New law interpretations will strangle try scoring
By LeftArmSpinner, 24 Feb 2010 LeftArmSpinner is a Roar Guru
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Bulls' Fourie du Preez looks for support as he is tackled by the Chiefs' Stephen Donald during the Super 14 rugby match at the International Stadium in Rotorua, New Zealand, Saturday, March 22, 2008. AP Photo/NZPA, John Cowpland
The new interpretations of the breakdown laws have processed a have produced a massive number of tries in the first two rounds of the 2010 Super 14 competition.
Personally, like most rugby fans, I like to see ball in hand rugby and tries being scored. I don’t mind the odd blowout score, either. If nothing else, it makes life interesting.
That does not mean that scrummaging, line outs and even a driving maul are not still an essential part of the game.
Traditionally, the game is predicated on a relatively even playing field when it comes to the breakdown. Interpretations, in favour of either the attacker or defender, can and have fundamentally changed the game in ways that were not predicted, often for the worse.
Currently, and it is still early days for both the referees, coaches, administrators and players, the playing field is not even.
Les Kiss is a very successful and highly knowledgeable former player and current coach. On RuggaMatrix last week, he made the point that the new interpretations might initially favour the attacker, but that very quickly, coaches and offensive coordinator is would concede the breakdown and leave as many as 14 players in the defensive line.
The end result will still be lots of ball in hand rugby, but a reduction in the number of tries scored because of a strengthened defensive line. Possession won’t change unless the attacking team makes a mistake.
Rugby and its essence, the contest for the ball, will have disappeared and the game will have become unlimited tackle rugby.
Les Kiss went on to make his own very astute suggestions as to how we can promote running rugby. He proposes the referees being much tougher on players off their feet at the breakdown.
I fully support his suggestion and believe that it should be a recommendation to the IRB.
The real blight on the game are players, predominantly forwards, who sole purpose in defence is to slow down the opposition’s ball at the breakdown, by breaking the rules of the game.
They have made an art form of trying to appear innocent, clumsy or just simply “it wasn’t me guv’.” They make it appear that they are playing rugby by contesting the ball when in fact they are cynically and constructively not playing rugby or playing in the spirit of rugby and just want to slow down the opposition ball up and hence the spectacle.
Enough is enough. On the second infringement, the referee will issue a yellow card to the offending player. Initially, there will be many offending players and many yellow cards. But it will not take coaches very long to realise that the risk/return equation makes offending at the breakdown just not worth it anymore.
Defending players will need to show greater judgment as to when they genuinely contest the ball and/or counter-ruck.
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February 24th 2010 @ 12:47pm
titus said | February 24th 2010 @ 12:47pm | Report comment
I just hope we never again see a game like the Hurricanes vs Bulls match last year where Matt Goddard (I think) started firing off yellow cards within the first 15 minutes and was obligated from that point onwards to be consistent. It turned the match into a farce.
February 24th 2010 @ 1:33pm
Ballywhore said | February 24th 2010 @ 1:33pm | Report comment
Can someone please identify the union career of Les Kiss?
February 24th 2010 @ 1:54pm
MyGeneration said | February 24th 2010 @ 1:54pm | Report comment
Not much playing, but plenty coaching since 2001. Currently defensive coach for Ireland, I believe.
February 24th 2010 @ 2:05pm
Ballywhore said | February 24th 2010 @ 2:05pm | Report comment
Has he ever played union?
His defence in rugby league was very suspect.
February 24th 2010 @ 3:22pm
MyGeneration said | February 24th 2010 @ 3:22pm | Report comment
Was not a noted League defender I agree, but did alright for someone of small stature. He is building an impressive enough Union coaching record, and seems to be in demand. I expect he would have been found out by now if he wasn’t delivering, ESPECIALLY with no Union playing record.
February 24th 2010 @ 7:27pm
Ballywhore said | February 24th 2010 @ 7:27pm | Report comment
He certainly wasn’t a noted defender at all.
He was known almost exclusively as an attacking player in rugby league. His reputation was built on that alone.
February 24th 2010 @ 9:02pm
BennO said | February 24th 2010 @ 9:02pm | Report comment
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t he the defensive coach when we won the world cup in 99 only letting in one try all tournament?
February 25th 2010 @ 11:00am
MyGeneration said | February 25th 2010 @ 11:00am | Report comment
Benno, that was John Muggleton, also an ex-League player, who I believe never played Union either, but he was a forward in League, so he knew about defence.
February 25th 2010 @ 12:01pm
BennO said | February 25th 2010 @ 12:01pm | Report comment
Ah yes that’s right. Thanks MyGen.
February 24th 2010 @ 3:14pm
LeftArmSpinner said | February 24th 2010 @ 3:14pm | Report comment
bally, go and listen to him on http://www.ruggamatrix.com. He is very knowledgeable.
February 24th 2010 @ 5:00pm
ohtani's jacket said | February 24th 2010 @ 5:00pm | Report comment
It seems to me that no-one is quite sure what effect the new interpretations will have and that all these different articles and opinions are just confusing the issue. At the end of the day, it’s how the interpretations effect the game at Test level that is important.
February 24th 2010 @ 8:30pm
Nashi said | February 24th 2010 @ 8:30pm | Report comment
Agreed OJ. But S14 will give us clues about how certain players adapt. How smart is Richie to sit the first feww eeks out. Let the dust settle and BAM come in with all guns blazing.
It will be interesting to see the impact on the various open sides in the game. Not sure if Brussow and Waugh will benefit as their game is so focussed on scavenging low to the ground. It seems from what I have seen that the ruck is much more fluid than before and Deans has said he expects the rucks to be higher. If you contest then you must do so in numbers in order to drive over the ball. I believe the Kiwis will have a field day at international level as its basically back to the high speed forwards in numbers game they love to play.
The great thing is that the game has moved on from last year to a new cycle. What we will also see is just how good the coaches are at making the adjustment in tactics.We can all watch it evolve and have endless discussion on the roar rather than moan like broken records about boring kicking.
Can’t wait for the games this weekend!
February 24th 2010 @ 10:08pm
preciouspress said | February 24th 2010 @ 10:08pm | Report comment
This Southern Hemisphere obsession with changing the laws of Rugby only confirms insecurity. Football, the world’s most popular game hardly ever changes its rules and from this stable base, players enhance the game by developing skill and technique. Rugby’s greatest asset is its club culture with members who love the game as it is, sorry was, – scrums, line-outs, rucks,mauls, and kicks. But then there are the paid administrators who want to sell some other game, more like Rugby League to provide cheap thrills to a pay-TV audience.
The ARU should revive the clubs, slash the payments to Super 14 and the Wallabies, reduce admission fees, and leave the laws alone.
February 24th 2010 @ 11:20pm
ohtani's jacket said | February 24th 2010 @ 11:20pm | Report comment
Football is a non-contact sport. The only real issues it has surround the tackle area which is a different beast from a ruck. Personally, I’m taking a wait and see approach to the new interpetations since we haven’t seen them in a pressure cooker situation yet.
February 24th 2010 @ 11:39pm
bennalong said | February 24th 2010 @ 11:39pm | Report comment
Without wanting to bore everyone again this season, the breakdown has been a problem since the biggest rule change of the modern game…………..eliminating RUCKING. As you indicate ‘precious’, changing the laws only breeds insecurity.
Once again the teams must adapt to each refs interpretation of the new laws and once again we don’t know where it will end.
After two weeks we have running rugby but at what cost?
To keep players on their feet you must eliminate ‘cleaning out’ and ‘diving over’. BRING BACK RUCKING! !
I don’t know what permutations will develop under the new/old interpretation of the old law but Brown was one ref who failed to follow the group think and as the season progresses the refs will once again decide matches by their unique interpretations that inevitably flow from change. We just got over one set of changes, the ELVs,which were not trialled long enough, why will this change be different?
February 25th 2010 @ 12:18pm
Winston said | February 25th 2010 @ 12:18pm | Report comment
Brining back rucking pretty much solves all these issues
February 25th 2010 @ 12:39pm
soapit said | February 25th 2010 @ 12:39pm | Report comment
the biggest impact on making a break is the ability to get quick ball before the defence can organise themselves. quick ball means more breaks.
and they can win posession, just not by the hands in ruck method, they might have to bind and drive over again.
someone else suggested cracking down on attacking teams sealing off as well to allow teams to clean them out without risking breaking their opponenets necks. good idea i reckon.
oh and les kiss was a rugby league player, coach, then got recruited to apply league defence to union.
February 25th 2010 @ 7:52pm
klestical said | February 25th 2010 @ 7:52pm | Report comment
I’m a big fan of the “Justin Marshall Law”.
The tackler has no rights to the ball whatsoever, he just tackles and rolls away. This cuts out a heap of uncertainty about the tackler releasing the ball, etc etc.
February 25th 2010 @ 8:50pm
scarlet said | February 25th 2010 @ 8:50pm | Report comment
Bringing back rucking would work well in the current environment of video evidence, after match citing and three refs, all of which would reduce illegal rucking and use of the boot on heads etc. I agree that rucking should be brought back and would simplify the game.
One problem with the constant rule tinkering is that we are creating confusion in the ‘product’ being delivered each season. We need to eliminate the rule tinkering so that we can again have consistency and a standard global game.
Maybe we should look again at a global season and see if we can’t create a truly global franchise instead of competing areas with their own rule interpretations and ‘product concerns’?
I’m all for shifting the Six Nations, Heineken Cup and the Leagues if it means that we can have more global matches with H Cup winners against Super 14 winners, or a competition with the top four clubs from key regions?