How the Waratahs broke the hearts of Reds fans
By Spiro Zavos, 15 Feb 2010 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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Luke Burgess (second left) congratulates Wycliff Palu during the match between the Queensland Reds and the New South Wales Waratahs at Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane, Saturday, Feb. 13, 2010. The Waratahs defeated the Reds 30-28. (AAP Image/Patrick Hamilton)
As I walked out of Suncorp Stadium on Saturday night, with Queensland Reds supporters drifting past me with their faces frozen masks of disappointment, their hearts broken with the last minute Waratahs try, I tried to work out whether the Reds are a good side or whether the NSW Waratahs are a weaker side than they were last year.
Next week’s Super Rugby round with the Reds playing the Crusaders at Suncorp Stadium and the Waratahs playing the Stormers at Cape Town will give us more clues as to an answer to this question.
On reflection, and this is subject to revision, of course, I think that Ewen McKenzie has stiffened up and improved the Reds and that Chris Hickey (again, I stress this is on the evidence of one away game) hasn’t done much with the strong squad he has with the Waratahs to improve on their performances last season.
In the Weekend Australian there was a detailed article by the paper’s rugby editor, the feisty and passionate (for Australia and Queensland) Wayne Smith about the do-or-die aspect of that night’s Super 14 match.
Smith pointed out that the Reds had won all the early Reds-Waratahs contests until a McKenzie-coached Waratahs stopped the rot in 2004. The Reds haven’t won their must-win match of the season since that defeat.
Suncorp Stadium is one of the great rugby (league and union) venues. It’s within walking distance of the CBD. The stands are almost vertical walls and you get a tremendous view of play from wherever you are. The surface, too, on Saturday night was perfect for interesting and exciting rugby to be played.
There was, as the television commentators like to say, an electric atmosphere around the ground as the faithful Reds fans, many of them resplendent in the team’s brazen colours. The jersey and scarf shop was doing a roaring trade.
A group of fans bustled past me. I heard one of the woman say: ‘Where’s Wally’s statue?’ This was a reminder that even Reds supporters have an allegiance to the game they play in maroon-coloured jerseys.
In the press box I had a long chat with Wayne Smith. He told me that the club rugby was strong. Rugby was strong in its traditional schools, with Brisbane Boys High School providing up to five players in the Australian Schoolboys side. But somehow this hasn’t translated into a strong showings by the Reds in the Super Rugby tournament of the last decade.
It was important for the Reds to be more competitive this year, he said, that they have been recently. If they were down the bottom of the table again, the crowd numbers would fall even further than they have in recent years.
Smith felt that something quintessentially Queensland was lost when John Connolly, the inaugural and initially successful Super Rugby coach, was not re-appointed after a couple of disappointing seasons. He went through the list of coaches, starting with Mark McBain through to Phil Mooney, who just weren’t up to the challenge.
He thought that the appointment of McKenzie could provide the stability and know-how lacking in previous regimes.
McKenzie, himself, in an article in the match program The Red Express, made it clear that ‘we will enter every match with the intention of winning.’ But he pointed out in the history of Super 14 only one team has gone through a season undefeated. But ‘we will not be running out there to finish second.’
The Reds, before a largish and boisterous crowd, started off strongly. There were massive roars when Berrick Barnes was monstered the first time he touched the ball. The roars turned to boos when he tried to kick for goal, and early on when he missed a long-range drop goal attempt.
Among the things that stood out as the entertaining game progressed were Will Genia’s enormous pass off the ground that put Quade Cooper outside his man time and time again.
Cooper is not my favourite player. He plays too much like a headless chicken at first five-eighths for my liking. I’d play him where Robbie Deans did mainly at inside centre. However, he made breaks, took the ball to the line and every so often produced magical flick passes that opened up play for his support runners.
One of his clever kick-offs, along the ground and barely 10m, was snaffled by the Reds and yet another onslaught on the Waratahs tryline was launched.
He also kicked goals with an unaccustomed accuracy and with a strange method that had him holding his right arm stiffly behind his back and then swinging it through as he put boot to ball.
The method worked, and the Reds backed up the kicking game with three tries, several of them sparked by devastating running from Genia.
Fireworks exploded when the tries were scored. The Zorba the Greek theme music (to the delight of this writer) got the spectators in a clappy-happy frame of mind. The crowd was animated in the expectation that against all the expert commentary and their own inner-most thoughts that a mighty victory was in the offing.
With 12 minutes remaining, the Waratahs scored. But they needed to score again and convert the try to win.
Daniel Halangahu kicked out on the full. The crowd exploded in ironic applause. But then from the scrum, the Waratahs pack won another tight head and the attacks on the Reds tryline continued.
I wrote in my notebook: ‘The Reds scrum is terrible and could lose them the game … But the Waratahs need the backs to do some decent running …’
The ground announcer, behaving like the 16th Reds player, sensed that it was time for the crowd to really get behind the home side.
The ‘We Are The Reds!’ song blared out around the ground. ‘We Are The Reds!’ the ground announcer chanted. The chant was taken up by the crowd. ‘We Are The Reds!’ resounded around the ground as the Waratahs moved the ball ever so close towards the Reds tryline.
The match clock showed 78 minutes had been played.
‘We Are The Reds!’ the crowd shouted as the Waratahs moved the ball from one runner to another. Then there was a spilled ball. An enormous roar filled the stadium. ‘We Are The Reds!’ the crowd shouted. Around me in the boxes grown men were hugging each like teenage kids.
But then, what’s this? The South African referee, Craig Joubert, for a second time, has ruled a penalty against the Reds.
The Waratahs have time for one more series of plays. An initial charge towards the line is stopped. ‘We Are The Reds!’
But it is obvious that that the Reds are out on their feet and short of tacklers if the ball is moved a couple of players wide.
Now Wycliff Palu has the ball. He’s careening towards the tryline like a runaway truck. He goes over the line under several Reds tacklers. Try! A scuffle breaks out. Clearly something has been said by the jubilant Waratahs players that hasn’t been appreciated by the Reds defenders.
While the scuffling is going on, time is ticking away. When the try was scored the match clock showed 89 minutes 20 seconds. Strictly speaking, only 40 seconds are allowed for kicks to be taken.
In theory, at least, there is time for one last play – a short kick-off, perhaps, a penalty won against the defending side and Cooper kicking for goal.
But it is not to be. While the scuffling is going on, Halangahu wanders around without setting up the ball. When he finally sets it up, the full-time whistle blasts. And then he kicks the winning conversion.
I look around to the patrons in the nearby boxes. Their faces, men and woman, are frozen grim and grey, as if they’ve been carved in marble.
Then outside, as a silent, stricken crowd filed away from the heartbreak and as I was wondering if such a dramatic loss might be enough for the faithful Reds to keep the faith, I saw a lanky, hirsute youth race away and yell to nobody in particular but to everybody probably: ‘That’s it. From now on I’m supporting the f….. Brumbies!’
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February 15th 2010 @ 9:19am
eric said | February 15th 2010 @ 9:19am | Report comment
Lee, “double movement” is a rugby league term. I understand in League, a tackled player can only use his momentum to reach the try line, and is not allowed to make an extra movement to reach the tryline. The words have never been part of rugby laws, but some people use the term when they mean “not releasing”. It amazes me that some commentators who played 50 plus tests, ie Kearns and Poidevin, use the term.
Poor old Phil’s commentary was as bad as ever for the first match of the year. He gives no enlightenment at all.
February 15th 2010 @ 9:43am
Lee said | February 15th 2010 @ 9:43am | Report comment
It’s a strange thing – because I have heard refs use the phrase – in fact was watching the Vegas 7s yesterday and it was the USA club final and it was mentioned – I belive teh US commentators called it a ‘double pump’.
It is illegal in Union though in the sense that once you have been tackled you cannot then have a crack at scoring unless it is by using your momentum, otherwise you are playing the ball on the ground? So it’s just a case of using the wrong terminlogy?
February 15th 2010 @ 10:07am
mitzter said | February 15th 2010 @ 10:07am | Report comment
Well technically momentum isn’t the key. You may immediately place the ball in any direction. So if you are short of the line you may immediately place it on it even if you have stopped moving. Obviously if someone on their feet is trying to take the ball off you or you have released the ball and then try and move it, it would be not realeasing or playing the ball while on the ground
February 15th 2010 @ 9:21am
terrykidd said | February 15th 2010 @ 9:21am | Report comment
Spiro hit the nail on the head with the difference between the two sides …. it was Genia’s quick wide service against Burgess’ slow narrow service ….. that is where the Tahs nearly lost it.
February 15th 2010 @ 9:43am
Roger said | February 15th 2010 @ 9:43am | Report comment
True true true…all those moaning and groaning about rest of team and then Hickey and Wsiemantle’s play book should look solely at halfback selection and Burgess’s passing woes. Tahs got plenty of ball but Barnes never had time (and momentum) to give it to outside backs. Give Burgess one more week then start Holmes or McKibbin I say.
I saw plenty of good intention from tahs off first phase, the problem was that they hade a bad case of dropsies in contact ,(like half the other teams) which made me question whether more trials are needed OR intensity of trials was a little soft.
One small issue i see is that Waugh is a very ‘tight’ 7 and does not play any sort of linking role with backs to take pressue off 9. I think Tahs need a running Ben Mowen to play, with another ‘tight’ player, Mumm to back second row.
Barnes did well with what he was given, and wasnt it refreshing not to inhale with fear every time ball went to the Tah 10? Anesi, Turner and Mtchell looked exciting and Carter and Beale, well there were no big defence problems and they really didnt get a chance to attack.
Really, with a roster such as this (big pack, fast wingers, good kicking 10) Tahs could be easily excused for playing Bulls-type crash/bash/kick/chase rugby bringing his wings and FB into play…it will only be goodwill and good results that will encourage Barnes to use his centres. And asking for goodwill in professionalism when you are losing is a stretch.
Halfback is the key link to backs for the tahs.
February 15th 2010 @ 10:21am
Mike G said | February 15th 2010 @ 10:21am | Report comment
TK/Roger – Were we watching the same game?? Burgess was without a doubt one of the best players for the Tahs (particularly in the 1st half).
I take the point that he has a history of bad service, so everyone watches him closely in that regard, but his overall game on Sat night was the best he’s played in ages. No doubt, Genia was the better of the 2 #9′s, I’m not suggesting otherwise, but Burgess was great, so perhaps you guys are criticising based more on history rather that Sat night??
There was a lot to take from the game (for both sides), certainly encouraging for the Reds to come so close & I stand by my prediction here a while back that they’ll finish around 10th & push a bunch of teams just above them. This will be the yr they start to turn it all around.
As for the tahs, ok, they ground out the win & they have to be commended for that, but geez lads, talk about a worrying first 70 min’s!!! The centres didn’t do anything great in D or attack, but at least they did nothing stupid in D…so I’d give them a C+. The pack played really well – Baxter Robbo were on fire in the set piece, so that’s obviously a bonus with the SA trip coming up…I still don’t like Mumm at 6, prefer Mowen, so I guess we’ll see if I’m right this w/e with Mumm out for 2.
All in all, Sat nights game was a cracker, judging by the reaction of the boys watching at my place…havn’t seen/heard that kind of reaction to a Tahs win for a while.
February 15th 2010 @ 12:58pm
GM said | February 15th 2010 @ 12:58pm | Report comment
Mike G,
Once again your blues eyes are in the way. Burgess did have some nice touches, including some inside balls to the forwards, but his kicking is woeful. The backline was outplayed by a superior qld backline, with Ioane, Hynes, Genia and even Cooper outplaying their opposites. Both centres were ordinary, which is a worry for both teams. NSW set piece was the only highlight for them, scrum (even baxter) was dominant and I don’t think they lost a lineout.
Dare I say if Palu had knocked the ball on and NSW lost, then you would have been calling for Burgess’ head??
February 15th 2010 @ 1:17pm
Mike G said | February 15th 2010 @ 1:17pm | Report comment
GM, interesting synopsis, but did you actually READ me comment?? If you did, you’d have known that I was in fact quite critical of the Tahs display overall. I believe I gave the centre pairing a C+ for example, but in your world that must be good???
Anyway, the general concensus from the boys at my place was the game was a really good spectacle &, whilst there were some errors, overall the skill level from both sides was actually pretty good, for game 1 of the year. If they are still making the same errors (like Burgo’s kicking you mention), in rd 4, then yes I’d agree with you. As it stands I think you should stop being so negative & jump on board the Tah express!!
February 15th 2010 @ 1:49pm
GM said | February 15th 2010 @ 1:49pm | Report comment
MG,
I don’t really take your opinion of backline play seriously as you are normally at the bottom of a ruck or maul having a bludge to know what those blokes do. And as for getting on the Tah’s express, I think athere is as much chance of that happening as you turning out for Lindfield 1st xv.
February 15th 2010 @ 9:47am
Jets said | February 15th 2010 @ 9:47am | Report comment
While it was a good performance from the Reds I will hold off for the next few weeks to judge their season. Crusaders, Blue and Chiefs will give everyone a better idea. 2 wins out of those 3 and things willbe looking up.
February 15th 2010 @ 10:15am
84% said | February 15th 2010 @ 10:15am | Report comment
I agree (for once) with Spiros read on the game as I mostly agree with the other comments. However I would like to strongly support BAY35 ‘s comment re Wayne Smiths comments where you said
“in the press box I had a long chat with Wayne Smith. He told me that the club rugby was strong. Rugby was strong in its traditional schools, with Brisbane Boys High School providing up to five players in the Australian Schoolboys side. But somehow this hasn’t translated into a strong showings by the Reds in the Super Rugby tournament of the last decade.”
Club Rugby in Queensland is on it’s knees, Qld Schoolboy Rugby is a sham that is destroying Qld Rugby from the inside. The schools raid the clubs (usually at the Qld Clubs State Championships), then forbid the boys from playing club in the following years. On top of this unless you are on the 1st 15 squad in the Brisbane schools the players only get nine or ten weeks training for six matches !! The Clubs are at fault just as much as the QRU in allowing this ridiculous situation to flourish and despite many years of complaining no-one is even ready to discuss a comprimise plan to keep the clubs strong. I have proven over the years that a reasonable club team will put away any Qld Schools team. Think about it ? A club player gets around 28 weeks of training with around 16 games for his season, so in expirence alone the club player is way ahead and usually the quality of club training is way superior to what the kids get in their ten weeks at school.
The QRU have boasted for a few years now how player numbers are rising … yes in the schools but dying dramatically in the clubs. Until the QRU reverse this trend (along with recruting League players) Rugby in QLD will continue to decline. How did the Australian Schoolboys do overseas ? I think they won one game out of seven, if yopu had of had Club based coaches I venture to guess that the result would have been a hell of a lot better.
February 16th 2010 @ 1:28am
Glen said | February 16th 2010 @ 1:28am | Report comment
84% said… The schools raid the clubs (usually at the Qld Clubs State Championships), then forbid the boys from playing club in the following years. On top of this unless you are on the 1st 15 squad in the Brisbane schools the players only get nine or ten weeks training for six matches
Wrong on both counts… the boys at GPS schools are encouraged to play for their school only… no boy is “banned” from playing club rugby or league. They only go to school there, they are not under any sort of contract and to to enforce such a rule would actually be illegal I think. I was on the Rugby committee of a leading GPS school for 6 years and it used to frustrate us enormously, but there was, and could never be a ban. My own son played for the college on Saturday and played for Jeeps on Sunday.
Training for 9 weeks???? In your dreams mate… even the 3rd’s did more than 12 weeks. What were all those afternoon training sessions every second day for two terms that I had to endure waiting on the sideline for the session to finish.
Finally, the coaching is better at club level?? How on earth do you quantify or qualify that? The vast majority of club teams, are coached by dads and uncles living their rugby days all over again.
BTW State high actually had 8 players in the Aussie schoolboys team not 5.
February 15th 2010 @ 10:03am
eric said | February 15th 2010 @ 10:03am | Report comment
Lee, “double pump” and “playing the ball on the ground” are competely different scenarios to what has been discussed.
“Double pump” is a slang expression for the ball carrier throwing a couple of dummie passes before actually passing.
Union laws allow a tackled player, after he has been tackled, to reach out and place the ball in any direction, as long as he does it “immediately”.
In rugby if you’re on the ground, you can’t take part in any play.
February 15th 2010 @ 10:52am
formeropenside said | February 15th 2010 @ 10:52am | Report comment
Reds set piece fell apart, its as simple as that. You cant control ball if you cant obtain it. The lineout went to bits in the second half: heads need to roll over that. Its not hard to get a primary and secondary caller, and develop a throw which is a sure thing.
Just as importantly, the Reds puts no pressure on the Tahs lineout. TPN is a notorisouly patchy thrower, and if Qld had put pressure on him then he may have lost confidence. Better work on offence and defence is required at lineout time.
The scrum was poor: losing two tightheads (one to seven men), without being shunted all over the park was unforgivable. The scrum had some moments, but must be consistent.
Without first phase ball, you dont get to second phase ball. Thats why the Reds lost in the last 10.
February 15th 2010 @ 12:32pm
Harry said | February 15th 2010 @ 12:32pm | Report comment
Spot on analysis and 100% agree. Poor set pieces and conceding stupid penalties in the last 10 minutes cost us the game.
The Saders will murder us at set pieces next week if we don’t improve in a big hurry.
Head up Boys, very tough 3 matches coming up.
February 15th 2010 @ 11:18am
Jameswm said | February 15th 2010 @ 11:18am | Report comment
If that’s the best the Tahs have, they’ll struggle. Goodonya Cliffy – and stay please.
Anesi was disappointing and didn’t even seem fast. I didn’t see much with Cam Jowitt either.
In Mitchell’s first two touches he managed a kick charged down, a knock on and a sliced kick. Now I have to put up with supporting him for two teams?
The Tahs forwards didn’t control the game as well as they should have.
With no Mumm or Jowitt – Mowen comes in to 6 and the locks are Caldwell and one of Kane Douglas, Dave Dennis and Hendrick Roodt. Serviceable I guess. I think the team would work better with Mumm at lock and Mowen at 6 anyway, but you do lack a bit of bulk in the 4-5-6 area.
February 15th 2010 @ 11:47am
Who Needs Melon said | February 15th 2010 @ 11:47am | Report comment
I disagree with you about Anesi. I thought he was pretty good – looked dangerous every time he touched the ball and generally ran with it as opposed to kicking for ‘safety’.
Anyone else want to weigh in on this one?
February 15th 2010 @ 8:46pm
Bay35Pablo said | February 15th 2010 @ 8:46pm | Report comment
WNM, I said it before myself, but I agree with you on Anesi. I like the cut of his jib.
February 15th 2010 @ 12:23pm
Sam Taulelei said | February 15th 2010 @ 12:23pm | Report comment
Only that I don’t think the Chiefs will miss him this season. Anesi is quick and a good finisher, I don’t know whether he’s a good fullback though but he’s a good signing for the Waratahs.
February 15th 2010 @ 1:03pm
Even looser said | February 15th 2010 @ 1:03pm | Report comment
Is Anesi an option at 13? His quick, good hands, knows how to pass, can step & we know he’s got a decent boot on him. But then who at 15?
February 15th 2010 @ 11:24am
Amateur Hour said | February 15th 2010 @ 11:24am | Report comment
What’s the mail on Leroy Houston? Anyone know?
February 15th 2010 @ 12:34pm
Harry said | February 15th 2010 @ 12:34pm | Report comment
At KFC.
Seriously, he’s coming back from an injury and should be available for seleciton soon – elbow I think. though Higginbotham, despite gaiving away stupid penalties, did well at 8.
February 15th 2010 @ 4:19pm
PastHisBest said | February 15th 2010 @ 4:19pm | Report comment
Chicken elbow?
February 15th 2010 @ 8:21pm
anopinion said | February 15th 2010 @ 8:21pm | Report comment
Mail on Housten? i think you mean excess baggage.
February 15th 2010 @ 11:39am
Conor said | February 15th 2010 @ 11:39am | Report comment
Reds did not win…
Im sick of the close enough is good enough attitude. Fact is we should have won and didnt.
February 15th 2010 @ 8:36pm
Sambobly said | February 15th 2010 @ 8:36pm | Report comment
Too bloody right. I would have loved for someone in the Reds camp to come out after the game and say something along those lines.
February 15th 2010 @ 12:18pm
Sammy22 said | February 15th 2010 @ 12:18pm | Report comment
Hey grabbing for excuses
Def forward pass on the Tah try and the clock didnt restart for almost a minute around the 65 minute point when a penalty was being made
that’ll test us
Ok we should have won and I’m grabbing at anything here. I do appreciate the ‘Tahs fans acknowledge they stole it and they didnt play as well as the pre game hype. Ah well ‘saders next
I missed the Link interview and I see some comments here about the ‘bench let us down’ Well in a game like that unless players are dead on their feet or injured, why are we changing them, was Genia injured…. why replace him?? Interesting the bench get the blame when the coach put them on there.
BTW Amateur Hour Leroy Houston played in the warm up game (QAS reds 2nds v premier rep) there is a report on the QRU site
February 15th 2010 @ 12:21pm
Even looser said | February 15th 2010 @ 12:21pm | Report comment
Sammy22 – The question was asked eslewhere about why Genia was pulled. Word is that he cramped-up.
February 15th 2010 @ 12:23pm
Rob said | February 15th 2010 @ 12:23pm | Report comment
Agree with Spiros’ initial sense, Hickey struggles at the Super 14 level, combinations strategy, tactics and man management, I reckon there will be a new coach at the Waratahs in 2011. For Tahs fans I think we will be in for more of the same this season.