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There was a curious piece of television on SBS’ The World Game program on Sunday and I’m not just talking about the awkward yet hilarious piece of producing that left host David Basheer blushing 4:43 into this segment.
During Les Murray’s Football Focus, Les and Craig Foster took a look at Australia’s defence and in particular the centre back pairing.
It was astonishing to hear that thirteen different combinations have been used in that position by coach Pim Verbeek in his 26 games in charge of the Socceroos.
When Murray and Foster were considering playing options for the position, Eddy Bosnar’s name came up. They also pondered why Bosnar has never been selected during Pim Verbeek’s tenure and it’s a good question.
Now, there have been a lot of misconceptions about Bosnar right throughout his career. For starters, there are those who think Bosnar is arrogant and has an over-inflated opinion of himself.
Meanwhile, the lumbering defender’s supporters tend to hold him in some kind of imaginary regard as a flawless footballer without having ever seen him play.
As my fellow Roar colleague Mike Tuckerman has written a number of times, Bosnar is prone to the occasional lapse in concentration. The thing is, and this is where Bosnar challenges his doubters, the former Everton defender will readily admit to them.
I spent an afternoon with Bosnar in Tokyo last year, and during that time, he came across as both a generous and decent bloke.
For what it’s worth, there is a perception amongst English journalists that despite them being, rich footballers are tight. Well. I’ve found that not to be true for Australian footballers in Europe who always seem determined to pick up the bill and give you lifts around town.
Bosnar was no exception. But I digress.
At the time, both on and off the record, the then JEf United Chiba defender was honest about his football talents and what he could offer the Socceroos. He knew he was never going to go to a World Cup, but if he could help the team in some way, he’d be willing.
It’s no secret that Bosnar wasn’t happy with how things ended with the Socceroos back during Frank Farina’s time in charge. But why would that have an effect now?
I suspect the answer might be Farina’s old mate, assistant coach Graham Arnold.
Bosnar has never mentioned anything about Arnold, but a couple other former Socceroos have. Over the last few months two separate former players have said to me in private that they don’t ever expect to make it back into the national team because they’ve had problems with Arnold.
Jesse Fink wrote about the issue recently for The World Game. Other then making a nice little South Park reference, Fink was alarmed by Neil Kilkenny’s absence from any national team squad since he fell out with Arnold during the Olyroos insipid campaign at the Beijing Olympics.
Seeing as Kilkenny recently bossed Manchester United’s midfield around the park, it’s a valid point.
As Fink wrote, “the Socceroos are stacked with options (in Kilkenny’s position) and this could theoretically explain his continued freezing out from the national team. But I’m not buying it.
“Kilkenny’s playing regular first-team football. Yes, for a League One team, but that hasn’t stopped Kisnorbo or Chris Coyne (at Colchester) before him from getting opportunities with the Socceroos.
“And table-topping Leeds, barring calamity, are on their way back to the Championship next season and, after that, possibly the Premiership.
“Are Kilkenny’s talents really that superfluous that he’s not even in the mix for World Cup selection?”
As Arnold has always been the linkman between the players and the coaching staff, as well as the man who sets up and conducts sessions at training, it would make sense that those ‘Arnie’ doesn’t fancy, won’t get a look in.
We might not be talking about world-beaters, but they are players who could help come March’s game against Indonesia. We’ve never heard from Arnold on the issue, but the players on the outer certainly feel like they’ve become “Arnie’s outcasts”.
If they’re right, then it’s a pity that the Socceroos’ squad selections still aren’t exempt from the politics that has dogged the national team for so long.
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Vince said | January 20th 2010 @ 7:05am | Report comment
I am sure GA is a nice enough bloke but what staggers me (and probably a lot of others) is how he has managed to stay so involved in the FFA National Team Coaching set up especially after the Olympics/Asian Cup debacles.
I am all for making sure Australians are part of the coaching system to learn from their more experience overseas bosses but surely talent has to be evident to make the exercise worthwhile?
I believe that GA should go overseas and coach for a few years and then come back as he will have both the expertise and experience to gain the respect of the players etc – can’t see him doing it though as he is very much in a good paddock at the moment,
Punter said | January 20th 2010 @ 8:01am | Report comment
My sentiments exactly, fromall accounts a nice bloke, played the good guy / bad guy with Guus, during his reign. But if after his performances Olympics/Asian debacles that he has any say (Kilkenny, Bosnar) in the Socceroos selections, it’s all wrong.
The position of CCM is the perfect role for him to see how much he has learnt from Pim & Guus.
Hammer said | January 20th 2010 @ 8:57am | Report comment
100% agree – I often wonder how the hell he’s still involved …
whiskeymac said | January 20th 2010 @ 7:57am | Report comment
agree vince -the more coaches trained and schooled o/s the better. we expect it of our best players, why not the coaches too.
people not in the team blaming GA for not getting a game sounds a lot like sour grapes and blaming someone else for their situation. i hope that’s all there is too it.
Bosnar a bit like ljubic? maybe these guys cld have done something for the roos, and certainly have played at a higher level than say North has, but can the coach gamble on their alleged temperaments (bosnars disciplinary record suggests he wld be liability maybe?). the issue isnt whether he buys you a coffee and smiles at your jokes but whether the coach can rely on them not to get sent off or do a neill versus italia. plus their ages suggest they are not the future. kilkenny is. but kilkenny wld replace who exactly in the squad? like burns and bouzanis and ruky – these younger guys shd concentrate on their clubs now and have an eye open for 2014 -new coach, more experience etc and the incumbents retiring.
Aljay said | January 20th 2010 @ 8:32am | Report comment
Bosnar’s case is an interesting one, starting with him publically stating he would never play for the Socceroos while Frankie was in charge after getting dropped by text. But one point worth mentioning is that he has made himself available for Croatia too, but has never looked like getting pcked for them either. Maybe he’s just not that good?
markwakefield said | January 20th 2010 @ 8:52am | Report comment
arnold is a disease aust football needs to rid itself of…
Australian Football said | January 20th 2010 @ 9:06am | Report comment
If you are good enough to play in the J-League then you are at the very least good enough to be invited into the ROO’s training camp for a reassessment… And what of Michael Twaite he has been a rock for the GCUFC and had played for the ROOS in the Hiddink days and played with distinction..
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AndyRoo said | January 20th 2010 @ 9:32am | Report comment
Thwaite was fantastic against Sydney FC but as a defensive midfielder which we have quite a few names in contention. I expect him to be involved against indonesia.
I think Sasha O was unlucky not to be involved when the team played Korea in Korea. That I think is due to a falling out with Pim though.
Rellum said | January 20th 2010 @ 4:16pm | Report comment
Sasha O distribution from the back is pathetic, he seems to think any pass less than 60m is not really worth the effort. His aggression and tackling style, love so much by the Den, would see result fouls and cards pile up at the international level.
No thanks on Sasha O from me, for what it’s worth.
Mick said | January 20th 2010 @ 9:11am | Report comment
If I remeber correctly GA contract finishes this year, in which case it would make 1 of my sporting highlights of 2010
Vince said | January 20th 2010 @ 9:14am | Report comment
Knowing our luck, they will resign him just in time for him to lead us to another superb Asian Cup campaign
Ben of Phnom Penh said | January 20th 2010 @ 11:46am | Report comment
I’ve seen Eddie playing for Chiba a few times and he does suffer from brain fades at times however at the end of the day we have better prospects in that position. I’d hardly lay the blame for this one at GA’s feet.
Kilkenny is a much more interesting one, as is James Wesolowski and to a lesser extent Chris Herd. I’m hoping that these are names which start getting jockeyed about when Qatar 2011 comes around.
Nathan Burns seems to be finding his feet in Greece as well which is good.
Lu said | January 20th 2010 @ 12:14pm | Report comment
Isn’t selection headaches and politics what we’ve all longed for? It comes with the terrorrity when one enters the international scene.
For too long we were stuck in the international wilderness, so we never even had to think about such problems..
But every national team in the world has dilemas like this. To try and fit so many talented players into your squad, and Football isn’t even the most popular sport in australia. Imagine Brazils headaches???… lol
Joe FC said | January 20th 2010 @ 4:18pm | Report comment
-”every national team in the world has dilemas like this”- So very true Lu. We do not live in a Holywood dream factory.
Davstar said | January 20th 2010 @ 12:38pm | Report comment
GA should coach Perth Glory his not a terrable coach his just not good enough for international standards i reckon the A-league would suit him .
Axelv said | January 20th 2010 @ 3:56pm | Report comment
except I don’t think that Graham Arnold suits the A-League!
Rellum said | January 20th 2010 @ 4:18pm | Report comment
Then he would have to front the media and answer questions.
Brian said | January 20th 2010 @ 12:57pm | Report comment
Arnold has bever been a successful coach, so for him to be involved for so long is concerning. Hopefully with the HAL in season 5 the next assisstants will have to prove themeselves domestically before getting such poisitions. When the contract expires hopefully a Vidmar or Merrick or McKenna can step in . Someone who knows the HAL and has proven themselves at least reasonably competent