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	<title>Comments on: Melbourne Heart and Rebels: A tale of two franchises</title>
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		<title>By: Australian Football</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/02/01/melbourne-heart-and-rebels-a-tale-of-two-franchises/comment-page-4/#comment-290626</link>
		<dc:creator>Australian Football</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Westy,
One of my biggest gripes was when Jack Gibson changed the nick name on Newtown RL club from Newtown Blue Bags to the Newtown Jets...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Westy,<br />
One of my biggest gripes was when Jack Gibson changed the nick name on Newtown RL club from Newtown Blue Bags to the Newtown Jets&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Westy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Westy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reckon the supporters group shouldve been &quot;The Rebel Alliance&quot;
at least they can get a couple of headlines/saying from the nickname...
still better than some of the headlines ive heard from melbourne heart...

I reckon that the heart name is kinda weird. arent nicknames supposed to be &#039;threatning&#039; or something, but, just my opinion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reckon the supporters group shouldve been &#8220;The Rebel Alliance&#8221;<br />
at least they can get a couple of headlines/saying from the nickname&#8230;<br />
still better than some of the headlines ive heard from melbourne heart&#8230;</p>
<p>I reckon that the heart name is kinda weird. arent nicknames supposed to be &#8216;threatning&#8217; or something, but, just my opinion</p>
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		<title>By: rugbyfuture</title>
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		<dc:creator>rugbyfuture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well somebody obviously doesnt appreciate monty python and took my post down regarding the people&#039;s front of judea</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well somebody obviously doesnt appreciate monty python and took my post down regarding the people&#8217;s front of judea</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, A-League clubs do not give away free tickets to regular matches.

There are occasional promotions with free tickets, but those generally rely on existing tickets example:

Adelaide had a promotion where each member/season ticket holder could pick one night to bring 4 friends along for free.

Sydney FC did a double-header type deal when buying a ticket to a match got free entry to a second match (iirc, it was buy a ticket for Adelaide, get free entry to the Central Coast match).

I believe North Queensland have a policy of allowing free entry to children under 16 for free with any adult ticket.

But to suggest they give away &quot;free tickets&quot; is just plain wrong. The closest most teams get to real, free tickets is giving 2 or 3 junior club teams free entry to be part of the half-time entertainment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, A-League clubs do not give away free tickets to regular matches.</p>
<p>There are occasional promotions with free tickets, but those generally rely on existing tickets example:</p>
<p>Adelaide had a promotion where each member/season ticket holder could pick one night to bring 4 friends along for free.</p>
<p>Sydney FC did a double-header type deal when buying a ticket to a match got free entry to a second match (iirc, it was buy a ticket for Adelaide, get free entry to the Central Coast match).</p>
<p>I believe North Queensland have a policy of allowing free entry to children under 16 for free with any adult ticket.</p>
<p>But to suggest they give away &#8220;free tickets&#8221; is just plain wrong. The closest most teams get to real, free tickets is giving 2 or 3 junior club teams free entry to be part of the half-time entertainment.</p>
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		<title>By: Australian Football</title>
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		<dc:creator>Australian Football</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s for folk just like you-----but for the Football purist like me and my comrades, it&#039;s the &quot;Australian National Football Team&quot;

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AF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s for folk just like you&#8212;&#8211;but for the Football purist like me and my comrades, it&#8217;s the &#8220;Australian National Football Team&#8221;</p>
<p>~~~~~~<br />
AF</p>
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		<title>By: ilikedahoodoogurusingha</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilikedahoodoogurusingha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If its called Football, why is our national team the Socceroos?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If its called Football, why is our national team the Socceroos?</p>
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		<title>By: mitzter</title>
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		<dc:creator>mitzter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 01:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes unfortunately the waratahs and reds never leave sydney or brisbane respectively. 
We even have a hoohar whenever the tahs play at homebush because it&#039;s further from the eastern suburbs (but hardly western sydney)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes unfortunately the waratahs and reds never leave sydney or brisbane respectively.<br />
We even have a hoohar whenever the tahs play at homebush because it&#8217;s further from the eastern suburbs (but hardly western sydney)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/02/01/melbourne-heart-and-rebels-a-tale-of-two-franchises/comment-page-3/#comment-289682</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 01:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where did I say I didn&#039;t like it???

and I&#039;m not the only one to think of the Merc Mutual Cup signs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where did I say I didn&#8217;t like it???</p>
<p>and I&#8217;m not the only one to think of the Merc Mutual Cup signs.</p>
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		<title>By: Dogz R Barkn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dogz R Barkn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 01:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching all this Heart stuff unfold from afar, I can&#039;t help thinking that the extra year afforded Rovers will be an absolute godsend for us.

Make no mistake  - we will hit the ground running with a good deal of committed support from the word go - and there won&#039;t be any mistaking our team with the Bling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching all this Heart stuff unfold from afar, I can&#8217;t help thinking that the extra year afforded Rovers will be an absolute godsend for us.</p>
<p>Make no mistake  &#8211; we will hit the ground running with a good deal of committed support from the word go &#8211; and there won&#8217;t be any mistaking our team with the Bling.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/02/01/melbourne-heart-and-rebels-a-tale-of-two-franchises/comment-page-3/#comment-289672</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 01:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Froar -

re &quot;You are right about football though. That is what other people call it so we should be like them. &quot;

the problem though is that this issue seems an Australian invention - the dreaded &#039;s&#039; word and the loathing of it.
&#039;Soccer&#039; - variously has been labelled an American invented put down term........obviously wrong - we know it&#039;s the Brits on abbreviation of &#039;Association&#039;.  It is a cool word, it is fine to use interchangeably and is done so even in the UK - where one of the longest and most respected publications is &quot;World Soccer&quot;.  Just ask &lt;B&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/blogs/lesmurray/football39s-bravest-venture-104464&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Les Murray&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/B&gt; about his &quot;October 1960 copy of World Soccer magazine, the very first issue of the monthly that has since become the world’s most prestigious English language football publication and is going stronger than ever today&quot;.
Do you reckon he&#039;s scribbled over the &#039;Soccer&#039; in title and changed it with &quot;it&#039;s called football&quot;......no, of course not.

&quot;That is what other people call it so we should be like them&quot; - but who are we talking about.  In the English speaking world, the US, Canada, Ireland all have local variants of football such that soccer is very widely used.  Around Australia - likewise (other than the SMH!!).  Why should we be like any body else outside of that selection?  Noting that &#039;soccer&#039; has been used widely in NZ and South Africa - - but, from a marketers perspective, there does appear a battle for ownership of the term &#039;football&#039;......and that&#039;s really just sad.

So - celebrate difference rather than seek uniformity and mono-culture.  Celebrate the Italians where Associazione Calcio Milan, or AC Milan is their unique phrasing - - - none of this cultural cringe to suggest they should be just like everybody else.  Bugger everybody else!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Froar -</p>
<p>re &#8220;You are right about football though. That is what other people call it so we should be like them. &#8221;</p>
<p>the problem though is that this issue seems an Australian invention &#8211; the dreaded &#8216;s&#8217; word and the loathing of it.<br />
&#8216;Soccer&#8217; &#8211; variously has been labelled an American invented put down term&#8230;&#8230;..obviously wrong &#8211; we know it&#8217;s the Brits on abbreviation of &#8216;Association&#8217;.  It is a cool word, it is fine to use interchangeably and is done so even in the UK &#8211; where one of the longest and most respected publications is &#8220;World Soccer&#8221;.  Just ask <b><a href="http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/blogs/lesmurray/football39s-bravest-venture-104464" rel="nofollow">Les Murray</a></b> about his &#8220;October 1960 copy of World Soccer magazine, the very first issue of the monthly that has since become the world’s most prestigious English language football publication and is going stronger than ever today&#8221;.<br />
Do you reckon he&#8217;s scribbled over the &#8216;Soccer&#8217; in title and changed it with &#8220;it&#8217;s called football&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;no, of course not.</p>
<p>&#8220;That is what other people call it so we should be like them&#8221; &#8211; but who are we talking about.  In the English speaking world, the US, Canada, Ireland all have local variants of football such that soccer is very widely used.  Around Australia &#8211; likewise (other than the SMH!!).  Why should we be like any body else outside of that selection?  Noting that &#8216;soccer&#8217; has been used widely in NZ and South Africa &#8211; - but, from a marketers perspective, there does appear a battle for ownership of the term &#8216;football&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;and that&#8217;s really just sad.</p>
<p>So &#8211; celebrate difference rather than seek uniformity and mono-culture.  Celebrate the Italians where Associazione Calcio Milan, or AC Milan is their unique phrasing &#8211; - &#8211; none of this cultural cringe to suggest they should be just like everybody else.  Bugger everybody else!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Midfielder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midfielder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my humble opinion the Heart have not been good at promoting themselves ... they always said Heart was not going to be their names etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my humble opinion the Heart have not been good at promoting themselves &#8230; they always said Heart was not going to be their names etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s in the back pages of the Herald Sun today.  Rubbish logo IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s in the back pages of the Herald Sun today.  Rubbish logo IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Therein lies their Ace card. Play that card, Melb Heart will go well from the start. I&#039;d go to a game to see Dukes.

Redb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Therein lies their Ace card. Play that card, Melb Heart will go well from the start. I&#8217;d go to a game to see Dukes.</p>
<p>Redb</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Melbourne Heart have unveiled their logo and announced the name as Melbourne Heart and there has been little to no fanfare. Where&#039;s the big launch, photos, media, anything? I couldn&#039;t even find the story of the name and logo on the Herald Sun website and they ran the comp to name the team!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Melbourne Heart have unveiled their logo and announced the name as Melbourne Heart and there has been little to no fanfare. Where&#8217;s the big launch, photos, media, anything? I couldn&#8217;t even find the story of the name and logo on the Herald Sun website and they ran the comp to name the team!</p>
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		<title>By: Towser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Towser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Viduka starts for the Heart it may give them an initial leg up:-

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,26664377-5000940,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Viduka starts for the Heart it may give them an initial leg up:-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,26664377-5000940,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,26664377-5000940,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet both areas bid for their own Super 15 licence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet both areas bid for their own Super 15 licence.</p>
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		<title>By: Froar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Froar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welll there are significantly more people at the Aus open and a bulldogs game to begin with. 

You are right about football though. That is what other people call it so we should be like them. They thing I find funny about it is how upset Australian association football supporters get when you use the dreaded soccer word. You can use it throughout Europe and people won&#039;t even blink. It is a non-issue. You won&#039;t even get a funny look. Especially when a number of the football related television shows and newspaper lift outs include soccer in the name. Both sides need to get over it. Perhaps AFL could be tweedle dee and soccer could be tweedle dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welll there are significantly more people at the Aus open and a bulldogs game to begin with. </p>
<p>You are right about football though. That is what other people call it so we should be like them. They thing I find funny about it is how upset Australian association football supporters get when you use the dreaded soccer word. You can use it throughout Europe and people won&#8217;t even blink. It is a non-issue. You won&#8217;t even get a funny look. Especially when a number of the football related television shows and newspaper lift outs include soccer in the name. Both sides need to get over it. Perhaps AFL could be tweedle dee and soccer could be tweedle dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: Froar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Froar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am no AFL fan. Only ever been to see one game.</description>
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		<title>By: jeznez</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeznez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a rugby union football fan &#039;d be  with 20K in the first couple of years. Definitely agree that a suggestion that you&#039;d get the same crowd for the Rebels in their six or seven home games as the Wallabies pull once every couple of years is wildly optomistic.

I think the Rebels have made some great announcements but they went through some trauma and comedy capers to get this far. Hardly a model birth to the new club but the last couple of weeks looks like they have gotten the ship in order.

And to Harry Kimble, I don&#039;t want to start a big debate but every rugby club I&#039;ve ever been in has been a RUFC, the English are still the RFU. Most rugby fans actually differentiate their codes by the League or Union descriptive to try and avoid confusion. Us Union lads (and lasses) are hopefully not too precious and don&#039;t mind other codes sharing terms like Football or Rugby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a rugby union football fan &#8216;d be  with 20K in the first couple of years. Definitely agree that a suggestion that you&#8217;d get the same crowd for the Rebels in their six or seven home games as the Wallabies pull once every couple of years is wildly optomistic.</p>
<p>I think the Rebels have made some great announcements but they went through some trauma and comedy capers to get this far. Hardly a model birth to the new club but the last couple of weeks looks like they have gotten the ship in order.</p>
<p>And to Harry Kimble, I don&#8217;t want to start a big debate but every rugby club I&#8217;ve ever been in has been a RUFC, the English are still the RFU. Most rugby fans actually differentiate their codes by the League or Union descriptive to try and avoid confusion. Us Union lads (and lasses) are hopefully not too precious and don&#8217;t mind other codes sharing terms like Football or Rugby.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Real Australian it's called Football Man formerly known as Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Real Australian it's called Football Man formerly known as Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even by the standards of The Roar this is weird line of argument from the soccerinas.  To quote from the linked article: &quot;My understanding from the FFA is that we have been permitted to proceed provided there is sufficient differentiation in the name to avoid any confusion,&quot; Munn said. &quot;That if we want, just as an example, to call ourselves Melbourne Jets FC, with Jets clearly being a point of difference, then we can.&quot;

So there is no &#039;legal challenge&#039; from the AFL, no attempt to stop the new soccer club from using the term &#039;FC&#039; in its name, nothing of the kind whatsoever.  So please everyone move along, nothing to see here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even by the standards of The Roar this is weird line of argument from the soccerinas.  To quote from the linked article: &#8220;My understanding from the FFA is that we have been permitted to proceed provided there is sufficient differentiation in the name to avoid any confusion,&#8221; Munn said. &#8220;That if we want, just as an example, to call ourselves Melbourne Jets FC, with Jets clearly being a point of difference, then we can.&#8221;</p>
<p>So there is no &#8216;legal challenge&#8217; from the AFL, no attempt to stop the new soccer club from using the term &#8216;FC&#8217; in its name, nothing of the kind whatsoever.  So please everyone move along, nothing to see here.</p>
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		<title>By: bever fever</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/02/01/melbourne-heart-and-rebels-a-tale-of-two-franchises/comment-page-3/#comment-289493</link>
		<dc:creator>bever fever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well  itscalled football , real football, australian football , football is us etc etc etc it  actually is just FC as far as the registered name is concerned, soccer supporters should focus on more important things, like actually playing soccer and finding some people to turn up to games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well  itscalled football , real football, australian football , football is us etc etc etc it  actually is just FC as far as the registered name is concerned, soccer supporters should focus on more important things, like actually playing soccer and finding some people to turn up to games.</p>
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		<title>By: ItsCalledFootball</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/02/01/melbourne-heart-and-rebels-a-tale-of-two-franchises/comment-page-3/#comment-289492</link>
		<dc:creator>ItsCalledFootball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats wrong with Melbourne Victory Football Club or Melbourne Heart Football Club?

How can they possibly get confused with Melbourne Demons Football Club?

How ever long marn grook has been played in Victoria, the AFL still doesn&#039;t own the patent to the terms &quot;Melbourne&quot; or &quot;Football Club&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats wrong with Melbourne Victory Football Club or Melbourne Heart Football Club?</p>
<p>How can they possibly get confused with Melbourne Demons Football Club?</p>
<p>How ever long marn grook has been played in Victoria, the AFL still doesn&#8217;t own the patent to the terms &#8220;Melbourne&#8221; or &#8220;Football Club&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ItsCalledFootball</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/02/01/melbourne-heart-and-rebels-a-tale-of-two-franchises/comment-page-3/#comment-289490</link>
		<dc:creator>ItsCalledFootball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a surprise.

the Judean peoples front of AFL don&#039;t like the new Melbourne Heart logos. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a surprise.</p>
<p>the Judean peoples front of AFL don&#8217;t like the new Melbourne Heart logos. <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ItsCalledFootball</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/02/01/melbourne-heart-and-rebels-a-tale-of-two-franchises/comment-page-2/#comment-289488</link>
		<dc:creator>ItsCalledFootball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some football supporter you are.

We don&#039;t want you anyway and stick with your AFL thank you very much.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some football supporter you are.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t want you anyway and stick with your AFL thank you very much.  <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bever fever</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/02/01/melbourne-heart-and-rebels-a-tale-of-two-franchises/comment-page-3/#comment-289487</link>
		<dc:creator>bever fever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont know the leagalities of it all but Melbourne Football Club has  been around for 150 years and as such its petty of a another club/code  attempting to steal its name and rebrand itself football, when in that state its been known as soccer for 100 years. The word football clearly means australian rules football in Viictoria and the southern states.

Try starting up a new restaurant by naming it Macdonalds or even maccas or anything remotely the same, try starting up a new sporting franchise called Man U hearts FC and see what happens.

Whats wrong with Melbourne Hearts soccer club.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont know the leagalities of it all but Melbourne Football Club has  been around for 150 years and as such its petty of a another club/code  attempting to steal its name and rebrand itself football, when in that state its been known as soccer for 100 years. The word football clearly means australian rules football in Viictoria and the southern states.</p>
<p>Try starting up a new restaurant by naming it Macdonalds or even maccas or anything remotely the same, try starting up a new sporting franchise called Man U hearts FC and see what happens.</p>
<p>Whats wrong with Melbourne Hearts soccer club.</p>
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		<title>By: ItsCalledFootball</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/02/01/melbourne-heart-and-rebels-a-tale-of-two-franchises/comment-page-3/#comment-289485</link>
		<dc:creator>ItsCalledFootball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matta mate mate mate . . . 

I think you are the one who perhaps needs to get out more - maybe an A-League game would be a start.
Then you might see for yourself how many families and young children go along and how well behaved the crowds are and you mightn&#039;t make such ridiculous statements.

What ethnic group does Victory represent?
What ethnic culture is Heart going to adopt?

What evidence do you have that another Melbourne team will cuse ethnic issues?

Do you suggest stopping the Australian Open Tennis or the Bulldogs rugby league club because a few ethnic people caused trouble?

Or the T20 cricket
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/adelaide-security-stepped-up-after-t20-incidents-20100124-msmw.html

Mate, the A-League aint that bad. Really.

You can call the sport whatever you like mate, but the FFA and FIFA have asked their members to call it football as it is known in the vast majority of the world.

People who have issues with the term ‘football’ being used for the sport really need to get out more. Maybe put the penis away, go down the pub, buy yourself a drink and try talking to a girl…?

Cheers
Mate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matta mate mate mate . . . </p>
<p>I think you are the one who perhaps needs to get out more &#8211; maybe an A-League game would be a start.<br />
Then you might see for yourself how many families and young children go along and how well behaved the crowds are and you mightn&#8217;t make such ridiculous statements.</p>
<p>What ethnic group does Victory represent?<br />
What ethnic culture is Heart going to adopt?</p>
<p>What evidence do you have that another Melbourne team will cuse ethnic issues?</p>
<p>Do you suggest stopping the Australian Open Tennis or the Bulldogs rugby league club because a few ethnic people caused trouble?</p>
<p>Or the T20 cricket<br />
<a href="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/adelaide-security-stepped-up-after-t20-incidents-20100124-msmw.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/adelaide-security-stepped-up-after-t20-incidents-20100124-msmw.html</a></p>
<p>Mate, the A-League aint that bad. Really.</p>
<p>You can call the sport whatever you like mate, but the FFA and FIFA have asked their members to call it football as it is known in the vast majority of the world.</p>
<p>People who have issues with the term ‘football’ being used for the sport really need to get out more. Maybe put the penis away, go down the pub, buy yourself a drink and try talking to a girl…?</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Mate</p>
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		<title>By: ItsCalledFootball</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/02/01/melbourne-heart-and-rebels-a-tale-of-two-franchises/comment-page-1/#comment-289481</link>
		<dc:creator>ItsCalledFootball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh?

Paranoia.

How in the world is Melbourne Lord Mayor&#039;s Charity going to lose its charity status, because of Melbourne Heart Football Club?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh?</p>
<p>Paranoia.</p>
<p>How in the world is Melbourne Lord Mayor&#8217;s Charity going to lose its charity status, because of Melbourne Heart Football Club?</p>
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		<title>By: jimbo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/02/01/melbourne-heart-and-rebels-a-tale-of-two-franchises/comment-page-3/#comment-289476</link>
		<dc:creator>jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 12:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think its a case of paranoia Froar.

Lets look at what&#039;s transpired.

It seems Melbourne Heart are not officially allowed to use the title Melbourne Heart Football Club, because of legal action on two fronts.

The AFL has objected to the use of the words &quot;Melbourne&quot;, &quot;Football&quot; and &quot;Club&quot; in their name, because the Melbourne AFL team or the Demons is already known as the Melbourne football club.  This is despite the fact that Melbourne Victory has called itself the Melbourne Victory Football Club already for several years.

Secondly, the Melbourne Lord Mayors charity has raised legal objections to the Heart using the term &quot;Melbourne Heart Football Club&quot; becuase the charity is also know as the &quot;Heart of Melbourne Charity&quot;.

Where is the paranoia in all that?

The legal action is stopping the Melbourne Heart kick off their team and set up an official website.

Do you think they are two valid legal objections?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think its a case of paranoia Froar.</p>
<p>Lets look at what&#8217;s transpired.</p>
<p>It seems Melbourne Heart are not officially allowed to use the title Melbourne Heart Football Club, because of legal action on two fronts.</p>
<p>The AFL has objected to the use of the words &#8220;Melbourne&#8221;, &#8220;Football&#8221; and &#8220;Club&#8221; in their name, because the Melbourne AFL team or the Demons is already known as the Melbourne football club.  This is despite the fact that Melbourne Victory has called itself the Melbourne Victory Football Club already for several years.</p>
<p>Secondly, the Melbourne Lord Mayors charity has raised legal objections to the Heart using the term &#8220;Melbourne Heart Football Club&#8221; becuase the charity is also know as the &#8220;Heart of Melbourne Charity&#8221;.</p>
<p>Where is the paranoia in all that?</p>
<p>The legal action is stopping the Melbourne Heart kick off their team and set up an official website.</p>
<p>Do you think they are two valid legal objections?</p>
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		<title>By: Punter</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/02/01/melbourne-heart-and-rebels-a-tale-of-two-franchises/comment-page-3/#comment-289450</link>
		<dc:creator>Punter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 10:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was way too much Soccer v Football talk for me.</description>
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		<title>By: JohnB</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/02/01/melbourne-heart-and-rebels-a-tale-of-two-franchises/comment-page-1/#comment-289448</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 10:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But more accurate than most of the statements on here re rights to the word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But more accurate than most of the statements on here re rights to the word.</p>
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