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When the Federal Government established a taskforce in early January to take over the running of Australia’s World Cup bid from the FFA, it gave itself a deadline of the end of February to complete all stadium negotiations in readiness for the bid book which is due in May.
I’m not sure if anyone has noticed, but tomorrow is actually the last day of February (unless we’re in a leap year).
So what have we heard in the last six weeks or so about how the taskforce is going with this delicate exercise?
We’ve heard nothing.
In recent weeks, the only news we have heard that has anything to do with the World cup bid is that:
1. Etihad Stadium has confirmed that it has no interest in hosting World cup games (its management said as much back in November last year); and
2. The President of the AFC has urged all five member nations who are bidding for 2018/2022 to put forward one nation only (and no prizes for guessing which nation the Pres would think is the appropriate one to put forward).
So the public is left to surmise what to make of this impasse. These are my educated guesses.
State Governments
At least three state/territory governments have no interest in spending any money on anything to do with the World Cup, namely WA, SA and the ACT.
Why? For two reasons:
1. The cost, not only of stadium development, but everything to do with staging the World Cup, far, far surpasses any perceived benefit; and
2. Given that there is no World Cup bid without the participation of all three, there is actually no incentive for any of them to put their hand in their pockets, their view is a simple and proper one: if the Feds want it bad enough, let them pay for it 100%.
Dire Financial Straits
Following on from the last point, none of the State Governments, nor the Federal Government itself, is in any great shakes in relation to their respective budgets.
In fact, with an election round the corner, and a budgetary situation that shows no sign of improvement over the next four or five years, the Commonwealth is hardly in a position to splash the cash.
The various states are in an even worse position.
Administrative niceties
Strip away the emotion, the passion, the willingness to put in the hard yards, the longing for glory from so many quarters, and we’re left with the hard cold reality of putting the deal together.
And while the FFA continues to lobby for a blank cheque, and while the Prime Minister and his senior advisers are happy to promise it, fortunately for the taxpayer, we have learned officials from the Attorney-General’s department, the Finance department and the Treasury, advising their superiors that it’s not that simple.
There are processes to go through, not just to appropriate the necessary money, but to commit the Commonwealth to all those contingent liabilities that may ultimately go out up to fifty years.
What Minister would want to officially sign off on a guarantee that in dollar terms is greater than the annual Commonwealth budget?
Hopefully one day in the future we will recognise those public officials who ultimately saved the Australian taxpayer’s collective bacon.
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February 28th 2010 @ 3:12pm
Black Diamonds said | February 28th 2010 @ 3:12pm | Report comment
Regarding the billions of dollars of expenditure required to host a World Cup in Australia.
Has anyone looked at Greece lately?
That country spent billions upon billions of dollars around a decade ago to get the city (just barely) up to speed to host the 2004 Olympics.
Look at Greece now – its been proven Greece spent money it didn’t have and now it has to pay the piper on this debt.
Unemployment is rocketing, interest rates are shooting up (As people believe Greece will not pay 100% of the debts they’ve incurred – and they’re crawling to Germany asking for a bailout. A bailout the Germans are not that interested in providing – afterall, why extend lines of credit to people who continually abuse the credit?)
Hardly a good scenario in Greece and the country looks set for years of stagnation and a falling and failing economy. Hell, there’s even riots in the street over there as people are forced to take paycuts to pay for this debt.
Is going down the debt path something we really want to do when we look around the world and see places like Greece suffering like they are? One can also throw NSW into that argument – a decade of stagnation, and even the United Kingdom and the London Olympics.
The debt in the UK is much much higher than here at present, and part of the reason is the tens of billions of dollars spent preparing for the 2012 Olympics.
Can anyone see a theme here?
If you don’t have the infrastructure in place already its probably for a very good reason – because its not cost effective!
If you then force yourselves to build it to pay for a one-off event like the Olympics or World Cup, you are likely to bring problems upon yourself incurring this debt. There are so many historic examples of this its amazing some people don’t see it. Does anyone really think South Africa is going to boom in the next few years off the back of the World Cup? I seriously doubt it, in fact I think its more likely to go in the opposite direction. Far more likely.
How many examples do people require?
February 28th 2010 @ 4:50pm
Mister Football said | February 28th 2010 @ 4:50pm | Report comment
Black Diamonds
There are stacks of such examples – including one much closer to home.
March 1st 2010 @ 9:19am
Black Diamonds said | March 1st 2010 @ 9:19am | Report comment
Read it closely – I did mention NSW in there – ‘A decade of stagnation’
March 2nd 2010 @ 6:33pm
Mister Football said | March 2nd 2010 @ 6:33pm | Report comment
Fair enough.
February 28th 2010 @ 4:33pm
matty1974 said | February 28th 2010 @ 4:33pm | Report comment
28 February 2010
Funding for 2018-2022 World Cup Bid announced
The concept designs for the Australian bid for the 2018-2022 FIFA World Cup bid have been released by the Prime Minister, Minister Kate Ellis and Mr Frank Lowy.
The $2.7 billion funding required for stadia and infrastructure will be raised from a new tax on junior Aussie Rules players. Each participant in the NAB Auskick program will be required to pay a 50% football tax on their $20 NAB bank account voucher.
Viewing the plans for the centrepiece of the bid, the soon the be rectangularisd Melbourne Cricket Ground, Prime Minister Rudd said “This will be a modern and proud icon of Australian sporting excellence and will provide 21st century facilities for the next generation of Soccer players”.
“The World Cup bid will see an unprecentented phase of sporting facility construction” said Minister Ellis, as she surveyed plans for the construction of brand new 80,000 seat rectangualr stadia in Perth, Adelaide, Townsville and Wagga Wagga.
This huge investment is a significant boost for the World Game in Australia.
Features of the bid plans include:
- The deconstruction of Subiaco Oval and Adelaide Oval to make way for the new rectangualr venues.
- The compulsory acquistion of all Aussie Rules training venues to be converted into FIFA World Cup training venues.
- The immediate banning of the ‘Sherrin” and compulsory education camps for all non-believers.
The launch of the bid plans have been announced early in response to concerns about the wellbeing of Pippinu. Mr Lowy explains, “We really wanted to hold off this announcement until the bid book was delivered in May. However, we have noticed an increasing level of anxiety about the bid amongst some of the community”.
It has been reported that concerns about the bid process have resulted in at least one concerned tax payer assuming multiples identities on a public sporting website.
The release of the bid plans today coincides with the start of the site preparation works
To view the concept design and to provide your comments, visit the web site http://www.getalife.gov.au or call 1800 Ole!Ole!
February 28th 2010 @ 4:51pm
Mister Football said | February 28th 2010 @ 4:51pm | Report comment
matty
that’s quite funny – and actually a very close approximation of the true feelings of certain sections of soccer fans.
March 1st 2010 @ 3:59pm
apaway said | March 1st 2010 @ 3:59pm | Report comment
Hey Matty, I think that’s funny too, and I AM a football fan. Well done. By the way, the 1974 part of your name wouldn’t refer to Australia’s first World Cup finals appearance, would it?
February 28th 2010 @ 4:58pm
MV Dave said | February 28th 2010 @ 4:58pm | Report comment
l’ll let the anti Sokkah brigade in on (what must be to them) a secret. Australia is bidding for the 2018/2022 WC, the bid papers are lodged in May and all the state as well as Federal Govts support the bid. You can moan and whinge as much as you like but they are the only facts you need to bother yourself with.
March 2nd 2010 @ 6:36pm
Mister Football said | March 2nd 2010 @ 6:36pm | Report comment
“all the state as well as Federal Govts support the bid”
Do all the states truly support the bid?
Do we have any concrete evidence of WA, SA or even Vict wanting to dig deep?
February 28th 2010 @ 5:25pm
Mister Football said | February 28th 2010 @ 5:25pm | Report comment
I’m only stating in this artilce thta Kate Ellis herself, in her media release, said that her task force would have all the stadium issues sorted out by the end of February.
Now MVDave – I’ll let you in on a little secret – the end of February is less than six hours away.
do you reckon Kate’s little taskforce has it all sorted out?
No, of course it hasn’t.
And thus I have given people my three reasons as to why the taskforce hasn’t worked it all out yet.
Interestingly, absolutely no one, and I do mean no one, has touched on any of those three points – but as usual – I have received plenty of personal abuse.
February 28th 2010 @ 7:44pm
Norm said | February 28th 2010 @ 7:44pm | Report comment
-”but as usual – I have received plenty of personal abuse.”…oh boo hoo cry baby! Anyway Mr Foney, Kate Ellis said she would do something & didn’t do it…You said you would never return to this site…!
February 28th 2010 @ 8:27pm
Mister Football said | February 28th 2010 @ 8:27pm | Report comment
Norm
if we can’t have faith in our very own elected representatives, who can we have faith in?
February 28th 2010 @ 9:03pm
Norm said | February 28th 2010 @ 9:03pm | Report comment
Not you obviously.
February 28th 2010 @ 11:11pm
Mister Football said | February 28th 2010 @ 11:11pm | Report comment
And yet, i have received an incredible amount of support.
I’m the people’s champion.
February 28th 2010 @ 11:18pm
Jeb said | February 28th 2010 @ 11:18pm | Report comment
thanks for the laugh mr football
March 2nd 2010 @ 6:38pm
Mister Football said | March 2nd 2010 @ 6:38pm | Report comment
Jeb
ok, maybe I’m not really the people’s champion, but 12 cheers is not to be sneezed at.
February 28th 2010 @ 5:52pm
matty1974 said | February 28th 2010 @ 5:52pm | Report comment
Hey Pip, thought i better at least comment on one of the 3 points you have made. Inspired by the Avatar you use..How about a bronze statue of Treasury officials studiously examining a cost/benefit report. It could be placed outside the MCG and will be a heroic reminder of the government officials who saved the “Australian taxpayer’s collective bacon”!
March 2nd 2010 @ 6:40pm
Mister Football said | March 2nd 2010 @ 6:40pm | Report comment
matty
in truth, it’s not within the Australian collective psyche to lavish such praise on public officials
February 28th 2010 @ 6:01pm
Mister Football said | February 28th 2010 @ 6:01pm | Report comment
We now have less than five hours before we hit midnight, meaning Ellis’ taskforce has not completed the task she set them (according to her media release).
February 28th 2010 @ 6:05pm
Mister Football said | February 28th 2010 @ 6:05pm | Report comment
There are now four hours and 45 minutes till midnght.
February 28th 2010 @ 6:23pm
Mister Football said | February 28th 2010 @ 6:23pm | Report comment
There are now four hours and 30 minutes till midnight.
February 28th 2010 @ 7:27pm
Dogs Of War said | February 28th 2010 @ 7:27pm | Report comment
You counting down the replay of the AFL matches that no one else watches bar yourself on One HD?
February 28th 2010 @ 8:28pm
bever fever said | February 28th 2010 @ 8:28pm | Report comment
I know plenty of people who watch them, their is some really good games on there, TIVO my friend is the key.
February 28th 2010 @ 8:26pm
Mister Football said | February 28th 2010 @ 8:26pm | Report comment
There are now two hours and 30 minutes till midnight.
February 28th 2010 @ 8:31pm
Moonface said | February 28th 2010 @ 8:31pm | Report comment
Its a shame Mister Football that you don’t support the soccer World Cup bid.
We need all Australians, even AFL followers like you to help this country grow.
I’m an AFL supporter too, but I have no problems with a soccer world cup being played here at all, in fact I’m looking forward to it and so are my kids who play soccer and love it.
February 28th 2010 @ 8:35pm
Mister Football said | February 28th 2010 @ 8:35pm | Report comment
Moonface
thanks for the post.
AFL fans are already helping this country grow – the AFL industry is worth $3.4 billion per annum, and that’s money that stays in Australia.
That billion dollar TV deal – it all stays in Australia, paying for 20,000 full time jobs, and funding nearly 1,000 professional athletes.
It’s a similar story for the NRL.
But every time a station pays for the rights of a foreign league, or someone buys a Man Utd t-shirt – that’s money going overseas.
I’m very, very happy for a World Cup to occur in Australia:
1. as long as it doesn’t impinge too severely on the AFL/NRL; and
2. as long as it doesn’t cost the taxpayer billions upon billions of dollars.
February 28th 2010 @ 8:57pm
Moonface said | February 28th 2010 @ 8:57pm | Report comment
Mister Football,
I left Victoria for NSW because of people like you.
There’s more to life than AFL and AFL isn’t propping up the Australian economy – the other football codes generate heaps of money and jobs too and a soccer world cup will raise more money than AFL ever will.
Good Night Mister AFL.
February 28th 2010 @ 11:04pm
Mister Football said | February 28th 2010 @ 11:04pm | Report comment
Geez, two posts ago you said: “I’m an AFL supporter too…”
You turned around quite quickly!
I’ve given you the AFL industry figure of $3.4 billion per annum.
That’s every year, year on year, in perpetuity.
You honestly reckon that Australia hosting the soccer WC one time is going to make more than that???
March 1st 2010 @ 10:14pm
Moonface said | March 1st 2010 @ 10:14pm | Report comment
I follow AFL, but I don’t follow people like you.
March 2nd 2010 @ 6:42pm
Mister Football said | March 2nd 2010 @ 6:42pm | Report comment
I’m not asking anyone to follow me.
I’m not the saviour – I’m just a naughty boy.
February 28th 2010 @ 9:04pm
Punter said | February 28th 2010 @ 9:04pm | Report comment
What about all those AFL academies in American Samoa, Zambia, Java, Mongolia & Easter Island, they are all costs that go o/s.
February 28th 2010 @ 9:22pm
bever fever said | February 28th 2010 @ 9:22pm | Report comment
I look forward to a academy on Easter Island, quite frankly i find it a very interesting place.
ATM we will have to settle for one in PNG, at a de la salle school.
http://www.worldfootynews.com/article.php/20100226153157305
February 28th 2010 @ 11:04pm
Mister Football said | February 28th 2010 @ 11:04pm | Report comment
Are there AFL academies in Zambia and Easter Island??