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	<title>Comments on: Lovett&#8217;s time at St Kilda is over before it began</title>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pity that Ross Lyons&#039; pig headedness has cost the Saints so much. The bungling of Luke Ball&#039;s contract and subsequent departure; the selection of a costly dead head new recruit. For St. Kilda, the momentum carried forward from last year is beginning to look like wheels spinning in the mud. And the Premiership clock keeps on ticking past midnight. What a shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pity that Ross Lyons&#8217; pig headedness has cost the Saints so much. The bungling of Luke Ball&#8217;s contract and subsequent departure; the selection of a costly dead head new recruit. For St. Kilda, the momentum carried forward from last year is beginning to look like wheels spinning in the mud. And the Premiership clock keeps on ticking past midnight. What a shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus, if the case against Lovett is so conclusive and there is ample evidence that can be gathered by those &quot;on site&quot;, why has it taken so long for the police to charge him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus, if the case against Lovett is so conclusive and there is ample evidence that can be gathered by those &#8220;on site&#8221;, why has it taken so long for the police to charge him?</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many St Kilda players didn&#039;t want him at the club prior to all of this happening and he has had a public, on field confrontationwith Riewoldt in the past.I would suggest that nothing really happened and this was merely a charade orchestrated by Riewoldt to get rid of him.
Montagna and Milne are one of the boys so it&#039;s alright, Lovett and Riewoldt have history and Riewoldt wanted him gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many St Kilda players didn&#8217;t want him at the club prior to all of this happening and he has had a public, on field confrontationwith Riewoldt in the past.I would suggest that nothing really happened and this was merely a charade orchestrated by Riewoldt to get rid of him.<br />
Montagna and Milne are one of the boys so it&#8217;s alright, Lovett and Riewoldt have history and Riewoldt wanted him gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovett has not been charged as yet.

re Montagna and Milne - - perhaps that&#039;s it, perhaps there was some false accusation, it&#039;s often a grey area - - with Lovett, it seems pretty black and white and the players &#039;on site&#039; can vouch that it the &#039;accusation&#039; is not from any potential &#039;gold mining&#039; perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovett has not been charged as yet.</p>
<p>re Montagna and Milne &#8211; - perhaps that&#8217;s it, perhaps there was some false accusation, it&#8217;s often a grey area &#8211; - with Lovett, it seems pretty black and white and the players &#8216;on site&#8217; can vouch that it the &#8216;accusation&#8217; is not from any potential &#8216;gold mining&#8217; perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Redb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovett&#039;s problem is his past history. only weeks after signing with St Kilda he was arrested for being drunk in a public place. Lovett had considerable baggage at Essendon, we failed to turn him around but St Kilda knew what they were getting. 

Giving up Lovett was a tough decision, one of the most attacking players and runners through the guts. Unfortunately he is a bad egg.

As this happened in the off season it is also a much easier decision to suspend the player for a longer period of time.  Look at Inglis of melb storm he missed about 2 games despite the court case being ongoing.

The first reaction by a club is suspension due to shock then adjustment as the news and impact fades away.

Redb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovett&#8217;s problem is his past history. only weeks after signing with St Kilda he was arrested for being drunk in a public place. Lovett had considerable baggage at Essendon, we failed to turn him around but St Kilda knew what they were getting. </p>
<p>Giving up Lovett was a tough decision, one of the most attacking players and runners through the guts. Unfortunately he is a bad egg.</p>
<p>As this happened in the off season it is also a much easier decision to suspend the player for a longer period of time.  Look at Inglis of melb storm he missed about 2 games despite the court case being ongoing.</p>
<p>The first reaction by a club is suspension due to shock then adjustment as the news and impact fades away.</p>
<p>Redb</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has Lovett been charged? Why have they tolerated Milne and Montagna for so long? The only difference is that Milne and Montagna sexually assaulted a few random, loose woman whilst Lovett apparentley did something to one of his teamates&#039; not so random, loose girlfriend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has Lovett been charged? Why have they tolerated Milne and Montagna for so long? The only difference is that Milne and Montagna sexually assaulted a few random, loose woman whilst Lovett apparentley did something to one of his teamates&#8217; not so random, loose girlfriend.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably the result of some politics within the club. Perhaps there was a faction on the board set against signing him in the first place that has been strengthened by these charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably the result of some politics within the club. Perhaps there was a faction on the board set against signing him in the first place that has been strengthened by these charges.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Rodski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Rodski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, there are only two people that know the details of the circumstances and I&#039;m not one of them. 

Lovett is yet to be charged and is under investigation, sexual assault if proven is unforgivable...BUT at this stage they are allegations. If true he deserves to be given the boot and dealt with through the courts, there is no question about that in my mind.

There was an alleged incident with Stephen Milne and Leigh Montagna involving a sexual assault in 2004. In the end there was insufficient evidence to prove rape allegations and neither faced charges. They are both still playing at St Kilda. What I&#039;m saying is if Lovett&#039;s charges are dropped, I think St Kilda will still sack him.

I am a sports reporter and agree with you Lovett wont play again... publicily St Kilda is stalling, while internally he&#039;s clearly not wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, there are only two people that know the details of the circumstances and I&#8217;m not one of them. </p>
<p>Lovett is yet to be charged and is under investigation, sexual assault if proven is unforgivable&#8230;BUT at this stage they are allegations. If true he deserves to be given the boot and dealt with through the courts, there is no question about that in my mind.</p>
<p>There was an alleged incident with Stephen Milne and Leigh Montagna involving a sexual assault in 2004. In the end there was insufficient evidence to prove rape allegations and neither faced charges. They are both still playing at St Kilda. What I&#8217;m saying is if Lovett&#8217;s charges are dropped, I think St Kilda will still sack him.</p>
<p>I am a sports reporter and agree with you Lovett wont play again&#8230; publicily St Kilda is stalling, while internally he&#8217;s clearly not wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One would probably have to know the truth rather than the conjecture to establish the absolute differences.

If player group reaction tells us anything, then, there IS a difference.

Is that difference simply changing attitudes with the passing of time?  (if so, that would illustrate that all the respect/responsibility education is having an impact!!!).

;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One would probably have to know the truth rather than the conjecture to establish the absolute differences.</p>
<p>If player group reaction tells us anything, then, there IS a difference.</p>
<p>Is that difference simply changing attitudes with the passing of time?  (if so, that would illustrate that all the respect/responsibility education is having an impact!!!).</p>
<p> <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Art Sapphire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Sapphire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr LNPWB - What are the &quot;details of the circumstances&quot;?? Why don&#039;t the players want Lovett. How is this different from the Montagne, Milne episode where, unlike Lovett, both the players were protected by the Saints when police investgated them for similar offences a few years back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr LNPWB &#8211; What are the &#8220;details of the circumstances&#8221;?? Why don&#8217;t the players want Lovett. How is this different from the Montagne, Milne episode where, unlike Lovett, both the players were protected by the Saints when police investgated them for similar offences a few years back.</p>
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		<title>By: Dandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree, sexual assault is far worst. 

The problem is, he has not even been charged, and Stokes has and admitted guilt.

Not trying to defend Lovett, but how can you suspend purely on accusation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree, sexual assault is far worst. </p>
<p>The problem is, he has not even been charged, and Stokes has and admitted guilt.</p>
<p>Not trying to defend Lovett, but how can you suspend purely on accusation?</p>
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		<title>By: Gibbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gibbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very hard to feel sympathy for the man. 

in my book sexual assault is just so much worse than the mathew stokes situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very hard to feel sympathy for the man. </p>
<p>in my book sexual assault is just so much worse than the mathew stokes situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Lovett not wanted by Players</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lovett not wanted by Players</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin,

just to clarify - surely you know (as a sports reporter) why Lovett will never play for the Saints? The players don&#039;t want him - and with good reason. What he did will never be forgiven by the playing group, so of course he has no future at Seaford.
Surely you know the details of the circumstances?

Also - it is 44 years not 45 years. 1966-2010.

Interestingly the New Orleans Saints were born in November 1966 - a good year for Saints it would seem, is this year to be a repeat? Say hi to Joel for me when you see him.

J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin,</p>
<p>just to clarify &#8211; surely you know (as a sports reporter) why Lovett will never play for the Saints? The players don&#8217;t want him &#8211; and with good reason. What he did will never be forgiven by the playing group, so of course he has no future at Seaford.<br />
Surely you know the details of the circumstances?</p>
<p>Also &#8211; it is 44 years not 45 years. 1966-2010.</p>
<p>Interestingly the New Orleans Saints were born in November 1966 &#8211; a good year for Saints it would seem, is this year to be a repeat? Say hi to Joel for me when you see him.</p>
<p>J</p>
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