France, Ireland meet in early 6 Nations Crunch
By pothale, 11 Feb 2010 Pot Hale is a Roar Guru
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Nearly a decade ago, the powers that be in the broadcasters covering the 6 Nations decided that the final match in the Championship should always be the France Vs England match.
‘Le Crunch’ as one headline famously dubbed the match between the two Northern heavyweights.
They’re the two biggest teams in the 6 Nations went the theory, and it was inevitable that the title would nearly always be decided between them.
Cue outcry from the other participants, and after some half-hearted arguments, the idea got shelved.
Just as well.
Last year’s final match was between Ireland and Wales. It had everything riding on it – the Triple Crown, the Championship, the Grand Slam, and even who would finish up in second, third and fourth place, depending on the result.
But despite their previous pompous call, maybe the TV schedulers have got it right again this year, because the last match is France versus England in what might well be the Grand Slam decider.
Ireland travel to Paris this weekend, where the 6 Nations joint favourites meet in one of the key matches of the championship. Whoever comes out of this one gets bragging rights to sustain them through the final three rounds.
If Ireland emerge as victors, they head to Twickenham two weeks later in buoyant mood to play England who will undoubtedly beat Italy this weekend, for the likely Grand Slam decider as the two remaining uneaten teams.
If the French win, then they move on to play Wales and Italy, before hosting England in the final match in the Stade de France.
Ireland started sluggishly in their victory over Italy last weekend in a dire match punctuated by two well-taken Irish tries and gifting an easy one to Italy.
The match was over as a contest before the first half whistle blew, with Italy’s game plan not to lose by more than 15 points etched in every ponderous scrum, field kick and mind-numbing breakdown where the Italian scrum-half set new records for not touching the ball at his feet.
Morgan Parra will be a lot more lively for the French in Paris. He’s likely to continue his partnership with Francois Trinh-Duc, looking to marshall the considerable forces of Jauzion and the latest ‘infant terrible’ to pull on a French jersey, Mathieu Basteauraud – a 17stone, fleet-footed centre who scored two tries against Scotland last weekend without breaking a sweat.
Basteauraud is only 21, the same age as when his opposite number, Brian O’Driscoll, walked out onto the French turf ten years ago, and scored a hat-trick of tries to debut his test career. Some believe (mainly French) that Basteauraud is set to take over BOD’s mantle in the coming years, and Saturday is as good a time as any to set down a marker.
France have had their setbacks on the injury front.
Aurelien Rougerie, their classy winger, hurled himself – kamikaze-style – into two tackles against the Scots and limped off after 5 minutes. He’s out for a few weeks. So also his opposite wing team-mate, Benjamin Fall, and the front row prop dynamo, Luc Ducalcon.
Of their replacements, Clermont’s Julien Malzieu, is probably the most deadly foe. Keith Earls of Ireland, who comes in for the injured Andrew Trimble, will need to be quick of eye and foot to match, never mind master, him.
Declan Kidney, and thousands of Irish fans, will be praying that Rob Kearney’s senior moment in last week’s match where he coughed up an easy try for Kaine Robertson, the Italian winger, is but a blip. His kicking was pretty wayward too, although he did make some of his trademarks line bursts during the match. The French may well want to test his resolve and mental strength early on in the game.
Lievremont is clearly worried about the number of penalties his team is conceeding. His remarks this week that the high penalty count against his team was possibly the fault of Nigel Owens, was put in context in a similar record against them in their match against Ireland, reffed by Monsieur Owens.
A report noting their concerns has been submitted to Paddy O’Brien for his consideration, according to the French coach. That could come back to bite them.
Lievremont has good reason to be fearful. Ronan O’Gara lines out again at 10, despite Jonny Sexton being available, but who only gets a place on the bench.
O’Gara’s place kicking last week was flawless, notching up 16 points of their victory total and becoming the first player to move through the 500 point barrier for a player in the 6 Nations.
Any doubts uttered about his kicking ability during his performance in the Autumn (including by yours truly) have evaporated since December – he’s back to 85% success and climbing.
His pinpoint kicking out of hand may be off a notch or two, but no doubt the high stakes of next week’s match will bring out the devil in him as he attempts to turn the French back on themselves.
It’s up front where Lievremont is likely to be most confident of getting on the front foot and dominating the Irish. The French forwards murdered the Scots in the scrums and put in some mighty shoves that gained them 10, 20 metres at a time.
The ageing Hayes, fiery Flannery, and young buck Healy are going to have their work cut out, and Ireland could quickly find themselves on the wrong side of the referee and concede penalties galore with collapsed scrums and front rows popping up, or else have Harinorduqouy rushing at them full speed, just like he tore up the Scottish back row last week in creating platforms for them to score their tries.
The weak link here is that Ireland may be without all of their first choice back three – Stephen Ferris is still sweating on an ankle injury from some weeks back. Kidney has held the slot open until the last minute in the hope that he recovers.
If not, Kevin McLaughlin gets thrown into the cauldron with just his second cap, or else Sean O’Brien with not many more.
At lineout time, Ireland may be able to make a stronger mark. Donncha O’Callaghan, O’Connell’s long-time second-row partner remains injured.
However, Leo Cullen, the Leinster captain stepped up to the plate last week and was probably one of the best players on the park, stifling and pilfering Italian ball with relish. Fast lineout ball, and the scampering O’Leary will be able to get it out to the waiting talents of Darcy, O’Driscoll, Bowe, Kearney and Earls to do their maximum damage.
Ireland very deliberately played an open game against France last year in Croke Park. It was their first match, and despite being notorious slow starters, ran in three tries against the French in one of the best matches of the championship.
It’s difficult to tell if they’ll be able to repeat the trick on French soil – they haven’t won here in 10 years – but if the reported sentiments of O’Driscoll are anything to go by – ‘we have to be out of the traps faster than them this weekend and not fall behind’ – then we should be in for a cracker, with ample talent on the bench to keep the match going to the last minute.
Currently, Ireland and France sit joint first at the top of the all-time 6 Nations Table having won 37 of their 51 matches played since 2000. Ireland have a chance to move ahead as they enter the second decade of professionalism.
Break out the kegs of Guinness and vats of Macon rouge, it’s time for some Craic n Crunch.
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Wavell Wakefield said | February 11th 2010 @ 4:06am | Report comment
Now look here, my name’s Bazza, and I’m an Aussie. I know what I likes and I likes what I know. One thing I don’t like is your boring Pommie rugby. It doesn’t get played in the summer and is full of whingeing Sheilas! Maybe if you played in the summer then your boys might beat the SH once in a while. See, we SHers keep fit and hard by running up hills with a sheep under each arm. The winner of the race gets to keep his sheep, and the loser has to stick his didgeridoo… Actually, it’s none of your business what we do with our sheep!
Needless to say that we’re tougher, fitter and better at rugger than you, and that’s bearing in mind that rugby is Australia’s 72nd favourite sport! And while we’re on the subject why won’t you bloody Poms allow us to change the laws to make the game faster and better? All us Aussies want is to take a player or two from the field of play, remove competitive scrummaging and allow rolling subs,and Bob’s your uncle, the game would be improved a hundred fold. Then we wouldn’t see so much bloody kicking. Strewth! It’s as if you NHers have confused the game with soccer. Us Aussies like to keep the ball in hand, see. Dingo Deans lets his boys play what’s in front of them.
Anyway, I don’t even know why I’m bothering responding. You Poms didn’t even want a World Cup, and Ireland haven’t even beaten NZ.. ever! I don’t watch your rugby, and I never will but I bet it’s full of kicking and the like, and anybody who doesn’t kick is a bloody show pony, right! You Poms don’t like having your safe, conservative world challenged, do ya?! Cobba, I’m off for an XXXX Even our Aussie beer is big. Right on!
Justin said | February 11th 2010 @ 7:17am | Report comment
WW – I think you might have the wrong thread old chap
Nice summary Pots, I hope the French get up (money wise) but should be an interesting match so long as the Irish can improve quickly on last weeks dismal efforts.
Now I just need to find an internet stream to watch it
Mike G said | February 11th 2010 @ 10:56am | Report comment
You don’t have many friends, do you WW??
Wavell Wakefield said | February 12th 2010 @ 5:02am | Report comment
Obviously I don’t, Mike, and that’s why I’m on SOOOO many different threads. Was manners not a big thing in you house? I guess not, old chum.
Pajovic said | February 12th 2010 @ 7:27pm | Report comment
In fairness, it summed up the Aussie rugby mind quite well. They have a bit of an Inferiority complex when it comes to them competiting with their more cultured European brothers. That is to be expected. They make up for it by pretending to be tough, super hard and excessive beer drinkers. Even the Brits out do them in that quarter too. The sunshine is nice though. But that’s the only reason anyone is there. Still, i wish them all the best.
King of the Gorganites said | February 11th 2010 @ 7:52pm | Report comment
what was that about?
are you suggesting australians dont watch the 6N? the games are now on ESPN so accessable to more people. any self respecting australian rugby fan will be watching the game.
stupid posts like that add nothing. in any case you were using the lingo of a league fan, not a rugby fan.
jools-usa said | February 11th 2010 @ 8:09am | Report comment
From my perspective, the Scots found some gaps in the middle channel against France.
They didn’t quite have skills needed for the 5-points but maybe Ireland will.
Jools-USA
Viscount Crouchback said | February 11th 2010 @ 9:21am | Report comment
It’s a difficult match to call. I think France’s maximum performance – see NZ away, SA at home – is much superior to Ireland’s maximum performance, but Ireland are so much more settled (and perhaps better coached) than France. I think it will come down to who gets the most front foot ball. France really ought to whip the Irish in the scrum, and if they can hold their own in the lineout, then they ought to enjoy the bulk of possession. I’m surprised by Earls’s selection. He looked like a rabbit in the headlights in South Africa.
pothale said | February 11th 2010 @ 10:27am | Report comment
The barrel’s not that full, VC.
Fitzgerald is out long-term and Trimble is carrying a hamstring strain that has him on the bench (that’s what Kidney said).
Earls looked out of depth in his first game in SA, but he came back well in subsequent tour matches.
He was quite impressive in the SA game in Croker I thought and subbed well for Fitzgerald when he came on in the Australia game. Still, he’s only learning and has more test match experience than other possible candidates without upsetting the whole balance of the backline.
Viscount Crouchback said | February 11th 2010 @ 11:33am | Report comment
What’s Kidney’s problem with Horgan, pothale? I thought he had returned to peak form and fitness. And what’s your take on the McLaughlin/Quinlan/O’Brien debate? The scrum will be very interesting. I think Flannery will really struggle when all that power comes charging through the middle of the French scrum. Rory Best might be the better bet.
Also, do you know much about this Conway chap in the U20s? I’m hearing great things about him.
Pothale said | February 11th 2010 @ 7:37pm | Report comment
Agree with you about Shane Horgan,VC. He’s been a revelation this season. Maybe it’s a case of wanting to give the younger fella his head by Kidney.
I was having a discussion about Quinlan vs McLaughlin yesterday funnily enough. Not sure why Quinlan gone out of picture cos he’s certainly got the mongrel and snarl for the task. Witness the recent game against Northampton. O’Brien is more suited to 7 and has subbed well for Jennings this at Leinster. McLaughlin seems determined to be the understudy/alternative to Ferris. Likewise Henry at 8 for Heaslip.
Best will get a half on Saturday. Both are returning from injury, though Best’s absence the longer of the two.
Can’t give you further info on Conway – sorry.
Pajovic said | February 11th 2010 @ 7:57pm | Report comment
France’s maximun performance would blow anyone away. No magic there. Ireland are a well coached team that make the most of very limited resources. I wish them all the best.
Pajovic said | February 11th 2010 @ 7:11pm | Report comment
Pothale, nicely written. I came across an interesting bloggers article on Connacht rugby. Let me know what you make of it.
http://advocatodiabolo.wordpress.com/2010/02/10/designing-the-future-of-connacht-rugby/
Wavell Wakefield said | February 12th 2010 @ 6:45am | Report comment
I have a suspicion that Ireland will win. I think the French back line is definitely capable, but looks both unbalanced and erratic in contrast to the settles Irish. Trinh-Duc is still very hit and miss, Palisson and Clerc lack height as a wing pairing, Bastareaud, whilst powerful, lacks composure and his handling is sometimes unreliable, and Poitrenaud is Poitrenaud. I don’t see any of the French back three having the game breaking abilities of either Bowe or Kearney and I don’t think Trinh-Duc can control a game like Traille used to, or how O’Gara can. The old truism applies, if Ireland can gain parity then I don’t see why they shouldn’t win? Looking good against Scotland isn’t exactly proof of a post-NZ resurgence. If France win I don’t think many people would be surprised, but there is something definitely a bit makeweight about the French backs.
Viscount Crouchback said | February 17th 2010 @ 2:07pm | Report comment
Sorry, old fruit, just came across this and couldn’t resist:
- Trinh-Duc hit and miss?
- Basteraud’s handling unreliable?
- French back three no game breaking abilities?
Old bean, you must stop reading Stephen Jones.
Colin N said | February 18th 2010 @ 8:14pm | Report comment
To be fair, Trinh-duc was/may still be inconsistant, Bastereud hasn’t got great hands, but is clearly a threat.
I disagreed on the third point though.
Wavell Wakefield said | February 18th 2010 @ 8:31pm | Report comment
What a profound sense of humour, VC. If you weren’t so likeable (in print) I might even be offended. Trinh-Duc is hit and miss, as we saw with his kicking and passing, Bastareaud has not yet proven himself to be a reliable footballer, and until Poitrenaud grabs a game by the scruff of the neck like Byrne, Kearney, Muliaina or Medard can then I stand proud. With regards to Stephen Jones I think I know what you are referring to. In fact, I am a fan of Parra and Trinh-Duc (and even highlighted Picamoles for great things when Jones suggested he was an irrelevance) but don’t think that Trinh-Duc will ever control a game and consistently lead France to great things. He’s basically the French Hook.
pothale said | February 12th 2010 @ 9:05am | Report comment
Interesting take, WW. Clerc’s inclusion came after I had written the article during the week. He is, of course, the bete noir for this Ireland team, particularly after his last minute try that sunk their Grand Slam hopes 3 years ago (or is it four?).
Palisson plays for Brive – not a banner for accomplishment normally. I don’t recall much of him, yet Lieremont chooses him over Malzieu who he leaves on the bench. Is this part of his ploy, keeping his real strength on the bench until the 60 minute mark.
Still this could yet be a forwards game, and that is where France are hoping to make their strongest mark – Boks style. Beat them up front, starve front foot ball, and the rest will take care of itself with Harinorduquoy striking from the rear.
Wavell Wakefield said | February 13th 2010 @ 8:44pm | Report comment
Palisson, I recall, got a few games on one of those typical French tours to the SH a few seasons ago, and was once a young starlet (not that he’s old now). I do remember thinking he was a nifty player, but that was on the wing, and recently at Brive he has been playing at fullback, and if there’s one thing I am unsure of it is short fullbacks. Admittedly he is playing 11 for France, but does that mean he will be able to slip into the mentality of a winger? Lievremont has publicly stated that he has been selected for his kicking and for his defence, but France won’t beat Ireland by kicking and defending.
All things considered I don’t think Palisson-Potrenaud-Clerc has a good balance. However, I’m equally unsure about the inclusion of Earls. There’s something a bit too tunnel vision about the way he plays, without finesse. I can’t really articulate myself, anyhow, I’m rambling… I think the thrust of the matter is this: Lievremont selected Traille to kick France out of trouble, and to set the pack. No player in the current 9-15 jersey can do that, so will France simply bash the ball up? The team is going to have to produce something better than the simplistic game plan that beat SA and Scotland, IMO, and if they do then I don’t think the players will be able to do so.
The media seems to think this game will be a classic. I don’t. I’m expecting kicking, defending and forward grizzling. If Ireland can hold the French, then they should never be out of touch of a win. Neither Domingo or Mas has the same power and general class of Marconnet. Nallet (who I am always impressed by) and Pape are a little too similar, and the back row has no technical seven, thus Wallace can concentrate on carrying. The lineout should be interesting because Harinordoquy and Ouedraogo are the only jumpers, and Servat is prone to the occasional wobble, and we all know what happens when the French crowd are unhappy with their team. Ireland does have a lineout that can challenge, a mobile front row, and a mobile and powerful back row. I really think this season the French are there for the taking, pothale.
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VC,
I agree with your assertion that Ireland haven’t done anything spectacular but they have still achieved, and the extension of accurate pragmatism in test rugby seems to be success. The interesting thing is that Ireland does have the players to blow teams away, but they haven’t, and I don’t think that is down to the fact that the players aren’t able to in the way that the recent ‘great’ SA team wasn’t able to.
Viscount Crouchback said | February 12th 2010 @ 10:20am | Report comment
It was interesting to read Lionel Nallet’s rather sniffy take on the Irish. I can’t help but agree with him actually. The Irish really aren’t especially spectacular. But then again, it seems to be unspectacular teams – e.g. a very ordinary England in 07/8/9 – that the French struggle against. I wonder whether Mr POC might be rubbing a few French noses in the dirt come Saturday evening.
pothale said | February 12th 2010 @ 7:11pm | Report comment
Yeah I read Nallet’s comments. And laughed. Accurate or not, the French are up to their mind games.
Lievremont also piled in with a sniffy description that finished with describing them as being very Australian!
Dusatoir decided to go the opposite direction, praising them and coming out with this comment on the lineout play: “I think they are better than the Springboks,” he continued. “Ireland are based on O’Connell and O’Callaghan. Their lifters are highly reactive, particularly in key defensive moments. To me, this is the best team in Europe.”
Working Class Rugger said | February 12th 2010 @ 7:16pm | Report comment
Pothale
” describing them as being very Australian !”
Is that a good or bad thing.
pothale said | February 13th 2010 @ 2:11am | Report comment
I’d be flattered personally – WCR – but I don’t think he was intending to be complimentary.
Colin N said | February 13th 2010 @ 12:52am | Report comment
http://www.scrum.com/sixnations/rugby/story/110382.html
A very interesting take on the Irish by Mr Parra.
Personally, I can’t see how Ireland will gain parity in the scrum and the French pack dominated the breakdown last week. They struggled a bit with Owens’ interpretations last week though. However, both Servat and the ‘blond’one (Don’t ask me to spell his name) are erratic throwers. Dusatoir has really impressed me; I always thought he was just a tackler, but he’s added to his game over the last year.
I also like the balance of the French backs. Jauzion’s playing well and Bastereud is inconsistent, but will punch holes in the Irish midfield. I like the look of the halfbacks – whether they’re too inexperienced – we’ll see.
pothale said | February 13th 2010 @ 2:14am | Report comment
Gosh – Ireland are cheating all the time, according to Parra.
Quelle horreur!
And the French are such an unblemished crew, they’d never attempt to bend ze rules……
Colin N said | February 13th 2010 @ 2:16am | Report comment
Quite – ‘Hand of frog’ anyone?
Pajovic said | February 13th 2010 @ 4:51am | Report comment
Finger of Quinlan anyone?
pothale said | February 13th 2010 @ 4:58am | Report comment
Not the point Pajovic.
We can all find instances where cheating/foul play occurred. Accusing one team of doing it all the time whilst trying to portray yourself as seemingly blameless is a bit rich.
The French love irony, clearly.