How other codes can survive the World Cup
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If the FIFA World Cup comes to Australia during 2018 or 2022, the four football codes could be in for a big dispute, with each other, with FIFA and with the government.
As with every controversy, not everyone comes out pleased.
But here could be a possible solution to keep a few parties happy during the World Cup.
The 12 Stadiums that could probably be used for the FIFA World Cup are:
- Adelaide Oval
- ANZ Stadium
- Canberra Stadium
- Cararra Stadium (Gold Coast)
- Central Cost Stadium (Gosford)
- Dairy Farmers Stadium
- Energy Australia Stadium
- Melbourne Cricket Ground
- Melbourne Rectangular Stadium
- New Perth Stadium
- Suncorp Stadium
- Sydney Football Stadium
Of course, for the FIFA World Cup, all the venues would need to be upgraded. Every one of them. A very severe upgrade, as well.
You will notice Ethiad Stadium has been left out. This is due to the AFL desperately needing a fairly big venue to play at.
FIFA regulations are very strict. They do not allow for the stadiums to be used during the World Cup. Melbourne would need to sacrifice that stadium to please the AFL loving population, which crowds the Melbourne area.
Midweek games during the NRL, AFL, Super 15, would all have to be explored to ensure that the major stadiums are being shared. Who knows? The 500,000 plus people who come to visit Australia might decide to check a game or two out during the week.
NRL teams in NSW will have to revert to other venues.
The SCG is a certainty, Sydney Showgrounds is an alternative venue, Belmore Stadium, Concord Oval … These stadiums too would have to undergo an upgrade to ensure that the needs of the fans are met.
For example, temporary seating, and more staff on hand to scan the tickers, and temporary food and drink outlets. As well as lighting.
It is not ideal, but it is how it needs to be done for about eight weeks.
NRL teams in Queensland will be allowed a slightly better deal.
North QLD Cowboys could play at a re-developed Stockland Park at the Sunshine Coast for a few matches. This would need to be developed into a stadium to cater for about 20,000. This upgrade is already on the cards for the next ten years.
Gold Coast Titans would not be affected in all of this, because Skilled Park would not be used for the World Cup. The Brisbane Broncos have really three alternatives: that is to play their games at QSAC (former ANZ Stadium) or to play games at Ballymore or possibly the Gabba.
For AFL, Ethiad Stadium would need to be made available, as well as taking the game to places like Geelong (Skilled Stadium). A lot of games would have to be held at Docklands.
If FIFA were to take Ethiad, the AFL would be very hard to go ahead.
The new Super 15 competition is set to be going until July.
This competition couldn’t be shortened due to the Rugby World Cup the next year and its International status. Games in Melbourne, NSW, Queensland, and possibly ACT would be affected by this quite severely.
If the MRS was to be selected, there would be very big problems.
Melbourne have no real alternatives, as Ethiad would be solely based for AFL games as they desperately need the ground.
Melbourne has no other stadium that would cater for the Rebels.
Sydney Football Stadium could not be used, so one would think the possibility of Concord Oval or the SCG would be explored. Concord is ideal for rugby, but lacks the facilities, while the SCG is round in shape and doesn’t provide the best view for the fans.
Queensland has Ballymore, but the stadium is dying a slow death, thanks to the Queensland Government.
An immediate upgrade to cater for this would certainly be needed as the Broncos could possibly play there as well as the Reds.
It is only about a ten minute drive away from Suncorp Stadium.
The stadium would probably need about 15,000 seats or even the more if they wanted to have the possibility of hosting a State of Origin match.
If Canberra were to receive hosting status, Manuka Oval would be explored. However, it is far from being fit to host a Super 15 rugby game.
Viking Oval would also be an option, with temporary seating, and lighting a priority.
State of Origin would have to explore a few options: delaying it a few weeks to go for the traditional rotating system of one game in Sydney, and one in Brisbane. Move one game overseas to say New Zealand, one game in Melbourne at Eithiad, and one game in Brisbane or Sydney.
Sydney and Brisbane missing out on a game is rubbish, I agree.
But with SFS, and ANZ Stadium, and Suncorp being only available to the World Cup, only it makes it incredibly difficult to fit the schedule.
The Gabba could potentially hold it, but its lack of capacity and its oval shape makes it difficult.
The Wallabies mid-year tests which are played annually would have to be moved overseas. You could not, for example, play a team like France at Skilled Park. It couldn’t be given the go ahead, because so much more money is to be made overseas for that game.
I think what the FFA needs to acknowledge, as well as the Government, is that they cannot put our sporting codes out of business for the eight weeks while the FIFA World Cup is occurring.
Answers need to be sought immediately, because a lot of codes could be left out to dry while the FFA becomes premier.
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rugbyfuture said | January 19th 2010 @ 1:42am | Report comment
the super 15 could certainly use concord oval, ballymore, me bank stadium, canberra or manuka depending, melbourne universities grounds for melburne with temp upgrades based on your template.
andrewMc said | January 19th 2010 @ 2:23am | Report comment
As a country Vic AFL fan, I was offended when Andrew D said the AFL would have to stop functioning for a season if it couldn’t use Melbourne and its two stadiums. The FIFA world cup is an extraordinary opportunity for the AFL to reward some of its truest and most die-hard fans in the country. Collingwood v Carlton in Ballarat, North v Richmond in Sale, Essendon v Port Adelaide in Port Augusta, Crows v Demons in Broken Hill. These would be huge events for these places and would enshrine AFL in these regions forever. Lets face it, this is a once in a century event, and the AFL owes something to its country fans. Why not use this opportunity.
I don’t know much about Rugby league, but I do know if you walk into a bar in Dubbo and mention to an old-timer the words ‘Amco cup’ or in Tumut mention the words ‘Maher cup’, you wont leave the bar until closing time the next morning. Country games are an option the NRL could look at too
Tom said | January 19th 2010 @ 4:18am | Report comment
Cant see it ever happening – rightly or wrongly, the AFL would prefer the year off and accepting cash compensation than attempting to organise a season of sending Collingwood and Carlton to Ballarat or North Melbourne playing six ‘home’ games in Adelaide etc.
Anyway – as for the 12 stadiums listed in the article, you can remove the ‘new perth stadium.’ It has been in the planning stage since at least 1999 with at least a dozen models and locations scouted. Finally, it was determined in 2008 that it would be built next door to the current Subiaco Oval (a big mistake in my mind) by 2014. That plan, as poor as it is, has now been postponed indefinately and will likely be scrapped completely. Im not convinced Perth will have a new stadium by 2022. Pathetic but thats WA for you…
Mister Football said | January 19th 2010 @ 6:59am | Report comment
….also Adelaide Oval and Canberra Stadium are far from done deals.
Mr said | January 19th 2010 @ 8:17am | Report comment
andrewMc you speak a lot of sense with that post. For 8 weeks, RL & AFL going country would be unforgettable for the fans. In country NSW the City/Country matches are well attended, and often RL teams play their pre-season matches in the bush.
Michael C said | January 19th 2010 @ 8:18pm | Report comment
Really?? Carlton vs Collingwood – with a combined 100,000 members – in Ballarat???
best you could hope for would be North vs Freo and Port vs GWS.
The AFL couldn’t not function over 8 weeks if denied Docklands along with the MCG,
cos, remember, the author has suggested RL and RU at the SCG…..problem is, the AFL is Australia wide, and, they need the SCG, and the NRL has to find venues too and…..well, quite simply, if were JUST one of the AFL or the NRL, perhaps – - but, for BOTH to be impacted thusly (and we still don’t know about whether the FFA has even raised the topic of host city exclusions with FIFA yet).
basically – a ‘country’ round……maybe 1. Maybe. But, not for 8 weeks.
Chuq said | January 20th 2010 @ 7:48am | Report comment
“The AFL couldn’t not function over 8 weeks if denied Docklands along with the MCG,”
And once again..
http://users.on.net/~chuq/img/wc/afl-2022-v2.png
Michael C said | January 21st 2010 @ 8:38pm | Report comment
A good effort -
but, you’ve allocated Docklands to FFA – -
such that where do Collingwood, Hawthorn, Carlton, Richmond, Essendon play??? Or are we going to get Kardinia park increased to 60,000 capacity??
Midfielder said | January 19th 2010 @ 8:07am | Report comment
Gosford cannot be expanded to the required size…
But the WC only needs 9 or 10 stadiums they say 12 and then pick the best 9 or 10… from your list I would rule out Gosford as I said its location next to a railway line and roads means it cannot be expanded or very little, I would say Adelaide Oval will not get the final nod as it is an oval when rectangular stadiums are available…
I also think that it is touch and go whether Melbourne expand Swan street and that Dairy Farmers is last on the list if other ovals are available…
My List @ 9 stadiums..
QLD — 2
Suncorp
Gold Coast (Rectangular stadium) expanded
NSW 4 combined total to date 6
Newcastle expanded
Aussie Stadium
Homebush Bay
Cam/town or Bl/town (new to be built)
ACT 1 combined total to date 7
New Stadium
VIC 1 combined total to date 8
MCG
This leaves 4 or maybe 5 options for the final stadium … if FIFA go for 10 stadiums 2 must be picked..
In no order
North Queensland
Swan Street Melbourne
Adelaide Oval
Perth
The final option is the NSW have also offered to expand or rebuild actually the stadium in Woollongong.
My guess is Melbourne will want an extra spot so Swan Street will be expanded … this will help RU bring test matches to Melbourne as well.
Perth is interesting with a Football side a RU side and sooner or latter a RL side … they may be tempted to expand Perth Glory’s home to meet the demand and get a WC host city gig … however because 9 stadiums can be used IMO they will only use the 9 I have listed…
The most interesting development in the WC stadium bid is what will happen to homebush… from 82 K to 93K … under a clear roof and a rectangular stadium… a former mate from my constructions days tells me they will build about 35, 000 new seats and get rid of 24, 000 other seats …. making it one of the best rectangular stadiums in the world…
Mr said | January 19th 2010 @ 8:22am | Report comment
Perth have the plans to renovate MES for the rectangle codes. It would bring Socceroos, Wallabies and RL matches to the Perth pubic.
The Swan St expansion appears problematic. If Adelaide decide on the Parklands Rectangle CBD Stadium, then I would suggest Melbourne will have a single venue.
Chuq said | January 19th 2010 @ 8:37am | Report comment
http://users.on.net/~chuq/img/wc/afl-2022-2.png
That wasn’t too hard now was it?
Can be shifted forward 2-4 weeks if playing in February (weather wise) is a problem.
VooDoo said | January 21st 2010 @ 6:49am | Report comment
You’ve gone to a lot of effort, but the argument is circular – there are a lot of people who don’t want the AFL season to break mid-season for the better part of two months, which your draw encourages with split rounds.
Davstar said | January 19th 2010 @ 9:38am | Report comment
I’m just going to say what everyone’s thinking if the WC comes to Australia it could have the capacity to turn Football into the number one sport just like it did in Korea. AFL and NRL know that and are afraid after seeing how much the nation united after the last world cup that’s why they were “opening bottles of champagne every time Australia failed to qualify.” Too many young kids play football its seen as less dangerous the other codes with the A-league giving kids something local to believe in rival codes know this could really destroy their stronghold over sport in Australia.
I’m not talking with any bias im just saying the facts they can complain all they want but if the World cup come to Australia Football will do alot of damage to them long after the WC finishes.
True Tah said | January 19th 2010 @ 9:44am | Report comment
Im not sure if futbol overtook baseball in sport ranks in Korea, but its a moot point as the most popular sport in Korea is……………Starcraft, yes it is classified as a sport in Korea!
Interestingly you didnt mention the USA or Japan.
Futbol has been the no. 1 participation sport for young kids since the First Fleet arrived….pretty much every male in Australia has been a registered futbol player at some point, Australia has well over 2m registered futbol players…yet this has not affected the NRL or the AFL.
Simmo said | January 19th 2010 @ 10:32am | Report comment
As a futbol fan I fail to see exactly how the sport can suddenly skyrocket to No1. It’s a bit of a pipe dream IMO.
Which makes me wonder why some people (who shall remain nameless but write frequent articles about why Australia should not host the WC) are so bent out of shape by the prospect?
I think it’s not about the impact on the status quo, but the potential impact on the ambitions held by those same people. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the people who complain most loudly about the WC are the same people who are evangelical about AFL’s spread across the world and NSW.
It’s not RU fans who are complaining loudly. And it’s not really the mungoes either. It’s the evangelical AFL cadre. I don’t think they see any risk to the AFL’s position in Melbourne. I think this is about overshadowing the risky new venture in Sydney.
Redb said | January 19th 2010 @ 10:42am | Report comment
That’s just a gross generalisation.
I’m right into the AFL’s international efforts but have become very bored with the whole WC stuff because it passed being a reasonable debate yonks ago. Expecting Demetriou to be burned in effigy at some point.
It’s very simple, Etihad to AFL, Bubble dome to WC. End of story thanks for coming, roll out the pitches, set out the posts and nets and lets get on with it FFS.
Redb
MV Dave said | January 19th 2010 @ 1:59pm | Report comment
“It’s very simple, Etihad to AFL, Bubble dome to WC. End of story thanks for coming, roll out the pitches, set out the posts and nets and lets get on with it FFS.” Agreed, hurry up May 2010 (after that it wont matter who complains the bid will be done and dusted (not to say some fine details wont be adjusted later on should the bid be successful).
Footbal Person said | January 26th 2010 @ 1:31pm | Report comment
If we don’t get the cup im blaming him and building the effigy.
True Tah said | January 19th 2010 @ 10:45am | Report comment
Simmo
as a RU fan, the WC bid is perhaps our best chance of getting fair dinkum rectangular stadiums in WA, Tasmania and SA. And I guess given that our “domestic comp” is effectively a pseudo international, it probably wouldnt make too much disruption to that either, as we could structure the season accordingly.
Lazza said | January 19th 2010 @ 10:54am | Report comment
They’re going with Adelaide Oval here instead of building a multi-purpose stadium that everyone wanted. It’s all about local state politics so I won’t bore you with the reasons why.
Adelaide Oval will be temporarily re-configured if we win the World Cup but Rugby/Football will still only have Hindmarsh in Adelaide as a proper rectangular stadium. I saw the Rugby WC at Adelaide Oval and it’s just as bad as watching Football. It’s just too far from the action and the atmosphere suffers as well.
Mr said | January 19th 2010 @ 12:13pm | Report comment
The Riverside Precinct proposed by the LIbs is pretty decent, it ought to transcend politics. But as you have alluded, it won’t happen – another waster opportunity for Adelaide.
Here is some vision of what might have been;
http://www.isobelredmond.com.au/News/Videos/VideoPlayer/TabId/73/VideoId/11/The-Liberals-Vision-For-Riverside.aspx
Jeb said | January 19th 2010 @ 2:04pm | Report comment
not sure what your point is tru tar as in all the years since the first fleet arrived we’ve yet to host a wc.
love the passive aggression of calling it futbol, because like you know we can’t call it wogball anymore.
VooDoo said | January 21st 2010 @ 6:55am | Report comment
“Pretty much every male in Australia has been a registered futbol player at some point.”
You’d have to be kidding, right? I grew up in country Victoria, and our city (Warrnambool – the state’s fifth largest regional centre) didn’t even have a soccer club. Outside of phys ed classes, soccer wasn’t on the radar. Even today, nearly every community worth the name has a footy and cricket club, yet soccer clubs are few and far between in the country. Yours has to be one of the most hyperbolic comments on this thread.
True Tah said | January 21st 2010 @ 7:02am | Report comment
May I make an amendment, Im not a Victorian, but this is certainly the case in NSW.
Pretty much every single guy I know who played rugby or follows rugby started his sporting life as a junior futbol player.
Now having said that, the odd thing is most guys I know who are real futbol heads have never played the game or stopped have playing until their early teens.
Punter said | January 21st 2010 @ 7:09am | Report comment
I’m a football head, have been since I was 5 years old, when I played my first game. I played till my late twenties & started playing again in the last 5 years & now also coaching.
I followed the mighty Dragons as my local team until 5 years ago & now I’m passionate for Sydney FC only. Still do watch the odd dragons game, but was surprised how us choking again didn’t really affect me.
Michael C said | January 21st 2010 @ 7:41am | Report comment
along with Voodoo –
I grew up down near Sale, and even with a (bigger than now) RAAF base which ensured that there was a healthy number of interstate ‘expats’ to populate a Rugby club and there was a soccer club in town and with all the ‘new Australians’ in the Latrobe Valley to build up the Morwell Falcons Soccer club – - the actual number of kids who played soccer full stop ever was minimal. Soccer was available. Soccer from the UK was on tele just about more than footy was.
And then of course the old Vickick grew into Auskick and away you go. Now, it’s nice hearing NSW based cricket commentators talking about their sons who play cricket who also tend now to be playing footy (probably because of the common facilities – it’s been a symbiotic – not always perfectly balanced – relationship everywhere else since the 1850s!!!).
MV Dave said | January 21st 2010 @ 8:11am | Report comment
” the actual number of kids who played soccer full stop ever was minimal. Soccer was available. Soccer from the UK was on tele just about more than footy was.” Sokkah on TV more than AFL??? You have to be joking. l lived in Traralgon for 2 years and apart from an English game delayed by a week at midnight on a Sat or some NSL on SBS, Sokkah wasnt mentioned on TV.
The facts are that the numbers of Sokkah players in country areas has grown massively in the last decade or so with regional and club teams/leagues becoming more commonplace in the larger rural centres. FFV have done an excellent job in this area.
True Tah said | January 21st 2010 @ 8:19am | Report comment
MVDave
the one thing futbol has had in Australia that no other sport had was SBS. I dont recall any other FTA stations ever being synomymous with a sport as SBS was (and indeed still is) with futbol.
Some argue that SBS may hold back futbol coverage these days, but the fact was a government-backed television channel gave a massive boost to the sport.
Redb said | January 21st 2010 @ 8:21am | Report comment
That’s a very good point TT.
Punter said | January 21st 2010 @ 8:26am | Report comment
TT,
I think you will find Channel 9 & cricket has the same relationship & you could argue that AFL & Channel 7 as well.
The only difference being that both Channel 9 & 7 were commercial stations & not only provided these sports with FTA TV, they provided the sports huge sum of money for it’s right. This is something SBS could never do.
MV Dave said | January 21st 2010 @ 9:23am | Report comment
The problem with SBS was that many people particularly in the country couldn’t get it (reception issues). l think this has only been overcome in the last decade or so. Not that many in the country would have wanted to watch SBS. Even in the city its reception was very poor in certain areas for a long time.
Towser said | January 19th 2010 @ 9:52am | Report comment
Davstar
The WC, if it comes to Australia & reading this article there are doubts,
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/blogs/halftimeorange/qatars-cunning-stymies-australias-bid-prospects-279667
wiil be icing on the cake. Unless the cake is well baked beforehand, thats all it is. Signs are positive however in this respect,so in my book the WC would only add momentum to footballs progress.
In other words it wouldnt be the main reason for progession, but a glorification of the forward steps made since Frank Lowy took over.
AndyRoo said | January 19th 2010 @ 9:59am | Report comment
I think it would turn the Socceroos into the number one national team, that would be about it but that in itself is a huge achievement as the cricket team is very much established in the media. People say they are now already and that’s true on some measures but you only have to pick up a newspaper during summer too see there is a way to go.
People already know about the World Cup I don’t think it’s the same as 15 years ago when I felt most people didn’t seem to understand the scale. Finishing second at the confederation cup was derided as poor when compared to the cricket team winning a test series.
And I am very confident baseball is still the main game in Japan and Korea.
Jannerboyuk said | January 19th 2010 @ 10:54am | Report comment
If football is the number one sport in korea it doesnt say much that in a country of 45million people the k-league attendances are:
“At the end of the 2007 season, the K-League attracted 2,073,808 fans and an average of 11,786 fans per game” according to wiki at least.”
Baseball is not far behind with a 10k ave, and with an aggregate attendance of 5million. The world cup has hardly blown them out of the water
jimbo said | January 19th 2010 @ 1:31pm | Report comment
Average attendance for the South African Premier League in 2008/09 was 7,658 and they are hosting a world cup.
Attendances at local competition games is not the only measure of a sports popularity.
Simmo said | January 19th 2010 @ 2:16pm | Report comment
Particularly for povo countries (South Africa not south Korea).
Footbal Person said | January 26th 2010 @ 1:32pm | Report comment
Povo ?
Springs said | January 19th 2010 @ 12:13pm | Report comment
Naion united. Pfft. I highly doubt all NRL and AFL fans united because the socceroos won one game. Soccer will not be number 1, it’s the same as saying Union will take over League because of the Rugby World Cup.
jimbo said | January 19th 2010 @ 1:42pm | Report comment
Football already is the number one football code in terms of
number of clubs and players,
participation rates,
record transfer fees,
record salaries,
record FTA TV ratings in Australia
record payTV ratings in Australia
record international TV ratings
Redb said | January 19th 2010 @ 1:52pm | Report comment
participation – yes.
crowds – nowhere near it.
Free to air TV ratings for a season – nowhere near it.
Salary cap for teams – no
Media interest? – no
Paid club membership – nowhere near it
Some one -off TV ratings on FTA and pay TV for the Socceroos – parochial driven, not for the game.
Look at A League crowds, TV ratings, etc.
Look at NSL crowds TV ratings,etc.
It is not the number one football code for fans in Australia.
jimbo said | January 19th 2010 @ 10:42pm | Report comment
redb,
Socceroos crowds average 45K, AFL crowds average 37K
Socceroos games are “parochial and one off” and don’t count?
Please explain.
Redb said | January 20th 2010 @ 7:00am | Report comment
There are 176 AFL games creating that average, how many Socceroo games are there?
Michael C said | January 20th 2010 @ 10:30am | Report comment
the fairer comparison is Socceroos matches vs AFL finals vs NRL finals/SoO,
and on that count, the Socceroos pretty tame.
Last year, 9 AFL finals averaged 68K +.
vs 6 Socceroos games spread around the country avg’d 42K.
Hmmmmm……..and the next step back, AFL 176 H&A matches at mid 30s vs HAL V5 80% complete rattling along at sub 10s. Daylight and the NRL between.
Lazza said | January 19th 2010 @ 3:24pm | Report comment
The issue is not whether Football will become a major sport or number one in Australia. The fear that a lot of other fans have is that their sport will decline and die off as a result?
Pretty silly really but since most are only used to following one sport they have trouble seeing it any other way.
chief said | January 19th 2010 @ 9:55am | Report comment
FFA have said they are keen to take the WC to North Queensland because of the Great Barrier Reef. AFL could explore the option of taking weeks off. I personally don’t think Australia has enough room for the FIFA World Cup.
jimbo said | January 19th 2010 @ 10:44pm | Report comment
Reason Number 123 for not staging a FIFA World Cup in Australia: Australia doesn’t have enough room.
Lazza said | January 19th 2010 @ 10:17am | Report comment
“If FIFA were to take Ethiad, the AFL would be very hard to go ahead.”
I think you mean FFA not FIFA. FIFA invite nations to bid if they’re interested in hosting the world’d biggest sporting event. If not, they’ll have plenty of other takers. It’s up to us to bid for and organise the event.
I agree with the comments above – a lot of the objections to the WC are just based on fear that Football/Socceroos will become number one in Australia if we host this event. That makes it hard to distinguish the valid arguments and concerns from all the other nonsense that’s come out recently. I find it hard to believe that we can’t organise this ‘once in a lifetime’ event and accomodate the other codes as well. Everyone just has to compromise a bit.
AJ said | January 19th 2010 @ 1:54pm | Report comment
my understanding was that the bidder supplies a list of prospective stadia from which FIFA then selects its preferred venues.
Michael C said | January 20th 2010 @ 10:10am | Report comment
does FIFA dictate the venues for the finals??
i.e. if both Homebush and MCG are presented – would FIFA have the final say??
Ken said | January 19th 2010 @ 3:34pm | Report comment
I disagree on the motivation that you’ve put forward. To put a context around my position I’m a rugby league supporter who is ambivalent about soccer, it doesn’t interest me but I have no problems with it’s supporters wanting to get the ultimate competition in their sport here. On many levels I think it would be cool to have such a big event hosted here.
However I did get a bit cold on the idea when details started coming out where it seemed to be expected that the other codes (far more established here) should simply get out of the way at great expense to themselves for 6-8 weeks in the middle of their seasons. Granted no-one (well not many…) will applaud the NRL/AFL if they block it for the sake of it but you can’t expect them to voluntarily disappear for the sake of soccer either. I’m sure there’s concessions that could be made on both sides to make it all work but if the soccer bosses can’t acknowledge that they are asking for some huge favours then I don’t think it’s going to happen.
MV Dave said | January 19th 2010 @ 3:40pm | Report comment
Good post Ken and l’m Football (Sokkah) through and through. You are spot on re the consultations between the various parties and thats exactly what will occur…forget all this fear and misinformation about the foreign code Sokkah and its WC.
Michael C said | January 21st 2010 @ 8:20pm | Report comment
MV Dave -
and haven’t some of us from the outset pointed out that if FIFA and by extension the FFA are completely intractable – then, no deal. There MUST be some concession. And to expect otherwise is naive or expectant of political/legislative railroading on a scale not seen other than during time of war!!!!
btw – don’t forget – the ‘fear’ and ‘misinformation’ started in Fairfax from soccer journo’s back in October. So, you can’t blame the ignorant NRL and AFL media for believing people like Michael Cockerill and Michael Lynch.
Midfielder said | January 19th 2010 @ 10:27am | Report comment
Tow
The Qtar bid has gone almost tho without much looking… I don’t think they have any chance of winning but they could take Australia out in the early rounds of the vote counting…
Mr said | January 19th 2010 @ 10:48am | Report comment
Midfielder, my view is that both Qatar & South Korea have bids in with a view to compromises and horse-trading before the vote.
True Tah said | January 19th 2010 @ 10:54am | Report comment
Midfielder, it would be a sad day if Qatar ever got the FIFA WC ahead of Australia, I hope you are right when you say they have no chance of winning.
Forgetmenot said | January 19th 2010 @ 11:08am | Report comment
An alright summary.
Did i miss the places where you were discussing where the football would be played in all the other states?
I think AAMI in Adelaide, Aurora in Tassie, WACA in WA, Gabba in QLD, SCG in NSW….
As well as some regional venues like Albury, Bendigo etc
Al said | January 19th 2010 @ 11:33am | Report comment
Why should the FFA actually care about other codes?
Mister Football said | January 19th 2010 @ 11:35am | Report comment
Alternatively, why should the AFL care about the FFA?
Afterall, it’s the FFA that wants something for nothing, not the other way round.
Forgetmenot said | January 19th 2010 @ 1:15pm | Report comment
Australia will not be hosting a soccer world cup if the ffa does not negotiate with the other codes who hold the stadium rights during that time of year.
Ken said | January 19th 2010 @ 3:36pm | Report comment
Because they need huge favours from them if they want to host a world cup in Australia