. See you then.
Big Kev said | February 1st 2010 @ 8:26am | Report comment
ok Pratto so can you give any credible evidence for total gate for an NRL season (you obviously now understand the meaning of the term so perhaps you will now put forward something that makes a little sense)?
I have based my average ticket price on what I pay for my Roosters season ticket while your substantiation is limited to the classic “You then pull figures out of the air (ticket prices) to support an unsupportable argument.” Please explain how;
1. basing the price on what I actually pay is somehow pulled out of the air
2. How my argument is unsupportable.
As usual, you don’t like the message so you shoot the messenger!
Big Kev said | February 1st 2010 @ 8:58am | Report comment
and by the way, Dogs, just looked on Bulldogs site and it is very clearly stated “less than $19 for a family per game” which equates to an average of about $4.75 per person. See
http://www.bulldogs.com.au/default.aspx?s=membership-brochure-bulldogs. Now I know that is the lowest price but I would suggest the bulk of fans are members and many of those are on family tickets.
Even the Broncos Premium White family pass is equivalent to $13.50 per person per game.
The Knights for eg earn about $3m per year from ticket revenue – that equates to $15.6 per ticket based on average attendance of 16,000 for 12 games.
Don’t think I’m far off.
Big Kev said | February 2nd 2010 @ 9:39am | Report comment
typical – i present evidence to back up “unsubstantiated” claims each and every time and you either disappear or somehow try and bend the argument. You are a joke.