Comments on: Stamping out staging presents another issue http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/02/05/stamping-out-staging-presents-another-issue/ Your Sports Opinion Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:20:29 +0000 hourly 1 By: chips http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/02/05/stamping-out-staging-presents-another-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-291832 chips Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:28:32 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=27546#comment-291832 i agree - it's not a problem in the game, so why address it. the damage to reputation is enough. how many free kicks did lloyd get paid in the second half of his career once he had a reputation as a stager? i agree – it’s not a problem in the game, so why address it. the damage to reputation is enough. how many free kicks did lloyd get paid in the second half of his career once he had a reputation as a stager?

]]> By: Justin Rodski http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/02/05/stamping-out-staging-presents-another-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-291709 Justin Rodski Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:28:41 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=27546#comment-291709 Thats partly my point, by making staging a reportable offence the AFL is actually putting the issue in the spotlight, when in my mind, it hasnt been a significant problem at all. The occasional 'over acting' is for the most part picked up on by the umpire and play goes on. The AFL has by their own ommision admitted it exists, but the other big difference is on the scoreboard as the consequence of a goal in soccer is far greater compared to AFL. Because of this, a soccer match is often decided by one critical decision by a referee....that is when staging brings the game into disrepute. Thats partly my point, by making staging a reportable offence the AFL is actually putting the issue in the spotlight, when in my mind, it hasnt been a significant problem at all. The occasional ‘over acting’ is for the most part picked up on by the umpire and play goes on. The AFL has by their own ommision admitted it exists, but the other big difference is on the scoreboard as the consequence of a goal in soccer is far greater compared to AFL. Because of this, a soccer match is often decided by one critical decision by a referee….that is when staging brings the game into disrepute.

]]> By: Lazza http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/02/05/stamping-out-staging-presents-another-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-291691 Lazza Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:04:12 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=27546#comment-291691 Lucas Neil said afterward that Grosso just did what he had to do for his country. Most Football fans have changed their view as well. It was an emotional night and we thought we were robbed but in reality Lucas made an error by diving into the box and NOT getting the ball. That just invites that kind of thing from a wily player. That's the same problem that the AFL will have. A lot of it is just interpretation and not always clear cut. How can it bring Soccer into disrepute when the AFL have just admitted that it happens in their sport as well? Lucas Neil said afterward that Grosso just did what he had to do for his country. Most Football fans have changed their view as well. It was an emotional night and we thought we were robbed but in reality Lucas made an error by diving into the box and NOT getting the ball. That just invites that kind of thing from a wily player.

That’s the same problem that the AFL will have. A lot of it is just interpretation and not always clear cut. How can it bring Soccer into disrepute when the AFL have just admitted that it happens in their sport as well?

]]> By: lemo http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/02/05/stamping-out-staging-presents-another-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-291353 lemo Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:13:26 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=27546#comment-291353 I hope im wrong but I can see the whole week taken up with appeals from players not wanting to be seen to be cheating - when in fact it is just gamesmanship and has been in the game for years - i for one dont care if players stage for free kicks because I believe the umpires should be on top of it and not pay the free kick in the first place. How many times have you seen the player throw their arms out or fall to the ground - not get the free kick and be totally out of the contest. So, this new rule is just a way of covering the umpires inabiltiy to police "staging" in the first place. How is it going to change anything if the umpires cant tell what is staged and what isnt - it doesnt matter what the penalty is. As I said before the biggest penalty is getting the decision right and not paying a free in the first place. I think in that situation the coach might be in the best postion to curb the behaviour of the player by suggesting he doesnt play for frees or he might be having a rest in the seconds. I hope im wrong but I can see the whole week taken up with appeals from players not wanting to be seen to be cheating – when in fact it is just gamesmanship and has been in the game for years – i for one dont care if players stage for free kicks because I believe the umpires should be on top of it and not pay the free kick in the first place. How many times have you seen the player throw their arms out or fall to the ground – not get the free kick and be totally out of the contest. So, this new rule is just a way of covering the umpires inabiltiy to police “staging” in the first place. How is it going to change anything if the umpires cant tell what is staged and what isnt – it doesnt matter what the penalty is. As I said before the biggest penalty is getting the decision right and not paying a free in the first place. I think in that situation the coach might be in the best postion to curb the behaviour of the player by suggesting he doesnt play for frees or he might be having a rest in the seconds.

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