Stephen Jones should stop trashing the Super 14
By Spiro Zavos, 1 Mar 2010 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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The Usual Suspect just can’t stop himself trashing Super 14, the best and most attractive provincial rugby competition in world rugby. There was Stephen Jones using his bully pulpit of the prestigious UK Sunday Times last week trashing, for umpteenth time, Super 14 rugby.
He used the bewildering Lions (RSA) – Chiefs (NZ) match two weekends ago at Johannesburg, where 137 points were scored with each side scoring 9 tries, to launch an equally bewildering attack on Super 14 rugby: ‘I’ve often written of the dangers of chasing the concept of entertainment in rugby. It made a complete joke of Super Rugby and it is in grave danger of doing so all over again.’
He called Super Rugby ‘tripe’ ‘sickly’ ‘a shambles’ and ‘pap rugby’.
The culprits are the dreaded SANZAR administrators (code for John O’Neill, the ARU CEO that Jones frequently rants about). The Super Rugby referees, Jones pontificates, fear ‘their paymasters would be on their backs if the game did not yield around 15 tries minimum.’
The problem with all this ill-informed ranting is that encourages die-hard British officials to resist any reforms to make rugby a fast, skillful, hard-tackling spectacle.
Moreover, it does not stack up with the reality of the hard facts about Super Rugby. In the first round of the 2010 Super 14 tournament there were 15 tries fewer than the first round of the 2009 tournament.
In their first two matches, also, the NSW Waratahs scored exactly two tries.
And when the Chiefs played a side that tackled in the third round, the Western Force, even though that side was without a number of its best players, the Chiefs were able to score a grand total of four tries.
The Lions were only able to score two tries against the Hurricanes (NZ).
Where were the 15 tries a match in all of this Jones is claiming is mandated for Super 14 matches by the SANZAR officials?
Jones is so determined to trash Super 14 rugby that he is prepared to make an elementary mistake of logic. It was obvious to everyone that the Lions-Chiefs result was an exception to the usual Super Rugby matches where strong defence plays a major part in deciding the out-come of matches.
Exceptions do not create their own rule, as Jones seems to believe. They prove the rule, as the old and true adage maintains.
The Lions – Chiefs match was a one-off match played at altitude with a South African referee, Marius Jonker who was not on his game (his poor form afflicted the NSW Waratahs this weekend, as well, with different results), and by two sides who decided that tackling was not part of their rugby requirement for this particular match.
The fact is that you can have a high-scoring match and still have much more ferocious defence than any Six Nations side is able to replicate (with the possible exception of France).
There were 86 points scored in the terrifically exciting, fast-paced match between the Bulls (48) and the Waratahs (38). But each side had to earn their tries.
The Waratahs played a wonderful first half but were unable to clear out on the Bulls, mainly because they lost the penalty count 5 – 3.
In the second half the Bulls smashed their way into the lead. They were extremely lucky to get some fortunate decisions from the referee. Joel Stransky noted twice in his commentary that kickable penalties that should have gone to the Waratahs and would have given them the lead towards the end of the game were not given to them.
The Waratahs showed enough, though, against the Bulls to suggest that they should be a force in this year’s tournament, provided they continue to play the running game they attempted against the Bulls.
Luke Burgess was designated Man of the Match, a strange decision in my opinion. He ran strongly occasionally. But he almost always takes the wrong option. His passing remains poor. It would be interesting to see how Josh Holmes would go as a starter for the Waratahs when they are in their running mode.
Rob Horne came on towards the end of the match and made a tremendous break. It’s time for Tom Carter to give way to Horne to give the backline some pace and penetration in the centres.
The ACT Brumbies, too, were impressive with their 19 – 17 (points not tries, Mr Jones) against the Stormers (in RSA). The two tries in this enthralling, fast-paced and hard-tackling match came in the last 3 minutes.
The week before the Brumbies had been leading the Bulls before they conceded 7 straight penalties from the local referee, Mark Lawrence. For long periods of play against the Stormers, with the South African referee Craig Joubert officiating, the Brumbies did not bother to contest the rucks and mauls.
A problem for the Brumbies is that they although they are well-coached and have some star players, they lack a mongrel, dominating pack and great speed out wide.
As for the Reds and the Western Force: the Reds have improved this season so they should be off the bottom and somewhere near the middle of the competition. Former players like Brendan Cannon claim that the last placed Western Force are well-coached. But …
With Scott Staniforth back, why didn’t Mitchell play him at inside centre with James O’Connor at first-five? The Highlanders moved Jason Shoemark, a similar player to Staniforth, into inside center with great effect.
Any coach who buys Sam Harris for his squad and then plays him twice at first five-eighths is in pixie land, in my view.
You can’t help feeling, as well, with the Western Force that there are still major issues between the coach and his players. The squad is playing like a team that is not prepared to do and die for the cause.
So far, after three rounds the Bulls are leading the tournament and look like far and away the best balanced, best-coached side in the tournament.
But they are yet to play out of Africa and we will see then if they are the force they are at altitude.
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March 1st 2010 @ 8:08am
Blinky Bill of Bellingen said | March 1st 2010 @ 8:08am | Report comment
Stephen who? I don’t read his stuff but it’s no surprise that journalists take the exception to the rule (Lions v Chiefs) to attract readers. Surely you Spiro as a journalist yourself would be tempted from time to time. No?
March 1st 2010 @ 8:18am
Robbie said | March 1st 2010 @ 8:18am | Report comment
I was watching the England v Ireland match yesterday…..and I noticed how much of a good commentator Brian Moore is….
Is that just me???
Ps: The Tahs v Bulls was a great match played a pace….I want more of this
March 2nd 2010 @ 6:30am
katzilla said | March 2nd 2010 @ 6:30am | Report comment
Lol Robbie I was thinking the same thing. Although whenever i hear his voice i always think of those Dust up videos he hosted back in the day.
March 1st 2010 @ 9:00am
pothale said | March 1st 2010 @ 9:00am | Report comment
Actually – it’s worthwhile for people commenting on this thread to read the article to which Spiro refers:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/rugby_union/article7039384.ece
I suspect that everyone would actually agree with what he said.
His commentary was specifically on the Chiefs/Lions game, not the whole Super 14 rugby.
He opens the article with a rhetorical question: “Hands up, who feels that the 72-65 victory last weekend by the Chiefs over the Lions was a great rugby match? And those who think it was a rugby match at all?”
He then went on to specifically describe the game :”The thinly-disguised contempt on the faces of the Sky presenters as they showed highlights of a succession of semi-opposed movements leading to a ghastly total of 18 tries against non-defending, was very telling and journalistically sound. Let us not pretend that the followers of the Chiefs, or anyone else for that matter, will not feel sick if such tripe is served up for much longer in the Super 15.”
The ‘tripe’ was the match, not Super Rugby. The ‘pap rugby’ was a reference to the match, not Super 14.
Who’s zooming who really?
March 1st 2010 @ 9:16am
Lee said | March 1st 2010 @ 9:16am | Report comment
Completely agree Pothale – it’s a good thing that journalists can rely on a lot of people believe their word for things, otherwise someone with a very low level of reading comprehension might figure out that Spiro is doing exaclty what Jones is being accused of.
March 2nd 2010 @ 2:00pm
Worcester Warriors said | March 2nd 2010 @ 2:00pm | Report comment
I was thinking exactly the same thing.
March 1st 2010 @ 9:52am
ohtani's jacket said | March 1st 2010 @ 9:52am | Report comment
He was using the Chiefs/Lions game to make a wider point about the new interpretations.
March 1st 2010 @ 10:44am
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels said | March 1st 2010 @ 10:44am | Report comment
Name bestowed upon yourself suits you well; take care of your rose tints they’re fragile.
The following is part of the ‘Mr Jones’ article you refer. Selective cut ‘n’ paste does you no favour Pot-shot / Pothole.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/rugby_union/article7039384.ece
I’ve often written of the dangers of chasing the concept of entertainment in rugby. It made a complete joke of Super Rugby and it is in grave danger of doing so all over again. “This is living proof of what is possible if you are constructive,” Deans says of the rubbish Chiefs-Lions game, with reference to the first two weeks of Super Rugby in general.
How on earth can you deduce from the above Mr Jones is referring ONLY to the Chiefs game. Ah those tints are looking foggy.
March 1st 2010 @ 9:31pm
pothale said | March 1st 2010 @ 9:31pm | Report comment
I wasn’t doing selective cut and past since I started with giving the link to the entire article. I pulled the quotes I did to make the point that the descriptors claimed by Spiro to refer to Super Rugby – pap, tripe, etc were actually specific references to the game. Spiro is not the only journalist to have done so. A number of writers in the New Zealand Herald did the same thing. Choosing to make the descriptors apply to the entire of Super 14, as opposed to one poor game that no one would want to see repeated.
OJ is right that the Chiefs/Lions game was being used to make a wider point about the new interpretations. There’s nothing new in this, except that Stephen Jones is late by a week, since I and others made the same point within hours of the game finishing.
Jones also balances his article/tirade with neagative commentary on some dire NH games played the same weekend involving top GP clubs.
He concludes that things will even out in the end. As evidenced by games just played this weekend.
End of story.
March 1st 2010 @ 9:34am
Hammer said | March 1st 2010 @ 9:34am | Report comment
This is a poor article and if I was cynical I’d say SZ is doing here what Jones himself does – creating a divisive forum to elicit a large number of blog hits for his own website …
The only point that really needs to be noted in respect to Jones is that the when The Times changed newspaper format from broadsheet to tabliod in ’03 the format finally matched the musings of it’s “celebrated” rugby correspondent …
March 1st 2010 @ 11:50am
ulysses said | March 1st 2010 @ 11:50am | Report comment
The answer really is in the fact that the players of “pap” rugby combine in their national teams to completely dominate the NH teams whether played home or away under whatever rules and interpretations. 34 of the last 40 SH-NH games I believe. If the rugby played in Super 14 is so poor and weak, how come the SH nations keep winning?
March 1st 2010 @ 2:33pm
Ora said | March 1st 2010 @ 2:33pm | Report comment
Yes funny that Ulysses seems the Northern teams will be battling it out for fourth spot in the rankings for a while yet
March 2nd 2010 @ 1:16am
pothale said | March 2nd 2010 @ 1:16am | Report comment
No they don’t, Ulysses. How many of the players of pap rugby from the game play for their national teams?
Nobody is saying Super 14 rugby is poor and weak. Get a grip.
March 1st 2010 @ 11:56am
Benny said | March 1st 2010 @ 11:56am | Report comment
Spiro, i don’t get your continuous Burgess bashing – he was outstanding on the weekend and every other rugby journalist recognised such. Holmes makes Burgess’ delivery looks world record speed.
Genia made a number of missed tackles on the weekend that Burgess certainly wouldn’t have missed.
March 1st 2010 @ 10:10pm
box of ice said | March 1st 2010 @ 10:10pm | Report comment
But Burges can’t pick up the ball like Genia and do a 60 metre try !
March 1st 2010 @ 12:05pm
Sam Taulelei said | March 1st 2010 @ 12:05pm | Report comment
My only comment on this piece is that I’m disappointed that after a weekend of good competitive rugby in the latest round of Super 14 we’re focusing on one man’s opinion on what is wrong with the game and not what is good about the game.
We’re just about a quarter of the way through the competition and I’m much happier with the overall quality of games than at the same stage last year, the number of tries scored and seeing backs express talents other than kicking the leather off the ball. Scrums are more stable and sides are starting to counter ruck more and not just fan out in defence.
March 1st 2010 @ 12:23pm
ohtani's jacket said | March 1st 2010 @ 12:23pm | Report comment
Yeah, there’s no denying that the Super 14 has been better this year. Whatever will we complain about?
March 2nd 2010 @ 6:32am
katzilla said | March 2nd 2010 @ 6:32am | Report comment
Graham Lowe?
March 1st 2010 @ 1:37pm
JamesB said | March 1st 2010 @ 1:37pm | Report comment
No one takes Jones seriously, and he’s practically a laughing stock in rugby circles. Sadly someone with a chip on his shoulder.
March 1st 2010 @ 2:39pm
Matt Bush said | March 1st 2010 @ 2:39pm | Report comment
Spiro, Jones’ agenda in his writing is both transparent and unprofessional in equal degrees. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
While on the subject, I am dismayed to see that you somehow managed to turn Luke Burgess’ outstanding performance against the Bulls into an opportunity to again push your own agenda on Josh Holmes. Objective journalism should give credit where credit is due.
March 1st 2010 @ 3:41pm
brad said | March 1st 2010 @ 3:41pm | Report comment
what is Stephen Jones problem! the new rules allow for a much better attacking game, and with the defending team not being allowed to contest the ball we are seeing way more phases than usual. Hopefully in the future the defending team will be allowed an automatic turnover after say 6 phases, better yet we could reduce the number of players to 13 and get rid of contested scrums so there are no more Fatties in the teams. Hopefully in the future we will have a simpler more entertaining contest to satisfy the millions. Rugby can gain world wide appeal the ultimate goal. Sadly my boy will never get to see the rugby I knew, but what the hey we have killed off the Forests made a hole in the Ozone. I guess rugby never really stood a chance. Adieu rugby union, i knew you well. can’t wait for the trinations All Blacks 137 Australia 136 what a contest!